MinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 09:16 AM
Did you Know?
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20 Basic facts about the Zionist Regime of Israel Regarding The Palestine Problem:
THAT, when the Palestine Problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 90% of the population of Palestine were Arabs?... And that there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine?
THAT, more than half of the Jews living in Palestine at that time were recent immigrants, who had come to Palestine in the preceding decades in order to escape persecution in Europe?... And that less than 5% of the population of Palestine were native Palestinian Jews?
THAT, the Arabs of Palestine at that time owned 97.5% of the land, while Jews (native Palestinians and recent immigrants together) owned only 2.5% of the land?
THAT, during the thirty years of British occupation and rule, the Zionists were able to purchase only 3.5% of the land of Palestine, in spite of the encouragement of the British Government?... And that much of this land was transferred to Zionist bodies by the British Government directly, and was not sold by Arab owners?
THAT, therefore, when British passed the Palestine Problem to the United Nations in 1947, Zionists owned no more than 6% of the total land area of Palestine?
THAT, notwithstanding these facts, the General Assembly of the United Nations recommended that a "Jewish State" be established in Palestine?... And that the Assembly granted that proposed "State" about 54% of the total area of the country?
THAT, Israel immediately occupied (and still occupies) 80.48% of the total land area of Palestine?
THAT, this territorial expansion took place, for the most part, before 15 May 1948: i.e., before the formal end of the British forces from Palestine, before the entry of Arab armies to protect Palestinian Arabs, and before the the Arab-Israeli war?
THAT, the 1947 recommendation of the General Assembly in favor of the creation of a "Jewish State" was outside the competence of the Assembly under the Charter of the United Nations?
THAT, all attempts by the Arab States and other Asian countries to have the Assembly submit the question of "constitutionality" of its recommendation to the International Court of Justice for an "advisory opinion" by the Court were rejected or ignored by the Assembly?
THAT, when the Assembly began to experience "second thoughts" over the matter and convened for its second special session in 1948, it failed to reaffirm the 1947 recommendation for the partition of Palestine-thus destroying whatever dubious legality that recommendation for the establishment of a "Jewish State" had had?
THAT, that original 1947 recommendation to create a "Jewish State" in Palestine was approved, at the first vote, only by European, American and Australian States...for every Asian State, and every African State (with the exception of the Union of South Africa) voted against it?...And that, when the vote was cast in plenary session on 29 November 1947, urgent American pressures (which a member of the Truman cabinet described as "bordering onto scandal") had succeeded in prevailing only upon one African country (Liberia), both of which had special vulnerability to American pressures, to abandon their declared opposition?...And that, in other words, the "Jewish State" was planted at the point-of-intersection of Asia and Africa without the free approval of any Middle Eastern, Asian or African country except that Union of South Africa, itself ruled by an alien minority?
THAT, Israel remained, ever since its inception, a total stranger in the emerging world of Afro-Asia; and that Israel has been refused admission to any inter-state conference of Asian, African, Afro-Asian, or Non-Aligned States ever held?
THAT, since the General Armistice Agreements were signed in 1949, Israel has maintained an aggressive policy of waging military attacks across the Armistice Demarcation Lines, repeatedly invading the territories of the neighboring Arab States...And that Israel has been duly rebuked, censured, or condemned for these military attacks by the Security Council of the General Assembly of the United Nations on eleven occasions-five times by the Security Council and six times by the General Assembly?
THAT, no other country in the world, whether member of the United Nations or non-member, has been so frequently condemned by the United Nations?
THAT, no Arab State has ever been condemned by any organ of the United Nations for military attacks upon Israel( or any other State)?
THAT, besides expelling the bulk of the Arab inhabitants of Palestine, and besides constantly attacking the neighboring Arab States, Israel has also consistently harassed the United Nations observers and other personnel stationed along the Armistice Demarcation Lines: It has assassinated the first United Nations Mediator and his military aide; it has detained some truce observers; it has military occupied and illegally searched the Headquarters of United Nations personnel; and it has boycotted meetings of the Mixed Armistice Commissions?...
