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IbnAbdulHakim
07-25-2006, 02:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
^ and so is that why I noticed you kinda quit this thread since bro Dhul stopped posting?...................not fair man.
LOL no nono thats not why :X


umm wats the next question :D
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amirah_87
07-25-2006, 02:50 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

next question: what's the sunnah on doing a disappearing act :X

just kiddin'...;D;D

NEXT QUESTION: what are the things that nulify your wuduu....and if you can come with a daleel..

barakAllaahu feekum!!:)
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-25-2006, 02:59 PM
umm... dissappear politely, discreetly and silently :X


lol but seriously:
Breaking Ablution
SAHIH BUKHARI
Volume 1, Book 4, Number 213:
Narrated 'Amr bin 'Amir:

Anas said, "The Prophet used to perform ablution for every prayer." I asked Anas, "What you used to do?' Anas replied, "We used to pray with the same ablution until we break it with Hadath."
Hadath is passing urine/stool or wind.

SAHIH BUKHARI

Volume 1, Book 4, Number 228:
Narrated 'Aisha:

Fatima bint Abi Hubaish came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle I get persistent bleeding from the uterus and do not become clean. Shall I give up my prayers?" Allah's Apostle replied, "No, because it is from a blood vessel and not the menses. So when your real menses begins give up your prayers and when it has finished wash off the blood (take a bath) and offer your prayers." Hisham (the sub narrator) narrated that his father had also said, (the Prophet told her): "Perform ablution for every prayer till the time of the next period comes."

So bleeding from the blood vessels is ok long as it isnt excessive but its not from the menses.

SAHIH BUKHARI
Volume 1, Book 5, Number 291:
Narrated Zaid bin Khalid AjJuhani:

I asked 'Uthman bin 'Affan about a man who engaged in the sexual intercourse with his wife but did not discharge. 'Uthman replied, "He should perform ablution like that for the prayer after washing his private parts." 'Uthman added, "I heard that from Allah's Apostle." I asked 'Ali bin Abi Talib, Az-Zubair bin Al-'Awwam, Talha bin 'Ubaidullah and Ubai bin Ka'b and a gave the same reply. (Abu Aiylub said that he had heard that from Allah's Apostle ) (This order was cancelled later on so one has to take a bath. See, Hadith No. 180).
^ That also breaks ur wudhu, forgive me for being childish but i cant stress on it :X




Next: What is the sunnah of genorisity (sry if this has been done)
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amirah_87
07-25-2006, 03:09 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

just an addition..camel meat also nulifies the wuduu right akhee and
also if one goes into a deep sleep...

forgive me for being childish but i cant stress on it
childish:?:?:? where..i think Bro's Iqram's thread musta gotten to you too much!! ;D

Next: What is the sunnah of genorisity (sry if this has been done)
sunnah for generosity...hmmm:?:? i don't think it's been done!!
but we'll do it anyways....:)
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Dhulqarnaeen
07-26-2006, 01:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nawal89
theres a short risaalah for sheikh muqbil rahimahullah and qasrussalaah fissafar.

i cant find it anywehre! :grumbling
:sl:
How is eeeeeeeverybody doing? Masha Allah, I hope you just all right insha Allah. Masha Allah, alhamdulillah I can online in this lovable thread :brother: . And who is this "maze" who said he love this thread cause of me? :rollseyes I just know bro Abdmajid who is the only male in here, and he is the most nicest person in this thread...:) when Im not around of course :X :D . Kidding. I love this thread cause youre here too akh Maze, I saw your posts and IM sure youre bro abdmajid...:brother: .
And I ever read a book by syaikh Yahya Al Hajury hafidhahullah about salah in safar, and I think he choose opinion that we can do qasr and jama' as long as we still in safar, and now muqim or not decide to stay forever in one place. But Im not sure, I havent finish reading it actually :D . And the distance of a travel that can be called travel, he choose opinion that its depend on a tradition of one area. And in here, Indonesia, if we go and packingsomethings, and bring food, then it called safar, so thats the culture of Indo people. I dont know, maybe in Yemen if you bring camel, and some dates, and put somekinda umbrella on the top of the camel maybe it will considered safar :D I dont know. And syaikh Yahya didnt choose the opinion about that 4 days. But its the opinion of sheikh Al Fawzan and syaikh Bin Baz. Allahu A'lam.:brother:
And yes, INdo had tsunamy, masha Allah, all we can do is just looking for hikmah around these disasters. Cause althought its sad but its a punishment from Allah maybe, Allahu A'lam. When Yogyakarta hit by the earthquake, no wonder I think cause this area support the syirk and syirk things supported by the government there Allahul mustaan. And when pangandaran beach hit by thunamy, no wonder too cause in those beaches it have so many ma'siah. So many dirty girls, and they do someinda show that make Allah angry, Allahu A'lam. Ups have to got o work. And pleeeeeeeeeeeease continue this thread, may ALlah give rewards to all of you all, amin. Ooh I have to go back to Jakarta tomorrow, I hate aeroplane :cry: somebody knock my head so I cant feel it:hiding: :hiding: . Just tawakal I think. But still its make me mmmmm "tegang". What do U call tegang in english sis maw? ;D . Gotta go now, see you all soon insha Allah.May Allah bless you all and make you all strong on manhaj salaaaaf. Please du'a for me too.
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Dhulqarnaeen
07-26-2006, 01:40 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
^ and so is that why I noticed you kinda quit this thread since bro Dhul stopped posting?...................not fair man.
:sl:
Thats great sis maw, jazakillah khair for your encouragement :brother: . Youre right, this thread is for manfaat, and its great to have you all here masha Allah. But the main reason is for spreading da'wah, and tahts why we should continue this thread, isnt that right guys? :brother: . Ups...my boss came.Lol. Chawwwwww. Great works guys. I miss to write more in this thread, but I cant. When Im back to Jakarta insha Allah.
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umm-sulaim
07-26-2006, 07:09 AM
MashaAllah bro Dhul good to know you're safe, and bi salaamah alhamdulillah..

well sis amira its my day akheeeeeeeeeeeeran!!!

i think its sunnah on generosity ya?

ok, hadeeth Jaabir in bukhaari and muslim that Jaabir radhiyaAllahu anhu said the prophet when asked would never say no (wasn't a miser).

hadeeth ibn mas'uud radhiyaAllahu anhu that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam sid " theres no jealousy except for two: a man that Allah has given wealth and spends it in whats right....alhadeeth, muttafagun alayhi (agreeed upon)

and 3an abee hurayra radhiyaAllahu anhu in hadeethun gudsee, Allah ta3aala says " o the sons of Adam give so that you may be given" muttafagun alayh.

Hadeeth abee hurayra too that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "charity doesn't decrease the wealth...muslim.
I guess for this we could use the ahadeeth that show the evils of stinginess and miserlyness too...

InshaAllah next one sunnah on how to treat the orphans?
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umm-sulaim
07-26-2006, 09:10 PM
YALLA YALLA GUUUUUUUUUUUMMUUUUUU, wake up people what is this!!

( Boy thats rich coming from me lol.......)

Still...come on people lets not loose our nashaat!? waffaganAllahu jamee3an!!
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-26-2006, 09:12 PM
sister theres a beautiful hadith which puts down the i think two or three conditions of genorisity, let me find it for you inshaAllah
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umm-sulaim
07-26-2006, 09:16 PM
Sure, truely greatful, thanks.
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-26-2006, 09:20 PM
i cant find it :'(


im sry but i read before that rasullulah saws said the two qualities of generosity are quality and quantity (it was said much more eloquently then that). Dont accept this hadith till i can find the actual one inshaAllah.


:salamext:
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umm-sulaim
07-26-2006, 09:24 PM
Ok inshaAllah thanks, do you remember where you read it?
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-26-2006, 09:26 PM
no.. i read two many books , it could have been hayatus sahaba (UNLIKELY), it could have been miskat ul-masabih (likely), it could have been sahih bukhari/muslim (not sure), it could have been any...
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umm-sulaim
07-26-2006, 09:28 PM
Lol khayr inshaAllah......i'll try bukhaari and muslim they're the only one we have from the ones you mentioned...
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amirah_87
07-27-2006, 09:21 AM
ass salaamu alaykum

InshaAllah next one sunnah on how to treat the orphans?
is that the next question ppl???

wa jazaakumullaahu khayran
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-27-2006, 09:32 AM
lol i aint got a clue, where did that question come from :confused:
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amirah_87
07-27-2006, 09:43 AM
ass salaamu alaykum

i dunno....i just pulled it from my pocket...LOL!!:D

check on pg34.... Sis umm sulaim posted it up and then:?:?:?

ppl started to answer on the generosity you asked ..........

and then.....:?:?:?

check it out!!! :)
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-27-2006, 10:17 AM
OOOOOOOOoooooooooh!!! SRY SIS I DIDNT REALISE :heated:


ok question is :

InshaAllah next one sunnah on how to treat the orphans?
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amirah_87
07-27-2006, 10:20 AM
ass salaamu alaykum

^^^ so that is the next question right!!??

how to treat an orphan!!:?:?...with kindness innit!! i might have to do sum research on this one!! :-\
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-27-2006, 10:27 AM
same here, and i cant do research till i get home :-\
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amirah_87
07-27-2006, 10:43 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

I think and Allaahu a3lam that they should be treated like every1 else....like in the mannerism that the Prophet Salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam said to treat ppl with kindness and all!!

i have a hadeeth that says..it's narrated by sahl ibnu sa3ad that the prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wassalam said:
Me and the provider/supporter an orphan are like this in Jannah...(and he indicated to his two fingers whilst holding them up)the middlle finger(al-wusadaa) and the one next to the thumb (as-sabbaabah).....al-bukhari

*still searchin:-\*
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Dhulqarnaeen
07-27-2006, 05:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
ass salaamu alaykum,

I think and Allaahu a3lam that they should be treated like every1 else....like in the mannerism that the Prophet Salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam said to treat ppl with kindness and all!!

i have a hadeeth that says..it's narrated by sahl ibnu sa3ad that the prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wassalam said:
Me and the provider/supporter an orphan are like this in Jannah...(and he indicated to his two fingers whilst holding them up)the middlle finger(al-wusadaa) and the one next to the thumb (as-sabbaabah).....al-bukhari

*still searchin:-\*
:sl:
What is orphans? Do U mean child who doesnt have parents? :? Ooh by the way...thanks for your attention guys to me about the thunamy, alhamdulillah Im saved. jazakumullah alfun khair. Its all because of the prayers. Actually we ever planned to take vacation to that beach, but alhamdulillah alla kulli hal.
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umm-sulaim
07-27-2006, 06:37 PM
Yeah saheeh alhamdulillah...wa iyyaak,

An orphan is someone without a father,

As for the 2 researchers,,,,*taps fingers* still waiting.........

lol...just kidding take your time ....

wassalaam.
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amirah_87
07-27-2006, 06:56 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

As for the 2 researchers,,,,*taps fingers* still waiting.........
:hiding: Sorry Sis!!
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Fishman
07-27-2006, 07:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
i have a hadeeth that says..it's narrated by sahl ibnu sa3ad that the prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wassalam said:
Me and the provider/supporter an orphan are like this in Jannah...(and he indicated to his two fingers whilst holding them up)the middlle finger(al-wusadaa) and the one next to the thumb (as-sabbaabah).....al-bukhari

*still searchin:-\*
:sl:
This hadith was one of the first I read, and one of the most wonderful of them as well. There's a list of good hadith at wikisource.
:w:
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amirah_87
07-27-2006, 07:10 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

This hadith was one of the first I read, and one of the most wonderful of them as well. There's a list of good hadith at wikisource.
jazakaAllahu khayr for the source akhee :peace:
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umm-sulaim
07-29-2006, 02:22 PM
Ok "researchers..." lol..

hadeeth you mentioned sis amira was what i had in mind too,...narrated by abee hurayra and sahal bin sa'ad...
we can also use in this baab ahaadeeth showing kindness to the needy (orphan is under this category)
the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalam said in a hadeeth narrated by abee hurayra that "the striver for the cause of the widow and the miskeen (needy) is like he who fights for the sake of Allah (mujaahid), Bukhaari and muslim,

also in another hadeeth "he who cares for 2 girls until they reach puberty, me and him will come on the day of judgement like these two",he then put his middle finger and indicator together, collected by muslim 3an anas radhiyaAllahu anhu.


whats the next question people....?
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amirah_87
07-29-2006, 06:43 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

okay then jazaakillaahu khayr!!

next question inshaAllah is: what are all the ettiquettes/mannerisms of preparing for the jum3ah prayer ?
or anything you know about this day and it's benefits & virtues...
what's the reward of going to the masjid early....
are you allowed to speak in the khutbah.......:X

anything bout yam al-jum3ah inshaAllah, and with the daleel ofcourse...:)

wassalaams ppl:peace:
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umm-sulaim
07-30-2006, 07:22 AM
Ok friday, its waajib, obligatory for every man (that has reached puberty) to go to the friday prayers, and its made at the time where the sun is highest, (dhuhur) from hadeeth salamah radhiyaAllahu anhu "we used to pray the friday prayer with the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam, then we would leave and there wouldn't be no shadows on the walls to seek shade"
Its also sunnah to go as early as you can, in hadeeth abee hurayra radhiyaAllahu anhu, the messeger of Allah said "whoever washes on friday, then goes in the first hour,is like he who presents a camel,
and whoever goes in the second hour, is like he who presents a cow,
and whoever goes in the third hour, is like he who presents a horned goat, and whoever leaves in the fourth hour, is like he who presented a chicken, and whoever goes in the fifth hour, is like he who presents an egg,
Bukhari and muslim.

3an ibnu 3umar radhiyaAllahu anhu "the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam used to make to khutba's and he woulds seperate between the two by sitting down" Bukhari and Muslim

even if you enter the masjid and the khateeb has already started, you still have to pray ta7iyyatul masjid, (the 2 units for entering the masjid)

From hadeeth Jaabir radhiyaAllahu anhu " that a man came in whilst the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam was making the khutba, the prophet said o so and so have you prayed? the man said no, the prophet then told him to stand and pray the 2 units, and he did.bUkhari and muslim

During the khutba you can't talk,
hadeeth abee hurayra radhiyaAllahu anhu that the messeenger of Allah said "if you tell your friend to be silenced on friday whilst the Imaam is making the khutba, then verily you have nullified"
Bukhari and muslim

And for the one that attends its sunnah for him to look his best from hadeeth abee sa3eed radhiyaAllahu anhu "its upon every muslim that has reached puberty to wash on friday, and to brush his teeth, and use perfume if he can find some.
Bukhari and muslim.


The next question inshaAllah is the sunnah of having good manners (husnu khluq), any ahadeeth on having good manners inshaAllah...

wassalaam.
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AK47EmirKhattab
07-31-2006, 04:56 PM
it is sunnah to perform instinja with left hand [PIE]:)[/PIE]
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amirah_87
07-31-2006, 08:19 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

jazakaAllah, thanx for sharing that with us akhee :peace:
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 01:01 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

husnul khuluq...havin good mannersim...is important in the deen and it also has alot of virtues..

it was narrated from the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam that he said: there is nothing more heaver on the mizaan (scale) than husnul khuluq...(hadeeth umm darr...in albane's saheeha)

and also in a hadeeth Abdullah ibn umar said ..the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wassallam was immoderate/excessive/foul..and he (the Prophet) used to say:The best of you are those with good ak-khlaaq/mannerism....(by bukhari & muslim)

there's alot of ahaadeeth on it's virtues..so i'm gonna leave it to them two inshaAllah...

i'm going to two examples of how the prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam was well mannered...

it was narrated by jaabir ibnu 3abdillaah radiyallaahu 3anhu he said that whenever the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam was asked about a matter, he would never say no...(bukhari & muslim)

and hadeeth narrated by anas bin malik radiyalaahu 3anhu sayin: i was a servant for rasululaah for ten years and he never said "UFF!" to me at all..
and he did'nt say to me why have't you done your work if i had'nt does it, or or if i'd done it , why did you do so....(bukhari & muslim)..

