format_quote Originally Posted by
Joe98
Take 6 men.
These 6 men worked together for 3 years and knew each other well. 70 years afterwards have them write down their recollections of the events of those 3 years.
There will be discrepancies because people have different memories. If they wrote exactly the same thing that would be highly suspicious.
And therefore the Gospbels are plausible.
Peace be upon yall jus wanted to comment on this so that I could understand your point clearer, please be patient with me.
What I wanna jus say first is that, ok if we take that example of the 6 men who worked and then after so long wrote what they remembered, jus a couple of points.
1. We all then would have to agree that this would have mistakes and inconsistenes and would not be G-ds word and if it clashes with anyone else's writing then we would not jus be able to take this on its face value.
2. If it was jus these men's writing then we could begin to appriciate that it could have truth inside it, but it is clear that the authors were not the disciples of Jesus, it is also clear that in some Gospels bits and bobs were added in at later dates and so on, so we cannot be fully sure as to who wrote it.
So what I was confused on was, if we take for the sake of arguement that, these men got together and wrote after 70 years. Yet there were other gospels of others saying different things such as Jesus not being Crucified, then we would have to reconsider our position.
But in reality, when one looks at the Gospels and their history, some theories of the Q source and theories of the Author of Matthew taking parts from the Author of Mark then we can kinda see the authors may not be those men, since noone of them signed their work, and also we can see that there has been some tampering with the Gospels thus are not very reliable.
format_quote Originally Posted by
Joe98
Whereas Muhammad (PBUH) talked to God. God recited verbally the Koran. Mohammed memorised the whole book and recited the book verbally to scribes who wrote it down.
And there was not one mistake! This is not plausible!
We could go into this for a long time, now, the simple fact that even non-arabic speakers can memorise alot of the quran, shows that it can be easy if someone dedicates their life to it. My friends who have school and college and other wordly matters, who only spend a little of the day memorising have memories 15 and 20 parts out of the 30, and they are spending only a couple of hours a day, plus arabic is not their first language, there are also kids who memorise the whole thing, before puberty.
So imagine a person devoting most of the day, and they were arabic speakers then it would be easy for them to memorise it.
So it is not unlikely but rather likely, specially if thats all u do most of the day, personally the surahs I know have not been forgotten and I dont spend even half of the waking day reciting.
And the whole book didnt come at once, bit by bit.
Anyhow, peep this I think this is quran memorising competition thing,
Peep
thank ya for ya patience.
peace