THAT, Israel has additionally imposed a system of apartheid upon the Arabs who stayed in their homeland?...More than 90% of these Arabs live in "security zones;" they alone live under martial law, restricting their freedom to travel from village to village or from town to town; their children are denied equal opportunities for education; and they are denied decent opportunities for work, and the right to receive "equal pay for equal work?"
THAT, notwithstanding the foregoing facts, Israel has always been, and still is, widely portrayed in the Western press as the "bastion of democracy" and the "champion of peace" in the Middle East?
THAT, the Western Powers have persisted in declaring their determination to ensure a so-called "arms balance" in the area, as between Israel, on the one hand, and the one-hundred million inhabitants of the thirteen Arab States, on the other hand?... And this unilateral Western doctrine of so-called "arms balance" is no more reasonable than the suggestion that, in the Cuba-U.S.A conflict, there should be "arms balance" as between Cuba and the United States... or that the whole Continent of Africa should not be allowed to acquire more arms than South Africa... or that Mainland China should not be permitted to have more arms than Taiwan... or that the military allowed to acquire more arms than South Africa... and that only thus can peace be safeguarded in the Western Hemisphere, in Africa, in Asia, or in Europe?...
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Did you know that since the Intifada (Islamic Resistance) Started in December of 1987, the anti-peace Zionist in the Holy land have killed more than 2,000 innocent Muslim & Christian civilians, Injured more than 130,000, caused more than 19,000 detentions, and imposed more than 13,000 curfews on innocent people.
Israel is not only the anti-thesis of a just peace in the Middle-East; It is also the anti-thesis to peace in the US. The American Sponsored "Middle East Peace Talks" are not the solution to the problem. They may even wind up enlarging it.
Israel is an Illegal Zionist Entity.
There is one thing everybody agrees upon and that is JUSTICE! And JUSTICE Shall be Done!
FACTS ABOUT ISRAELI STATE TERRORISM
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Survey of Israeli Acts of Aggression Against Al-Aqsa Mosque Since 1967
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Thirty years have passed since Messianic Jews tried to and partially succeeded in burning-down Islam's third holiest sanctuary, Al-Masjid al-Aqsa. The nefarious sacrilege was by no means, as the Israeli government then suggested, an isolated act committed by a deranged man who acted on his own. Quite the contrary, the morbid Israeli designs against the sacred Muslim shrine show that diabolical feat was a deliberate collective act of aggression carried out with the unmistakable acquiescence of the Israeli political establishment and the active encouragement of much of the world's Jewry and their fundamentalist Christian allies. The following is a list of the acts of aggression and desecration against the Al-Aqsa Mosque since June 7, 1967:
June 7, 1967: The occupation authorities confiscated the keys of the western gate known as Bab-el-Maghrabia immediately after Israeli troops seized the town from the fleeing Jordanians.
June 9, 1967: The congregational Friday Prayer was not held on orders from the occupation authorities. That was the first time the Juma'a prayer didn't take place since the liberation of Jerusalem from the hands of the crusades in 1187 A.D.
June 21, 1969: An Australian-born Zionist terrorist, Denis Michael Rohan, entered the mosque and set the magnificent Nurrudin Zinki Mihrab on fire. The fire gutted the unique Mihrab, which has been restored. The sacrilegious act against the mosque was condemned worldwide, but was praised by the wide segments of world Jewry and Christian fundamentalists who view the creation of Israel in Palestine as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy and a precedence to the second advent of Jesus.
November 16, 1969: The Israeli occupation authorities seized the Fakhriyya corner on the south-western side of the Haram-al-Sharif.
August 14, 1970: The Gershon Salmon group, an ultra-fanatic group dedicated to the so-called rebuilding of the temple of Solomon on the site of Al-Masjidul Aqsa after it is demolished, forcibly entered the premises of the Haram, but were repulsed by Muslims. The confrontation resulted in tens of worshippers being injured by Israeli troop gunfire.
April 19, 1980: A group of Jewish rabbis and sages held a semi-secret conference devoted to exploring ways and means "to liberate the Temple Mount from Muslim hands."
August 28, 1980: The Israeli occupation authorities dug a tunnel right underneath he mosque.