The prophet also used to make duaa for his khuluq to be better..."Allaahumma ahsin khuluqiy kamaa ahsanta khalqiy..."


May we all have husnul khuluq inshaAllah...

next question: the sunnah of hijrah...it's conditions..etc..anything you guys got inshaAllah:)

BarakAllaahu feekum:peace:
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umm-sulaim
08-01-2006, 09:20 AM
Hijra to a muslim country from one of the kaafir ones, or hijra between muslims?
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-01-2006, 09:41 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
ass salaamu alaykum,

husnul khuluq...havin good mannersim...is important in the deen and it also has alot of virtues..

it was narrated from the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam that he said: there is nothing more heaver on the mizaan (scale) than husnul khuluq...(hadeeth umm darr...in albane's saheeha)

and also in a hadeeth Abdullah ibn umar said ..the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wassallam was immoderate/excessive/foul..and he (the Prophet) used to say:The best of you are those with good ak-khlaaq/mannerism....(by bukhari & muslim)

there's alot of ahaadeeth on it's virtues..so i'm gonna leave it to them two inshaAllah...

i'm going to two examples of how the prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam was well mannered...

it was narrated by jaabir ibnu 3abdillaah radiyallaahu 3anhu he said that whenever the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam was asked about a matter, he would never say no...(bukhari & muslim)

and hadeeth narrated by anas bin malik radiyalaahu 3anhu sayin: i was a servant for rasululaah for ten years and he never said "UFF!" to me at all..
and he did'nt say to me why have't you done your work if i had'nt does it, or or if i'd done it , why did you do so....(bukhari & muslim)..

The prophet also used to make duaa for his khuluq to be better..."Allaahumma ahsin khuluqiy kamaa ahsanta khalqiy..."


May we all have husnul khuluq inshaAllah...

next question: the sunnah of hijrah...it's conditions..etc..anything you guys got inshaAllah:)

BarakAllaahu feekum:peace:
:sl:
I hope you all in a good condition in iman and taqwa, ameen. I kinda dont understand the question, the sunah of hijrah?
- If youre sorrounded by enemies (?)
- When you life in kafeer country. (?)
- Mmm...I dont know. Ooh..or maybe one of the sunnah is we have to make one amir of the hijrah, somekinda leader of the travel, and move to muslims country....mmmmm...guessing :X
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umm-sulaim
08-01-2006, 10:12 AM
Just incase you mean al hijra between the muslims, i'll do that, i think thats what you mean inshaAllah and if its not we'll do the rest too....hehe!

ok hadeeth anas radiyaAllahu anhu "don't be envious of eachother and don't hate eachother and don't turn your backs on eachother, and be the servants of Allah, brothers, and its not lawful for a muslim to make hijra from his brother for more than 3 days,
agreed upon.

Hadeeth abu Ayyuub alansaaree, that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said " it is not laywful for anyone to make hijra from fhis brother for more than 3 days,in meeting this one that one turns his back and the other turns his back, and the better of the 2 is the one that starts with salaam.
bukhari and muslim..

a hadeeth i like 3an aisha radiyaAlahu anhaa, if she was upset with the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam:
the rpophetsaid to her verily i know when you are pleased and when you're upset?
she said and how do you know that?
he said verily when you are happy with me you say of course by the lord of muhammed,
and if you were upset you say, of course by the lord of Ibraheem (alayhi salaam)
bukhari and muslim.
(SO SWEET...)

this is all i have at the mome....
wassalaam.
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Mawaddah
08-01-2006, 01:04 PM
Is that called 'hijrah' ?? wouldn't that be called ' Hajar '?? you getting me confused here :?
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umm-sulaim
08-01-2006, 01:39 PM
IN all the tabweebs and that its hijratul muslim akhaah, and stuff, its hijra too i guess, in adabul mufrad imma check bukhaari and muslimbut i'm sure its hijratul muslimen too,
or maybe i've been reading it wrong lol....ya Allah...
uhm...well i'm always up for tas7eeh lol....



BTW people she meant the hijra from the kaafir country to the muslim country lol....

so get crackin friends!

wassalaam!!
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 04:38 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

tsk tsk tsk ...guys hijratul 3aamah...is hijratul balad dodo's!!! :D

get crackin' ppl i don't wanna see this question lingering here for days :rant: ;)
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Mawaddah
08-01-2006, 04:46 PM
[MAD]You Callin me A DoDo!!!![/MAD]

( I'm sorry, but I dont think other people are willing to share the same title with you ;D ;D ;D )







:p :p

So Sunnah like what Princess?

Isn't it that when you want to make Hijrah from one Bilaad al Kufr to a Bilaad of Islaam then one of the shuroot of the 'Muslim' Country is that he will be able to practise his Islam freely? :?

Ermmm......... and also once a person makes Hijrah then it is not allowed for him to return back to the land from which he made hijrah, Except if it is for Da'wah, and if its for other than Da'wah, then it can only be for a period of 3 days.

Also that Hijrah is Waajib upon every able bodied muslim living in the Kaafir lands......

Is it this type of stuff you looking for Princess??
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Mawaddah
08-01-2006, 04:48 PM
I'm starting to feel that little spark of love in me for this thread starting to light back up again..............everyone lets get this thread moving again!! Brother Dhulqarnaen, umm_sulaim, amirah_87 and everyone else lets get rocking!! :shade:
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 04:50 PM
ass salaamu alaykum

looool....i was just kiddin' with ya ;)

yeah that's the kinda, stuff i want, with daleel too inshaAllah..:)

and if you could quickly whip a why a women does'nt have to have a mahram if she's makin' hijrah from a muslim to a kaafir country...that'd be great :thumbs_up

take care Darl ...i've gotta dash!!...:peace:
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 04:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
I'm starting to feel that little spark of love in me for this thread starting to light back up again..............everyone lets get this thread moving again!! Brother Dhulqarnaen & Bro Mazed, umm_sulaim, amirah_87 and everyone else lets get rocking!! :shade:
ass salaamu alaykum,

inshaAllah yeah...JUST DON'T TAKE ANY DARN VACACTIONS WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT INNIT MAW!!!! :rant: :rant:


Aaaaah yeah!! :statisfie

that's spark is sure commin back *i hope*

lets try keeping it up this time!! :rollseyes :rollseyes :D
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Abdul-Raouf
08-01-2006, 05:04 PM
ASSALAAMU ALAAIKKUM WA RAHMATHULLAHI WA BARAKHATHUHU...

BROTHER Dhulqarnaeen....... UR NAME IS COOL

There are four great rulers in the islamic history who had vast lands and ruled the world two of them are kaffirs and two are muslims of the muslims one is Prophet Sulaiman(pbuh) and the other is Dhulqarnaeen(pbuh)

King Dhulqarnaeen... built a great wall with iron and bronze ...and put Yahjuj - Mahjuj group of people inside ...it is said that huge wall is near a montain in goergia.....

During the end times after Isa (as) return a hole will be formed in that wall... and these Yahjuj - Mahjuj group of people will come out ... and cause havoc in the world..

ALLAH KNOWS BEST
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umm-sulaim
08-01-2006, 05:13 PM
so amira please next time be specific is'alee bi tafseel lol.....!!!!
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Mawaddah
08-01-2006, 05:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
ass salaamu alaykum

looool....i was just kiddin' with ya ;)

yeah that's the kinda, stuff i want, with daleel too inshaAllah..:)

and if you could quickly whip a why a women does'nt have to have a mahram if she's makin' hijrah from a muslim to a kaafir country...that'd be great :thumbs_up

take care Darl ...i've gotta dash!!...:peace:

Ok I'll try to do some research for them Insha'allah ;) I'm doing my research right now actually :)

Soooooo Hijrah is Waajib upon every able bodied Muslim living in the Kaafir lands. So it's Waajib for every Muslim to leave the Kaafir lands and go to a Muslim land.
رَوَى مُعَاوِيَةُ ، قَالَ : سَمِعْت رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ : { لَا تَنْقَطِعُ الْهِجْرَةُ حَتَّى تَنْقَطِعَ التَّوْبَةُ ، وَلَا تَنْقَطِعُ التَّوْبَةُ حَتَّى تَطْلُعَ الشَّمْسُ مِنْ مَغْرِبِهَا } . رَوَاهُ أَبُو دَاوُد .
Mu3aawiyah said , I heard Rasulullah peace be upon him saying " Hijrah will never be stopped until the time when Tawbah is no longer accepted, and Tawbah will never be stopped until the Sun rises from it's place of setting"


So as we know that Ever since the Fath of Makkah, Hijrah is no longer to be made from there, Rasululllah said :

‏قال رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏يوم فتح ‏ ‏مكة ‏ ‏لا هجرة بعد الفتح ولكن جهاد ونية وإذا ‏ ‏استنفرتم ‏ ‏فانفروا

There Shall be no Hijrah after the Conquest of Makkah, except [leaving] for Jihaad or for good intentions. And if you are called forth for war then Go forth.
(Bukhaari)


Also that when a person makes Hijrah, his intention should be solely for the purpose of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta3aala, as we find in the Hadeeth of Umar ibn al-Khattab
عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ : سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ { إنَّمَا الْأَعْمَالُ بِالنِّيَّاتِ } وَفِي رِوَايَةٍ : { بِالنِّيَّةِ وَإِنَّمَا لِكُلِّ امْرِئٍ مَا نَوَى ، فَمَنْ كَانَتْ هِجْرَتُهُ إلَى اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ، فَهِجْرَتُهُ إلَى اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ، وَمَنْ كَانَتْ هِجْرَتُهُ إلَى دُنْيَا يُصِيبُهَا أَوْ امْرَأَةٍ يَتَزَوَّجُهَا ، فَهِجْرَتُهُ إلَى مَا هَاجَرَ إلَيْهِ }
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From Umar ibn al-Khattab he said , I heard the Messenger of Allah saying "Verily Actions are by Intentions, And verily every person shall have that which he intended, so However made Hijrah for the Sake of Allah and his Messenger, then his Hijrah shall be for that. And whoever made Hijrah for some worldly gain, or for Marriage to a woman, then His Hijrah shall be for whatever he intended it to be for "

Gosh I can't find the hadeeth about the woman's hijrah without mahram now sorry :X and I"m in a rush too!! :( perhaps someone else can find it Insha'allah, I gotta goooooooo nowwww

:w:
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SirZubair
08-01-2006, 05:52 PM
:sl:

ONE thing i will point out which is NOT sunnah is :

It is not sunnah.. heck, it is absolutly Unislamic, to make fun of someone. Such as Ms.Rice. And then come up with pathetic excuses such as "..she isn't a prophet.." "..she is a politician.." It doesn't matter what position she holds in which country. At the end of the day, she is HUMAN. You and I have no right to make fun of her like that.

Seriously, this is sickening.

Before i went into that thread, i thought there would be dozens of Posts by Non-Muslims who would be defending her, and all the Muslims would be saying "aud'billah, that isn't nice,delete this thread..." but NO,.. the muslims of today think it is their Right to make fun of politicians.

Truth is,.. I lied. I was expecting such posts from my Fellow muslims. Why do i expect such pathetic behavior from my muslim brothers and sisters :? Do you even need to ask?

Subhan'allah.

Please, don't bang on and on about islam if you can't be bothered practising it.

Its not all about Zakat, Hajj, Fasting Jihad etc,.. Adab has a place in it too.

May allah swt guide all of you, as well as I.

:w:
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Kittygyal
08-01-2006, 06:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
:sl:

ONE thing i will point out which is NOT sunnah is :

It is not sunnah.. heck, it is absolutly Unislamic, to make fun of someone. Such as Ms.Rice. And then come up with pathetic excuses such as "..she isn't a prophet.." "..she is a politician.." It doesn't matter what position she holds in which country. At the end of the day, she is HUMAN. You and I have no right to make fun of her like that.

Seriously, this is sickening.

Before i went into that thread, i thought there would be dozens of Posts by Non-Muslims who would be defending her, and all the Muslims would be saying "aud'billah, that isn't nice,delete this thread..." but NO,.. the muslims of today think it is their Right to make fun of politicians.

Truth is,.. I lied. I was expecting such posts from my Fellow muslims. Why do i expect such pathetic behavior from my muslim brothers and sisters :? Do you even need to ask?

Subhan'allah.

Please, don't bang on and on about islam if you can't be bothered practising it.

Its not all about Zakat, Hajj, Fasting Jihad etc,.. Adab has a place in it too.

May allah swt guide all of you, as well as I.

:w:
now someone here as got a brain so :thumbs_up
and AMIN!!
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 09:21 PM
ass salaamu alaykum,

that's true akhee, we should all try to refrain our tongues from bad mouthing ppl!!!

something we all have got to work on inshaAllah!! :peace:
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 09:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Ok I'll try to do some research for them Insha'allah ;) I'm doing my research right now actually :)

Soooooo Hijrah is Waajib upon every able bodied Muslim living in the Kaafir lands. So it's Waajib for every Muslim to leave the Kaafir lands and go to a Muslim land.
رَوَى مُعَاوِيَةُ ، قَالَ : سَمِعْت رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ : { لَا تَنْقَطِعُ الْهِجْرَةُ حَتَّى تَنْقَطِعَ التَّوْبَةُ ، وَلَا تَنْقَطِعُ التَّوْبَةُ حَتَّى تَطْلُعَ الشَّمْسُ مِنْ مَغْرِبِهَا } . رَوَاهُ أَبُو دَاوُد .
Mu3aawiyah said , I heard Rasulullah peace be upon him saying " Hijrah will never be stopped until the time when Tawbah is no longer accepted, and Tawbah will never be stopped until the Sun rises from it's place of setting"


So as we know that Ever since the Fath of Makkah, Hijrah is no longer to be made from there, Rasululllah said :

‏قال رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏يوم فتح ‏ ‏مكة ‏ ‏لا هجرة بعد الفتح ولكن جهاد ونية وإذا ‏ ‏استنفرتم ‏ ‏فانفروا

There Shall be no Hijrah after the Conquest of Makkah, except [leaving] for Jihaad or for good intentions. And if you are called forth for war then Go forth.
(Bukhaari)


Also that when a person makes Hijrah, his intention should be solely for the purpose of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta3aala, as we find in the Hadeeth of Umar ibn al-Khattab
عَنْ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ : سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ { إنَّمَا الْأَعْمَالُ بِالنِّيَّاتِ } وَفِي رِوَايَةٍ : { بِالنِّيَّةِ وَإِنَّمَا لِكُلِّ امْرِئٍ مَا نَوَى ، فَمَنْ كَانَتْ هِجْرَتُهُ إلَى اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ، فَهِجْرَتُهُ إلَى اللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ، وَمَنْ كَانَتْ هِجْرَتُهُ إلَى دُنْيَا يُصِيبُهَا أَوْ امْرَأَةٍ يَتَزَوَّجُهَا ، فَهِجْرَتُهُ إلَى مَا هَاجَرَ إلَيْهِ }
]

From Umar ibn al-Khattab he said , I heard the Messenger of Allah saying "Verily Actions are by Intentions, And verily every person shall have that which he intended, so However made Hijrah for the Sake of Allah and his Messenger, then his Hijrah shall be for that. And whoever made Hijrah for some worldly gain, or for Marriage to a woman, then His Hijrah shall be for whatever he intended it to be for "

Gosh I can't find the hadeeth about the woman's hijrah without mahram now sorry :X and I"m in a rush too!! :( perhaps someone else can find it Insha'allah, I gotta goooooooo nowwww

:w:
ass salaamu alykum

MashaAllah!!....that was alright i suppose, but since you've had your feet up for too long i'm gonna have to make you sweat more..... ;)

Gosh I can't find the hadeeth about the woman's hijrah without mahram now sorry :X and I"m in a rush too!! :( perhaps someone else can find it Insha'allah, I gotta goooooooo nowwww
find what you have to on that...you or anybody else..and one more thing :p

when a person makes hijrah to a muslim country, can he/she go back to the land he made hijrah from or not???..????

take care :peace:
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Mawaddah
08-01-2006, 10:26 PM
[S]Whaddaya mean that my answer was allright you suppose eh?[/S]

[PIE]Sure you can make me sweat some more but not right now coz I'm going home to put up my feet some more muahahahahaha :Evil:[/PIE]

[BANANA]But no, I'm serious, I'm fasting today and I'm just about half dead now.....almost 16 hours gone by of fasting...*sniff* and i'm exhausted......maybe tomorrow Insha'allah.....Or you go ahead and do it!! :happy: You're nice :wub:;D[/BANANA]
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amirah_87
08-01-2006, 10:33 PM
ass salaamu alaykum,

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

ukhtiy, you forgotten how to fast and multi-task huh....running from the maktabah to the mazr3ah ...going to the duroos on empty stomach...ey...
rushing back home to prepare iftaar....:heated:
i should come over there and give you a good spankin' :p just kiddin!!

