Gaf-G: Has anyone tasted those strawberry flava cornettos? My brav got sum 2dayz bak.
aamirsaab: Yeah - we got some in our college in the cafeteria. They sick init homie! :p
Gaf-G: 2ryt man. Bare respekt 2 dem cornettoz.
Muezzin: That's right brotha from anotha motha :p
aamirsaab: Nah trust me.. we're related. :rollseyes
Ahmed: Brother zAk, why you gone so quiet?
Far7an: Oh - he's just sorting some thread out in the marriage section.
Ahmed: What section is he checking out?
Far7an: Something like "Would you marry a woman with a fist length beard?"
Ahmed: Oh.. I see. How much replies has it got?
Far7an: Three hundred and twelve (312) .. it just got created 10mins ago.
Ahmed: Oh.. that's normal. But women are allowed to trim it right?
Far7an: Allaahu ta'aala a'lam. (Allaah Almighty knows best.) Wait up.
The scholars on IslamQ&A say:
unless a woman develops a beard or moustache, in which case it is not haraam to remove it, rather that is mustahabb in our view.
Ahmed: jazak Allaahu khayr (may Allaah reward you.)
limitless: So.. erm.. What do you guys think of marriage?
Ahmed: Ask me that in 15years :p
G-HaD-Ta-Raaza: Why not try to gain shahadah instead.. I'd rather be with a hoor..hm...
limitless: What's that?
chacha_jalebi: How old r ya!? :D
limitless: About your age.. why? :?
chacha_jalebi: kk safe :D dey dis speshal creation in jannah man.. Any1 got any hadith on em?
Alpha Dude: c'mon bro.. hooris are probably the first islamic thing every guy ever heard. ;D
mujahadeen1: true..
jzcasejz: Yup. i agree :p
Hei Gou: That's why i became muslim..
H4RUN: what?
Ansar al Adl: :eek: You what!?
*Hei Gou leaves the chat*
Muhammad: hm.. is he serious?
Khaldun: Let's leave that upto Allaah subhanahu wa ta'aala.
limitless: Yep - but can someone explain then. What are hooris?
chacha_jalebi: Wait up! I found sumtin:
“Therein (Gardens) will be Khairaatun‑Hisaan [fair (wives) good and beautiful]”
[al-Rahmaan 55:70]
“And (there will be) Hoor (fair females) with wide lovely eyes (as wives for Al-Muttaqoon – the pious).
23. Like unto preserved pearls”
[al-Waaqi’ah 56:22, 23]
It was narrated that Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If a woman from among the people of Paradise were to look out over the earth, she would illuminate everything that is in between them, and would fill everything that is in between them with fragrance. And the scarf on her head is better than this world and everything in it.”
lolwateva: masha'Allaah, u just want to get to paradise right now init? :)
mujahadeen1: yeah.. the ones who fight in the way of Allaah - if they're killed - their souls enter into the hearts of green birds and they can go in jannah wherever they want.
In a Hadith Qudsi number 27:
On the authority of Masruq, who said:
We asked Abdullah (i.e. Ibn Masud) about this verse: And do not regard those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead, rather are they alive with their Lord, being provided for (Quran Chapter 3 Verse 169).
He said: We asked about that and the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
Their souls are in the insides of green birds having lanterns suspended from the Throne, roaming freely in Paradise where they please, then taking shelter in those lanterns. So their Lord cast a glance at them (1) and said: Do you wish for anything? They said: What shall we wish for when we roam freely in Paradise where we please? And thus did He do to them three times. When they say that they would not be spared from being asked [again], they said: O Lord, we would like for You to put back our souls into our bodies so that we might fight for Your sake once again. And when He saw that they were not in need of anything they were let be.
(1) i.e. at those who had been killed in the cause of Allah.
