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Talib-ul-Ilm
06-04-2006, 02:18 PM
Anybody have any articles/information/links about who St. George was, and the crimes he committed against muslims ?
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HeiGou
06-04-2006, 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by Talib-ul-Ilm
Anybody have any articles/information/links about who St. George was, and the crimes he committed against muslims?
You know the Jewish joke about the Jewish scientist who produces a three volume set on the history of the Elephant? Volume 1 The Origins and Evolution of the Elephant, Volume 2 The Distribution and Threats to the Elephant, Volume 3 The Elephant and the Jewish Question.

St George, if he did commit crimes against Muslims, was awfully quick off the mark,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_George

Saint George (c. 275/280–April 23, 303) was a soldier of the Roman Empire and later became a Christian martyr.

Are you at all interested in crimes Muslims might have commited against St George?
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glo
06-04-2006, 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Talib-ul-Ilm
Anybody have any articles/information/links about who St. George was, and the crimes he committed against muslims ?
St George was a Christian martyr in the Roman empire. He died in 303 AD - long before the beginning of Islam. So I don't think he committed any crimes against Muslims.

However, the St George's cross (red cross on white flag) was carried as a symbol in the crusades against Islam.
Perhaps that's the connection. :?

Peace.
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muslim_friend
06-04-2006, 03:00 PM
I thougt the red cross on the white background had something to do with the Knights templars. After all it wasn't a 't' shaped cross. it was symmetrical wasn't it? :?
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Ghazi
06-04-2006, 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by glo
St George was a Christian martyr in the Roman empire. He died in 303 AD - long before the beginning of Islam. So I don't think he committed any crimes against Muslims.

However, the St George's cross (red cross on white flag) was carried as a symbol in the crusades against Islam.
Perhaps that's the connection. :?

Peace.
:sl:

Is this the same flag as the England one.
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Muezzin
06-04-2006, 03:24 PM
St. George killed 'dragons', not Muslims.
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muslim_friend
06-04-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
:sl:

Is this the same flag as the England one.
:w: yesss. the same one alright.
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Ghazi
06-04-2006, 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by muslim_friend
:w: yesss. the same one alright.
:sl:

so did he take part in the cursades.
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Ghazi
06-04-2006, 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by muslim_friend
:w: yesss. the same one alright.
:sl:

Inshallah bro, just noticed you location and may allah grant us shuhadaa.
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glo
06-04-2006, 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
:sl:

so did he take part in the cursades.
No, not St George.
He was dead hundreds of years before Muhammed was even born, let alone before the crusades started!

Peace.
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Ghazi
06-04-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by glo
No, not St George.
He was dead hundreds of years before Muhammed was even born, let alone before the crusades started!

Peace.
:sl:

Right thanks for the info.
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muslim_friend
06-04-2006, 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
:sl:

Inshallah bro, just noticed you location and may allah grant us shuhadaa.
:w: Ameen akhi! Let us pray for that......
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north_malaysian
06-05-2006, 03:59 AM
Originally Posted by Muezzin
St. George killed 'dragons', not Muslims.
that's what I've heard.

He's patron saint of England and Georgia isnt it?

Like St Andrew for Scotland. St Patrick for Ireland. St. Mark for Egypt and St. Francis Xavier for Malaysia.
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Joe98
06-05-2006, 05:08 AM
Originally Posted by islam-truth

so did he take part in the cursades.

perhaps you could read the date of his death in the post a few inches above and then check the dates of the crusades.

Hatred seems to come easily to Mulsims
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Muezzin
06-05-2006, 09:28 AM
People may be getting confused as the red cross (English flag) is called the Cross of St. George, which was flown during the Crusades.
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HeiGou
06-05-2006, 09:32 AM
Originally Posted by Muezzin
People may be getting confused as the red cross (English flag) is called the Cross of St. George, which was flown during the Crusades.
True. To try to turn this to something more productive, I noticed Wikipedia says,

In Islamic cultures, the figure of al-Khadr (or al-Khidr; according to the Qur'an a companion of the prophet Moses), is associated with St.George, who is also venerated under that name by Christians among mainly Muslim people, especially Palestinian people, and mainly around Jerusalem, where according to tradition he lived and often prayed near the Temple Mount, and is venerated as a protector in times of crisis. His main monument is the elongated mosque Qubbat al-Khadr ('The Dome of al-Khadr') which stands isolated from any close neighbors on the northwest corner of the Dome of the Rock terrace in Jerusalem.

Is there such a mosque and what is the Quranic basis for a belief in al-Khadr? It looks, umm, odd to me.
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