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Syed Nizam
05-07-2006, 02:04 PM
ISRAEL: A terrorist success story

BY ROB MILLER

If there was an Academy Awards ceremony for terrorism, Israel would sweep every category — and every acceptance speech would have to thank the government of United States, whose generous support has made Israel the most successful terrorist state in the world.

How do you measure the success of terrorism? Is it by the numbers of civilians killed, maimed and terrorised or the level of disruption and fear brought to peoples' daily lives? Israel scores very highly on both these counts.

Surely though, the ultimate measure of success is the ability to use terrorism to achieve your aims and get away with it. By this measure, Israel is the most successful terrorist state of the 20th century and looks like continuing its winning streak into the 21st century.

Israel has its own special way of recognising the achievements of its great terrorists — by electing them its prime minister. There are no less than three Israeli prime ministers who have long terrorist histories.

The current prime minister, Ariel Sharon, cemented his place in the hall of fame with his leading role in the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, including the massacres by Israeli-backed militias in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila. Earlier in his Israeli army career Sharon was responsible for the slaughter of 69 civilians in the Qibia village in Jordanian-controlled territory in 1953.

The Israeli prime minister at the time of the 1982 invasion, Menachem Begin, was a leader of the Irgun, one of the main terrorist groups in the Zionist movement. In the 1930s and 1940s the Zionists were trying to establish the Israeli state in what was then British-occupied Palestine.

In 1937, the Irgun launched a terror campaign against Palestinian civilians, setting off bombs in markets and attacking buses. In one attack on the Haifa fruit market 74 Arabs were killed and 129 wounded. In 1946, the Irgun set off a bomb in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing about 100 Arab, British and Jewish victims.

Another Israeli prime minister, Yitzhak Shamir, started his career in this same period as a leader of the Zionist terrorist group, the Stern gang. The Stern gang was responsible for the assassination of the UN mediator in Palestine, Count Folke Bernadotte, and a French UN observer in September 1948.

As central leaders of these groups Begin and Shamir both went on to play a crucial role in the terrorist activities carried out during the 1948 war.

`Ethnic cleansing’
The term “ethnic cleansing” came into general use when it was used to describe the atrocities carried out by the Serbian nationalist forces in their push to create a Serbian state in Bosnia.

To carry out this particular form of terrorism is one thing, but as former Serbian ruler Slobodan Milosevic has found out, it is quite another thing to get away with it. In terms of getting away with ethnic cleansing, Israel is in a class of its own.

Ethnic cleansing was always going to be essential to achieving the Zionist movement's aim of creating a Jewish state in Palestine. This movement sought to escape the oppression suffered by Jewish minorities throughout history by setting up a state controlled exclusively by Jews, ruling over a country in which Jews were the majority. The process of creating such a state in Palestine would inevitably involve systematic discrimination against the non-Jewish people of Palestine.

Through a combination of lobbying, military force and terrorist activity the Zionist movement was able to win the support of the US and other powerful nations for a UN partition plan which would create a Jewish state in Palestine. The 1947 UN partition plan violated the right of the Arabic-speaking Palestinian people to national self-determination, as it denied them the opportunity to vote on whether or not they agreed to the UN plan to hand over a part of their national homeland to a colonial-settler state.

The UN plan was also grossly unfair in that it granted the 30% of the population who were Jewish 54% of the land of Palestine, including the most fertile areas. Despite the obvious bias of the UN plan in favour of Zionism, it did not resolve the “Arab question”.

In the area allocated to the Jewish state, Jews only barely outnumbered Palestinians (498,000 Jews to 497,000 Palestinians) and at this time the Zionist settlers only owned 6% of the land.

The solution was ethnic cleansing. By waging a war of terror against the civilian Palestinian population, the Zionists were able to occupy 81% of the total area of Palestine by the end of the 1948 war.