It was related by Muslim (also by at-Tirmidhi, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah).
chacha_jalebi: dats well kewl init! :D :D
G-HaD-Ta-Raaza: Yeah man.. a one way direct ticket to jannah.. what else could you wish for?
chacha_jalebi: mmm... :p
Ahmed: hm... :statisfie
Mazed: We jus gota work hard to strive for it and be sincere.. shaytans oath was that he would lead all of the children of Aadam (peace be upon him) to the hellfire - except the sincere ones.
So we gota be serious and put our heart 100% into islam.. If we hear a hadith or a commandment from Allaah - we don't delay in following it - but we follow it there and there!
That's what the sahabah did.. And thats why they were successful. We shouldn't be like the Jews and Christians - who chose parts of the book they desired and left the parts they never liked. If we do that - we might end up in hell too, so we shouldn't belittle a sin or even a good deed insha'Allaah.
The Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) said:
"By the One whom there is no other God, one of you does the actions of Paradise until there is just a handspan between him and Paradise and then the book [preordainment] overtakes him and he does the actions of the people of Hell and he enters into it" (Recorded by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)
If anyone thinks they can do sin and be in hell for only a little while.. try putting your finger into the fire. See how long you can keep it there.. remember that the fire of hell is 70 times hotter, it is longer lasting and it's not just your finger that's in the fire - but your whole body.
AnonymousGENDER: The thing is that the beard is kind of tough to keep in the society like today. Anyone agree?
Like women hate it, its tough to get a job if got one.. and all that.
lolwateva: Yeah man.. But we gota realise that we doing it to please Allaah azawajal, then Allaah will find a way out for you insha'Allaah.
..for those who fear Allah, He (ever) prepares a way out,
And He provides for him from (sources) he never could imagine. And if any one puts his trust in Allah, sufficient is (Allah) for him. For Allah will surely accomplish his purpose: verily, for all things has Allah appointed a due proportion. (Qur'aan 65: 02-03)
Plus - if we keep shaving it - every moment without it we're sinning. So just think about a person who might come on the day of judgement with a scale with loads of sins that they forgot about.
Also, how do we know that the Messenger of Alaah (eace be upon him) won't turn away from us -
the same way he turned away from the two kafir persians who had shaved their beards and kept big moustaches? When he (peace be upon him) said; Allaah ordered me to trim the moustache and let the beard grow.
limitless: But what about if you can't find a wife, because she doesn't find the beard attractive?
seeker_of_ilm: Then stay patient and have tawaqul (put your trust) in Allaah. What's the point of marrying a woman if she doesn't prefer the sunnah of Allah's messengers over others? All 124,000 of them prophets had a beard and trimmed the moustache because that is part of our
fitrah.
Allaah azawajal says in the Qur'aan:
"Say, [O Muhammad, to mankind]: If you love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you." For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Al'Imran 3/31)
"So long as they are true to you, be true to them; Indeed, Allah loves those who keep their duty." (at-Tawbah 9/7)
"And do good; Indeed, Allah loves those who do good." (al-Baqarah 2/195)
AnonymousGENDER: My parents don't allow it though? :(
Ansar al Adl:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no obedience to any created being if it involves disobedience towards the Creator.”
Mazed: Remember that Rasulullah (sal Allaahu alayhi waSalam) said:
A woman is married for four reasons, for her religion, her property, her status, her beauty, so you should choose one with religion. May you prosper. (Sahih Muslim)
So the pious girl will prefer the beard, or atleast won't discourage her husband from having it.
So we shouldn't obey our wife or anyone, if it's going to disobey Allaah - because that will lead to that person becoming your critic later on in life anyway.
limitless: I wish all women liked the beard.. :(
chacha_jalebi: Get da pious one den init! :D :D Go 2 the majid or some kind of islamic matrimonial thingy. If you be intereted in someone - you could ask your
mahram sister or mom to go meet the girl to ask, or you could go upto the gurls wali (guardian) and ask him :p
limitless: lol I wna get married real bad now..
Far7an: Trust me, it takes alot of commitment and hard work.