...ya laytaniiy uhaarishuki 3alaa al-mudarisaat ey??..loooool!!

Or you go ahead and do it!! You're nice
me answer my own question...naaah i'll play by the quiz rules :p

maybe tomorrow Insha'allah
i'll be waiting ukthiy! ;)

have anice iftaar sis...are your mum's cinnamon rolls on the menu :wub:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-02-2006, 02:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muzammil
ASSALAAMU ALAAIKKUM WA RAHMATHULLAHI WA BARAKHATHUHU...

BROTHER Dhulqarnaeen....... UR NAME IS COOL

There are four great rulers in the islamic history who had vast lands and ruled the world two of them are kaffirs and two are muslims of the muslims one is Prophet Sulaiman(pbuh) and the other is Dhulqarnaeen(pbuh)

King Dhulqarnaeen... built a great wall with iron and bronze ...and put Yahjuj - Mahjuj group of people inside ...it is said that huge wall is near a montain in goergia.....

During the end times after Isa (as) return a hole will be formed in that wall... and these Yahjuj - Mahjuj group of people will come out ... and cause havoc in the world..

ALLAH KNOWS BEST
:sl:
Sukran jazeelan yaa akhee, your names too masha Allah. And why dont you join us in this thread and answering the questions all you can, insha Allah manfaat for you especially and for us generally.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-02-2006, 02:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
:sl:

ONE thing i will point out which is NOT sunnah is :

It is not sunnah.. heck, it is absolutly Unislamic, to make fun of someone. Such as Ms.Rice. And then come up with pathetic excuses such as "..she isn't a prophet.." "..she is a politician.." It doesn't matter what position she holds in which country. At the end of the day, she is HUMAN. You and I have no right to make fun of her like that.

Seriously, this is sickening.

Before i went into that thread, i thought there would be dozens of Posts by Non-Muslims who would be defending her, and all the Muslims would be saying "aud'billah, that isn't nice,delete this thread..." but NO,.. the muslims of today think it is their Right to make fun of politicians.

Truth is,.. I lied. I was expecting such posts from my Fellow muslims. Why do i expect such pathetic behavior from my muslim brothers and sisters :? Do you even need to ask?

Subhan'allah.

Please, don't bang on and on about islam if you can't be bothered practising it.

Its not all about Zakat, Hajj, Fasting Jihad etc,.. Adab has a place in it too.

May allah swt guide all of you, as well as I.

:w:
:sl:
Thats right akhee...we may not curse anyone, EXCEPT one kafeer who abviously attack, or hate or help eachother to attack muslims. Ever read the hadith about the agreement hudhaybiyah? It was the agreement between Rasulullah and those kafereen. And Abu Bakr cursed one of those kafereen, he said "Suck Uzzas farji (pardon)". And Rasulullah silent about this, its taqreer from Rasulullah that we may curse non muslims who abviously being our enemy or attacking muslims Allahu A'lam.(See sahih Bukhari about this and read the explanation about this hadith in fath al bahry) But non muslims who life peacefully with muslims then haram to disturb them.
But if you ask me akhee, there no use to curse her anyway, what manfaat can it bring? :rollseyes If by cursing her it can make her chair rolling up side down or make pentagon which full of those jews flat to the ground, then I will curse her ... BIG TIME:X :D.
By the way...this thread is about sunnah, if you wanna learn then you should read and take manfaat, or maybe you wanna answer the questions then please we welcome you happily:thankyou: , believe me, its manfaat for you insha Allah. Its better than you surfing around these threads in the board and tell about those condoleeza bread...I mean rice being cursed. Still akheel kareem, the one who curse her is your brothers and sisters, but the one who you trying to defend is non muslims. You will realize it when you life in those countries thats being attacked by US and their allies. When you will have all your families dead and one of your foots gone cause of their bombs and you have no place to life, then that time you will realize why they curse or make fun of that woman. So...al wala' wal bara' I think, we should learn more about that insha Allah.
And why we talk about big things that we know we will never able to handle? We are sad that Lebanon are being attacked by that la'natullah, Iraq were tearing apart and destroyed, and all areas thats being underestimated and tortured by those kafereen, deeply sad. But what can we do except saying our du'as everynight so Allah save our bros and sis ver there and unite Islams to face the enemy.
Akhee...by learning sunnah, its mean we are trying to build our victory. How can we gonna win big things if we dont know little things like pray according sunnah, wudhu according sunnah, dress according sunnah, how can we will win? As long as we are far from sunnah then we WILL NEVER win from them. Its them, the companions who hold sunnah tightly who could throw those jews OUT from arabian, and humiliate them and their destiny lied on the companions glorious hands. As long as we dont learn about sunnah, dont you ever expect to win from those kafereen.
Ups...Im out of target I think. Cause this sir stand up for that USAs leader. SO Wabillahi taufiq then.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-02-2006, 02:55 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamgyal
now someone here as got a brain so :thumbs_up
and AMIN!!
:sl:
Im offended you said that sis :uhwhat If you read from the first of this thread till the end you will know this room full with knowledges thats being gift by our bros and sis with a spirit to learn sunnah, and we are learning here with a good niyah insha Allah. And I saw my sisters in here especially and also my bro so knowledgable, so I will stand for them if theres anyone who wanna underestimate them:rant: .
What you said above just very bad, you know, sometimes a mouse will say their friends mouses as clever as them, but still theyre a mouse who life hidingly in humans house :X If you know what I mean.
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Nidita
08-02-2006, 03:09 AM
:salamext:

:peace:

Did u know, it's sunnah tht, thanx to Allaah all da time, inshaAllaah !

" MAY ALLAAH GIVES US DA ABILITIES TO SEE HIM & TAKE JANNAH FRM HIM, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "
Jazakh Allaahukhaeran !

:w:
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umm-sulaim
08-02-2006, 06:15 AM
Ameen to your lovely du'aa sis,
wassalaam.
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Nidita
08-02-2006, 07:04 AM
:salamext:

Vry mch jazakhAllaah to u to ameen on my du'aa sis !

It's also a sunnah to loves ur muslim bro's & sis's deeply ! ! !

So tht, I luvs u & all of u muslims vry vry v...ry mch, inshaAllaah ! ! !

" MAY ALLAAH HELP US TO DONE DA SUNNAAH'S PERFECTLY & PROPERLY, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "
Jazakh Allaahukhaeran, again !

" Fee-AmaniAllaah ! "

:peace:

:w:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-02-2006, 12:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nidita
:salamext:

:peace:

Did u know, it's sunnah tht, thanx to Allaah all da time, inshaAllaah !

" MAY ALLAAH GIVES US DA ABILITIES TO SEE HIM & TAKE JANNAH FRM HIM, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "
Jazakh Allaahukhaeran !

:w:
aamin. And may Allah make us love our bros and sis and strengthen the line between our love to akheerat more than our love to dunya. And And may Allah will never make us the slave or follower of kafeereen, or being lead by them with their power or with their methods, aamin
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amirah_87
08-02-2006, 01:52 PM
ass salaamu alaykum,

ameen to your duaah sis nadita...

you should join us on this thread inshaAllah:peace:
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Nidita
08-02-2006, 01:55 PM
:salamext:

AMEEN, bro & sis, AMEEN ! ! !

Did u know tht, eating on da floor {not on a table}, just in a cloth\{in arabic}dastarkhan-a upto da floor, is also a great & vry mch hard & important SUNNAH 4 US ! ! ! ! ! ! !????!!!!!!!

" MAY ALLAAH GIVES US MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGE TO STUBLISH OUR DEEN PURE, PROPER & PERFECTLY, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "
{ameen}

Jazakh Allahukhaeran !

{and 4 Amirah sis, my name is NIDITA not NADITA . But actualy my {nick} name is RIDITA . Okay ?! Now u can call me easily, inshaAllaah my dear sis . And U absolutely don't worried abt tht, me should b mind 4 ur mistake . I just don't mind 4 any thing, just want to tell da right one ! JUST IT, my dear sis ! ! ! }

:peace:

:w:
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Fishman
08-02-2006, 02:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nidita
:salamext:



Did u know tht, eating on da floor {not on a table}, just in a cloth\{in arabic}dastarkhan-a upto da floor, is also a great & vry mch hard & important SUNNAH 4 US ! ! ! ! ! !
:sl:
Are you sure? Islamtoday.com says no.
:w:
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Mawaddah
08-03-2006, 02:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
ass salaamu alaykum,

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

ukhtiy, you forgotten how to fast and multi-task huh....running from the maktabah to the mazr3ah ...going to the duroos on empty stomach...ey...
rushing back home to prepare iftaar....:heated:
i should come over there and give you a good spankin' :p just kiddin!!
No it's not that I forgot how to fast and multitask at the same time, it was just that on that particular day I hadn't had much sahur.....just a tiny bite of bagel and a few sips of water........I just had no appetite :heated:
But if I was back in Dammaj man.......I'm sure that nothing could have put me off going to the duroos!! :'(

format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
...ya laytaniiy uhaarishuki 3alaa al-mudarisaat ey??..loooool!!
Yeah, I and you'd spank the pants offa me innit :'( ;D



format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
have anice iftaar sis...are your mum's cinnamon rolls on the menu :wub:
No she didn't make cinnamon rolls......I can't beleive you still remember them from Dammaj! :lol: But I'm making cinnamon rolls this saturday with a few sisters here insha'allah....they want to learn....I'm the pro in baking now remember, not my mom anymore :D

So anyway back to the topic.......About the Hijrah of a woman yeah.......hmmmm....

Well actually I dont know any specific Hadeeth which says that a woman can travel by herself for the sake of Hijrah, but I just know the Aqwaal of the Ulama....
And also there is the Hadeeth from the Nabi 3alayhissalam " Ana Baree2 min Kulli Muslim sakan bayna Adhhur alkuffar...." (Bil Ma3naa) " I have cut off ties with every Muslim who makes his home amongst the Kuffar "

So since the matter is so heavy like this, and since it is waajib for a Muslim to make Hijrah from a land in which he cannot practise his Deen.......this applies to both Woman and men Innit....So I guess she has to take every measure to save her Deen. And this is why the Rukhsah came for her Wallahu A3lam.

I have a Quote here from Al-Qaadhi 3iyaadh:

‏وقد قال القاضي : واتفق العلماء على أنه ليس لها أن تخرج في غير الحج والعمرة إلا مع ذي محرم إلا الهجرة من دار الحرب , فاتفقوا على أن عليها أن تهاجر منها إلى دار الإسلام وإن لم يكن معها محرم , والفرق بينهما أن إقامتها في دار الكفر حرام إذا لم تستطع إظهار الدين , وتخشى على دينها ونفسها

Al-Qaadhi Says : "And the Ulama have agreed that it is not for a woman to Travel for other than Hajj and Umrah except with a Mahram, Except in the cases of Hijrah from Daar al-Harb (land of the Kuffar) . So they have agreed that it is upon her to perform Hijrah from those lands to the lands of Islam, Even if she does not have a Mahram. And the difference between the two is that It is haraam for her to stay in a Kaafir land if it is not possible for her to practise her Deen, and she lives in fear of her Deen and her Life........"

This is all I could find Princess.........sorry if it's not what you're looking for :(

And please dont make me sweat anymore, I've been researching for so long already :'(
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amirah_87
08-03-2006, 02:36 PM
ass salaamu alaykum,

Laa Ba's Sis...mashaAllah you done good!! :thumbs_up you could post up the next question inshaAllah!!

No she didn't make cinnamon rolls......I can't beleive you still remember them from Dammaj! :lol: But I'm making cinnamon rolls this saturday with a few sisters here insha'allah....they want to learn....I'm the pro in baking now remember, not my mom anymore
who could forget 'em Sis!!....:wub: PM me the recipe inshaAllah, i'm gonna try to do it my ametaur style way inshaAllah!! ;)
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Mawaddah
08-03-2006, 02:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
ass salaamu alaykum,

Laa Ba's Sis...mashaAllah you done good!! :thumbs_up you could post up the next question inshaAllah!!
Why dont you give the full answer then so we can all benefit properly? :rollseyes



format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
who could forget 'em Sis!!....:wub: PM me the recipe inshaAllah, i'm gonna try to do it my ametaur style way inshaAllah!! ;)
When I get home Insha'allah I'll send them over to you on email......BTW did Kakak make those chicken buns yet? :?

Ok lets not turn this into a food thread :D

Next Question :

What are the etiquettes and Adab of Greeting someone? :)
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umm-sulaim
08-03-2006, 02:42 PM
Looooooool !!

mawaddah i told you we couldn't forget your mums cooking man....you were shocked bout the chicken buns lol....i'm not on my own lol....
i loved your fawaa'd BTW, reminds me of something you'd see in the 3umdah dafetr lol...
*umm salamahs voice* gaalal ghaadhee 3iyaadh....

so whats the next question ya mawaddah?
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amirah_87
08-03-2006, 02:44 PM
ass salaamu alaykum,

[QUOTE]Why dont you give the full answer then so we can all benefit properly[QUOTE]
i had the same sorta thing as qaadiy 3iyaad , just from aqwaal alulamaah , not any specific ahaadeeth, by ibn hajar i think it was...

nakfiy bi haqqik..ma qadart aktub kulluhuu.. bii kasl shadeed al-yawm..wal 3iyaadhu billaah!!

BTW did Su'aad make those chicken buns yet?
no she did'nt y'know!! ... tsk tsk tsk, i'm gonna go scream down her ears now!! :(

Ok lets not turn this into a food thread :D
:D

What are the etiquettes and Adab of Greeting someone?
that's the next question ppl!!^^^

wassalaams
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-04-2006, 09:25 AM
[QUOTE=amirah_87;432743]ass salaamu alaykum,

[QUOTE]Why dont you give the full answer then so we can all benefit properly
i had the same sorta thing as qaadiy 3iyaad , just from aqwaal alulamaah , not any specific ahaadeeth, by ibn hajar i think it was...

nakfiy bi haqqik..ma qadart aktub kulluhuu.. bii kasl shadeed al-yawm..wal 3iyaadhu billaah!!



no she did'nt y'know!! ... tsk tsk tsk, i'm gonna go scream down her ears now!! :(



:D



that's the next question ppl!!^^^

wassalaams
The question is "What is the sunnah in making cinnamoon roll or maybeeee chicken buns?!?!?" :uhwhat You choose girls. And its up to you all wether its sunnah of sis maw or her mother or even Umm Sulaim....you guys makes me hungry :heated: I havent got lunch yet now :offended: . And Ima entered this room and found you all talking about foods :grumbling . Gotta go then....to the dining rooooooooooooommmm :D
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-04-2006, 09:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nidita
:salamext:

AMEEN, bro & sis, AMEEN ! ! !

Did u know tht, eating on da floor {not on a table}, just in a cloth\{in arabic}dastarkhan-a upto da floor, is also a great & vry mch hard & important SUNNAH 4 US ! ! ! ! ! ! !????!!!!!!!