One of the worst acts of terror during this war was the Deir Yasseen massacre. On April 9, 1948, the Irgun and the Stern gang attacked the village of Deir Yasseen and massacred 120 villagers. To ensure that the massacre had maximum effect in forcing Palestinians to flee, the terrorist forces raped women and girls, butchered infants and cut open the womb of a nine-months pregnant woman.

This was just one of a number of massacres that terrorised more than 90% of the Palestinian population into fleeing their homes.

After forcing the Palestinian population to flee the villages, the Israeli forces would often blow up the houses to ensure the residents had nothing to return to. To reinforce the point, the Israeli authorities then “legally” confiscated the homes, fields and property of all Palestinians who had not been in their “regular place of residence” on September 1, 1948.

The media coverage of the attacks on New York has emphasised that the victims of terrorism are not just those killed and injured but also their families, and the society as a whole. Today there are more than 3.7 million Palestinian refugees registered by the UN and about another two million who are not registered. These refugees are the victims of the acts of terrorism carried out in the 1948 war and of further terrorist acts carried out in the last 53 years.

In the Balkans, some refugees have been allowed to return — but not in Israel. There, Palestinian refugees are not allowed to return, despite the fact that under international law they have every right to. UN resolution 194 passed in 1948 explicitly affirms this right — but Israel's ethnic cleansing and defiance of this UN resolution goes unpunished by the UN and the US.

While the Palestinian victims of Israeli terrorism are left to rot in refugee camps, Israel struts the world stage claiming to be a democracy. This Israeli form of “democracy” is based on driving out more than half the indigenous population of the country and thereby denying their right to participate in any aspect of society.

Meir Kahane, one of Israel's best known civilian terrorists, openly acknowledged this fact. According to Kahane: “There is no question of setting up democracy in Israel because democracy means equal rights for all, irrespective of racial or religious origins. You can't, on the one hand, want a Jewish state and, at the same time, give non-Jews the right to become a majority.”

Denying the right of Palestinian refugees to return is therefore essential to maintaining Israeli “democracy”.

Hostage taking
Hollywood has produced numerous films in which “evil terrorists”, usually Arabs, take innocent civilians, usually Americans, hostage and make demands that must be met before the hostages are released.

We all know the script: the ruthless hijackers kill a hostage to show they mean business, the US government refuses to negotiate with terrorists, one of the hostages is a Special Forces-trained superhero who leads the fight against the hijackers, eventually killing them all and setting the hostages free.

These “Hollywood principles” generally reflect the public stance of the US government in relation to terrorism. This tough “no negotiations, blow the terrorists away” stance was exactly that taken by the US and its allies in relation to the Taliban's offer to negotiate on a international trial for bin Laden. Any suggestion that there should be negotiations or an assessment of the legitimacy of the territorial claims was dismissed as appeasement and rewarding terrorist aggression.

Do these principles apply to Israel?

Israel's 1948 acquisition of territory by force went unpunished. No doubt encouraged by this success, in 1967 Israel invaded the rest of Palestine and parts of Egypt and Syria, taking millions of civilians hostage. Israel demanded that its “right to exist” be recognised before it would withdraw and release the hostages. The passing of UN Security Council resolution 242 calling on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories had no effect.

So did the US launch immediate military action against Israel? No. It called for negotiations while continuing to provide Israel with massive military aid.

In 1973, Egypt and Syria took military action to attempt to free their citizens and territory held hostage by Israel, exercising their right to self-defence under international law. The US response was to provide Israel with all the emergency military aid it needed to defeat Egypt and Syria.

The experience of Egypt's 1977 peace treaty with Israel seems to confirm the argument that negotiating with terrorists only encourages them. After Egypt had met Israel's demands for recognition and had its territory returned, Israel promptly invaded Lebanon in 1978, and again in 1982.

In effect, Israel has held millions of innocent civilians hostage since 1967 and has killed thousands of Palestinians who have resisted this. While in Hollywood movies and in Afghanistan, it is quite legitimate for the “civilised world” (read, the US and its allies) to kill “terrorists”, those Palestinians who have exercised their right, under international law, to resist the illegal Israeli occupation of their land have been designated “terrorists” themselves.

