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Nablus
05-22-2006, 06:18 PM
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NY Apple 'Mecca' rumored to be open 24-7

April 15, 2006 11:27 AM PDT We had really hoped to confirm recent blog reports that a massive Apple Computer store going up in midtown Manhattan, aka "Apple Mecca," will be the company's first retail outlet open 24 hours a day.

But, alas, an Apple spokesman said the company isn't ready to confirm, deny or make any official announcements about the store, so we can only offer our observations, and point to what others have written The store--which will reportedly be 25,000 square feet--is lo***ed in the underground retail plaza of the General Motors Building on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th streets, according to a February Think Secret report. Our photographer confirmed Friday that construction is well underway on a cube-shaped above-ground entrance to the building.

By all accounts, the store is supposed to open sometime in late May, and might also be the first store to feature an iPod Bar.

We were particularly impressed with the San Francisco Chronicle Culture Blog's observation that the "Mecca's" above-ground entrance "bears an uncanny resemblance to the big black Ka'bah (AKA: The House O' Abraham) to whence all Islamic pilgrims take their grueling mandatory hajj."

Makes sense, the blog adds, "because it shall be open 24 hours a day, seven days a week and hence shall be the place New Yorkers shall take a holy pilgrimage whenever they crave a new iPod Nano at 4:00 am or when they desperately need to have the Mac geeks at the Genius Bar instruct them on how to purge all the gay teen chat transcripts and German fetish porn from their iBooks before their Senate confirmation hearings."

For what it's worth, we did find Apple job postings for the Midtown store, and no mention of 24-7 work.

Posted by Michelle Meyers
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Fishman
05-22-2006, 06:27 PM
:sl:
I find it really disrespectful when people do this. There's a company called 'Mecca Bingo', which I am surprised hasn't been sued to pieces yet, as far as I know, things like bingo are forbidden to us. I think we should sue all these companies that abuse our religion for advertising purposes.
:w:
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Muslim Soldier
05-22-2006, 06:31 PM
Very true fishman
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Fishman
05-22-2006, 06:35 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Salam,

...and just who would be the suing party? The government of Saudi Arabia I presume?
:sl:
Muslim organsations should do it. Have you ever noticed that when people do this to other goups, there's always an uproar, but when this happens to us, we're too lazy to do anything.
:w:
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Muslim Soldier
05-22-2006, 06:38 PM
all of us muslims should stand up
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Fishman
05-22-2006, 06:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Soldier
all of us muslims should stand up
:sl:
If that happens things will probably get rather violent, like the cartoon controversy. If violent things like that occur, it will just reinforce the false idea that we are all free-speech-hating murderers. That's much worse than the corperate abuse that started the whole thing.

We should get peaceful Islamic organisations to come and speak against this, and if the don't stop, they should sue them. That way, no one will get hurt, except from people's savings.

Alphadude, Mecca is not just the name of a place, it's the name of the most important place on Earth for us. It should not be used to fill people's pockets. I have a problem with people using a place of religious significance to us being used to promote haram activities like gambling or music.
:w:
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Nablus
05-22-2006, 06:50 PM
where is the role of isalmic media?!!

where is the role of islamic movements in the world?


I am blaiming the islamic nations bcz they are ignoring islamic cases


May Allah return us to islam


Ameen
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primitivefuture
05-22-2006, 06:54 PM
I am sick and tired of all this laziness among Muslims. We must take action NOW, or we will face adverse consequences later.
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primitivefuture
05-22-2006, 07:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Chill out... what exactly is the problem with this? This kind of peasant mentality is just going to reinforce the notion that people in the west have built about muslims being backward and barbaric.
Why are we supposed to care about the opinions of the West?

They discriminate because we're Muslim.
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Shukria
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
Salam
Technically, the Holy city is spelt like Makkah. That's how it is pronounced as well..But companies lyk Mecca Bingo r trying to represent their estabilishment similar to the gathering of pilgrimages in Makkah..
Wasalam
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azim
05-22-2006, 11:04 PM
Asalaamu alaykum.