" MAY ALLAAH GIVES US MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGE TO STUBLISH OUR DEEN PURE, PROPER & PERFECTLY, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "
{ameen}

Jazakh Allahukhaeran !

{and 4 Amirah sis, my name is NIDITA not NADITA . But actualy my {nick} name is RIDITA . Okay ?! Now u can call me easily, inshaAllaah my dear sis . And U absolutely don't worried abt tht, me should b mind 4 ur mistake . I just don't mind 4 any thing, just want to tell da right one ! JUST IT, my dear sis ! ! ! }

:peace:

:w:
( +o( <<<< typing with mouth full with foods).
I dont know wether its sunnah to eat on the floor :rollseyes Eventhough Rasulullah often ate on the floor but is there any reward to eat on the floor? :? Please someone explain, jazakumullah khair
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umm-sulaim
08-04-2006, 09:44 AM

The question is "What is the sunnah in making cinnamoon roll or maybeeee chicken buns?!?!?" :uhwhat You choose girls. And its up to you all wether its sunnah of sis maw or her mother or even Umm Sulaim....you guys makes me hungry :heated: I havent got lunch yet now :offended: . And Ima entered this room and found you all talking about foods :grumbling . Gotta go then....to the dining rooooooooooooommmm :D

lol yeah we kinda went off topic sorry ....

back to the question then...
wassalaam.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-04-2006, 09:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Why dont you give the full answer then so we can all benefit properly? :rollseyes





When I get home Insha'allah I'll send them over to you on email......BTW did Kakak make those chicken buns yet? :?

Ok lets not turn this into a food thread :D

Next Question :

What are the etiquettes and Adab of Greeting someone? :)
:sl:
1. We should say salam first before them.
2. According hadith of ibn Abbas, when he met someone he said salam and then they walked together and then theyre separated by a tree and then when they see eachother again they say salam again.
3. IF we are on our cars or somehting, we should say salam to someone who is sitting in the side of the road or someone who is walking. And somone who is walking say salam to who sit at the side of the road.
4. If we are in salah, then we may raise our hand if someone said salam to us.

I dont know wether hold eachother or kiss eachother included sunnah? :? maybe its urf (tradition) right? Someone?
Sorry no complete daleels :cry:, yaa Allah, may someone do research on my answers :cry: ameen. :D
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umm-sulaim
08-04-2006, 09:53 AM
This hadeeth mentions eating on the floor although its not waadhi3, clear..
Jabir bin 'Abdullah, may Allah be pleased with them, reported:
While the digging of the Trench was in progress, I saw Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) feeling very hungry. I came to my wife and said to her: Is there anything with you? I have seen Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) feeling extremely hungry. She brought out bag of provisions which contained a sa' of barley. We had also with us a lamb. I slaughtered it. She ground the flour. ....muslim

this hadeeth shows that jaaabir alayhi salaams wife set the food on the floor..
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umm-sulaim
08-04-2006, 10:20 AM
OK back to sis maws question:

tayyib...from the manners of salaam is hadeeth abee hurayra radhiyaAllahu anhu that the proohet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "the one riding (ar-raakib) gives salaams to the one walking, and the walking give salaams to the one sitting, and the little group give salaams to the bigger group.
bukhari and muslim

also from hadeeth anas that the rpophet would pass by a group of children and give them salaams, its muttafaqun alayhi (agreed upon)

from hadeeth anas also that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said: if the people of the book greet you (say salaams) say and the same to you, wa 3alayka. muslim,
i don't know if its in bukhaari...?

also we give salaams to who we know and who we don't know, narrated ibn 3amre that the rpophet alayhi salatu wassalaam said and you greet those who you know and those who you don't, agreed upon

also hadeeth aisha that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam if he enetered the house at night, he wouls say salaams in a manner that wouldn't wake the sleeping, muslim

also the hadeeth that you reply with equal salaam or you say even better, but i can't remeber the sahaabi or the takhreej...sorry

i hope thats ok inshaAllah,
wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-04-2006, 11:25 AM
^ Masha'allah yes thanks for the great Daleel and all!! :happy: Bro Dhulqarnaeen yours was right too but Daleel next time please :rollseyes

Ok Kakak........give the next question please :D
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umm-sulaim
08-04-2006, 11:57 AM
lol ok adik

next one is sunnah for sleeping inshaAllah hope it hasn't been asked lol....

wassalaam..
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Nidita
08-04-2006, 01:21 PM
:salamext:

A........ Sunnah 4 sleeping na ?! Okay....... let me give it to u, inshAllaah......

" Read da sur'ah_tul-MUULQ, properly & sincerely on every night(before sleeping), inshaAllah ! It will b turn away u, from da JAHANNAM(hell), in da here-after, inshaAllaah ! "
{It's da SUNNAH !}

And, plz... give me da SUNNAH 4 JOURNEY, inshaAllaah !

" MAY ALLAAH TAKE OUR GOOD DEEDS & THROWN AWAY OUR BAD ONES, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "{ameen}

Jazakh Allaahukhaeran !

:peace:

:wasalamex

:rose:
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sameer
08-04-2006, 02:12 PM
hadith on journeys

Sahih Bukhari : Volumn 002, Book 020, Hadith Number 192.
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Narated By Ibn 'Umar : The Prophet said, "A woman should not travel for more than three days except with a Dhi-Mahram (i.e. a male with whom she cannot marry at all, e.g. her brother, father, grandfather, etc.) or her own husband.)"

hmmm.....

Volumn 002, Book 020, Hadith Number 198.
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Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Amir : From his father who said, I saw the Prophet (p.b.u.h) offering the prayer on his mount (Rahila) whatever direction it took.

hmm see how easy islam is? if we're on a plane or in a car we have the option to pray in the direction it is travelling in.

Volumn 002, Book 020, Hadith Number 186.
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Narated By Ibn Abbas : The Prophet once stayed for nineteen days and prayed shortened prayers. So when we travel led (and stayed) for nineteen days, we used to shorten the prayer but if we travelled (and stayed) for a longer period we used to offer the full prayer.
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Nidita
08-04-2006, 02:43 PM
:salamext:

OH... BRO, Subhan Allaah & MashaAllaah-barakAllaah ! thts so favourable & GOOD !

V......ry mch Jazakh Allaahukhaeran to u, my BRO !

And yes, Islam is da DEEN really da most easier to us ! So tht, Islam is da DEEN da BEST in all SIDE, inshaAllaah !

Anyways, Jazakh Allaahukhaeran again !

:peace:

:wasalamex

:rose:
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Mawaddah
08-04-2006, 02:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
lol ok....

next one is sunnah for sleeping inshaAllah hope it hasn't been asked lol....

wassalaam..
Ok So here are some Sunan for sleeping, I got these from Awnal Ma3bood by the way :D :

Dusting Your BedPlace before sleeping

‏عن ‏ ‏أبي هريرة ‏ ‏قال ‏
‏قال رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏إذا أوى أحدكم إلى فراشه فلينفض فراشه ‏ ‏بداخلة ‏ ‏إزاره فإنه لا يدري ما خلفه عليه ثم ليضطجع على ‏ ‏شقه ‏ ‏الأيمن ثم ليقل باسمك ربي وضعت جنبي وبك أرفعه إن أمسكت نفسي فارحمها وإن أرسلتها فاحفظها بما تحفظ به عبادك الصالحين ‏


From Abi Hurairah, He said that Rasulullah peace be upon him said " If one of you goes to his Firaash (place of sleep/rest) then let him dust it with the edge of his Izaar For verily he does not know what rested there after him. Then he should rest on his right side and say " Bismika Rabbi Wadha3tu Janbi wa Bika Arfa3uhu, In Amsakta Nafsee Farhamhaa wa In Arsaltahaa Fahfadhhaa Bimaa Tahfadhu Bihi 3ibaaduka As-Saaliheen"


Reading the 3 Quls and wiping over Body

‏عن ‏ ‏عائشة ‏ ‏رضي الله عنها ‏
‏أن النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏كان ‏ ‏إذا أوى إلى فراشه كل ليلة جمع كفيه ثم ‏ ‏نفث ‏ ‏فيهما وقرأ فيهما ‏ ‏قل هو الله أحد ‏ ‏وقل أعوذ برب الفلق ‏ ‏وقل أعوذ برب الناس ‏ ‏ثم يمسح بهما ما استطاع من جسده يبدأ بهما على رأسه ووجهه وما أقبل من جسده يفعل ذلك ثلاث مرات

From Ai'shah May Allah be pleased with her, That Rasulullah peace be upon him, Whenever he went to his Resting place everynight he would bring his hands together and spit into and read on them 'Qul Huwallahu Ahad' and 'Qul a3udhu birabbinnaas' and 'Qul a3udhu birabbil Falaq'. Then he would wipe with his hands all of those parts of his body which he could reach, starting from his head and face and the front of his body. He would do that three times


Placing The Right Hand under the Cheek

‏عن ‏ ‏حفصة زوج النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏
‏أن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏كان ‏ ‏إذا أراد أن يرقد وضع يده اليمنى تحت خده ثم يقول اللهم قني عذابك يوم تبعث عبادك ثلاث مرار ‏


From Hafsah the Wife of Rasulullah peace be upon him, That Whenever Rasulullah wished to sleep he would place his right hand under his cheek then say " O Allah Protect me from Your Punishment on the Day that you Ressurrect your Servants" three times
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Mawaddah
08-04-2006, 02:51 PM
Ok the Next Question is :

What is the Sunnah when conducting an argument/ debate

:)
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-05-2006, 03:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Ok So here are some Sunan for sleeping, I got these from Awnal Ma3bood by the way :D :

Dusting Your BedPlace before sleeping

‏عن ‏ ‏أبي هريرة ‏ ‏قال ‏
‏قال رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏إذا أوى أحدكم إلى فراشه فلينفض فراشه ‏ ‏بداخلة ‏ ‏إزاره فإنه لا يدري ما خلفه عليه ثم ليضطجع على ‏ ‏شقه ‏ ‏الأيمن ثم ليقل باسمك ربي وضعت جنبي وبك أرفعه إن أمسكت نفسي فارحمها وإن أرسلتها فاحفظها بما تحفظ به عبادك الصالحين ‏


From Abi Hurairah, He said that Rasulullah peace be upon him said " If one of you goes to his Firaash (place of sleep/rest) then let him dust it with the edge of his Izaar For verily he does not know what rested there after him. Then he should rest on his right side and say " Bismika Rabbi Wadha3tu Janbi wa Bika Arfa3uhu, In Amsakta Nafsee Farhamhaa wa In Arsaltahaa Fahfadhhaa Bimaa Tahfadhu Bihi 3ibaaduka As-Saaliheen"


Reading the 3 Quls and wiping over Body

‏عن ‏ ‏عائشة ‏ ‏رضي الله عنها ‏
‏أن النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏كان ‏ ‏إذا أوى إلى فراشه كل ليلة جمع كفيه ثم ‏ ‏نفث ‏ ‏فيهما وقرأ فيهما ‏ ‏قل هو الله أحد ‏ ‏وقل أعوذ برب الفلق ‏ ‏وقل أعوذ برب الناس ‏ ‏ثم يمسح بهما ما استطاع من جسده يبدأ بهما على رأسه ووجهه وما أقبل من جسده يفعل ذلك ثلاث مرات

From Ai'shah May Allah be pleased with her, That Rasulullah peace be upon him, Whenever he went to his Resting place everynight he would bring his hands together and spit into and read on them 'Qul Huwallahu Ahad' and 'Qul a3udhu birabbinnaas' and 'Qul a3udhu birabbil Falaq'. Then he would wipe with his hands all of those parts of his body which he could reach, starting from his head and face and the front of his body. He would do that three times


Placing The Right Hand under the Cheek

‏عن ‏ ‏حفصة زوج النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏
‏أن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏كان ‏ ‏إذا أراد أن يرقد وضع يده اليمنى تحت خده ثم يقول اللهم قني عذابك يوم تبعث عبادك ثلاث مرار ‏


From Hafsah the Wife of Rasulullah peace be upon him, That Whenever Rasulullah wished to sleep he would place his right hand under his cheek then say " O Allah Protect me from Your Punishment on the Day that you Ressurrect your Servants" three times
:sl:
- Take wudhu.
- Miswak before go to bed.
- Say dua "Bismika Allahumma amuutu wa ahyaa"
- Dhikr Subhanallah, alhamdulillah, Allahu akbar each of them 33x.
- There are many du'as before going to bed actually.
And sis maw...how can you expect me attach a complete daleels while Im writing in my office :'( Do U want me to bring my maktabah to here? :uhwhat
Ok..ok..I will give daleel as I can...please dont mind. And maybe someone can complete it with daleels :playing:. I wll do better next time thaaaaank you for reminding :X . Jazakumullah khair
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-05-2006, 03:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Ok the Next Question is :

What is the Sunnah when conducting an argument/ debate

:)
:sl:
If you lose in debate and mad then try to sit down, if still mad try to take wudhu, still mad? Then take a bath, still mad...? mmmm take a bath again??? :X :giggling: Long cut short....I dont knoooowww. :offended:
Maybe one of them is like in surah As Shura (42):10 said:"Whatever it be wherein ye differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn.".
I want more answers please about this :heated: curious wanna know.
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umm-sulaim
08-05-2006, 08:11 AM
OK if something doesn't concern you to leave it...(your just being nosy and stuff) hadeeth of the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam: min 7usnil islaamil mar'ee tarkuhu maa la ya3neeh" hassan
from the islamic good of a person is to leave that which doesn't concern him,

To not get angry
narrated by abee hurayra radhiyaAllahu anhhu that a man came to the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam, and said give me counsel, he said "don't get angry" he repeated himself...collected by al bukhaari

To seek refuge from the shaytaan if youare angered
narrated by sulyman bun surad radhiyaAllahu anhu, he said 2 men were swearnig at eachother at the time of the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam, one of them became red in the face and his jugular veins were popping out, the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said: verily i know of words if he says them, would have taken away what his finding (anger), they asked what o messenger of Allah he said: a3uudhu billahi min ashaytaani rajeem,
bukhari and muslim,

not to offend him/hers a3raadh-possesions
Hadeeth Ibnu 3umar or jaabir (i'm not sure) that the rpophet alayhi salaatu assam said " verily your blood is haraam, your wealth is haraam, your a3raaddh-posessions is haraam" agreed upon

Also if you're not sure in something to leave it

hassan the grandson of the prophet mayAllah be pleased with him said: i learnt fro the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam " da3 ma yurebuk ilaa ma laa yureebuk"
leave that which you have doubts in to that which you don't have doubts in,
(hassaan al isnaad)

ok sis this is all i can think of for the mome,

next one inshAllah Sunnah for entering a house

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-05-2006, 08:25 PM
ass salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah,

sunnah for entering the house...(i'm gonna do it quickly now...inshaAllah i'll try best to give the daleel tommrrow..i'm in a rush ;))

entering with your right foot in first...
saying the duaah...
and greeting whosever at home!!!

sorry big Sis!...i don't have time today!!..y'know why!?? :rollseyes:

InshaAllah tommorrow...or else if it's monday..and MeanMaw comes back I'm done for!! :D

wassalaams ppl!! :peace:
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umm-sulaim
08-05-2006, 08:31 PM
HMmmm....Yalla tayyib...asma7 lish....lol!!
i'll be waiting....(aywaaaa)....anyhow khayr inshaAllah....
wassalaam
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-06-2006, 08:47 AM
:sl:
Sunnah entering the house :
Hadith that said if you say bismillah when you enter the house then syaithon will tell their friends that they have no place to life and when you say bismillah when you eat then syaithon will tell their friends that they also have no meal in the house.
Walk in your right foot and say bismillah
May not look to the window if theres anybody inside the house if you visit someone.
If you say salam three timesand theres no reply, then just go home. My ustadh (he had mulazamah with sheikh Uthaymeen) ever told to just go home when he came to the sheikhs house :D Its just all right in arabian country, but in eastern country, its just unpolite :D . But of course as long as its not haram then its ok. and Its the owner of the houses right I think.

