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Pikachu
06-20-2006, 11:33 AM
CANNIBALISM IS RIFE IN CHRISTIAN
EUROPEAN/AMERICAN HISTORY

White Europeans have been the most barbaric savages throughout history, complete with an unbeaten track record of cannibalism. This article provides, in chronological order, the major incidents of cannibalism throughout European history.

Setting the record straight:
Natives were not always cannibals


Cannibalism among non-Europeans has been greatly exaggerated by the the Spaniards and the British who wanted to justify the abhorrent practice of slavery by maligning their captives.

References
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Saint_Lucia
3. http://www.native-languages.org/iaq13.htm


Cannibalism in Greece & Rome

The Spartans are perhaps among the earliest cannibals in recorded European history. They had the reputation of licking the blood of their enemies from their swords. Athenians also indulged in cannibalism during the Roman invasion.

Rome too has has its fair share of cannibalism. It was mostly practiced towards the end of the Roman empire.

References
1. http://www.unrv.com/book-review/the-fall-of-rome.php
2. http://www.barca.fsnet.co.uk/greece-early.htm


Cannibalism is rampant in the Bible

The Bible, true to its nature of being the worst book ever written by humanity, contains enough passages that describe, even in some cases recomend cannibalism. This is clearly shown in the following verses taken from the crappy Bible:

"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."
- Leviticus 26:29

"I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another."
- Zechariah 11:9

"The hands of the pitiful women have sodden their own children: they were their meat."
- Lamentations 4:10

References
1. http://www.nobeliefs.com/communion/communion.htm
2. http://www.bible-history.com/naves/C/CANNIBALISM/


Crusaders cooked and ate Muslim children

The commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Kill", as this bizarre Christian practice of cannibalism shows, is applicable to the killing of Christians. For when it comes to killing the peaceful Muslims and Jews, the Christians claimed that it was their religious duty to do so.

No atrocity was too heinous for these savage Christian fanatics to commit. After every battle they would return to their camps with the heads of the Muslim dead on top of poles as trophies.

All that of course pales in comparison to the barbaric Christian practice of killing, and cooking men women and little children of the Moslems they conquered. In 1096 after invading the town of Marat, the Christian crusaders engaged in cannibalism and ate those who were killed in battle, including, women and babies.

"Our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots. They impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled."
- Radulph of Caen (Frankish chronicler )

References
1. http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/1st%20Crusades.htm
2. http://www.umich.edu/~eng415/topics/...y-article.html
3. http://www.dragonbear.com/crusades.html


White Settlers in Jamestown, VA, ate native Americans

Remember Pocahontas? Her father, Powhatan's tribe may have been the victims of cannibalism.

In keeping with the barbarism of their Christian predecessors in Europe, these white settlers of Jamestown, Virginia in 1610 were digging up the corpses of these native Americans and eating them up.

References
1. http://www.historian.org/local/jamstwnva.htm
2. http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-nightm...2.html#Details
3. http://www.virtualjamestown.org/essays/brown_essay.html
4. http://chnm.gmu.edu/7tah/units_7tah.php?seventahid=14


Irish and Ukrainian cannibalism
within the past 200 years


Cannibalism was reported during the Irish potato famine of 1845-1849 in Western Europe. More recently, in Eastern Europe, the Ukrainians and th Russians have indulged in the abhorrent practise of anthropophagy.

References
1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3229000.stm
2. http://www.historyplace.com/worldhis...ide/stalin.htm
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine
4. http://www.albany.edu/~bret/critical...n_Ireland.html
5. http://www.radicalcongruency.com/200...nt-cannibalism


Cannibalism in Putin's Russia

As recently as 1996 ten people were charged with killing and eating other people. Police estimate that at least 30 people were eaten that year. However, this is not an isolated incident. Cannibalism has been quite a common practice in Russia recently.

References
1. http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/ukraine.html
2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2129910.stm
3. http://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/804.html
4. http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/02/...onvicted.shtml
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Malaikah
06-20-2006, 12:03 PM
Is this authentic?:rollseyes
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Mawaddah
06-20-2006, 01:44 PM
I always knew that there was cannibalism in Old Europe, but are these sources authentic?

