format_quote Originally Posted by
Trumble
In all of those cases bar Sale the rose reference is clearly to colour, not shape.
lol-- before you get too happy there-- (No red mentioned)-- I could almost see you needing an end table for your lower jaw!
let's have a look shall we...using the Arabic dictionary (sakhr) included at the bottom...
فَإِذَا انشَقَّتِ السَّمَاء فَكَانَتْ وَرْدَةً كَالدِّهَانِ {37}
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Dictionaries - القواميس
Arabic - English
إِذَا
حــــــــــــرف أَداةُ شَرْط
if , when
قَّ فــــعــــــــل اِنْفَصَلَ عَنْ , خَرَجَ عَلَى
separate from
اِنْفَلَعَ , تَصَدَّعَ
rift , split , cleave , crash , crack , fissure , rive , be rimose , be fissured , be or become broken , be burst (open) , be cleft , be or become cleft , burst open , break open , be rifted
سماء اســــــــــــم ما يُشَاهَدُ فَوْقَ الأَرْضِ كَقُبَّةٍ زَرْقاء
firmament , empyrean , sky
Arabic - English
كانَ فــــعــــــــل حَدَثَ
let it be(done) , be , was , were
كَان : فِي التَّصْرِيفِ الثَّالِث
been
Arabic - English
وَرْدَة
اســــــــــــم زَهْرَة
bloom , blossom , rose , flower
Dictionaries - القواميس
Arabic - English
دِهَان
اســــــــــــم طِلَاء
paint , facing , wash , coat , varnish , film , coating
مَرْهَم
ointment , liniment , salve , unguent , unction , cream
دِهَان مـــصــــــدر طَلْي , دَهْن
overlaying , varnishing , smearing , overlay , facing , anointing , anointment , coat , coating , daubing , embrocation , painting
مُدَاهَنَة
flattery , toadyism , blandishment , cajolery , adulation , dissemblance , currying favor with , fawning , lip service , sweet talk , fawning on , compliance
دَهَّان اســــــــــــم الذي يَدْهُن
painter , house painter
when the heaven splits asunder it becomes like a coated/annointed rose-- (fa'beay ala'a rabikouma tokaziban)
فَبِأَيِّ آلَاء رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ which of your lord's signs/favours do you wish to deny? is the proceeding verse... feel free to also stick in in the dictionary word for word!
one sign/favor-- not a cascade of miracles... (the Quran has beautiful poetic language) sure other nebulas exist... this is the one mentioned!
here is Sakhr dictionary-- I am sure you are familiar with cutting and pasting seeing all your handy posts-- just stick it in there word by word and see what comes up---:D
http://dictionary.sakhr.com/idrisidi...e5%f3%c7%e4%f6
I think you'd be better off arguing this with someone who wasn't a native Arabic speaker or a bit more timid than my person!
prophet Mohammed could not have known of such a nebula then and it was one of the things mentioned we should look for in the cosmos and reflect upon-- Along with the other things that you seem to have a handy dandy explanation for-- geography/geology/embryology/running a state/ laws of inheritance and marriage/ physiology of high altitude hypoxia/ lost cities.. you'd think he would have lived like a rich king?---
-- we have side tracked long enough--maybe we can get back to original post... if you have nothing more to dance about?
format_quote Originally Posted by
Trumble
I won't post again.
ah--if only I could believe it!..that would be a trumble miracle right there... ..
last note: of course I read my post.. I wrote it .. :rollseyes
peace!