Where is akhee Abdmajid nowadays? Hafidhahullah
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umm-sulaim
08-06-2006, 09:02 AM
Ayna daleel ya akhaana!!

I don't know where akhaana Abd'Majid is gone...?

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-06-2006, 09:23 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

Where is akhee Abdmajid nowadays? Hafidhahullah
Allaahu A3lam ppl, probably busy or something :-\wallahul musta3aan...

but it is better to have more participants on this thread, it's like the same ppl going round and round again!!...:heated:

Umm Sulaim...i'm gonna do your question now inshaAllah!!
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amirah_87
08-06-2006, 10:05 AM
Ass salaamu alaykum,

Sunnah Upon Entering A House!!:

It is sunnah (if your visiting a house other than yours) to stand on either the right or left hand side of the entrance

Narrated Abdulllahi ibn Busr radiyallaahu 3anhu that if the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallaam were to come to/ approach a door 9entrance of someones house) he would stand either on the right or left hand side of ituntil he was granted permission to enter, If not the would leave...(Hadeeth Hasnun Saheeh).

It is also important to ask permision before entering

The hadeeth above cearly proves that..

& an athar narrated by 3ataa ibn rabaah he said I asked Ibn Abbaas radiyallaahu 3anhu Do i have to seek permission from my sister?
he said: yes! , I said:There are two of my sisters whom live with me I provide for them, Do I have to seek their permission? He said: Yes!! would you like it if you were to see them naked!!??..and then he recited qawluhuu ta3aalaa: Ya ayyuhal latheena aamanuu layasta'hinkum al-latheena malakat aymaanukum UNTIL .......Thalaathu 3awraatin
He said:And they were'nt commanded to seek permission ONLY in these three times (thaalaathu 3awraat) ...
He then recited: "Wa idhaa balaghal adfaalu minkum al-hulm..."
Ibnu Abbaas said: seeking permission is Obligatory!!
and ibnu Jurayj added: on every single one of man kind!!

AND.... hadeeth Kaldah Ibn Hanbal that he entered upon the Prophet with some food (laban, jidaayah, and dhaghaabees) I did not give salaams , nor did I ask for permission So He said: Go back & say : Assalaamu alaykum, May I enter??

It is also sunnah to knock with your adhaafeer/Fingernails

Narrated Abas ibnu Maalik: The doors of the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam were kocked with the adhaafeer/fingernails!!

Also one must give Salaams:

Hadeeth Kaldah as mentioned above that he told him to go back and say : Assalaamu alaykum, May I enter!!??

and an athar by 3ataa , he said: I heard Abu huraira say: If he says (the person at the door) may i enter & does'nt give salaams say: No!!...until you come with the keys , Isaid: As-salaam, He said : Yeah!!....(Saheeh)

It is also Disliked to answer ...(when said : who is it!!??) IT 'S ME!!

Muhammed ibnul Munkadirsaid: I heard Jaabir ibnu Abdillah say: I went to the prophet in regards of some debt that was on my Father, I knocked on the door, He (the Prophet salalaaahu 3alayhi wasalaam) said: who is it? , I replied: Me/it's me! , He said: ME!!...........ME!????? ..I was under the impression that he disliked it!!

It is also important for one to have Dhikr Allah before entering the house..(eg: Basmalah..etc)

Jaabir ibnu Abdillah radiyallahu 3anhu sad , he heard the Prophet salalaaahu 3alayhi wasalaam sal:
If a man enters his house with the rememerance of Allah azza wa jall and does so when he's eating (his supper), the shaytaan says: there is no shelter for you tonight nor any supper. and if he enters and does not have his remembrance whilst eating..the sahytaan says: you have reached your over night shelter/stop ....& if he does not remember Allah with hisfood: the saytaan says you have obtained your shelter and your supper!!....(Bukhari and Muslim)

that's it inshaAllah....:)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-06-2006, 10:48 AM
mashAllah, can we have a next question. I have been stayin away due to work but now i think i can answer a question inshaAllah :)
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amirah_87
08-06-2006, 10:53 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

okay akhee, welcome back!! :thumbs_up

I dunno if this has been done before...:peace:

"Sunnah of treating your elders!!??"

wassalaams
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-06-2006, 10:56 AM
thats a hard one, give me time inshaAllah.

thats basically askin how to treat mother/father elder brother/sister, elder stranger, thats a lot :eek:
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amirah_87
08-06-2006, 11:00 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

hey, you don't have to do one for each and every single one!!...

if you know of a hadeeth that's general in it's terms to this!!..than that's okay...

but if you wanna do that extra bit!!...tafaddhal!!...(your welcome) :)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-06-2006, 11:21 AM
Attitude Towards Elders


Every young man should show respect and kindness to those elder and more intelligent then them.

Anas reported that the Messenger of Allah saws said: if a young man shows honour to an old man on account of his age, Allah will create for him at his old age someone who will show him honour.
-Tirmidhi
We should also show respect and honour to the hafiz

Abu Musa reported that the Messenger of Allah saws said: Of the florifications of Allah, certainly it is the honour shown to an old Muslim, the bearer of the Quran (by heart) without treachery therein and keeping aloof from it; and the honour shown to a just king.
-Abu Dawud
Do not stand up for an elder if they dislike it

Anas reported: No man was more beloved to them (companions) then the Messenger of Allah. Whenever they saw him, they did not stand up on account of him disliking it.

^^ This disliking was on account fo the modesty of the Holy Prophet. This is an object-lesson to all our leaders The followers should however show honour by standing. This is not prohibited.

The Messenger of Allah did not dissapprove of touching feet and kissing hands of elders and the intelligent elders.

Ja'reer while he was in the deputation of Abdul Qais (tribe) reported: When we reached Medina and began to alight hastily from our saddle, we kissed the hand of the Messenger of Allah and his foot
-Abu Dawud

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amirah_87
08-06-2006, 11:25 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

MashaAllah!! :thumbs_up

restricting the tongue...from backbiting and all...is that what you mean "Hifdh al-lisaan"...Preserving the tongue:?:?
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-06-2006, 12:15 PM
^ basically how can we restrict and guard the tongue to avoid hell :)
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-06-2006, 01:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mazed
Attitude Towards Elders


Every young man should show respect and kindness to those elder and more intelligent then them.



We should also show respect and honour to the hafiz



Do not stand up for an elder if they dislike it




^^ This disliking was on account fo the modesty of the Holy Prophet. This is an object-lesson to all our leaders The followers should however show honour by standing. This is not prohibited.

The Messenger of Allah did not dissapprove of touching feet and kissing hands of elders and the intelligent elders.


Next: What is the sunnah of restricting the tongue?
:sl:
Bro about standing to people, I ever learn this is harm to stand to honor someone ALTHOUGH if the elder like it :rollseyes . See..theres hadith that sahabah almost standing to welcome Rasulullah, and ten Rasulullah stopped them from doing so, and he said " you almost do something that Jews Did to welcome theor kings", corrct me if Im wrong. BUT if you stand to welcome (example:) the sheikh and guide him to his chair, or standing to show him the door if he wana go home from one majlis then its ok.
And also the hadith you used above thats doesnt mean if Rasulullah liked it then the companions may standing to welcome him right? Cause in another hadith Rasulullah warn sahabah to not welcome him in such way. Allahu A'lam. Plleeeeeease Correct me if Im wrong then insha Allah
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-06-2006, 01:11 PM
Brother you are correct. That is what i meant when i stated:

^^ This disliking was on account fo the modesty of the Holy Prophet. This is an object-lesson to all our leaders The followers should however show honour by standing. This is not prohibited.

Forgive me for not being clear inshaAllah :)



Next question is:


Next: What is the sunnah of restricting the tongue?
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umm-sulaim
08-06-2006, 10:07 PM
sunnah of restricting the tongue

saying that which is good
hadeeth abee hurayra may Allah be pleased with him that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "whoever beleives in Allah and the last day should say that which is good or be silent"
being responsible for your tongue
ok i have a hadeeth but i don't remeber the sa7aabi or the takhreej, but i'm positive its sa7ee7 when the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said, who will take responsibilty for whats between their jaws...
(if anyone can remeber please help out)
"man yadhman lee ma bayna li7yatayh..."

ok and hadeeth that the prophet asked his companions what will make people enter the hell fire most, then he held his tongue and said this (tongue)

i'm really sorry for not bringing the sa7aabi and the takhreej, (help us out plz)

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-07-2006, 01:53 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
:sl:
Bro about standing to people, I ever learn this is harm to stand to honor someone ALTHOUGH if the elder like it :rollseyes . See..theres hadith that sahabah almost standing to welcome Rasulullah, and ten Rasulullah stopped them from doing so, and he said " you almost do something that Jews Did to welcome theor kings", corrct me if Im wrong. BUT if you stand to welcome (example:) the sheikh and guide him to his chair, or standing to show him the door if he wana go home from one majlis then its ok.
And also the hadith you used above thats doesnt mean if Rasulullah liked it then the companions may standing to welcome him right? Cause in another hadith Rasulullah warn sahabah to not welcome him in such way. Allahu A'lam. Plleeeeeease Correct me if Im wrong then insha Allah
Assalamu'alaikum Brother, I was listening to a tape by Sheikh al-Albani rahimahullah and he said that it is allowed in certain cases like for example in certain cultures when someone comes in then we stand up to greet them etc.......and to make them feel welcome. I have to go back and check some more on this though insha'allah........ :) By the way, it's nice to see you active in the thread again alhamdulillah :)
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Mawaddah
08-07-2006, 01:57 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
sunnah of restricting the tongue

saying that which is good
hadeeth abee hurayra may Allah be pleased with him that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "whoever beleives in Allah and the last day should say that which is good or be silent"
being responsible for your tongue
ok i have a hadeeth but i don't remeber the sa7aabi or the takhreej, but i'm positive its sa7ee7 when the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said, who will take responsibilty for whats between their jaws...
(if anyone can remeber please help out)
"man yadhman lee ma bayna li7yatayh..."

ok and hadeeth that the prophet asked his companions what will make people enter the hell fire most, then he held his tongue and said this (tongue)

i'm really sorry for not bringing the sa7aabi and the takhreej, (help us out plz)

wassalaam
Hmmm....I'm sorry I can't help about the sa7aabi, I'm bad at names :X

Also it comes to mind, the hadeeth in which Rasulullah gave the Eid khutbah to the ladies and then said " And Give Sadaqah, for verily you are from the majority of the inhabitants of hellfire" So he was asked why? and he said " Because you Complain frequently, and because you are Ungrateful towards your husbands, if you see one thing you do not like from him you say ' I have never seen good from you!"

I'm in a hurry right now so sorry I can't contribute more :( but next Question :

What is the Sunnah/etiquettes of Dressing?
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-07-2006, 06:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Hmmm....I'm sorry I can't help about the sa7aabi, I'm bad at names :X

Also it comes to mind, the hadeeth in which Rasulullah gave the Eid khutbah to the ladies and then said " And Give Sadaqah, for verily you are from the majority of the inhabitants of hellfire" So he was asked why? and he said " Because you Complain frequently, and because you are Ungrateful towards your husbands, if you see one thing you do not like from him you say ' I have never seen good from you!"

I'm in a hurry right now so sorry I can't contribute more :( but next Question :

What is the Sunnah/etiquettes of Dressing?
:sl:
Yes, right that the wonderful hadith to take a lesson from, masha Allah. Thats a lesson for you girls if you marry one day. Eventhough your husbands just can give you a little bit of dunya then you should see thats a lof ot people who is not s lucky as you, still have many to be gratefull:Alhumdill . And then if you see something from your husband that you dont like then please remember to not say that kinda word ("I have never seen good from you") or someting which have similar meaning as this cause its like kufur ni'mat to ur husband, little piece of advices from your poor akhi ladies :beard: .
So etiquettes of dressing, let me think....I wanna asnwer but I dont know the hadith exactly. Let me do my research first :rollseyes You guys makes me bring a lot of books to my office :grumbling . I am worry if theres someone who wanna borrow my books, cause in here sometimes borrowing means having it :D Cause sometimes they just dont give it back :cry: .
By the way...akhee Abdmajid where do U work?What kinda company? Where do U life? my company will send me to London in october insha Allah :cry: I dont want to, but its my father who own the company :yawn: So I have to go I think. I will try to say no first instead insha Allah. But if I see many/some ikhwan there then it can heal my sadness a little bit right insha Allah
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-07-2006, 07:09 AM
Okaay...Here it is insha Allah:

1. Narated by Abu Sa'id Al Khudri he said: Verily when Rasulullah shalallahu alaihi wasallam wearing new clothes or new thurban, or new jubah or new cloth, He will say asma Allah and then He read:"Allahumma lakalhamdu anta kasautaniihi, asaluka khairahu wa khaira maa shuni'a lahuu, wa a'udhubika min syarri wa syarri maa shuni'a lahuu". (Sunan Abu Dawud in Al libaas and sunan Tirmidhi)

2. And we put our right hands first into the clothes and then our left hand if we wanna wear our clothes. And if we wanna put it off then we start with our left hand and then our right hand. The daleel doesnt exist in my memory or my books :rollseyes . please someone help.

3. Its haram for men to wear pants/jubah/saroong to the ground or more than their ankle (isbal). Rasulullah said:"Everything which below your ankle then hell is its place" (HR. Bukhari)
Also narated by Abu Dzar that Rasulullah said:"There are three kind of people who will not talk with Allah, Allah will not see to them, and also Alah will not purified them, and then they will have suffering tortures......(one of them is) men who is isbal". (HR. Muslim)

4. Its ahsan for women to wear dark colours so they wont be eyecatching to men.

Im wondering is this enough :) , if theres someone who wanna add more answer about sunnah in dressing then its better so we can know maybe theres something that we dont know about something. And it should be done in every questions insha Allah, what do U think guys? So if my answers not complete then I hope theres someone who will complete it so it can be more manfaat, insha Allah
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-07-2006, 07:12 AM
Next question:
"Tell me the sunnah in wearing our sandals in which occasion?, how should we wearing it? What kinda sandal that allowed to men and women? And daleels insha Allah." :brother:
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umm-sulaim
08-07-2006, 08:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Hmmm....I'm sorry I can't help about the sa7aabi, I'm bad at names :X

Also it comes to mind, the hadeeth in which Rasulullah gave the Eid khutbah to the ladies and then said " And Give Sadaqah, for verily you are from the majority of the inhabitants of hellfire" So he was asked why? and he said " Because you Complain frequently, and because you are Ungrateful towards your husbands, if you see one thing you do not like from him you say ' I have never seen good from you!"

I'm in a hurry right now so sorry I can't contribute more :( but next Question :

What is the Sunnah/etiquettes of Dressing?

thanks for your faa'idah adik, baarakaAllahu feeki, BTW i been writing so many sentences lol...
be prepared,
wassalaam
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umm-sulaim
08-07-2006, 09:13 AM
Thanks for your advise akhee, may Allah reward you...
your questions quite tough so i have to look at some books inshaAllah it might take a while but by then perhaps someone might've already answered,

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-07-2006, 10:01 AM
ass salaamu alaykum,

Thats a lesson for you girls if you marry one day. Eventhough your husbands just can give you a little bit of dunya then you should see thats a lof ot people who is not s lucky as you, still have many to be gratefull . And then if you see something from your husband that you dont like then please remember to not say that kinda word ("I have never seen good from you") or someting which have similar meaning as this cause its like kufur ni'mat to ur husband, little piece of advices from your poor akhi ladies .
JazaakAllahu khayr for the advice...BarakAllahu feek!!