This is clearly shown in the following verses taken from the crappy Bible:
We musn't talk about the Bible in such a way, because there is still some truth in it even though much of it was distorted.
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MinAhlilHadeeth
06-20-2006, 02:31 PM
Uh....:muddlehea
This had better not be authentic... or i won't feel very safe.
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AvarAllahNoor
06-20-2006, 02:32 PM
I'm feeling hungry just reading the title...
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MinAhlilHadeeth
06-20-2006, 02:34 PM
Thanks for making me feel safer!
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glo
06-20-2006, 07:45 PM
Yumm!
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snakelegs
06-20-2006, 07:50 PM
whoppee! if i become a christian, can i eat the people next door?
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glo
06-20-2006, 08:14 PM
Originally Posted by snakelegs
whoppee! if i become a christian, can i eat the people next door?
lol
What have they done to you??
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Mawaddah
06-20-2006, 08:18 PM
Hey did you know that they still eat foetus's (sp?) in China? for all you people who are salivating over this why dont you try some of that :rollseyes
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glo
06-20-2006, 08:18 PM
But seriously ... don't you think this is a very odd thread for an atheist to start in a Muslim forum? Especially if it's the very first post. What are Pikachu's motives, I wonder?
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Mawaddah
06-20-2006, 08:20 PM
^ I was surprised too glo! I guess he's just very much against Europeans/Christains or something.
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snakelegs
06-20-2006, 08:24 PM
Originally Posted by glo
lol
What have they done to you??
nothing really. but it would sure save money. besides some of the little ones look pretty tender.
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snakelegs
06-20-2006, 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by glo
But seriously ... don't you think this is a very odd thread for an atheist to start in a Muslim forum? Especially if it's the very first post. What are Pikachu's motives, I wonder?
it sure is!
maybe he's hungry? look at his user name.
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Mawaddah
06-20-2006, 08:28 PM
^ Does the name Pikachu have anything food related to it? :X
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glo
06-20-2006, 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Mawaddah
^ I was surprised too glo! I guess he's just very much against Europeans/Christains or something.
Sounds like stirring up trouble to me. :mmokay:
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Malaikah
06-21-2006, 02:05 AM
"Our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots. They impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled."
- Radulph of Caen (Frankish chronicler )
How come this is used as the evidence that Muslim kids were eaten when Muslims arent pagans?:mmokay:
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snakelegs
06-21-2006, 04:39 AM
Originally Posted by cheese
How come this is used as the evidence that Muslim kids were eaten when Muslims arent pagans?:mmokay:
mmmmm..... pickled pagans! yum.
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Malaikah
06-21-2006, 05:37 AM
lol snakelegs im scared now
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glo
06-21-2006, 06:28 AM
Originally Posted by cheese
How come this is used as the evidence that Muslim kids were eaten when Muslims arent pagans?:mmokay:
I suppose if this was written from a Christian perspective at that time, then Muslims would have been perceived as pagans ...:uhwhat

Same as Muslims in this forum refer to Christians as un-believers.
I sometimes feel like saying 'Hey, I'm not an un-believer, I'm a different-believer!':giggling:

Peace
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Malaikah
06-21-2006, 07:06 AM
huh?? im confused, i thought a pagan was someone with polytheistic beliefs? like idol worshippers and stuff :?
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duskiness
06-21-2006, 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by Pikachu
White Europeans have been the most barbaric savages throughout history, complete with an unbeaten track record of cannibalism.
-I think You wanted to say: "White Europeans were, are and for ever will be the most barbaric savages throughout history". Doesn't that sound better?


Originally Posted by Pikachu
Irish and Ukrainian cannibalism
within the past 200 years


Cannibalism was reported during the Irish potato famine of 1845-1849 in Western Europe. More recently, in Eastern Europe, the Ukrainians and th Russians have indulged in the abhorrent practise of anthropophagy.
- People when they are dying of starvetion do this. Not only in Europe. But unless You know how dying pains, Your not the best person to judge them.