I agree this shouldn't really be a focus of any criticism. It's word that is quite secular in the English language. I'm more worried about then British soliders in Iraq murdering then British nannies in a community centre playing bingo.
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Nablus
05-23-2006, 09:37 AM
Chill out... what exactly is the problem with this? This kind of peasant mentality is just going to reinforce the notion that people in the west have built about muslims being backward and barbaric

Is this the western civilization?!!
is it democracy to harm others ?

are they humanbeings?!!
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Nablus
05-23-2006, 09:49 AM
u miss understand me


is it democracy to harm religions or believers

in islam we have to respect other religions and beliefs

,Iam commenting on the topi not on the post
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Nablus
05-23-2006, 11:11 AM
with picture


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfga...&entry_id=4203
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azim
05-23-2006, 12:35 PM
Asalamu alaykum.

I retract my earlier comments. I thought it was only a name. They are emulating the actual Ka'bah and I do find that quite disrespectful.

1Have you (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) not seen how your Lord dealt with the Owners of the Elephant? (The elephant army which came from Yemen under the command of Abrahah Al-Ashram intending to destroy the Kabah at Makkah). 2Did He not make their plot go astray? 3And sent against them birds, in flocks, 4Striking them with stones of Sijjeel. 5And made them like an empty field of stalks (of which the corn has been eaten up by cattle).
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Nablus
05-23-2006, 02:18 PM
so sorry


I have aproblem in downloading the pict





The owners of th store ignored the emotions of the muslims all over the world
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S_87
10-11-2006, 09:19 AM
We had really hoped to confirm recent blog reports that a massive Apple Computer store going up in midtown Manhattan, aka "Apple Mecca," will be the company's first retail outlet open 24 hours a day.

But, alas, an Apple spokesman said the company isn't ready to confirm, deny or make any official announcements about the store, so we can only offer our observations, and point to what others have written.

The store--which will reportedly be 25,000 square feet--is located in the underground retail plaza of the General Motors Building on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th streets, according to a February Think Secret report. Our photographer confirmed Friday that construction is well underway on a cube-shaped above-ground entrance to the building.

By all accounts, the store is supposed to open sometime in late May, and might also be the first store to feature an iPod Bar.


Makes sense, the blog adds, "because it shall be open 24 hours a day, seven days a week and hence shall be the place New Yorkers shall take a holy pilgrimage whenever they crave a new iPod Nano at 4:00 am or when they desperately need to have the Mac geeks at the Genius Bar instruct them on how to purge all the gay teen chat transcripts and German fetish porn from their iBooks before their Senate confirmation hearings."

For what it's worth, we did find Apple job postings for the Midtown store, and no mention of 24-7 work.

source



picture


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reminds me of Abraha, and what he later planned to do!


1 Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the Companions of the Elephant?
2 Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray?
3 And He sent against them Flights of Birds,
4 Striking them with stones of baked clay.
5 Then did He make them like an empty field of stalks and straw, (of which the corn) has been eaten up.



i can so imagine it opening. people dancing singing and getting hammered. its starts raining, then some more and they are all swallowed up. every single person who will be there.

may Allah curse them and send down His punishment on them!
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Joe98
10-12-2006, 06:26 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by aman
......may Allah curse them and send down His punishment on them!

I have no idea what you are upset about!
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Muezzin
10-12-2006, 08:23 AM
I really doubt there will be that much trouble. For instance, here in the UK there's 'Mecca Bingo'. Nobody makes a fuss about it though, because if they did, even shouting too loudly might set those old dears' hearts a flutter.

I do agree that the word 'Mecca' has become cheapened by its common and generic usage.
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The Ruler
10-12-2006, 08:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98
I have no idea what you are upset about!
the reason why she is upset is because the name Makkah is that of our holy city,,,and now that people are using it evrywhere just for leisure or to make fun of islam or whatever, it is offensive in a way....dont you think :?

:w:
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Joe98
10-12-2006, 10:07 PM
"Mecca" is used everywhere in the world. It is meant to mean the most popular of what ever it might be:

Cafe
Music club
Car yard
Beach

Anything.


In the West, if anybody is really serious about anything what so ever, people make fun of it.

There are thousands of religious jokes. They are meant for humour not to insult. But there is a line that cannot be crossed.

There are no Muslim jokes. Not one. "Muslim Joke" is a line that cannot be crossed.