You guys makes me bring a lot of books to my office . I am worry if theres someone who wanna borrow my books, cause in here sometimes borrowing means having it Cause sometimes they just dont give it back .
By the way...akhee Abdmajid where do U work?What kinda company? Where do U life? my company will send me to London in october insha Allah I dont want to, but its my father who own the company So I have to go I think. I will try to say no first instead insha Allah. But if I see many/some ikhwan there then it can heal my sadness a little bit right insha Allah
:ooh:Your Coming to london!!!...May Allah help you akhee!! :heated: Allah ma3ak inshaAllah!!

Next question:
"Tell me the sunnah in wearing our sandals in which occasion?, how should we wearing it? What kinda sandal that allowed to men and women? And daleels insha Allah."
This questions a lil bit hard!!...i don't think i've heard anything like this before regarding what kind of sandals should be worn..wallaahul musta3aan!!...I'll try to do som research though inshaAllah!! :peace:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-07-2006, 10:04 AM
:sl:
Ooh there are no hadith concern what kinda of sandals do we have to wear, but its fatawa of ulama, that there are sandal for men and for women. So Im waiting for the answer insha Allah. I will see it tomorrow insha Allah, if Im still alive :cry: :sl:
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amirah_87
08-07-2006, 10:07 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

okay!!...thanks for clearing that!!.. "it's a shame I don't have majmuu3 al-fatwaa li shayk al-islaam!!"...:'(

Allahul Musta3aan!
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-07-2006, 10:23 AM
Hints: On graveyard, on masjid, and all?
Gotta go now...and see your all answers tomorrow insha Allah.
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amirah_87
08-07-2006, 10:35 AM
as salaamu aalykum,

that's one of the only hadeeth i had in mind when the prophet saw that sahaabah walkin' on the graves with his shoes he said: yaa saahib as-sibtiyyaytayn ilqi sibtiyyataky.....oh ye with the sibtiiyatayn (& i think these shoes were made from leather or something) take them off!!

i also had in mind another hadeeth that says we should'nt keep one shoe on whilst the other's off and walk around like that for verily those are the actions of the shaytaan!!!...

those were the only two ahaadeeth I had in mind that have "shoes" in them!!

but it does'nt really answer your question because yours is:
what kinda of sandals do we have to wear
..wallahu a3lam!!
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sameer
08-07-2006, 03:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen


3. Its haram for men to wear pants/jubah/saroong to the ground or more than their ankle (isbal). Rasulullah said:"Everything which below your ankle then hell is its place" (HR. Bukhari)


No offense bro, but Ive found that a lot of ppl quote this hadith : Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 678 .Narrated By Abu Huraira : The Prophet said, "The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." and tell ppl that if ure clothes are below ure ankle then it is in the hell fire, but they donnot quote the hadiths just b4 it which specifies that if the clothes are worn below the ankle out of conciet (as done by the ppl of Jahiliyah at that time), then it is in the hell fire. So it is not Haram to wear ure clothes below ure ankle unless if u wear it out of conciet.

Sahih Bukhari :

Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 675.
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Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : The Prophet said Allah will not look, on the Day of on who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit. On that Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle! One side of my Izar hangs low if I do not take care of it." The Prophet said, 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit."

Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 674.
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Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : Allah's Apostle said, 'Allah will not look at the person who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit."
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sameer
08-07-2006, 03:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
Next question:
"Tell me the sunnah in wearing our sandals in which occasion?, how should we wearing it? What kinda sandal that allowed to men and women? And daleels insha Allah." :brother:
This is what i can find on sandals

Sahih Bukhari:
Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 748.
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Narated By Anas : The sandal of the Prophet had two straps.


Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 749.
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Narated By Isaa bin Tahman : Anas bin Malik brought out for us, two sandals having two straps. Thabit Al-Banani said, "These were the sandals of the Prophet."
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-08-2006, 01:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Assalamu'alaikum Brother, I was listening to a tape by Sheikh al-Albani rahimahullah and he said that it is allowed in certain cases like for example in certain cultures when someone comes in then we stand up to greet them etc.......and to make them feel welcome. I have to go back and check some more on this though insha'allah........ :) By the way, it's nice to see you active in the thread again alhamdulillah :)
:sl:
Yes right ukhtee, I heard about this explanation too, but maybe its not everybody who should stood up to welcome the guess, just maybe the owner of the house who should standing and the rest still just sit and no need to stand up too. Maybe its what it means in the hadith Allahu A'lam. Example there are 50 people in a house, and when someone come then maybe some people who is the owner or the house and his family who should stand up and not all of these 50 people, thats what I mean. Whats the tape said about it? Please lengthen your explanation. Jazakillah khair
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-08-2006, 02:26 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
No offense bro, but Ive found that a lot of ppl quote this hadith : Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 678 .Narrated By Abu Huraira : The Prophet said, "The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." and tell ppl that if ure clothes are below ure ankle then it is in the hell fire, but they donnot quote the hadiths just b4 it which specifies that if the clothes are worn below the ankle out of conciet (as done by the ppl of Jahiliyah at that time), then it is in the hell fire. So it is not Haram to wear ure clothes below ure ankle unless if u wear it out of conciet.


Sahih Bukhari :

Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 675.
-----------------------------------------
Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : The Prophet said Allah will not look, on the Day of on who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit. On that Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle! One side of my Izar hangs low if I do not take care of it." The Prophet said, 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit."

Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 674.
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Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : Allah's Apostle said, 'Allah will not look at the person who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit."

:sl:
:) No offence at all bro, jazakallah khair for joining us in this thread, I hope we all can take so much manfaat in here insha Allah.
So akheel kareem about the hadith :
Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : The Prophet said Allah will not look, on the Day of on who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit. On that Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle! One side of my Izar hangs low if I do not take care of it." The Prophet said, 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit."

Akhee, We should know that this not mean we may wear our clothes under our ankle yaa akhee, cause this is uzuur that Abu Bakr had. And this is happened to Abu Bakr was not because he wanted to wear his clothes under his ankle cause the hukm is clear about it, but it was just sometimes his clothes descent by it self without his realization, cause he was a thin man you see. If you read the history about khulafaa ar rasyideen (in bidayah wan nihayah by Ibn Katheer, or fit tamyiz ash sahabah by ibn Hajar, and another history book by ulama salaf) then you will know his characteristic and his appearance. Abu Bakr was a man with a lovely face, and he was a thin man till his eyes deep into the skull. So its his uzuur, and Rasulullah knew about this so thats why he said:" 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit." And its Rasulullahs witness to Abu Bakr, so who witness the muslims today who do isbal?Abu Bakr is Ash Shiddiqul akbar whose iman so strong and he was the one who had the strongest iman amongth the sahabah even amongth all muslims till yaumul qiyamah, and who are we so we can use this hadith as if we have the same level as Abu Bakr to make isbal allowed? :brother: Still according to another hadith that its muthlaq isbal is haram to men but Muslims who have the same uzuur as Abu Bakr then they may use this daleel, but still they have to try first so his clothes wont go below his ankle.

So, the general hukm about this matter (Isbal) is muthlaq haram according hadith : "
"The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." (HR. Bukhari). And IF we say that we may do isbal as long as we are not conceit, then Rasulullah told us that isbal it self is one conceit to Allah, as he -shalallahualaihi wasallam- said:"Dont do isbal cause isbal is a conceit". (Narated by Jabir bin Sulaim, HR Bukhari).

So our ulama explained IF someone do isbal without a conceit in his heart then he is threatened by hadith:"The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." And IF he do it with a conceit in his heart then his sins is even bigger and he is threatened by the hadith: "The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." and also PLUS the hadith :"Whoever did isbal with his clothes because of conceit, then Allah will not look at him in yaumul qiyamah". So muslims who do isbal with a conceit then his sins is even more bigger cause he combine big sins (Isbal) and a conceit. And the hadith to Abu Bakr Ash Shiddiq only work to someone who have the same uzuur as Abu Bakr had.

And also there hadith that said in the time before Rasulullah there was a man who walk around with his clothes isbal all over the place, and he was so conceit. Cause those times it was said longer the pants then its explained the social status that they have. And then Allah drown that man into the earth, and he is still moving (alive) till yaumul qiyamah. So isbal is an action of a conceit, and isbal is forbidden because its safer for our clothes and cleaner, and also by not doing isbal we have made our selfdont looklike a woman, cause women wajiib isbal but men haram to do isbal. And Rasulullah said "Allah will curse men who dress like women and women who dress like men". What do you think if we do isbal and then when we walk without we realize our pants touch something najis and then we do salaat with that kinda pants, and Rasulullah ever explained about two muslims who was tortured in the grave cause he did salaat with najiis on his clothes cause he was careless to be aware of it. So theres no different then if we do isbal, then we will be tortured also cause we are careless with our clothes. And theres nothing hard insha Allah to not isbal cause Islam is easy abd beautiful, masha Allah.

Naam, this is what sheikh Abdulaziz bin Bazz rahimahullah explained in his fatawa.

Im sorry for my long explanation, I hope its manfaat insha Allah.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-08-2006, 03:37 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu aalykum,

that's one of the only hadeeth i had in mind when the prophet saw that sahaabah walkin' on the graves with his shoes he said: yaa saahib as-sibtiyyaytayn ilqi sibtiyyataky.....oh ye with the sibtiiyatayn (& i think these shoes were made from leather or something) take them off!!

i also had in mind another hadeeth that says we should'nt keep one shoe on whilst the other's off and walk around like that for verily those are the actions of the shaytaan!!!...

those were the only two ahaadeeth I had in mind that have "shoes" in them!!

but it does'nt really answer your question because yours is: ..wallahu a3lam!!
Sameer wrote:
This is what i can find on sandals

Sahih Bukhari:
Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 748.
-----------------------------------------
Narated By Anas : The sandal of the Prophet had two straps.


Volumn 007, Book 072, Hadith Number 749.
-----------------------------------------
Narated By Isaa bin Tahman : Anas bin Malik brought out for us, two sandals having two straps. Thabit Al-Banani said, "These were the sandals of the Prophet."
:sl:
Right masha Allah, :)
And also hadith that we should walk without sandal sometimes, hadith from Abdullah bin Buraidah that someone from sahabah met Fudhalah bin Ubeid and then that man asked "Why your hair so messy, isnt youre the amir of this country?" and then Fudhalah asnwered:"Veriily Rasulullah forbid us to do something with grandeur". and then Fudhalah asked him "Why you dont wear your sandals?" and then he replied "Rasulullah asked us to walk without sandals sometimes". (Sunan Abu Dawud in kitab Tarajjul and musnad Ahmad).

Also its sunnah to salaat with our sandals if yo sure that the sandal is clean:
- Narated by Anas bin Malik Radhiallahu anhu, we was asked:"Did Rasulullah ever salaat with his sandal on?", Anas said:"Yes he had". (Sunan An Nasaai)
-Narated by Abu Said Al Khudri he said:"when Rasulullah did salaat with his companions, suddenly he took off his sandals and put it to his left side. When the companions saw that, then they also did the same thing. And when Rasulullah saw the companions did that, after salaat Rasulullah said:"What reason you took off your sandal?", and they asnwered:"cause we saw you also took off your sandal, so we also took of our sandals. Then Rasulullah said:"Verily Jibreel came to me and told me that there was najis (adzaa) on my sandals". And then he -shalallahu alaihi wasallam- said:"If someone of you come to masjid then he should check his sandal first. If he saw theres najis then he should clean them first and then salaat wearing it".

And also we wear our sandal from our right foot first and take it off from our left foot first according hadith from Abu Hurairah. Allahu a'lam.

SO...I think its bro Sameer turn who ask the question :brother:, and If he take too long then maybe anybody :D insha Allah
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-08-2006, 03:43 AM
:sl:
Ooh I forget about what kinda sandal women and men should wear. I ever read fatawa about this and according to hadith that bro Sameer quoted above that sandals of men which have strips, so women may not wearing sandals which have strips. So sandal for women is which has....how to explain it yeee? I dont know how to call it :D . I will takl malay then and I hope maybe sis Maw can explain ;D Shes the one who is malay here right, ooh and sis Bawal maybe :) . (Isnt it bawal name of a fish?:rollseyes And its taste good if its baked). So sandal for women ya'ni sandal yang tak ade jepitnye pade ibu jari di kaki. Jadi sandal for women punye somekinda kain dari kiri ke kanan sandal above the feet/feets fingers. Got it tak? :rollseyes . I dont remember where and whose fatawa I read, but if Im not mistaken its fatawa lajnah daimah lil aftaa. Please correct me if Im wrong, insha Allah.
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 11:30 AM
As salaamu alaykum,

ooh and sis Bawal maybe
Her name is Nawal!!... ;D ;D not bawal :heated:


you don't remember the fatwa :ooh: Allahu Musta3aan!!
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Mawaddah
08-08-2006, 12:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
:sl:
Ooh I forget about what kinda sandal women and men should wear. I ever read fatawa about this and according to hadith that bro Sameer quoted above that sandals of men which have strips, so women may not wearing sandals which have strips. So sandal for women is which has....how to explain it yeee? I dont know how to call it :D . I will takl malay then and I hope maybe sis Maw can explain ;D Shes the one who is malay here right, ooh and sis Bawal maybe :) . (Isnt it bawal name of a fish?:rollseyes And its taste good if its baked). So sandal for women ya'ni sandal yang tak ade jepitnye pade ibu jari di kaki. Jadi sandal for women punye somekinda kain dari kiri ke kanan sandal above the feet/feets fingers. Got it tak? :rollseyes . I dont remember where and whose fatawa I read, but if Im not mistaken its fatawa lajnah daimah lil aftaa. Please correct me if Im wrong, insha Allah.
:lol: :haha: it's NAWAL not BAWAL ;D ;D

You seem to like to eat eh Akhi? until you even mention that this fish tastes good if it's baked lol :D and the other day you said that the talk of food was making you hungry.....lol...

So.....from what I understand of what you're saying, is that women cannot wear Thongs is it? You know the kind of slippers which they call Thongs right Princess :rollseyes I mean that kind of thong ..... just in case you're thinking something else.....Flip flops ya know....

And women slippers are the kind which just have one strap over the feet?

Oh Dear.......and I love my flip flops:offended:

And this is the first time I ever heard that there was a different type of sandal for women and men? :eek: really? because I wear every type of sandal you can think of :X The strap has to be a certain way for women? oh wow..........in Fatwa allajnah Ad-Daaimah you said? I will check it the next time I go to the masjid then INsha'allah.

Or you know what? why dont you post up a picture here Akhi so that we can really see what you're talking about Insha'allah............

Ok so I"ll take the next Question then :

What is the Sunnah in the wearing of the 3imaamah (Turban)
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 05:06 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

So.....from what I understand of what you're saying, is that women cannot wear Thongs is it? You know the kind of slippers which they call Thongs right Princess I mean that kind of thong ..... just in case you're thinking something else.....Flip flops ya know....
Hmmmmm....thongy flip flops, i think I know what your talkin' about Sis!!.. :?:?
so women are not allowed to wear that now or something hunh??.....maa adhunn maan!!... :heated: mun qaala bihaadhaa!!...:?

nabqaa 3alaa al-baraa'ah al-asliyyah inshaAllah!! .right!!
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Mawaddah
08-08-2006, 07:29 PM
^ That's what I was thinking too man Princess!! In all my 5 years in Dammaj and all those women flapping around with Flip Flops I've never heard Sheikh Muqbil (rahimahullah) Or Sheikh Yahya or Sheikh Abdurrahmaan al 3adani (hafidhahumallah) say anything about Tahreem of them for women!!

But like I said, maybe I was misunderstanding what the Brother said.

Wa laakin al asl fee kulli Shay al hill hatta ya'tee Daleel yukhaalifu Dhaalik!!
(The origin of everything is halal until a Daleel comes opposite of that )

So we're eagerly awaiting your reply Brother Dhul Qarnaeen :)

So back to the Question right!!