Originally Posted by Pikachu
Cannibalism in Putin's Russia
Cannibalism has been quite a common practice in Russia recently.
-"common". LOL so don't go there!
n.
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Looking4Peace
06-22-2006, 05:23 AM
what if it is true though, its ok to point fingers at Africans who practice this, but then oh my the Europeans couldnt have done this could they have? this is the very denile and way of thinking that still makes europeans feel superior over everyone else, oh please im sure every culture has practiced cannibalism and some still do.
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glo
06-22-2006, 06:05 AM
Originally Posted by Crystal4Peace
what if it is true though, its ok to point fingers at Africans who practice this, but then oh my the Europeans couldnt have done this could they have? this is the very denile and way of thinking that still makes europeans feel superior over everyone else, oh please im sure every culture has practiced cannibalism and some still do.
Who has said that it's alright to point the finger at Africans??? :?

The point people are making, is that Pikachu's post is written in a way ('is rampant', 'is rife', 'the barbaric Christian practice', 'quite common pratice') which gives the impression that cannibalism is/has been a common practice amongst Christians.

I don't think anybody is in denial here, but you can see by people's reaction that it is quite difficult to take such an exaggerated statement seriously.
As far as I can see nobody has denied that there is some truth in the original statements. Neither has anybody said 'Let's point the finger at African's instead ... they are much worse anyway' (Where do you get that idea from, Crystal?)

Clearly cannibalism is a horrible thing. I am sure most others would agree with me!

Peace.
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iLL_LeaT
06-22-2006, 06:11 AM
LOL very funny

1 – None of those sources are reliable or even were written by any established scholars. In fact, some of those sources barley touch on the subject.

2 – To think that the consumption of the flesh and blood of Christ suggests that Christians where Cannibals is ridiculous.

I think this error in thinking is caused from the Age of Enlightenment, or the 18th century. In the 18th century, humans started to look at the world more rationally and logically. This was also, for the most part, the birth of science. A side effect of this “enlightenment,” it became harder to look at things as symbolic, including the bible. All of the sudden the bible took on a literal meaning. From looking at the bible and looking at how Catholics take communion as literal, one might conclude that if Christians eat the flesh and blood of Christ, then the ordinal followers of Christ probably actually consumed his blood and flesh. And that would be cannibalism. However, it should be looked at as symbolic.

Then again, I’m no scholar ether.
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Looking4Peace
06-23-2006, 03:24 AM
Originally Posted by glo
Who has said that it's alright to point the finger at Africans??? :?

The point people are making, is that Pikachu's post is written in a way ('is rampant', 'is rife', 'the barbaric Christian practice', 'quite common pratice') which gives the impression that cannibalism is/has been a common practice amongst Christians.

I don't think anybody is in denial here, but you can see by people's reaction that it is quite difficult to take such an exaggerated statement seriously.
As far as I can see nobody has denied that there is some truth in the original statements. Neither has anybody said 'Let's point the finger at African's instead ... they are much worse anyway' (Where do you get that idea from, Crystal?)

Clearly cannibalism is a horrible thing. I am sure most others would agree with me!

Peace.

you clearly didnt understand anything i said and u are twisting my words around great job :giggling:

i was simply stating that everyone has engaged in barbaric acts but you have racist white where i live who when they hear the term barbaric or cannibalism they always think of people other then europeans, you clearly didnt understand me and went of on a temper tantrum, take a chill pill.
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glo
06-23-2006, 05:37 AM
Originally Posted by Crystal4Peace
you clearly didnt understand anything i said and u are twisting my words around great job :giggling:

i was simply stating that everyone has engaged in barbaric acts but you have racist white where i live who when they hear the term barbaric or cannibalism they always think of people other then europeans, you clearly didnt understand me and went of on a temper tantrum, take a chill pill.
Hi Crystal4Peace

It seems that we both read each others post with our own interpretation and bias.

It seems that I have issues with the anti-Christian stance of Pikachus' post.

It seems that you have experienced racist white people in your own neighbourhood.

Those two view points are both valid, but are not really related. I talk about religious hatred, you talk about racial discrimination.
If Pikachu has posted this to cause division and tensions, let's not give him the satisfaction! :X
What do you think, sister? :thankyou:

Be in peace.
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