March 30, 1982: Numerous letters were sent to Muslim Waqf authorities urging them to abandon the temple mount and warning them of the dire consequences of their "usurpation of our temple". The letters were written in Hebrew, English, French, Spanish and Polish. May 20, 1982: Several Zionist organizations sent death threats to Waqf officials.
April 11, 1982: An Israeli soldier named Allen Goodman stormed the interior of the mosque spraying worshippers with bullets from his M-16 assault rifle, killing and wounding over 60 Palestinians.
March 26, 1983: The main entrance to the Jerusalem's Waqf department collapsed due to Israeli excavation underneath.
August 21, 1985: The Israeli police permitted Jewish extremists to hold prayers within the confines of the Haram promises.
August 4, 1986: A group of Rabbis issued a final ruling allowing Jews to pray at the Haram-al-Sharif, and demanded the establishment of a synagogue in the area.
May 12, 1988: Israeli soldiers opened fire on a peaceful Muslim march at the Haram, killing, and wounding about a hundred Palestinians.
August 8, 1990: The Israeli authorities committed a grisly massacre at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, killing 22 worshippers and injuring over 200.
July 25, 1995, the Israeli high court of justice issued a ruling, allowing Jews to pray at the "Temple Mount". The decision sparked off widespread protests among Muslims
ReplyMuezzin
05-08-2006, 01:59 PM
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I'll keep this thread open on the condition that nobody deviates from the topic. That means keeping strictly to the facts as outlined in the first post. Anything else will be deleted.
Also, as a general rule please provide the source of the information when creating threads in the World Affairs section.
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05-08-2006, 02:26 PM
Do u know the palestinian people will be more than the jews in 2010 so they are bringing africans to increase their number!!!!
Replyknuckles
05-08-2006, 02:44 PM
THAT, when the Palestine Problem was created by Britain in 1917, more than 90% of the population of Palestine were Arabs?... And that there were at that time no more than 56,000 Jews in Palestine?
Actually 78% Arab, 11% Jew and 10% Christian. What's the point? Before the Caliphate took over it was 90% Jew.
THAT, more than half of the Jews living in Palestine at that time were recent immigrants, who had come to Palestine in the preceding decades in order to escape persecution in Europe?... And that less than 5% of the population of Palestine were native Palestinian Jews?
THAT, the Arabs of Palestine at that time owned 97.5% of the land, while Jews (native Palestinians and recent immigrants together) owned only 2.5% of the land?
Again so what? Everyone, everywhere has at one point in time have been an immigrant. Also the British put limits on the immigration when anti-semitism grew in the 1920s. Look it up.
THAT, during the thirty years of British occupation and rule, the Zionists were able to purchase only 3.5% of the land of Palestine, in spite of the encouragement of the British Government?... And that much of this land was transferred to Zionist bodies by the British Government directly, and was not sold by Arab owners?
Which Arabs didn't mind til the 1920s
THAT, therefore, when British passed the Palestine Problem to the United Nations in 1947, Zionists owned no more than 6% of the total land area of Palestine?
They owned land nobody wanted. The Pals didn't even want it. Look at a map of the time. The land was arid.
THAT, notwithstanding these facts, the General Assembly of the United Nations recommended that a "Jewish State" be established in Palestine?... And that the Assembly granted that proposed "State" about 54% of the total area of the country?
The Jewish state was to receive 55% of Mandatory Palestine. This included the fruitful shore plain and the Negev desert. The desert was not suitable for agriculture, nor for urban development at that time. I say that's a pretty crappy deal. Also Arabs owned land in less than half of Palestine. The rest was "crown land".
THAT, Israel immediately occupied (and still occupies) 80.48% of the total land area of Palestine?
No they were immediately attacked.
THAT, this territorial expansion took place, for the most part, before 15 May 1948: i.e., before the formal end of the British forces from Palestine, before the entry of Arab armies to protect Palestinian Arabs, and before the the Arab-Israeli war?
That is pure bs. Attack came immediately after Israel was declared a state
THAT, the 1947 recommendation of the General Assembly in favor of the creation of a "Jewish State" was outside the competence of the Assembly under the Charter of the United Nations?