During the 1982 invasion of Lebanon the civilian toll from the terrorist activities of the Israeli army was 12,000 killed, 40,000 wounded, 300,000 homeless.

Over the course of the invasion the Israeli army used a range of terror weapons on civilians including cluster bombs and phosphorous bombs and shells. The use of phosphorous bombs and shells for military objectives is banned under the 1980 UN Geneva convention.

This description of their effect by journalist Robert Fisk explains why: “Dr Shamaa found that the two five-day old twins had already died but they were still on fire. `I had to take the babies and put them in buckets of water to put out the flames’, she said. `When I took them out half an hour later they were still burning’.”

The Israeli army entrusted the dirtiest work of the invasion to their right-wing Lebanese allies, the Phalangists. On September 15, 1982, the Israeli army sealed the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in West Beirut and Israeli defence minister Ariel Sharon authorised a unit of 150 Phalangists to enter the camps.

The Phalangists preceded to slaughter at least 1000 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians over a two-day period while the Israeli army looked on.

Just because Israel is the most successful terrorist state in the world does not mean there is no role for Israeli civilians in carrying out terrorist acts.

On February 25, 1994, Barukh Goldstein, an Israeli settler, massacred around 50 Palestinian worshippers at the Ibrahimi mosque in Hebron. Goldstein was a well-known leader of Kach, an extreme right-wing Zionist organisation. Wearing a military uniform he entered the mosque and emptied two clips of a machine gun into Muslim worshippers. In the two weeks following the massacre, the Israeli army continued Goldstein's work by killing another 30 Palestinians.

While fanatical settlers such as Goldstein are directly involved in terrorising Palestinian civilians, it is the “ordinary” Israeli settlers who provide a cover and excuse for Israeli state terrorism and further ethnic cleansing.

Protecting these Israeli civilians provides an excuse for the Israeli army to station large numbers of troops in the Palestinian territories. The land on which these illegal settlements are built, and the “security zones” around them, is confiscated from Palestinians. To ensure the settlers can travel freely, “Israeli-only” roads have been built which divide the Palestinian territories and have required the confiscation of even more Palestinian land.

While renowned for its large-scale atrocities, Israel combines this with smaller-scale daily terrorism, which has the greatest impact. For the past 34 years Israeli soldiers have held up Palestinian civilians at gunpoint on a daily basis.

Much has been made of the fact that those killed in New York were just ordinary people going about their daily business. The fear that you be could killed at any moment for no good reason is one of the worst effects of terrorism. This is a fear that Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied territories have lived with on a daily basis for over 30 years.

For Palestinians, however, the people who may kill them are not invisible; they are right in front of them every day pointing automatic weapons at them as they go about their daily business. They are the Israeli soldiers at the checkpoints, who may open fire at a suspicious movement, and the armed settlers, many of whom believe Palestinians should be expelled at gunpoint.

This is not an abstract fear, as most Palestinians have a close relative who has been killed or wounded by the Israeli army or has had their home blown up or bulldozed by the Israelis as punishment for resisting the occupation. According to Amnesty International, 2650 Palestinian houses were destroyed by Israel between 1987 and 2000.

The support of the US government has been crucial to Israel's terrorist success. The US continues to provide Israel with massive levels of military and non-military aid: $US3 billion in 1997 alone and a total $US74 billion since 1949.

With the continuing support of the US government, Israel's position in terrorism's number one spot looks secure for some time. On the same day that the Israeli army continued its ethnic cleansing program by demolishing 18 Palestinian houses in Gaza, the US called on Palestinians to stop their violence and crack down on terrorism so that “negotiations” with Israel can continue.