This is yet another difference between Islam and the West.
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Muezzin
10-13-2006, 08:11 AM
Joe, I already cited 'Mecca Bingo' and the lack of Muslim outrage at it because there's really no point. Will you please let go of your prejudices?
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IceQueen~
10-13-2006, 08:26 AM
its the fact that they are linking it with 'makkah' as it should be spelt...

and 'pilgrimage'? :rollseyes
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Muezzin
10-13-2006, 08:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by IceQueen~
its the fact that they are linking it with 'makkah' as it should be spelt...

and 'pilgrimage'? :rollseyes
I know.

It's just not worth making a big melodrama about.
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IceQueen~
10-13-2006, 08:28 AM
totally agree with you- I mean after all-that's exactly what they want us to do
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Joe98
10-13-2006, 11:18 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
Will you please let go of your prejudices?
I didn't begin the thread.

It is a story because a Muslim made it a story. The western press did nothing.
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S_87
10-13-2006, 11:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98
I didn't begin the thread.

It is a story because a Muslim made it a story. The western press did nothing.
hey hey hey i did NOT get this from no muslim site....nor have i seen it on a muslim site
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Muezzin
10-13-2006, 02:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98
I didn't begin the thread.

It is a story because a Muslim made it a story. The western press did nothing.
This is what I'm talking about. Where did I suggest that the Western press did anything?

And by 'let go of your prejudices' I mean, look past the fact that I'm Muslim, look at my entire message, and you will see that I actually agree with you that Muslims should not make a big issue out of this particular story.
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
10-13-2006, 02:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98
I didn't begin the thread.

It is a story because a Muslim made it a story. The western press did nothing.
Why dont you take a look at the source

I didnt know CNET was a muslim-owned site ^o)
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learningislam
10-13-2006, 02:23 PM
:salamext:

sis amani........i am real shocked....
is that picture real........i mean.....that black cube in the pic.......is that just a sample......or they have constructed it?

One thing i dont understand is........as Joe said Mecca is used everywhere in the world........so why are they copying the Kabba......i mean making a black, cube shaped structure........just like we have.........?

:wasalamex
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sameer
10-13-2006, 02:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by learningislam
:salamext:

sis amani........i am real shocked....
is that picture real........i mean.....that black cube in the pic.......is that just a sample......or they have constructed it?

One thing i dont understand is........as Joe said Mecca is used everywhere in the world........so why are they copying the Kabba......i mean making a black, cube shaped structure........just like we have.........?

:wasalamex
thats what i am thinking
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Keltoi
10-13-2006, 04:22 PM
I was just on the yahoo news homepage and saw a story about a "punk mecca" being shut down. This word has become fairly widespread as an adjective to describe a place that is considered important or special. I'm sure many people who use the word either 1. have no idea where the word came from or 2. make no personal connection between the "slang" use of the word and the religious use by Muslims. There is obviously no attempt to "insult" or "attack" Muslims by the use of this word, it is just part of the language lexicon now.
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Fishman
10-13-2006, 04:58 PM
:sl:
The building is supposed to be glass. The black bits are just covers put up during the construction process.

For updated pics see:
http://www.apple.com/retail/fifthave.../20061008.html
:w:
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Rou
10-13-2006, 09:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Joe98
I didn't begin the thread.

It is a story because a Muslim made it a story. The western press did nothing.
Well when you call a place mecca make it look like a cube and say people will make pilgrmiges who do you expect to step up?!

whatever im sick of westerners stating how we can take a joke why cant you!???

umm cos we dont all have the same low morals when it comes to our religon!?

we dont all stand there while people take the mick out of that which is dear to us!??

mothers,holy places,family,prophets even god!?

oh ha ha how funny whatever lets all just sell our morals shall we!?

stop asking dumb questions is what i say...

a muslim made an issue well stop making refrences to islam and then you wont have any **** problems!?

how many muslims do you see take offence to superman!?

we dont care what ya do with him know why!??

cos no link to mecca or islam!?

so think before asking next time why muslims make issues out of certain things!
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Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн
10-14-2006, 03:57 AM
Im surprised ur still on this forum Joe! You should be happy considering the retarded comments u present to us! If they weren't attacking or didnt "know" the connection, they must be psychic to know the Kaaba is a cube!
Geeee how interesting...not..
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Fishman
10-14-2006, 10:44 AM
:sl:
The finished building is not supposed to look anything like the Kaaba. It's made of glass. Check the link I posted before.
:w:
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Rou
10-14-2006, 11:34 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
The finished building is not supposed to look anything like the Kaaba. It's made of glass. Check the link I posted before.
:w:
indeed but im sure its no mistake it ended up as a cube and called mecca where pilgrims will come 24/7!???

anyhow its not a direct act so it goes on..
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Fishman
10-14-2006, 02:35 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Rou
indeed but im sure its no mistake it ended up as a cube and called mecca where pilgrims will come 24/7!???

anyhow its not a direct act so it goes on..
:sl:
Apple called it 'Mecca' in it's advert. The word Mecca is part of the English language. There are plenty of worse places that are called Mecca, such as Mecca Bingo, essentially a Casino.