What was the PRophets Sunnah in wearing the Imaamah/Turban?
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 07:35 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Saheeh, No I don't think that it isn't permissable wallahu a3lam!!

that's ....no!!! :heated: uh uh!! :heated:

law kaana dhalik la'stankarathuu al-3ulamaah...right!!??

hey maw!1...unduriy ilaa 3adad al-postaat haqee, ana atakallam katheer am maadha!?? ;D :X
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Mawaddah
08-08-2006, 07:50 PM
فصل ( فيما يتعلق بالنعال ) يكره للرجل والمرأة لباس النعال الصرارة نص عليه وقال لا بأس أن تلبس للوضوء . وقال له المروذي أمروني في المنزل أن أشتري نعلا سنديا لصبية فقال لا تشتر فقلت تكرهه للنساء والصبيان ؟ قال : نعم أكرهه وقال : إن كان للمخرج والطين فأرجو ، أما من أراد الزينة فلا . وقال عن شخص لبسها يتشبه بأولاد الملوك ، وقال في رواية صالح إذا كان الوضوء فأرجو ، وأما للزينة فأكرهه للرجال والنساء . وكرهه أيضا في رواية محمد بن أبي حرب وقال إن كان للكنيف والوضوء وأكره الصرار وقال من زي العجم وروى أبو بكر الآجري من أصحابنا في كتاب اللباس بإسناده عن ابن عمر رضي الله عنهما أنه كان يلبس النعال السبتية ويتوضأ فيها ويذكر أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم كان يفعل ذلك ورواه أبو داود والنسائي وغيرهما وأظنه في الصحيحين أو أحدهما قال وكيع السبتية التي لا شعر فيها . وحكى ابن الجوزي عن ابن عقيل تحريم الصرير في المداس ويحتمله كلام أحمد . ويسن أن يكون الخف أحمر ويجوز أسود . ويروى عن يحيى بن أبي كثير أنه قال النعل السوداء تورث الهم وأظن القاضي ذكره في كتاب اللباس فيؤخذ منه الكراهة ويسن أن يكون النعل سبتيا أصفر وهو ما ليس عليه شعر . وروى أبو محمد الخلال عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما قال من لبس نعلا صفراء لم يزل ينظر في سرور ، ثم قرأ { صفراء فاقع لونها تسر الناظرين } قال في الرعاية ويباح المشي في قبقاب خشب وقيل مع الحاجة . وذكر ابن تميم أن أحمد رحمه الله قال : لا بأس بالخشب أن يمشى فيه إن كان حاجة ونقلت من مسائل حرب عن أحمد أنه قيل له فالنعل من الخشب قال لا بأس بها إذا كان موضع ضرورة .

This is some Fawaa'id which I got concerning Shoes :D But as far as I can see it does not say anything concerning shoes with straps or shoes without straps. I'll just post some of the points it makes :
كره للرجل والمرأة لباس النعال الصرارة
It is Disliked for a man or a woman to wear Shoes which makes loud noises.

ابن عمر رضي الله عنهما أنه كان يلبس النعال السبتية ويتوضأ فيها ويذكر أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم كان يفعل ذلك

Ibn Umar Used to wear Shoes of the Sibtiyyah type(tanned leather) and he used to mention that Rasulullah used to wear Shoes like that.

ويسن أن يكون الخف أحمر ويجوز أسود
It's Sunnah for the Khuff To be red, but if it's Black thats also ok.


عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما قال من لبس نعلا صفراء لم يزل ينظر في سرور ، ثم قرأ { صفراء فاقع لونها تسر الناظرين }
Ibn Abbas said " Whoever wears shoes of a yellow color than he shall be looked at in a pleasing way" and then he recited the Verse in surah Baqarah "It is a bright yellow color and pleasing to look at "

But still Allahu A3lam about the other one which Brother Dhul is talking about :?
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Mawaddah
08-08-2006, 07:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

Saheeh, No I don't think that it isn't permissable wallahu a3lam!!

that's ....no!!! :heated: uh uh!! :heated:

law kaana dhalik la'stankarathuu al-3ulamaah...right!!??

hey maw!1...unduriy ilaa 3adad al-postaat haqee, ana atakallam katheer am maadha!?? ;D :X
:lol: at 'al-postaat' ;D ;D Kayf ta3refeen annaha kalimah mu2annathah? ;D ;D

Lakin WALLAH Ta3ajjabt!! Kayf aysh maalaki ya bint?? Ana kuntu huna 3iddat shuhoor qablik laakin al-postaat haqqi faqat tablugh an-nisf min haqqik :giggling:

you're a yappy mouth :p

SO ANSWER MY QUESTION ON THE IMAAMAH!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 07:55 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Hmmmm..that's nice faaidah!..which book was it taken from maw!!??

I did'nt know about the dislikin' of the men wearin' starpped shoes!! Allahul musta3aan!! :?
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Mawaddah
08-08-2006, 07:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

Hmmmm..that's nice faaidah!..which book was it taken from maw!!??

I did'nt know about the dislikin' of the men wearin' starpped shoes!! Allahul musta3aan!! :?
الصرارة means strapped shoes Princess? :? I thought الصرارة Meant like shoes which go clickety clack when you wear them........ :D

And I dunno who's the author, but the book is called " Al-aadaab ash-Shar3iyyah" from that website you gave me :?
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 08:00 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

LOL!!...laa taskharee bii man!!...mumkin li'aniy an ajlis hunaa dawl al-yawm wal-layl :p..

do i chat khara or sumthing!!.. :lol:

I know hatta ana ta3ajjabt ana fii al-mahal ar-raabi3 3ashar fi al-forum!! ;D;D

wa sue...al-postaat ( jam3 mu'annath cause it ends witha taa innit)
haqaahaa yabluq al-alf!!..wa hiya hunaa 3 asaabi3 or sumthing ;D ;D

ma astadii3 ijaabat su'aalik al-yawm, 3afwan ya ukhti, hafsa tubugg me li tadla3 3alaa an-net!!...

fee maa ba3d inshaAllah!!
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 08:03 PM
al-aadab ash-shar3iyyah!!....aaaah the Author is ibn Mulaqqin!..I remember when we were studying al-adab al-mufrad, umm salamah also used to come with qnotes from there!! ...

thanx..i'll go check it out inshaAllah!! ;)

...oh thanx for the siraarah :D

khalaas i'm out for the day!!..as salaamu alaykum sis!!..you take care inshaAllah!! ;) ;)
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Mawaddah
08-08-2006, 08:06 PM
[PIE]:lol: OMG Princess your posts just kill me!! 'ta-bugg' and all this other Arab/English words ;D
Tayyib Ya Kaslaanah, idhaa ma turideen al ijaabah 3ala su2aalee ana aydhan sa aget lost min huna ;D ;D
Khalli al-Akh Dhull lamma Yajee yujeeb 3ala as-Su2aal.....Mudhik huwa sah? ;D[/PIE]
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amirah_87
08-08-2006, 08:11 PM
LOOOL!! ;D;D @ sa aget lost..i should say...yalla gettiy lost ;D;D :lol:

khalleeny wa bess lastuu kaslaa!!..as-salaat (maghrib) khayrun min algargara!! ;D ;D :p

yeah inshaAllah nukhalliy dhul yugaawib! ...su'aalahuu sah!!...inshaAllah saya'tiy bil faaidah allathee wa3adanaa!! :D

khalaas sakteh...laqad hijacknaa ath-thread haqqahuu ;D ;D ;D :lol:

as salaamu alaykum Maw *i'm crackin up so bad hear ;D*
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-09-2006, 02:33 AM
:w:
Please dont take my explanation till I have the fatawa with me. I dont remember which books? :omg: Im searching on it. Meanwhile just forget about the sandal for men and women :thumbs_up . Sorry mohon maklum yee :D .
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umm-sulaim
08-09-2006, 07:10 AM
Sis Maw i wish i had my daraaree daftar, the sheikha gave us a looooong faa'idah bout the 3imaamah, it was really nice too, only i don't remember it properly so i won't write it inshaAllah.
wearing the 3imaamah whilst performing wudhuu
Mugheera may Allah be pleased with him said he saw the messenger alayhi salaatu wasssalaam wipe his forehead his turban/3imaamah and his khuffayn, in muslim.
The preferance of wearing a black 3imaamah and letting the ends come down between the shoulders
3an 3amre bin hurayth, he said i saw the messenger alayhi salaatu wassalam on the minbar, he had a black turban and its ends were coming down between his shoulders, muslim.

Hadeeth Jaabir that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam on the day he entered Mecca (yawmul fat7-opening of Mecca) he wore a black turban.

this is all i have 3azeezatee ( if you have more plz share, its good muraaji3ah)

next one sunnah of tajmeel, making yoursef beautiful

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-09-2006, 04:28 PM
Ok then Umm-sulaim......Jazakillah Khair for your Fawaa'id

However since it seems that no one else is interested in posting any Fawaa'id I think I'll have to answer my own question :(

So here are some Sunnah's of the 'Imaamah :

Letting it hang between the shoulder Blades

عن ابن عمر قال : { كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا اعتم سدل عمامته بين كتفيه } ، قال نافع : (وكان ابن عمر يسدل عمامته بين كتفه رواه الترمذي ) .

From Ibn Umar, He said " Rasulullah Salalllahu alaihi wa sallam used to let his Imaamah hang between his shoulders whenever it was 3atamah (Ishaa time)
Ibn Naafi3' said " And Ibn Umar used to let his 3imaamah hand between his shoulders "


The piece of 3imaamah hanging from the back should be the lenght of 4 fingers

أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَمَّمَ عَبْدَ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنَ عَوْفٍ فَأَرْسَلَ مِنْ خَلْفِهِ أَرْبَعَ أَصَابِعَ أَوْ نَحْوَهَا ثُمَّ قَالَ : هَكَذَا فَاعْتَمَّ فَإِنَّهُ أَعْرَبُ وَأَحْسَنُ
قَالَ السُّيُوطِيّ : وَإِسْنَادُهُ حَسَنٌ

Rasulullah peace be upon him Dressed Abdurrahmaan ibn Awf in an 3imaamah and he let it hang from behind him by the length of 4 fingers or close to that. And then he said " Wear your 3imaamah like this, for it is more like the Arabs and More Better "
As-Suyuuti said " It's chain of narration is Hasan"

( My dad used to wear his 3imaamah short like that, he looked so good :D )


Wrapping the Imaamah around the head ( Like the Yemenis innit Gals :thumbs_up )

وَقَدْ رَوَى الْبَيْهَقِيُّ فِي شُعَبِ الْإِيمَانِ عَنْ ابْنِ سَلَامٍ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سَلَامٍ قَالَ : { سَأَلْت ابْنَ عُمَرَ كَيْفَ كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَعْتَمُّ ؟ قَالَ : كَانَ يُدِيرُ الْعِمَامَةَ عَلَى رَأْسِهِ وَيُقَوِّرُهَا مِنْ وَرَائِهِ ، وَيُرْسِلُ لَهَا ذُؤَابَةً بَيْنَ كَتِفَيْهِ

al-Bayhaqee Related a Hadeeth in his book "Shu3ab al-Iman" From Ibn Salaam Bin Abdillah Bin Salaam, He said , " I asked Ibn Umar How did Rasulullah use to wear his Imaamah" Ibn Umar replied " He used to wrap it around his head and let it hang from behind his head and he used to let a piece of it hang from between his shoulders "

I just love seeing men wearing the 3imaamah!!!! :wub: :wub:

Ok I think this is enough fawaa'id for the Imaamah.......Does anyone want to take the next Question Insha'allah!! I'm plumb tired out :exhausted
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Mawaddah
08-09-2006, 04:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim

next one sunnah of tajmeel, making yoursef beautiful

wassalaam
Oops I didn't see this question :D

Ok peoples this one is next!!!!! :)
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umm-sulaim
08-09-2006, 04:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Ok then Umm-sulaim......Jazakillah Khair for your Fawaa'id

However since it seems that no one else is interested in posting any Fawaa'id I think I'll have to answer my own question :(

So here are some Sunnah's of the 'Imaamah :

Letting it hang between the shoulder Blades

عن ابن عمر قال : { كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا اعتم سدل عمامته بين كتفيه } ، قال نافع : (وكان ابن عمر يسدل عمامته بين كتفه رواه الترمذي ) .

From Ibn Umar, He said " Rasulullah Salalllahu alaihi wa sallam used to let his Imaamah hang between his shoulders whenever it was 3atamah (Ishaa time)
Ibn Naafi3' said " And Ibn Umar used to let his 3imaamah hand between his shoulders "


The piece of 3imaamah hanging from the back should be the lenght of 4 fingers

أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَمَّمَ عَبْدَ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنَ عَوْفٍ فَأَرْسَلَ مِنْ خَلْفِهِ أَرْبَعَ أَصَابِعَ أَوْ نَحْوَهَا ثُمَّ قَالَ : هَكَذَا فَاعْتَمَّ فَإِنَّهُ أَعْرَبُ وَأَحْسَنُ
قَالَ السُّيُوطِيّ : وَإِسْنَادُهُ حَسَنٌ

Rasulullah peace be upon him Dressed Abdurrahmaan ibn Awf in an 3imaamah and he let it hang from behind him by the length of 4 fingers or close to that. And then he said " Wear your 3imaamah like this, for it is more like the Arabs and More Better "
As-Suyuuti said " It's chain of narration is Hasan"

( My dad used to wear his 3imaamah short like that, he looked so good :D )


Wrapping the Imaamah around the head ( Like the Yemenis innit Gals :thumbs_up )

وَقَدْ رَوَى الْبَيْهَقِيُّ فِي شُعَبِ الْإِيمَانِ عَنْ ابْنِ سَلَامٍ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سَلَامٍ قَالَ : { سَأَلْت ابْنَ عُمَرَ كَيْفَ كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَعْتَمُّ ؟ قَالَ : كَانَ يُدِيرُ الْعِمَامَةَ عَلَى رَأْسِهِ وَيُقَوِّرُهَا مِنْ وَرَائِهِ ، وَيُرْسِلُ لَهَا ذُؤَابَةً بَيْنَ كَتِفَيْهِ

al-Bayhaqee Related a Hadeeth in his book "Shu3ab al-Iman" From Ibn Salaam Bin Abdillah Bin Salaam, He said , " I asked Ibn Umar How did Rasulullah use to wear his Imaamah" Ibn Umar replied " He used to wrap it around his head and let it hang from behind his head and he used to let a piece of it hang from between his shoulders "

I just love seeing men wearing the 3imaamah!!!! :wub: :wub:

Ok I think this is enough fawaa'id for the Imaamah.......Does anyone want to take the next Question Insha'allah!! I'm plumb tired out :exhausted

my 3amm wears it like your abu too...and he yusaddil too.....
lil ya3quob does yusaddil too...he tries to copy our 3amm lol...its too funny!!

yeah sis in true yemeni fashion alright.....could you do ta3meem?
I can in 3 diff ways lol.....its nice!

Here we seldom see bro's wearing 3imaamah its really nice to see mashaAllah...

Thanks again for that takmilah 3azeezah,
i wanted to mention that 3abdullahi bin salaam one but i didn't know if it was sa7ee7 or not so i left it,
BaarakaAllahu feek!

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-09-2006, 04:49 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

lol @ our lil' ya'quubiy copying our unlce with the tasdeel :giggling:

jazaakillahu khayr girlies for the fawaaidh..I could'nt find any on the imaamah!!

the ta3meem is kool...we used to do it for our lil ' yaquub and yusuf!! :wub:

Imaamah's are beautiful man!!...but ppl hardly wera 'em here and when they do they're looked at like the brothers of Mr Laden :heated:

the tajmeel...gotta look into that inshaAllah...tajmeel/beautifying yourselves...for those who do no understand it!!
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Mawaddah
08-09-2006, 04:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
my 3amm wears it like your abu too...and he yusaddil too.....
lil ya3quob does yusaddil too...he tries to copy our 3amm lol...its too funny!!

yeah sis in true yemeni fashion alright.....could you do ta3meem?
I can in 3 diff ways lol.....its nice!