From Green Left Weekly, December 12, 2001.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2001/475/475p25.htm
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Syed Nizam
05-07-2006, 02:23 PM
Indeed, they are so successful to the extent that some people virtually blame everything on the Palestinian on the Israel-Palestinian conflict......
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Kittygyal
05-07-2006, 02:24 PM
salam.
ermmm....Israel are terrorist hmm...not sure about that
w.salam
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x Maz x
05-07-2006, 04:15 PM
Yes funded and backed by USA Israel has won! Congratulations, they are good at something *eyes rolly*..WalaykumAsalaam x
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*noor
05-07-2006, 04:21 PM
yup .....Israel are terrorist.....watch these videos

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VKQqItZu4Is&search=palestine

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6myF6ZlEpo4&search=palestine

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RoWoQ9pqNbo&search=palestine
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Cyril
05-07-2006, 04:28 PM
Instead of ranting about Israel on thousands of pages Arabs should rather look at themselves and wonder what they could do to be able to confront and defeat Israel.
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x Maz x
05-07-2006, 04:30 PM
Yeh well its good to 'rant' on and present the truth first before jumping 10 hurdles ahead and trying to defeat them, first the problem has to be stated then the solution Peace! x
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*noor
05-07-2006, 04:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cyril
Instead of ranting about Israel on thousands of pages Arabs should rather look at themselves and wonder what they could do to be able to confront and defeat Israel.

you do have a point......in the Quran it says that we should all be together, regardless of where were from and defend ourselves............self defense is encouraged in the Quran so we should defend ourselves against the Israelis, but that cant happen unless we work together. and its not Arabs that should be defending Palestine, its the Muslims in general because Palestine belongs to the Muslims, not necessarily the Arabs. :)
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x Maz x
05-07-2006, 04:42 PM
"O Mankind!We have created you from a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that ye may know one another (Not that ye may despise eachother). Verily the most honourable amongst you in the site of Allah is that who has At-Taqwaa [i.e one of the Mutataqun (pios)]. Verily Allah is All-knowing, All-Aware"

"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and argue with them in ways that are best." Sura An-Nahl 16:125
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Zzims
05-07-2006, 04:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cyril
Instead of ranting about Israel on thousands of pages Arabs should rather look at themselves and wonder what they could do to be able to confront and defeat Israel.
hmm i agree.. but the message seen clearly.. that the US is backing the only fully known and successful terrorist entity....
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KAding
05-07-2006, 07:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Syed Nizam
ISRAEL: A terrorist success story

BY ROB MILLER

If there was an Academy Awards ceremony for terrorism, Israel would sweep every category — and every acceptance speech would have to thank the government of United States, whose generous support has made Israel the most successful terrorist state in the world.

How do you measure the success of terrorism? Is it by the numbers of civilians killed, maimed and terrorised or the level of disruption and fear brought to peoples' daily lives? Israel scores very highly on both these counts.
I disagree. By all objective criteria Israel scores poorly on these counts.

I mean take the 10 years or so since the Oslo Accords were signed. About 4000 Palestinians have died in that time period. There is some dispute about the number of combatants in that figure, but it appears to range between 23% and 50%. So lets assume the worst and say about 3000 civilians died in 10 years. So about 300 Palestinians civilians a year.

Now, of course that is horrible. But historically it is simply peanuts. I mean compare it to the number of deaths in Iraq (both now and under Saddam), Congo, Darfur, Chechnya or China.

Some comparable events:


Not to say the Israelis don't commit crimes occasionally. But surely accusing it to be the worst 'state terrorist' out there is just plain nonsense. I mean, look at the Russian conduct in Chechnya for example, they essentially leveled Grozny. IMHO there have been few authoritarian regimes out there that killed less civilians then the Israelis did. I know this is an emotional issue, but please lets keep it in perspective.
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Cyril
05-08-2006, 07:29 AM
Post by Nurofislam:
Palestine belongs to the Muslims, not necessarily the Arabs.
Palestine belongs to those who live in Palestine, not necessarily to the Muslims.
See what Moses says to the Israelites in the Quran:
5-21) "O my people, enter the holy land which Allah has granted to you..."
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syilla
05-08-2006, 07:34 AM
bravo...bravo...