It is the mens right "that you provide for their food and clothing generously" and it is the womans right "not let anyone whom you dislike in the house, walking upon your floor." (Related by Ibn Majah and Tirmidhi who declared it Hasan Saheeh)
You have to live with them kindly too: Allaah azawajal says;
Live with them on a footing of kindness and equity (4:19)
Ansar al Adl:
It is reported that a man came to 'Umar ibn Al-Khattab raa to complain about his wife's ill-temper. While he was waiting for 'Umar to come out of his house, he heard 'Umar's wife scolding him and 'Umar quietly listening to her, and not answering her back. The man turned around and started walking away, muttering to himself: "If that is the case with 'Umar, the leader of the believers, who is famous for his uprighteness and toughness, then what about poor me?!" At that moment, 'Umar came out of his house and saw the man walking away. He called him and said, "What is it you want of me, O man?" The man replied: "O leader of the believers, I came to complain to you about my wife's bad-temper and how she nags me. Then I heard your wife doing the same to you, so I turned around, muttering to myself, 'If that is the situation of the leader of the believers, then what about me?'" 'Umar replied, "O my brother, I bear with her because of her rights over me. She cooks my food, bakes my bread, washes my clothes, breast-feeds my child...and yet none of these are her duty;* and then she is a comfort to my heart and keeps me away from forbidden deeds. Consequently, I bear with her." The man said, "It is the same with me, O leader of the believers." 'Umar said: "Then, O my brother, be patient with her, indeed this life is short.
(Adh-Dhahabi, Al-Kabâ'ir 194)
Dr. M. Moinuddin Siddiqui, who has translated Al-Kabâ'ir into english, includes the following footnote in the place I have marked above with an asterisk[*]:
According to the Shari'ah, a Muslim wife has no obligation to do all this; rather, it is the husband's obligation to take care of it [either himself or] by hiring a servant (or even, in the case of breast-feeding, a wet-nurse). Therefore, if a woman does this, it is out of good-will and compliance on her part, not because it is obligatory on her, and consequently it is a cause for appreciation and helpfulness on the part of her husband. (Translator)
limitless: You think its better to get married to a younger girl or older?
_salam_: Islamically - it doesn't really matter. But socially, you're better off with someone abit younger or same age. Because girls feel insecure sometimes.. they think you'll run off with some next gurl once she's gone older :p
AnonymousGENDER: ;) ;D
jzcasejz: lol nah man - we gota fear Allah in stuf lyk dat. ratha be patient for hoor-ul-'ayn init ;)
Brother_Mujahid - Yeah man..
Once, there was a man who went outside and in the town center he touched a woman in a haraam way. Later in the day, he returned home and his wife told him that another man outside had touched his wife unlawfully too. The guy learnt a strong lesson from this and said subhan Allaah, that i never did anything more to that woman, or else that other man would do the same to my wife.
So whenever you do anything, just think twice before doing it and ask yourself - what i'm doing, is it lawful? And if it is sinful, your wife may be doing it too - and sins are what lead to a person distancing from Allaah Almighty, which then leads a persons life to become corrupt, which affects the other spouse too, then it causes the love to distance, which makes shaytan take advantage of you and the marriage breaks up.
Some of the famous scholars of islam would even say that if they commited more sins, their own animals i.e. their camels would act different and disobey the owner etc. And because salaah (prayer) is the most important pillar of islam, if we don't focus on that - then the rest of our faith and life is most likely to get destroyed.
mahdisoldier: Woah! :eek: that's krazy man! That means we shouldn't try doing something that isn't right with any other woman who isn't our mahram.
Otherwise - some guy might try to do that wth our women too init?!
Mazed: yeah man.. might aswell fear Allaah, cuz its a major sin.. or else we the fuel for hell..
Khaldun: You guys ever read the meaning of surah al baqarah? (2nd chapter in the Qur'aan)
Ahmed: Yeah - kinda. Why?