Apple did not refer to a pilgrimage or anything, that was just the article complaining about it.
:w:
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butterfly+
10-14-2006, 04:41 PM
:sl:
the finished product.



its just an entrance to the underground store.
and yes.. mecca is an english language word.. doesnt mean that they are making fun of Muslims and the Kaabah.

meaning of mecca-
(1) any place that many people visit or hope to visit.
(2) A place that is regarded as the center of an activity or interest.
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S_87
10-14-2006, 05:00 PM
:sl:

aah shuks i do apologise.
it seems i read wrong :hiding:
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Woodrow
10-14-2006, 05:10 PM
I believe somebody at CNET had too much time on his hands. Look carefully at that picture and keep in mind we are talking about a 24/7 store in downtown Manhattan. Is there a single person naive enough to believe that a store as small as that block would suffice to handle the potential customer base? Look again at the store being constructed in the background. That is most likly the store. I would suspect that the large black cube is building materials under black plastic wrap for protection.

Looks like a newsreporter saw an opportunity to make an issue from a non-issue.

Like many Arabic words Makkah has worked itself into the English language as Mecca. The uncapitalized mecca simply means a point of interest. Pilgrimage in English does not equate to Hajj. In English it is simply a large group going to the same place for the same reason. Pilgramige unless called a Holy Pilgramige has no religious meaning, in English.
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Fishman
10-14-2006, 05:17 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
I believe somebody at CNET had too much time on his hands. Look carefully at that picture and keep in mind we are talking about a 24/7 store in downtown Manhattan. Is there a single person naive enough to believe that a store as small as that block would suffice to handle the potential customer base? Look again at the store being constructed in the background. That is most likly the store. I would suspect that the large black cube is building materials under black plastic wrap for protection.
:sl:
The store is underground. The black cube is the glass entrance under wraps, look at the link I posted to the official Apple website.
:w:
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Woodrow
10-14-2006, 05:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
The store is underground. The black cube is the glass entrance under wraps, look at the link I posted to the official Apple website.
:w:
LOL everybody is too fast for me. All of them replies weren't there when I wrote the reply. I just got sidetracked and waited too long to hit the reply button.

I am noticing one huge problem, it does have to do with word connontations. there are even big differences between British, American, Canadian and Australian English. Things often have different connontations when spoken in each country.

Here for most Americans mecca has no meaning other than being a place people go to. Pilgrams are thought more in terms of the refugees that came to America in 1620. Pilgramages are any mass group of people going to the same place. You will hear of the settlement of California as being the Westward pilgramage. So for a very large portion of Americans there is very little awareness of Islam and few Americans relate Mecca and Pilgramage as having any religious significance. Although the words Makkah and Hajj would be seen as having religious significance to Muslims.

Many if not most Americans will make no connection between Mecca and Makkah or of Hajj and pilgramage.
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Fishman
10-14-2006, 05:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
So for a very large portion of Americans there is very little awareness of Islam and few Americans relate Mecca and Pilgramage as having any religious significance. Although the words Makkah and Hajj would be seen as having religious significance to Muslims.
:sl:
Wow, just goes to show how ignorant the most powerful country in the world is!. Most people it Britain do associate the word Mecca with Muslims, along with Muhammad, Allah, Mosque and now Jihad, even if they are the only things they know about Islam.
:w:
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Keltoi
10-14-2006, 06:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
Wow, just goes to show how ignorant the most powerful country in the world is!. Most people it Britain do associate the word Mecca with Muslims, along with Muhammad, Allah, Mosque and now Jihad, even if they are the only things they know about Islam.
:w:
The word "mecca" in the American English lexicon has no religious significance. It is simply a slang type word to refer to a place people tend to gather. A "mecca" for hamburgers, a "mecca" for skateboarding, etc. In my opinion this is getting a little silly, surely there are more important things to worry about than what Apple computer decides to call a store.
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Pk_#2
10-14-2006, 06:13 PM
AsalamuAlaykum,

yeah...first the name, now the structure, :cry:

Dispicable (is dat how u spell it?) indeed!

