is it permissable to have food, where alcohol are sold?

[Helena]

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another questions, kinda puzzled...needs answering inshalah....

is it permissible to have lunch in a restuatant where alcohol is being sold? even thou the food is halaal, some owners are muslim...is it allowed in islam? For instance places like zeera, tasfirin and many bricklane resturants in london. Only place i feel safe is barakah besides east london mosque and and pfc's....

i kinda know the answers....but need more views from evryone inshalah!

:w: :)

[Kittygyal]

salam.
well from my point of view it's ok as long as your drinking it thats all but then again my opinion!
w.salam

[Helena]

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shukran sis......

but yesteday i was watching a programme on islam channel runned by a sheikh...

well he said.....'whoever believes in Allah(swt) and his messanger will not sit in a resturant where alscohol are being sold, ur sins will be same.....then will be cursed... thats wot i belive...

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[Kittygyal]

salam.
well sis in every Resturant there's Alcohol

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[Helena]

salam.
well sis in every Resturant there's Alcohol

:sl:

u are absoltely rite sis....but i still dont undertand...muslims owners are selling alcohol...astagfirulla...its simply not allowed...whose needs are they meeting..non muslims? or are increasing their sins? wot will they respond to their lord on the day of judgement...money is not solution to every problem....its the a major problem? who gives u the money? who can take it back?

there are many in my areas, selling alcohol..one only who dsnt...barakah..quiet happy wid that!

:w:

[Muezzin]

salam.
well sis in every Resturant there's Alcohol

Not necessarily. There are restaurants which do not serve alcohol.

As for the question, I'm not sure so I won't attempt to answer in case I confuse matters further.

[Kittygyal]

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u are absoltely rite sis....but i still dont undertand...muslims owners are selling alcohol...astagfirulla...its simply not allowed...whose needs are they meeting..non muslims? or are increasing their sins? wot will they respond to their lord on the day of judgement...money is not solution to every problem....its the a major problem? who gives u the money? who can take it back?

there are many in my areas, selling alcohol..one only who dsnt...barakah..quiet happy wid that!

:w:

salam.
well sis theres not only asians who go a Restuarant christains go to so thats why they sell them.
bro Mueezzin where i live in most Restuarants they sell Alcohol depends where you live init!

[Helena]

Not necessarily. There are restaurants which do not serve alcohol.

As for the question, I'm not sure so I won't attempt to answer in case I confuse matters further.

:sl:

muezzin...u can give ur views inshalah...av given mine......i need more evidence inshalah.... From the quran and hadith inshalah...am sure u wudnt confuse the situation..if u do...i'll tell ya!

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[Helena]

salam.
well sis theres not only asians who go a Restuarant christains go to so thats why they sell them.
bro Mueezzin where i live in most Restuarants they sell Alcohol depends where you live init!

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erm sis..i think ur confused...am talking about muslims resturants or in other wrds asain resturants who serve alcohol in london as i stated some names in my first post...am not talking about christians resturant...which i do not attend...

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[Kittygyal]

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erm sis..i think ur confused...am talking about muslims resturants or in other wrds asain resturants who serve alcohol in london as i stated some names in my first post...am not talking about christians resturant...which i do not attend...

:w:

salam.
sorry for the confusion i mean sis an asian Restuarant most christains may go so thats why they sell them, but then again hmm..why do they? cause i thought muslims can't touch Alcohol :rollseyes hmm...well they will find out what they get when they stand towards there lord and will be questioned. people just do it for money but then again money doesn't come first your creator comes first like you would say, ''money is gold but fearing your lord is gold''
w.salam

[Helena]

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true sis...very complicated situations....i think....

wot about ppl working in tesco or sainsbury that contains alcohol?

Or those who shop in tesco or sainsbury where alcohol are being sold....am jus confused...wallahi.....even i shop....

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[Kittygyal]

:sl:

true sis...very complicated situations....i think....

wot about ppl working in tesco or sainsbury that contains alcohol?

Or those who shop in tesco or sainsbury where alcohol are being sold....am jus confused...wallahi.....even i shop....

:w:

salam.
now sis in Tesco's the manager is an Christain not an Asian :rollseyes but then again sis everywhere you go there Alcohol like in Newsagents or lil shops nearby they have Alcohol too, but maybe they sell them to make it fair for Christains cause if there wasn't Alcohol in shops/Supermarkets then not many Christains will come also god knows best:uhwhat
w.salam

[Helena]

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jazkas for help sis.....i truly know wt u mean....

am jus questionning myself regarding this situation......wheres muezzin? and other members from LI need more support inshalah!

:w:

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

jazkas for help sis.....i truly know wt u mean....

am jus questionning myself regarding this situation......wheres muezzin? and other members from LI need more support inshalah!

:w:

salam.
no worries sis all the best :)
w.salam

[Z]

is it ok to enter a pub or a bar aswell?

[Kittygyal]

salam.
well in the first place why do you wana go in a pub or a bar?

[Z]

it's the only place where food is served within a 30 minute walking distance. and a place where friends only like to meet.

[Kittygyal]

salam.
well maybe you should not go there and meet in a house :rollseyes
w.salam

[Helena]

is it ok to enter a pub or a bar aswell?

:sl:

by entering a pub or a bar jus to have food which is 30 minutes walk.....its jus the same amount of sin you will acquire through whose drinking it or selling it! its not appropriate in islam!

:w:

[Mawaddah]

Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullah

Sis here I have a fatwa for you concerning this :

Question :


Is it permissible to eat at restaurants where alcohol is served?.