Khaldun: Has anyone read the verses on divorce?
Far7an: Why u talking about that man? Don't wna get there insha'Allaah.
Khaldun: Yeah.. it's just that some scholars say that theres a wisdom in those verses.
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Realise that when Allaah Almighty mentions the verses on divorce in the Qur'an, right in the middle of all them verses - Allaah Almighty says:
There is no blame on you if ye divorce women before consummation or the fixation of their dower; but bestow on them (A suitable gift), the wealthy according to his means, and the poor according to his means;- A gift of a reasonable amount is due from those who wish to do the right thing.(2:237)
And if ye divorce them before consummation, but after the fixation of a dower for them, then the half of the dower (Is due to them), unless they remit it or (the man's half) is remitted by him in whose hands is the marriage tie; and the remission (of the man's half) is the nearest to righteousness. And do not forget Liberality between yourselves. For Allah sees well all that ye do.(2:238)
Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the Middle Prayer (Asr Prayer); and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind). (2:239)
If ye fear (an enemy), pray on foot, or riding, (as may be most convenient), but when ye are in security, celebrate Allah's praises in the manner He has taught you, which ye knew not (before). (2:240)
For divorced women Maintenance (should be provided) on a reasonable (scale). This is a duty on the righteous. (2:241)
Thus doth Allah Make clear His Signs to you: In order that ye may understand. (2:242)
So directly in between the verses of divorce in the Qur'an, Allaah Almighty tells us:
Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the Middle Prayer (Asr Prayer); and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind). (2:239)
Some scholars say that the wisdom of Allaah Almighty is so powerful that right in between these verses of divorce, Allaah mentions that we should guard our salaah (prayers.)
Due to our lack of faith, and because our sins - and because we do not perform our prayers either on time, or properly (with the right frame of mind) etc. these are the things that can lead to divorce, and therefore if we guard our prayers - Allaah Almighty will guard our marriage insha'Allaah, and therefore you should work your best to guard your salaah and Allaah Almighty will insha'Allaah help you in your marriage.
Mazed: Can you elaborate? :?
Khaldun: I'm trying to say that sins are what break a marriage apart. So if you keep sinning, it may cause more arguments between the couple, till they end up in a divorce.
And you all know the hadith:
Jabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Iblis places his throne upon water; he then sends detachments (for creating dissension); the nearer to him in rank are those who are most notorious in creating dissension. One of them comes and says: I did so and so. And he says: You have done nothing. Then one amongst them comes and says: I did not spare so and so until I sowed the seed of discord between a husband and a wife. The Satan goes near him and says: 'You have done well. A'mash said: He then embraces him. (Sahih Muslim Book 039, Hadith Number 6755.)
So stay away from sin.. but if you ever fall into sin - be regretful, and be the best of sinners - the ones who regret and beg Allaah for forgiveness. Do it quick, before Allaah brings down upon you a trial or calamity.. Because if you die before repenting, you will be responsible for that sin.
seeker_of_ilm: I remember, there was a brother who got married. He and his wife used to pray Qiyaam-ul-Layl (the night prayer) together. Their marriage was really blessed masha'Allaah.. after a while - they started investing in shares just as a business, but their shares dropped.
They never knew what to do, so they got a loan which involved interest.. but they couldn't keep up the payment - so they had to sell items from their house.
After a while - they started complaining to each other. They probably forgot about their salaah (prayers.) When one day - the wife was soo angry, she said "Why don't you just divorce me then!" The husband was angry too.. "Talaaq!" "Talaaq!" "Talaaq!" (I divorce you) (I divorce you) (I divorce you!)
They really regret it now...
Alpha Dude: Yeah.. sins can break up a marriage soo easily, and shaytan tries to cause that, even if they do start off with something permissible at the beginning. So we gota fear, and remember Allaah through everything we do.
G-HaD-Ta-Raaza: You know.. about what happened to that couple bro seeker - Allaah wages war against two types of people:
1) The ones who wage war against Allaah's awliya (friends)
2) The people who deal with interest.