Tc, Allah (Swt) will punish the wrongdoers.
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Woodrow
10-14-2006, 06:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
Wow, just goes to show how ignorant the most powerful country in the world is!. Most people it Britain do associate the word Mecca with Muslims, along with Muhammad, Allah, Mosque and now Jihad, even if they are the only things they know about Islam.
:w:
I would say most Americans will associate Muhammad, Allah(swt), Mosque and Jihad with Islam. Although now the Name Muhammad is taking on the generic meaning of being any Arab male. I would say that in one or 2 generations Muhammad will be a noun in general usage and refer to any male. Mecca and pilgramage are very much in common use. Pilgramage for a much longer period of time.

Our concept of Pilgram comes in terms of the Thanksgiving holiday and the landing of the Pilgrams at Plymouth Rock in 1620.

Pilgramage when used in a religious sense will often have different meanings for Catholics and Protestants. A Catholic will think of it in terms of a trip to either Lourdes or the Vatican and Protestants tend to think of it as a church sponsored trip to the ares of significance to Jesus(as)
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Rou
10-14-2006, 06:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fishman
:sl:
Apple called it 'Mecca' in it's advert. The word Mecca is part of the English language. There are plenty of worse places that are called Mecca, such as Mecca Bingo, essentially a Casino.

Apple did not refer to a pilgrimage or anything, that was just the article complaining about it.
:w:
As i said its not a direct insult however using mecca in such ways in this day and age should obviously be looked at with caution but again no biggie as would be....
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Woodrow
10-14-2006, 10:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Rou
As i said its not a direct insult however using mecca in such ways in this day and age should obviously be looked at with caution but again no biggie as would be....
It is quite possible the author of the CNET article did intend it as some type of dig at Islam. As It is obvious he was playing on the appearance of the glass structure while it was covered in Black. However, it is a sarcasim, dig or whatever that would be missed and not understood by most Americans.
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Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн
10-14-2006, 11:49 PM
ok whatever i dunno then. I dunno what is going on in the minds of people. No one does!
Anyways, Allah knows best!
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جوري
01-13-2008, 03:00 AM





المختصر أنهم أقامو مبني على شكل الكعبة وأسموه (( تفاحة مكة )) شركة (( أبل )) و يضم بارات ......
و الباقي للمترجم . الخبر كما وردنا مع الرابط و الصور أرجو منك نقل الخبر لأخذ رأي العلماء و الموقف الواجب إتخاذه و يبدو ان الحرب على ديننا قائمه على قدم و ساق كما هو مشروع تفاحة مكة و هذا التعبير ورد ضمن الخبر أن البناء على قدم و ساق فى المشروع و يتوقع إفتتاحه أواخر الشهر هذا ؟؟

ارجو نشر الموضوع لعل و عسى ؟؟؟ نعمل شئ؟؟

NY Apple 'Mecca' rumored to be open 24-7

April 15, 2006 11:27 AM PDT We had really hoped to confirm recent blog reports that a massive Apple Computer store going up in midtown Manhattan, aka "Apple Mecca," will be the company's first retail outlet open 24 hours a day.

But, alas, an Apple spokesman said the company isn't ready to confirm, deny or make any official announcements about the store, so we can only offer our observations, and point to what others have written The store--which will reportedly be 25,000 square feet--is lo***ed in the underground retail plaza of the General Motors Building on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th streets, according to a February Think Secret report. Our photographer confirmed Friday that construction is well underway on a cube-shaped above-ground entrance to the building.

By all accounts, the store is supposed to open sometime in late May, and might also be the first store to feature an iPod Bar.

We were particularly impressed with the San Francisco Chronicle Culture Blog's observation that the "Mecca's" above-ground entrance "bears an uncanny resemblance to the big black Ka'bah (AKA: The House O' Abraham) to whence all Islamic pilgrims take their grueling mandatory hajj."

Makes sense, the blog adds, "because it shall be open 24 hours a day, seven days a week and hence shall be the place New Yorkers shall take a holy pilgrimage whenever they crave a new iPod Nano at 4:00 am or when they desperately need to have the Mac geeks at the Genius Bar instruct them on how to purge all the gay teen chat transcripts and German fetish porn from their iBooks before their Senate confirmation hearings."