Why was it? Britian expressed that they wanted to end their mandate and asked the UN to partition it.
THAT, all attempts by the Arab States and other Asian countries to have the Assembly submit the question of "constitutionality" of its recommendation to the International Court of Justice for an "advisory opinion" by the Court were rejected or ignored by the Assembly?
Proof?
THAT, when the Assembly began to experience "second thoughts" over the matter and convened for its second special session in 1948, it failed to reaffirm the 1947 recommendation for the partition of Palestine-thus destroying whatever dubious legality that recommendation for the establishment of a "Jewish State" had had?
THAT, that original 1947 recommendation to create a "Jewish State" in Palestine was approved, at the first vote, only by European, American and Australian States...for every Asian State, and every African State (with the exception of the Union of South Africa) voted against it?...And that, when the vote was cast in plenary session on 29 November 1947, urgent American pressures (which a member of the Truman cabinet described as "bordering onto scandal") had succeeded in prevailing only upon one African country (Liberia), both of which had special vulnerability to American pressures, to abandon their declared opposition?...And that, in other words, the "Jewish State" was planted at the point-of-intersection of Asia and Africa without the free approval of any Middle Eastern, Asian or African country except that Union of South Africa, itself ruled by an alien minority?
That's a straight out lie:
On November 29, the UN General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favor of the Partition Plan, while making some adjustments to the boundaries between the two states proposed by it. The division was to take effect on the date of British withdrawal. The 33 countries that voted in favor of UN Resolution 181: Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Belarus, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukraine, USSR, USA, Uruguay, Venezuela.
The 13 countries that voted against UN Resolution 181: Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.
The ten countries that abstained: Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.
One state was absent: Thailand.
THAT, Israel remained, ever since its inception, a total stranger in the emerging world of Afro-Asia; and that Israel has been refused admission to any inter-state conference of Asian, African, Afro-Asian, or Non-Aligned States ever held?
So what?
THAT, no other country in the world, whether member of the United Nations or non-member, has been so frequently condemned by the United Nations?
I think USSR and China might disagree with you
THAT, no Arab State has ever been condemned by any organ of the United Nations for military attacks upon Israel( or any other State)?
That's why the US vetos any resolution againse Israel
THAT, besides expelling the bulk of the Arab inhabitants of Palestine, and besides constantly attacking the neighboring Arab States, Israel has also consistently harassed the United Nations observers and other personnel stationed along the Armistice Demarcation Lines: It has assassinated the first United Nations Mediator and his military aide; it has detained some truce observers; it has military occupied and illegally searched the Headquarters of United Nations personnel; and it has boycotted meetings of the Mixed Armistice Commissions?...
Proof?
THAT, Israel has additionally imposed a system of apartheid upon the Arabs who stayed in their homeland?...More than 90% of these Arabs live in "security zones;" they alone live under martial law, restricting their freedom to travel from village to village or from town to town; their children are denied equal opportunities for education; and they are denied decent opportunities for work, and the right to receive "equal pay for equal work?"
Proof?
THAT, notwithstanding the foregoing facts, Israel has always been, and still is, widely portrayed in the Western press as the "bastion of democracy" and the "champion of peace" in the Middle East?
Sure it is especially if you consider it's neighbors
THAT, the Western Powers have persisted in declaring their determination to ensure a so-called "arms balance" in the area, as between Israel, on the one hand, and the one-hundred million inhabitants of the thirteen Arab States, on the other hand?... And this unilateral Western doctrine of so-called "arms balance" is no more reasonable than the suggestion that, in the Cuba-U.S.A conflict, there should be "arms balance" as between Cuba and the United States... or that the whole Continent of Africa should not be allowed to acquire more arms than South Africa... or that Mainland China should not be permitted to have more arms than Taiwan... or that the military allowed to acquire more arms than South Africa... and that only thus can peace be safeguarded in the Western Hemisphere, in Africa, in Asia, or in Europe?...
Non sequitor
ReplyIceQueen~
05-08-2006, 02:48 PM
you keep asking for proof for evrything knuckles-next time-ask for proof when they state on the news that usamma bin laden did the 9/11 attacks...