Abu Hurairah, radiyallahu 'anhu, reported that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, said:
"Allah the Almighty has said: 'Whosoever acts with enmity towards a closer servant of Mine (wali), I will indeed declare war against him. Nothing endears My servant to Me than doing of what I have made obligatory upon him to do. And My servant continues to draw nearer to Me with supererogatory (nawafil) prayers so that I shall love him. When I love him, I shall be his hearing with which he shall hear, his sight with which he shall see, his hands with which he shall hold, and his feet with which he shall walk. And if he asks (something) of Me, I shall surely give it to him, and if he takes refuge in Me, I shall certainly grant him it.'"
Allah says in the Holy Qur'an:
"O you who believe! Fear Allah and give up what remains (due to you) from Riba (usury and interest), if you are really believers, and if you do not do it, then take a notice of war from Allah and His Messenger, but if you repent, you shall have your capital sums. Deal not unjustly (by asking more than your capital sums), and you shall not be dealt with unjustly (by receiving less than your capital sums." (2:278-279)
A scholar said that anyone who deals in interest, get your weapons ready, because on the day of judgement, you're going to fight against Allaah and His messenger (peace be upon him.)
Let's seek refuge in Allaah from that.. :(
Ahmed: That's scary...
H4RUN: Yeah.. jus gota stay away from it insha'Allaah.
limitless: ..But what can a person do to make their marriage secure?
Mazed: The first point has to be to keep their duty to Allaah, and to fear to disobey Him in everything we do.
So don't try to do anything haraam outside of marriage like Brother_Mujahid was saying earlier.
limitless: Yeah.. I understand that now.. But like - how can I.. you know :-[
Far7an: Oh. lol. You just got to show her you're commited and give her attention alot. They like that.
limitless: How can i do that?
Far7an: Make her feel secture, and make her feel that you're going to be with her through the good and bad insha'Allaah.
The Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) said:
"The best of you are those that are best to their wives" (Tirmidhi)
So be kind to her, because i've heard of brothers who act really kind to all their friends, but just when they get home - they take all their anger out on their wives and family.
The Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) said:
"Employ taqwa (fear of Allaah/God consciessness) and kindness, for indeed kindness was never in a thing but it adorned it, and never was it removed from a thing but it disgraced it." (Bukhaari and Muslim)
And also, he (peace be upon him) said:
"People! Follow my advice concering the kind treatment of wives. (I order you to treat your wives with kindness and love) The woman has been created from the rib and the rib is curved by nature, and tthe greatest curve is in its upper part. If you try to straighten the curved rib by force, it will break - and if you leave it alone, it will remain curved forever.
So follow my advice and treat your wives kindly and well." (Bukhari)
Even feed her if you get the chance :p
"The believer is rewarded for (every good action), even for the morsel he raises to his wife's mouth." (Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 537.)
But you should do it with the intention of pleasing Allaah Almighty.
Remember:
..live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good. (4:19)
And also:
..it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. (2:216)
If you ever feel helpless, then keep remembering Allaah - because if you remember Allaah through the easy times, He will help you through the difficult times.
And for those who fear Allah, He (ever) prepares a way out,
And He provides for him from (sources) he never could imagine. And if any one puts his trust in Allah, sufficient is (Allah) for him. For Allah will surely accomplish his purpose: verily, for all things has Allah appointed a due proportion. (Qur'aan 65: 2-3)
And obey Allah and His Messenger; and fall into no disputes, lest ye lose heart and your power depart; and be patient and persevering: For Allah is with those who patiently persevere: (Qur'aan 8:46)
limitless: jazak Allaah bros! (may Alaah reward you) :)
Far7an: Anytime insha'Allaah.. just remember what the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) said:
If Allaah has blessed any of you with a good wife, He has helped him with half of his religion, so he should fear Allaah with regard to the other half. (Al-Haakim.)