For what it's worth, we did find Apple job postings for the Midtown store, and no mention of 24-7 work.

Posted by Michelle Meyers

و هذا الرابط و أتمنى التثبيت ليطلع عليه اكبر عدد لنشره

[ فقط المشتركين فى المنتدى يمكنهم رؤية الرابط . اضعط هنا للتسجيل ... ]

ومعنى الكلام اللي فوق ان المبنى المكعب هذا راح يفتتح في اواخر شهر مايو وحيكون اربعه وعشرين ساعه مقره في منهاتن قريب من ناطحات السحاب اللي اندمرت ، وراح يتوقع مبيعات هائلة له لمنتجات شركة أبل العالمية

وتم تسمية المبنى تفاحة مكة لأنه يشبه للكعبة المشرفة في مكة المكرمة التي يحج اليها كل المسلمين في العالم وكاتبين مساحة المبنى وموقعه

وحسبنا الله وعنم الوكيل


مع اطيب التحيات من اخيكم
http://vb.x333x.com/t55827.html

what do you guys think of this?

:w:
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north_malaysian
01-13-2008, 07:56 AM
I wonder if they have to do the "tawwaf" there?^o)
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shible
01-13-2008, 08:17 AM
But this is something that was hitting many petitions, Bolgs, Chain emails and Forums Six months Ago.

And i have seen this in mail and as a hyperlinked news on many Forms.


Jus imagine One thing Brother. U can do anything to make it Real.

But Truely our Creator Allah has command Over each and Every thing and if he wishes to destroy it.

He won't need any army to take it down. but the Elements of Nature itself will be more than enough
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Fishman
01-13-2008, 08:44 AM
:sl:
The building is actually glass. They took down those black panels as they were only meant to hide the work being done when the building was being constructed. Now it looks nothing like the Kaaba...
:w:
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ricardo_sousa
01-13-2008, 10:57 AM
Genius marketing... And yes this news is very old....
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01-13-2008, 01:10 PM
:salamext:

Blah, another 'try' of the unbelivers. 'tis in vain :-\
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Muezzin
01-13-2008, 04:36 PM
Banksy should spray paint it red with white dots. Monopoly: New York!

Dibs on the car.
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Whatsthepoint
01-13-2008, 05:37 PM
I like the idea - Mecca, Kaba and all that, it does make sense. Anyway, if the building is in fact glass, there's no point in arguing.
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Muezzin
01-13-2008, 05:43 PM
Are there any New 'Yawkahs' who can confirm or deny whether this place is in fact made of glass, is in fact called 'Mecca', and is in fact not one half of a gigantic pair of dice?
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Woodrow
01-13-2008, 05:49 PM
this is the completed Building.


Source: http://mac.sillydog.org/archives/001293.php


How much of the black covering was simply an ignorant coincidence and how much was deliberate I do not know. If any was done as mockery during the construction phase, let that be upon those who mocked, if it was accidental coincidence, forgive them for their error.

But, it is all in the past now and it is best to let it simply be remembered as poor planning.
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'Abd al-Baari
01-13-2008, 05:51 PM
:sl:

JazakAllah Khair Uncle Woodrwow

If anyones interested you can view it here in 360degree http://www.panoramas.dk/newspanos/f20-apple-store.html
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Whatsthepoint
01-13-2008, 05:52 PM
Would muslims be offended if Apple built an actuall replica of the Kaba?
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Woodrow
01-13-2008, 05:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Would muslims be offended if Apple built an actuall replica of the Kaba?
That would depend on the reason and the usage. As an advertising gimmick I personally would be highly offended. As a teaching aid to give understanding of Islam I would be highly pleased.
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Whatsthepoint
01-13-2008, 05:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
That would depend on the reason and the usage. As an advertising gimmick I personally would be highly offended. As a teaching aid to give understanding of Islam I would be highly pleased.
What would you be willing to do to prevent the construction?
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Woodrow
01-13-2008, 06:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
What would you be willing to do to prevent the construction?
1. Write to the president of the company and explain why I am offended

2. Gather a petition signed by people besides myself and send that to the president of the company.

3. boycott the product produced by the company if they persist in insulting my beliefs and urge others to do the same.
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Whatsthepoint
01-13-2008, 06:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
1. Write to the president of the company and explain why I am offended

2. Gather a petition signed by people besides myself and send that to the president of the company.

3. boycott the product produced by the company if they persist in insulting my beliefs and urge others to do the same.
Good, I never really though a person like you would go about shouting "Death to Apple!"