*clap *clap...

congratulations on the award...
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SirZubair
05-08-2006, 07:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cyril
Instead of ranting about Israel on thousands of pages Arabs should rather look at themselves and wonder what they could do to be able to confront and defeat Israel.
Agreed.

Muslims in this time and age are Far too busy pointing the finger at everyone,rather than trying to get to the bottom of the problem.

And whenever someone mentions "bottom of the problem",dozens of people stand up and shout "JIHAD!!!"

..no. That is not the answer.

There was a time when Muslims ruled the world,..they didnt rule the world by holding a sword to everyones neck,WE ruled the world by THINKInG,USING OUR BRAINS,DOING GOOD,DEFEATING EVIL (..once again,No,not by killing innocents)

If that same mind-set can be brought back into existance,Muslims will rule the world again.

But unfortunetly, 'the local imam said to hate all kufr!",so the majority of muslims spend their time and effort into spreading hate.

Congrats people,If muhammed s.a.w was alive today,he'd be very proud of you. :rollseyes
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Zzims
05-08-2006, 09:56 AM
Well lets just see what happens in 10 years... turn the blind eye to israeli aggression.. its not my position to say what is God's will.. but most of God's prophets were put on earth to preach to jews because of theyre backward ways.. most of prophets in history were for the jews..most of them were put to death..by the jews ppl themselves.. if God himself has curse these ppl as they wont accept him as their god.. what else better we can do to compramise with the jews..what else better can we do more then God himself.. Its right to forgive.. too seek and give forgiveness is good..it is a good virtue but theres is a limited to it.. the same wrong doing cannot be repeated.. in the palestinian situation it is their right to get their land back wether or not they forgive and forgot the atrocities they faced.. what is right should be given back to the rightful owner.. wait and see what would be the next curse for them..
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IceQueen~
05-08-2006, 10:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cyril
Post by Nurofislam:

Palestine belongs to those who live in Palestine, not necessarily to the Muslims.
See what Moses says to the Israelites in the Quran:
5-21) "O my people, enter the holy land which Allah has granted to you..."
actaully, islamically the jews of the past were muslims of their time because they beleived in the prophet of their time (moses) and muslim just means to submit to GOd.
in the quran God gave palestine to abraham before the time of moses and when abraham asked about his offspring, God said that only the ones who don't commit acts of injustice and believe in the Lord of abraham are allowed to live in palestine.
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05-08-2006, 10:05 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by marge1
actaully, islamically the jews of the past were muslims of their time because they beleived in the prophet of their time (moses) and muslim just means to submit to GOd.
in the quran God gave palestine to abraham before the time of moses and when abraham asked about his offspring, God said that only the ones who don't commit acts of injustice and believe in the Lord of abraham are allowed to live in palestine.
I totally agree.:)
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Cyril
05-09-2006, 03:31 PM
muslim just means to submit to GOd.
In that case any religious person from any non-polytheistic religion is a muslim.
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-09-2006, 04:17 PM
jzk for that.
:w:
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*noor
05-09-2006, 04:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cyril
Post by Nurofislam:

Palestine belongs to those who live in Palestine, not necessarily to the Muslims.
See what Moses says to the Israelites in the Quran:
5-21) "O my people, enter the holy land which Allah has granted to you..."
and the Muslims are one. Islam does not differentiate between nationalities, all are supposed to be as one.
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Muezzin
05-09-2006, 06:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by nurofislam
and the Muslims are one. Islam does not differentiate between nationalities, all are supposed to be as one.
Yet so many of us conveniently forget that when it comes to Israel or the US.

