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babagrr
05-23-2006, 06:54 AM
by Cicero, Roman writer and philosopher (106-43 B.C.)

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1.*The delusion that personal gain is made by crushing others.

2.*The tendency to worry about things that cannot be changed or corrected.

3.*Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it.

4.*Refusing to set aside trivial preferences.

5.*Neglecting development and refinement of the mind, and not acquiring the habit of reading and studying.

6.*Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do.
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*charisma*
05-23-2006, 06:58 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

Mashallah, barak allah feek

just a thought though:

2.*The tendency to worry about things that cannot be changed or corrected.
3.*Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it.
wouldn't those contradict eachother to some extent??

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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babagrr
05-23-2006, 07:23 AM
Assallaamu alykum

To Charisma:

I'd read:
2.*The tendency to worry about things that cannot be changed or corrected.

As perhaps refering to things that already happened.
Mistakes that we have made or opertunities that we have missed.
We could obviously ask Allah's guidence on such matters.

And:
3.*Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it.
Would perhaps be about something that we are giving up on without even trying hard enough.

Look at many people that have difficult tasks ahead of them or perhaps struggling for their freedom or survival.

There were people in the apartheid era, who felt that resistance against the oppressive government was useless. It took many decades before freedom was realized.

Take care
Assallaamu alykum
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Tilmeez
05-23-2006, 07:43 AM
Nice read, Jazakallah for sharing :)
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*charisma*
05-23-2006, 07:59 AM
Assalamu Alaikum

As perhaps refering to things that already happened.
Mistakes that we have made or opertunities that we have missed.
We could obviously ask Allah's guidence on such matters.
yup, that's why i said to an extent.

Would perhaps be about something that we are giving up on without even trying hard enough.
yea, and in correlation with the above statement i meant that maybe we worry about things that don't have a tendacy to change or be corrected because we think it is possible, however if we thought something was impossible then how are we sure something doesn't have a tendency to be changed or corrected??

lol sorry, imma shut up now, wasn't opening it to a debate or anything, it was just a thought that came to mind.

Barak allahu feek for you view and reply :)

fi aman Allah
w'salaam
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babagrr
05-23-2006, 09:08 AM
Assallaamu alykum

To Charisma

Don't worry.
I'm not perceiving it as a debate.
Those are reasonable questions and questioning isn't always a bad thing.Wassallaam
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