Replyknuckles
05-08-2006, 02:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
marge1
you keep asking for proof for evrything knuckles-next time-ask for proof when they state on the news that usamma bin laden did the 9/11 attacks...
I've posted proof on that ad nauseum. A few posters have. I'm not gonna get dragged back into that considering it's off topic. You wanna discuss it start a new thread.
ReplyR_Mujahed
05-08-2006, 03:48 PM
It is all Political...80% of the jews in Palestine own 20% of the land while the other 20% of the jews own 80% of the Land...
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:07 PM
Really, they're just all having tea and biscuits, aren't they? I must have mistook the jam for blood. Sorry, my mistake!!!
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:11 PM
Really. So what do you call what israel is doing to Palestine? A stroll in the park?
God, and they say us Muslims are delusional.
Replyknuckles
05-08-2006, 04:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
~Mu'MiNaH~
Really. So what do you call what israel is doing to Palestine? A stroll in the park?
God, and they say us Muslims are delusional.
Rwanda was a genocide, Dafur is a genocide, Palestine is not. If it was a genocide there would be a heck of a lot more bodies.
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:14 PM
Yeah add up all the bodies and it's alot. Only difference is no one is making any intervention.
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:15 PM
Do you know the history of chechnya... there was also a genocide there that hardly any one knows about!
Replyimaad_udeen
05-08-2006, 04:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
~Mu'MiNaH~
Really, they're just all having tea and biscuits, aren't they? I must have mistook the jam for blood. Sorry, my mistake!!!
There is a difference between genocide and atrocities.
There have certainly been atrocities commited by the Israelis against the Palestinians and there have been Palestinian atrocities against the Israelis.
But genocide implies an attempt to kill off an entire group of people, racial, religious or national groups.
gen·o·cide (jĕn'ə-sīd')
n.
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.
There is no planned, systematic extermination of the Palestinians. There are no Dachau's, no Aschwitz' etc.
ReplyKAding
05-08-2006, 04:23 PM
How long ago should something have been conquered before the conqueror can keep it? When the Ottomans conquered Constantinople 550 years ago there was hardly a Muslim in the whole city? Should it be returned?
But we can look at other territorial expansions in the 20th century. What about Eastern Poland in 1939? The Russians simply took it? Give it back to the Poles? And does that mean the Germans can have most of Western Poland back?
Should the Alsace/Lorraine area of France be returned to Germany? After all when the French got it it was mostly German-speaking? Should it be returned?
And what about Northern Ireland?
I agree that conquest is hardly a valid way to acquire land, but where do we draw the line? How long ago should something have been conquered? 10 years? 50 years? 200 years? 500 years? 1400 years? Does it matter if the 'new owners' are now in a majority? I mean, how many countries in the world have borders that have not been defined by military conquest?
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:28 PM
Excuse me, but the arguement for israel's right for that land does not make sense. How can you bring up that 'promised land' excuse when you are a secular state? And that land is also holy to Muslims!
So yes we have a right to live there!
ReplyKAding
05-08-2006, 04:35 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
~Mu'MiNaH~
Yeah add up all the bodies and it's alot. Only difference is no one is making any intervention.
3000 in 10 years.
Millions have died in Congo in the same timespan and that isn't even considered a genocide.
Syria killed 30,000 during the Hama massacre in one month.
Jordan killed 3000 pals during Black September, also in one month.
Sorry, by any objective measures Palestine is not a big war. I mean, in Nepal more people died in 10 years, and people hardly accepted it classifies as a civil war.
It might be unfair, but it not a major conflict, not now at least. Even the actual wars of 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 were fairly limited if one looks at the number of casualties, especially among Palestinians.
ReplyKAding
05-08-2006, 04:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
~Mu'MiNaH~
Excuse me, but the arguement for israel's right for that land does not make sense. How can you bring up that 'promised land' excuse when you are a secular state? And that land is also holy to Muslims!
So yes we have a right to live there!
There are already many Muslims in Jerusalem. And also many Muslims in Israel.