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

If it is possible to eat elsewhere then it is not permissible to eat at these places, because that involves cooperating with them in sin and transgression, which Allaah has forbidden. If it is not possible to eat elsewhere then it is permissible to eat there in cases of necessity, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship”

[al-Hajj 22:78]

“Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope”

[al-Baqarah 2:286]

But he should not eat or drink anything except that which Allaah has permitted.



Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 22/296-297. (www.islam-qa.com)

[Helena]

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jazaks sis...finally someone found fatwa to support this situation....shukran sis!

:w:

[SirZubair]

Had this discussion with an elder member of my family 3 days ago,he got really worked up over my view.

But still,im sticking to my opinion.

As far as i am concerned,There is nothing wrong with eating where alcohol is served,as long as the Food is halal.

And no,i dont mean the Pub,..yes,the peanuts/pretzels are halal,but the Business revolves around Alcohol.

At resturants,the business revolves around Food,but inorder to attract non-muslim customers as well,they have to do something.

Most of the Halal places i know of (in nz) dont sell Alcohol,they have a B.Y.O option though,which is fair enough.

So if i a customer wants to drink,they can bring their own booze.If they wish to be sober,then good on them.

But yeah,like i said,No,i dont see anything wrong with eating somewhere where alcohol is served,as long as you're not drinking it.

The elder said to me "You can eat there if you want to!that goes to show your level of taqwa!"

Well,come to think of it,if that is the case,then we shouldnt even buy bread from cornershops/supermarkets that sell wine or pornographic magazines.

Wa'salaam

-Zubair

[Sister_6038]

ok so what about restaraunts which arent muslim owned? is it wrong of me to eat there? these are NOT rhetorical questions

[SirZubair]

ok so what about restaraunts which arent muslim owned? is it wrong of me to eat there? these are NOT rhetorical questions

..is the food served there Halal?

If so,then i dont see why not.

Its just that,i dont know many non-muslims that serve Halal food,..Not in NewZealand anyway.

Wa'salaam

[afriend]

Q1. A= It is not a good idea toeat in a place where alcohol is being served.

It's a bit like the hadeeth about keeping good company:

A person who has good friends is like the person who enters a musk shop, he wil either buy some nice musk, or he will get a nice smell as he comes out of the shop.

But a person who has bad friends, it is like the blacksmith, he will either be in danger of getting his clothes burnt, or he will pick up a bad smell from the smoke etc.

In the same way, By eating in a place where alcohol is being served, you will either get put off becuase of the drunkards' behaviour when they have gone over the top, or, leave with the smells from the alcohol.....

My 2 cents, I've specified a hadeeth too to back it up, so that you may find it more easier to accept.

[Sister_6038]

bro not necessarily halal but with vegetarian options....

[SirZubair]

If you're having a meal at a pub (can you eat at a pub? :? ),yeah,there will be Drunks walking about you,..

...but at resturants,there are hardly ever any drunkards. :)

bro not necessarily halal but with vegetarian options....

In that case,i dont see anything wrong with it.

But once again,that is my opinion. :)

[Sister_6038]

ok fair enough....jazakhallah khair

[afriend]

Take McDonalds for example, they have 'vegetarian' options too, but sometimes, they have been found to be cramming in Cow fat/ pig fat etc. at times.

Atleast with a Muslim owner, you'll atleast have the satisfaction that they wont be putting anything dodgy into their food, unless they are dodgy of course.

[Sister_6038]

ok right but im talking about places where the food is all fresh....i mean its not often you find halal greek eateries....

[SirZubair]

But seeing as i am a man,i dont eat vegetarian meals at resturants ;D

....i love my Nandos too much .. :statisfie

[Sister_6038]

But seeing as i am a man,i dont eat vegetarian meals at resturants ;D

....i love my Nandos too much .. :statisfie

nandos....make very very nice salad!

[afriend]

But seeing as i am a man,i dont eat vegetarian meals at resturants ;D

....i love my Nandos too much .. :statisfie

LOL

what's that supposed to mean :p (4 the bro, keep your gazes down sisters)

Yeah, Nandos is just....:wub: I haven't been in a very long time(I'm missin my spicy rice and chicken burger, and the quarter chicken...:()

But NANDOS is another topic in itself :(

[Sister_6038]

:p (4 the bro, keep your gazes down sisters)

a nice dig not!!

Yeah, Nandos is just....:wub: I haven't been in a very long time.

it is slightly overrated me thinks...i love it and all but its not like all that homecooking is the best!!

But NANDOS is another topic in itself :(

yeh...me knows

[SirZubair]

Atleast with a Muslim owner, you'll atleast have the satisfaction that they wont be putting anything dodgy into their food, unless they are dodgy of course.

Im glad you said "unless they are dodgy ofcourse",otherwise i was going to give you a lecture ;D

I know a guy who opened a takeaway here in Auckland,he named it ZAMZAM.

Everyone thought "Masha'allah!"

His business was going very well,but then someone found out that he was using Haram cheese and other haram dairy products in the food.

The leaders of the community confronted him,..

..His response?

"So?"

His business wasnt open for much longer.

Kheir,better late than never.

Wa'salaam.

[SirZubair]

Yeah, Nandos is just....:wub: I haven't been in a very long time(I'm missin my spicy rice and chicken burger, and the quarter chicken...:()

Me and my cousin (shafraz) used to order EXTRA HOT Chicken,eat all the meat,..then get straws and Suck all the hot sause from the plate...

..yep,we were nutcases.

We still are. ;D

Alrite,im going off topic,about time i retire from this thread.

Wa'salaam.

[afriend]

LOLLL!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, there are MANY 'dodgy' So called 'Muslim' Restaurant owners, also check for the HMC certificate on ANY Restaurant.(UK as far as I know)