How do you feel when Mecca is used in contexts other than the islamic holy city, such as a certain something is a mecca for a certain someone.
How do you feel about Apple nameing the building "Apple Mecca"?
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Woodrow
01-13-2008, 06:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Whatsthepoint
Good, I never really though a person like you would go about shouting "Death to Apple!"

How do you feel when Mecca is used in contexts other than the islamic holy city, such as a certain something is a mecca for a certain someone.
How do you feel about Apple nameing the building "Apple Mecca"?
This I have mixed feelings about. I am aware that Mecca has become an American English word and in English no longer refers to the Holy city of Mak'Kah.

mecca in English simply means a focal point of attraction. Those of us who are Muslim, need to use the proper name of Mak'kah and understand that the English word mecca does not apply to Mak'kah
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NoName55
01-13-2008, 06:51 PM
I suspect someone is trying to bait people in to an outburst of some sort but (may Allah bless him) Br. Woodrow is not easy to trick!!

back on topic:

word mecca, in English, has become a description for any place to which a large number of people are attracted. i.e so and so resort is mecca for holidaymakers etc. in Britain there is a bingo chain called mecca and also (I think) there is or was a betting shop chain in existence for decades.

Our holy city is named Makkah, whereas their dens of inequity are named mecca
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ricardo_sousa
01-13-2008, 07:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by NoName55
word mecca, in English, has become a description for any place to which a large number of people are attracted. i.e so and so resort is mecca for holidaymakers etc. in Britain there is a bingo chain called mecca and also (I think) there is or was a betting shop chain in existence for decades.
not only in English.... In my country, it is a normal expression also to say ""city x" is like Mecca"... meaning what you say.

and another normal expression is "if Muhammad don´t go to the mountain, the mountain come to the Muhammad"... normal to express "impossible situations", that people can overthrown...
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Muezzin
01-13-2008, 07:33 PM
In the UK, there's Mecca Bingo. To the immense displeasure of the BNP and likeminded far right xenophobes, no Muslims have rioted about it. No Muslims have even said anything about it publically, it seems. So fear not! Your grandmothers are safe, o close-minded chavs!
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sur
01-13-2008, 07:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia
resemblance to the big black Ka'bah (AKA: The House O' Abraham) to whence all Islamic pilgrims take their grueling mandatory hajj."
Kabbah was NOT house of Abraham.

There is a traditionthat Kabbah is situated directly under Bait-ul-Mamoor(palace of Allah beyond 7h sky)
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جوري
01-13-2008, 08:05 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sur
Kabbah was NOT house of Abraham.

There is a traditionthat Kabbah is situated directly under Bait-ul-Mamoor(palace of Allah beyond 7h sky)
You realize of course that I am not the one you should direct this comment to but the one who wrote the actual article?

Jazaka Allah khyran

:w:
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qassy!
01-14-2008, 01:04 AM
I dont see why people are offended? Its a glass cube

Its only black when it was constructed, but Apple always use black when they construct new stores,


Dont make a big deal.





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Muezzin
01-15-2008, 10:41 AM
It reminds me of those cursed Zelda giant ice cube puzzles.

Or a Fox Glacier Mint.

But seriously, can you imagine having to clean that thing?
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Amat Allah
01-15-2008, 03:50 PM
It does not bothering me at all.

I agree with my brother qassy

I dont see why people are offended? Its a glass cube.

Jazakom Allah Al janah
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truemuslim
01-15-2008, 03:52 PM
yah i toldu people bout this in my other thread 'against rasulallah'
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Ghira
01-16-2008, 11:52 AM
That is horrible...All Muslim must Boycott apple....Making a mockery of religion and symbols of Islam.
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Fishman
01-16-2008, 08:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ghira
That is horrible...All Muslim must Boycott apple....Making a mockery of religion and symbols of Islam.
:sl:
Dude, did you even read the whole thread before you posted? :D
:w:
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chacha_jalebi
01-16-2008, 09:02 PM
issue solved i believe :mmokay:

:threadclo

if anyone wants it open then erm byee :D
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