However, since you guys all want to destroy the state Israel they don't want to let more of you back in :p.
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:43 PM
I don't know what your sources are, but i find it hard to believe that only 3000 people died in palestine in 10 years.
ReplyMinAhlilHadeeth
05-08-2006, 04:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
KAding
There are already many Muslims in Jerusalem. And also many Muslims in Israel.
However, since you guys all want to destroy the state Israel they don't want to let more of you back in :p.
Call me anti-semetic (i'm semetic to oactually... why did they claim that word???), but it seems you guys are pillow fluffing the truth.
You have no idea what 'us guys' want. I want peace for the palestinians actually. But i've seen some gruesome stuff which makes it hard for me to sympathise for israelis.
ReplyKAding
05-08-2006, 04:53 PM
If you guys really think the current situation is the worst Israel can do you are mistaken. They have a highly advanced army, if they wanted to they could level whole cities in WW2 style, killing half the population and making sure the other half flees to neighboring countries. A bit like Syria did at Hama.
They are not restrained by any Jihadist from doing this. What stops them is the West, their democratic nature and I suppose some morals.
It is always interesting that the worst massacre the Israelis supposedly commited, namely the one at Shaba and Shatilla were:
1. Not even commited by Israelis but by Christian militias
2. Sparked huge protest in Israel with hundreds of thousands marching in the streets. Resulting in a parliamentary inquiry which led to the resignation of the minister of defense.
Compare this to even larger massacres in the Muslim world commited by both Muslims and non-Muslims alike?
ReplyKAding
05-08-2006, 05:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
~Mu'MiNaH~
I don't know what your sources are, but i find it hard to believe that only 3000 people died in palestine in 10 years.
I had civilians casualties in mind. But lets take all casualties. Since 2000 the
Palestinian Red Cresent puts the number of deaths at about 3,800. Other sources, like B'tselem appear to have a figure in the low 3000's. An a
dditional 260 or so have died in the period 1995-2000, before the start of the second intifada.
So about 4000 in total in the worst case, which also includes combatants and possibly even casualties from Palestinian infighting.
How many do you think died? And what are your sources?
ReplyKAding
05-08-2006, 05:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
knuckles
Wow good to know. How some people explain it this conflict has been a bloodletting.
It is strange how some conflicts receive so much more attention than others. I mean, look at the wikipedia pages on this conflict and compare it to what they have about other more bloody wars and civil wars across the globe? It's even more obvious in the press, both Western and Muslim apparently.
Why do Muslims have such a strong focus on Israel and not, say, Chechnya? I think it could be linked to the level of press freedom in the occupied territories. If I am not mistaken Russia simply keep out any press, making it hard to report on events. The same can be seen in Iraq, initially there were hundreds of Western journalists in the country. But once the kidnappings and beheadings started they largely left. You can see this very well in especially European countries, which have less of a stake in Iraq. The number of reports on Iraq simply plummeted both on TV and in the newspapers.
Replyknuckles
05-08-2006, 05:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
KAding
It is strange how some conflicts receive so much more attention than others. I mean, look at the wikipedia pages on this conflict and compare it to what they have about other more bloody wars and civil wars across the globe? It's even more obvious in the press, both Western and Muslim apparently.
Why do Muslims have such a strong focus on Israel and not, say, Chechnya? I think it could be linked to the level of press freedom in the occupied territories. If I am not mistaken Russia simply keep out any press, making it hard to report on events. The same can be seen in Iraq, initially there were hundreds of Western journalists in the country. But once the kidnappings and beheadings started they largely left. You can see this very well in especially European countries, which have less of a stake in Iraq. The number of reports on Iraq simply plummeted both on TV and in the newspapers.
I have to admit I was caught up in it too because I thought the numbers at a minimum was double that.
ReplyZzims
05-08-2006, 05:49 PM
Well will just see what happens to israel in 10 years... right now we need to help the palestinian as much as we can..
ReplyZzims
05-09-2006, 01:35 PM
Well the Us isnt doing so well either.. dont get your hopes up.. anything can change in a blink of an eye.. pray u wont be anywhere near the US or Sirael when the time comes..
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