And to those who justify blatant hate-mongering of Israel, rather than a balanced criticial examination, I say where are your 'we need to identify the problem before we tackle it' arguments when people mention atrocities comitted in the name of Islam, or atrocities comitted in Muslim lands by people calling themselves Muslims? Why is it if we point out that a certain Muslim leader uses terror, we are said to be backbiting, when we can call Israelis terrorists and be commended for somehow being 'good' Muslims? Why is it that we seem only to want to point out injustices when they are perpetrated by non-Muslims?

Anyway, that rant was off-topic. Just needed to get it off my chest.

Everyone, please keep this a civil critical examination of a certain state's actions rather than an open floodgate to every anti-Israeli argument you might possibly think of.

Jazakallah.
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-10-2006, 09:39 AM
Are Muslims actually defending israel? Wow, never saw that one coming.
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Muezzin
05-10-2006, 10:57 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~Mu'MiNaH~
Are Muslims actually defending israel? Wow, never saw that one coming.
Which Muslim is defending Israel? Where is this straw man argument going?
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-10-2006, 01:59 PM
A what arguement? And i'm not argueing.
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Muezzin
05-10-2006, 02:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~Mu'MiNaH~
A what arguement? And i'm not argueing.
A straw man argument. I thought your post was a response to mine. I was saying 'We shouldn't hate Israel, we should hate injustice itself, wherever it is', and then I thought you replied 'Oh, so you're defending Israel?' That's a straw man.

If you were not replying to my post, I apologise for any confusion or upset I caused.
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-10-2006, 02:28 PM
Nah i'm not upset, and I wasn't referring to you. No worries.
:w:
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R_Mujahed
05-10-2006, 04:22 PM
Whatever goes up must come down... When it is again time for True Islam to rise, peace will be spread! We will just have to wait and see!
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Ghazi
05-10-2006, 04:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by R_Mujahed
Whatever goes up must come down... When it is again time for True Islam to rise, peace will be spread! We will just have to wait and see!
Salaam

Inshallah Ameen.
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SirZubair
05-10-2006, 05:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Cyril
In that case any religious person from any non-polytheistic religion is a muslim.
As well as testifying the One-ness of God (Btw,.Al - means THE. Lah - Means God ) a muslim must testify the fact that Muhammed s.a.w is the last prophet.

"La illahah ilalah,Muhammed 'ur rasoollilah"

Adam a.s IS a muslim,Moses/Musa IS a muslim,Noah/Nur IS a muslim,Jesus/Eisa a.s IS a muslim. They accepted the Oneness of Allah,Since Muhammed s.a.w wasnt around at that time,they couldnt say "he is the last messenger"

I dont know where i am going with this,so i think i'll go now.

lol.

Wa'salaam.
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x Maz x
05-10-2006, 05:59 PM
Ameen,

"O Mankind!We have created you from a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, so that ye may know one another (Not that ye may despise eachother). Verily the most honourable amongst you in the site of Allah is that who has At-Taqwaa [i.e one of the Mutataqun (pios)]. Verily Allah is All-knowing, All-Aware"


SubhanAllah! WalaykumAsalaam x
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Nablus
05-10-2006, 06:21 PM
Israeli will suffer more than the palestinians
because of its black history
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-12-2006, 09:16 AM
I'd just like to remind everyone, that while it's easy for us to call for Allah to destroy Israel (i've certainly done it a couple of times), the fact remains that we are the cause of the Ummah's downfall.
Look at what Umar ibn al Khattab said to Sa'ad ibn Abi Waqqas (may Allah be pleased with them both) when he sent him on the battle of Qadisiyyah (i believe):“Fear your sins more than you fear the enemy as your sins are more dangerous to you than your enemy. We Muslims are only victorious over our enemy because their sins outnumber ours, not for any other reason. If our sins were equal to those of our enemy, then they would defeat us due to their superior numbers and resources.”
Something for us all to reflect on, insha-Allah.
:w:
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R_Mujahed
05-12-2006, 09:51 PM
Then a again the Story is not over yet....
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