Here we seldom see bro's wearing 3imaamah its really nice to see mashaAllah...

Thanks again for that takmilah 3azeezah,
i wanted to mention that 3abdullahi bin salaam one but i didn't know if it was sa7ee7 or not so i left it,
BaarakaAllahu feek!

wassalaam
I know how to tie the 3imaamah in about 3 ways too umm-sulaim!! :wub: I love it love it loooooveee it, when I see someone wearing it I'm like wooooooow :giggling:

The Yemenies do it so beautifully right :wub:

Aww and that sounds so cute of Ya3qoob masha'allah.....how old is he now anyway? He was such an adorable baby when we left :wub:

Ok back to the question!! someone else do it....I'm putting up my feet for now :D

Ma3assalamah:peace:
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umm-sulaim
08-09-2006, 09:05 PM
LOol putting your feet no way hut hut hut ......march yalla yalla ya bint!!
he he he....just raja3tu min arryiaadha dhaak...
yeah sis Maw yemenis have the best ways of putting on tyhe 3imaamah, they have like so many ways of doing it, you know umm abdillah indonesiyyah used to tell us learn it, she always used to ask hal ta3lamuna atta3meem lol?
ya3qaboubee is 4 now....Ya Allah time goes by so fast!!
you know he won't let us take him out the house without doing his 3imaaamah "he says aanda3aadee ishtee yamaanee" then he walks around with both hands behind his back lol....saying salam laket to the men that pass by lol...if they stand infront of us he says tareeeeeeeeqqq aysh hadha, ya balaa adeb!!...thenmumvles like his speaking something m
lil yusuf calls anyone ya balaaaa adaaab!! ......*sighs* miss 'em...

Aaaaaaaanyways...

yalla peeps answer please...
yaa 3azeezah hal assu'aal sa3ab you think?

wassalaam
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-10-2006, 12:27 AM
:w:
Permission to ask :peace:
Ladies, I know wearing imamah is fi'liyah from Rasulullah but is there qouliyah that explain the ajr/reward of wearing imamah? :sunny: Cause all I know the hadiths about the reward of wearing imamah is all not sa7ee7 (is this means saheeh? ), Allahu a'lam. And I ever heard explanation IF in some country its not usual to wear imamah then by wearing it that mean we wear something suhrah clothes that make us different from the others.
And I ever had explanation taht wearing imamah just urf/tradition and doesnt have reward at all. But Allahu A'lam maybe for this matter everyone who doing it still have ajr cause of hadith "verily all amal according to the niyah". And following Rasulullah in every aspect of his life -shalallahu alaihi wasallam- is the best thing that we must do and its explain the level of iman from one muslim and theres a lot of ajr for following him, may Allah make us a strong follower of Him, ameen.
PS. Ooh yeah, I read syaikh Albani rahimahullah said that its sunnah tradition and not sunnah ibadah.
Maybe someone can add more explanations, sukran jazeelan katheeran.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-10-2006, 01:53 AM
:w:

Actually the question too wide isnt it? Cause it can be mean about clothes, hair, in salah, in eid etc. But I'll do it whatever I get insha Allah.

- Quran says:
يَا بَنِي آدَمَ خُذُواْ زِينَتَكُمْ عِندَ كُلِّ مَسْجِدٍ وكُلُواْ وَاشْرَبُواْ وَلاَ تُسْرِفُواْ إِنَّهُ لاَ يُحِبُّ الْمُسْرِفِينَ

"O Children of Adam! wear your beautiful apparel at every time and place of prayer: eat and drink: But waste not by excess, for Allah loveth not the wasters." (Al A'raaf: 31)

- May not make your self pretty (adorned) with something haram, such as pulling your eyebrow, wearing a wig (fake hair), cuting hair too short etc. And may not wearing silk, gold, isbal, cutting beard, etc for men.

The best dress is a white dress, Rasulullah said:"You should wear a white dress, cause white more pure/clean, better, and kafan mayit with white clothes". (An Nasaai and tasheeh by Al Hakim)

- Men may wear a ring from silver as Rasulullah used to wear and he wore it in his left pinkie/little finger. (Hadith Muslim)

- May not dress like opposite sex as Rasulullah said:"Allah curse a man who looklike women and women who looklike men" (HR. Bukhari)

- The best groom is with a dress of taqwa. Quran says:

يَا بَنِي آدَمَ قَدْ أَنزَلْنَا عَلَيْكُمْ لِبَاسًا يُوَارِي سَوْءَاتِكُمْ وَرِيشًا وَلِبَاسُ التَّقْوَىَ ذَلِكَ خَيْرٌ ذَلِكَ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللّهِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَذَّكَّرُونَ

"O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of GOD's signs, that they may take heed." (Al A'raaf: 26)

-Rasulullah said:" You can eat, drink, dressing and shadaqah without stinginess and conceit". (HR. Bukhari)

-Ibnu Abdil Barr in At Tahmid said "Actually ahli ilm said its mustahab for someone who have ability to groom with a nice clothes, perfume and siwak when he wanna do salah".

- Umar bin Khattab said in riwayah Thohawi in Syarah Ma'anil Atsar:"Allah have more right for you to groom"

- The dress must be enough to close the aurah, and not thin etc.

Maybe the girls wanna add more about colouring their hair, or make holes in their ears more than one holes (what you call it?), or wearing what? What do U call to colour your nails? :rollseyes Ooh yes...its hienna right? :peace: please explain about these along with the daleels, insha Allah manfaat for girls.

[PIE]:peace: The topic not finish yet :thumbs_up [/PIE]
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 09:27 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

And I ever had explanation taht wearing imamah just urf/tradition and doesnt have reward at all. But Allahu A'lam maybe for this matter everyone who doing it still have ajr cause of hadith "verily all amal according to the niyah". And following Rasulullah in every aspect of his life -shalallahu alaihi wasallam- is the best thing that we must do and its explain the level of iman from one muslim and theres a lot of ajr for following him, may Allah make us a strong follower of Him, ameen.
PS. Ooh yeah, I read syaikh Albani rahimahullah said that its sunnah tradition and not sunnah ibadah.
I remember a Shiekh saying, that it is not sunnah, but if one wears it with the niyyah that he is following the Sunnah of the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam, then he is rewarded for it..wallahu a3lam!!

MashaAllah Jazaakallah khayr for answering the question :thumbs_up

Maybe the girls wanna add more about colouring their hair, or make holes in their ears more than one holes (what you call it?), or wearing what? What do U call to colour your nails? Ooh yes...its hienna right? please explain about these along with the daleels, insha Allah manfaat for girls.
[PIE]The topic not finish yet [/PIE]

Yes Masha'aAllah it is a really big topic to talk about InshaAllah me and the others sisters would see if we can come up with something...

InnalAaha Walliy Dhaalik wal Qaadair 3alayhi!!
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i_m_tipu
08-10-2006, 09:57 AM
:salamext:
Very good thread

How much SUNNAH do U KNOW?!?!?

Know quite a lot

I gladly accept any good dalail

Do u know
(not word by word)
The honorable Madhabs used to say “if u find any better proves than I provides u on any subject than throw out our dalils”
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 10:01 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

Know quite a lot

I gladly accept any good dalail
MashaAllah that's good, maybe you could join us in this thread then akhee :)

The honorable Madhabs used to say “if u find any better proves than I provides u on any subject than throw out our dalils”
Sorry I did'nt quite get that!!??
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i_m_tipu
08-10-2006, 10:17 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,



MashaAllah that's good, maybe you could join us in this thread then akhee :)



Sorry I did'nt quite get that!!??
:salamext: sis
insAllaah

might help u later
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 10:24 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

okay then here's the question that's standing..a few have answered bits of it..

Q: The Sunnah of beautifying ones self!!??
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i_m_tipu
08-10-2006, 10:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

okay then here's the question that's standing..a few have answered bits of it..

Q: The Sunnah of beautifying ones self!!??
:salamext: sis
The Sunnah of beautifying ones self!!??

now i can quote u one hadis(not word by word)

i read it in a anewspeaper (islaim articles/history)

once a time Prophet Muhammad (SAW) passing , A woman raise her hand in order to stop him.

Prophet Said "Who is it"

The person replied "i m a woman"

Prophet said "Than why there is no color (mehedy muslim use it to color their head hair and hands) in ur hands"
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umm-sulaim
08-10-2006, 10:34 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
:w:

Actually the question too wide isnt it? Cause it can be mean about clothes, hair, in salah, in eid etc. But I'll do it whatever I get insha Allah.
yes akhee its a broad question but i was hoping we could bring something from diferent chapters like you said, eid, hair...also jum3ah..
I think its a nice sunnah to know...
so anyone can chip in what they know bout beautification/tajmeel

wassalaam
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sameer
08-10-2006, 01:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
:sl:
:) No offence at all bro, jazakallah khair for joining us in this thread, I hope we all can take so much manfaat in here insha Allah.
So akheel kareem about the hadith :
Narated By 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : The Prophet said Allah will not look, on the Day of on who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit. On that Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle! One side of my Izar hangs low if I do not take care of it." The Prophet said, 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit."

Akhee, We should know that this not mean we may wear our clothes under our ankle yaa akhee, cause this is uzuur that Abu Bakr had. And this is happened to Abu Bakr was not because he wanted to wear his clothes under his ankle cause the hukm is clear about it, but it was just sometimes his clothes descent by it self without his realization, cause he was a thin man you see. If you read the history about khulafaa ar rasyideen (in bidayah wan nihayah by Ibn Katheer, or fit tamyiz ash sahabah by ibn Hajar, and another history book by ulama salaf) then you will know his characteristic and his appearance. Abu Bakr was a man with a lovely face, and he was a thin man till his eyes deep into the skull. So its his uzuur, and Rasulullah knew about this so thats why he said:" 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit." And its Rasulullahs witness to Abu Bakr, so who witness the muslims today who do isbal?Abu Bakr is Ash Shiddiqul akbar whose iman so strong and he was the one who had the strongest iman amongth the sahabah even amongth all muslims till yaumul qiyamah, and who are we so we can use this hadith as if we have the same level as Abu Bakr to make isbal allowed? :brother: Still according to another hadith that its muthlaq isbal is haram to men but Muslims who have the same uzuur as Abu Bakr then they may use this daleel, but still they have to try first so his clothes wont go below his ankle.

So, the general hukm about this matter (Isbal) is muthlaq haram according hadith : "
"The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." (HR. Bukhari). And IF we say that we may do isbal as long as we are not conceit, then Rasulullah told us that isbal it self is one conceit to Allah, as he -shalallahualaihi wasallam- said:"Dont do isbal cause isbal is a conceit". (Narated by Jabir bin Sulaim, HR Bukhari).

So our ulama explained IF someone do isbal without a conceit in his heart then he is threatened by hadith:"The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." And IF he do it with a conceit in his heart then his sins is even bigger and he is threatened by the hadith: "The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." and also PLUS the hadith :"Whoever did isbal with his clothes because of conceit, then Allah will not look at him in yaumul qiyamah". So muslims who do isbal with a conceit then his sins is even more bigger cause he combine big sins (Isbal) and a conceit. And the hadith to Abu Bakr Ash Shiddiq only work to someone who have the same uzuur as Abu Bakr had.

And also there hadith that said in the time before Rasulullah there was a man who walk around with his clothes isbal all over the place, and he was so conceit. Cause those times it was said longer the pants then its explained the social status that they have. And then Allah drown that man into the earth, and he is still moving (alive) till yaumul qiyamah. So isbal is an action of a conceit, and isbal is forbidden because its safer for our clothes and cleaner, and also by not doing isbal we have made our selfdont looklike a woman, cause women wajiib isbal but men haram to do isbal. And Rasulullah said "Allah will curse men who dress like women and women who dress like men". What do you think if we do isbal and then when we walk without we realize our pants touch something najis and then we do salaat with that kinda pants, and Rasulullah ever explained about two muslims who was tortured in the grave cause he did salaat with najiis on his clothes cause he was careless to be aware of it. So theres no different then if we do isbal, then we will be tortured also cause we are careless with our clothes. And theres nothing hard insha Allah to not isbal cause Islam is easy abd beautiful, masha Allah.

Naam, this is what sheikh Abdulaziz bin Bazz rahimahullah explained in his fatawa.

Im sorry for my long explanation, I hope its manfaat insha Allah.
Salaams, Thank u for ure detailed explainations, personally i dont wear my clothes below my ankles or allow it to drag becuase of the same reasons u give, - for fear that there may be conciet in my heart.
However I cant judge another person heart to tell him that it is HARAM to let his pants drag. What i can tell him is that he Shouldn't do it and the reasons y and quote the complete hadith - but i wont say it is HARAM..beacuse it isnt. If it was Haram then Abubakr would have been commiting a sin and since the state of cociet did not apply to him, then it wasnt a sin. I dont like to say things are plain haram when there are Conditions that makes it haram.

Is it possible to wear a pants cut short above the ankles and still walk with more pride than that of the man with his pants longer than his ankles? In this case, who have commited the sin? Have we missed the real point of this hadith. Salaams bro.
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Mawaddah
08-10-2006, 01:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
Salaams, Thank u for ure detailed explainations, personally i dont wear my clothes below my ankles or allow it to drag becuase of the same reasons u give, - for fear that there may be conciet in my heart.
However I cant judge another person heart to tell him that it is HARAM to let his pants drag. What i can tell him is that he Shouldn't do it and the reasons y and quote the complete hadith - but i wont say it is HARAM..beacuse it isnt. If it was Haram then Abubakr would have been commiting a sin and since the state of cociet did not apply to him, then it wasnt a sin. I dont like to say things are plain haram when there are Conditions that makes it haram.

Is it possible to wear a pants cut short above the ankles and still walk with more pride than that of the man with his pants longer than his ankles? In this case, who have commited the sin? Have we missed the real point of this hadith. Salaams bro.
No offense intended brother, but you are bringing a wrong Hujjah here.

Overall we say that wearing the pants below the ankles is "HARAM" and our Daleel will be as stated.

Your claim that if it was Haram then Abu Bakr would be doing haram is incorrect, why? Because if you look at the explanation given we see that Rasulullah told Abu Bakr that he is not dragging his clothes out of conceit because it was a situation that couldn't be helped. In islaam this is called a Rukhsah, i.e. something which is haraam may be excused for certain situations.

We can take an example, the hadeeth in which Rasulullah took up a piece of silk in one hand and a piece of Gold in his other hand and said " These two things are haraam for the men of my Ummah but Halaal for the women of my Ummah "
And in another hadeeth Rasulullah stated that the only amount of silk allowed for a man to wear is that which is 4 fingers broad...

So clearly we know that it's haraam for men to wear gold and silk , BUT there has also come ahaadeeth in which Rasulullah allowed a few men of his Companions to wear Silk garments because they had a skin irritation. And we also know of another instant in which a Companion whose nose got cut off and so Rasulullah ordered him to replace it with one of Gold.

For one who doesn't have much knowledge it will look as if these hadeeths contradict each other, but in reality they do not, BECAUSE the ONLY instants in which a man can wear silk or Gold is in the state of necessity. And this is what is called Rukhsah.

So Isbaal (lengthening below the ankles) IS haraam for men unless there is an excuse for it, like how Abu Bakr had an excuse.

And no it is not for you or anyone to judge whether a person is dragging his clothes out of conceit or not, because we do not know what's in their hearts, but the main thing is that they are doing something which Rasulullah prohibited, and so we advise them according to that.....Wallahu A3lam, I hope you understand :)
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Nawal89
08-10-2006, 01:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
Salaams, Thank u for ure detailed explainations, personally i dont wear my clothes below my ankles or allow it to drag becuase of the same reasons u give, - for fear that there may be conciet in my heart.
However I cant judge another person heart to tell him that it is HARAM to let his pants drag. What i can tell him is that he Shouldn't do it and the reasons y and quote the complete hadith - but i wont say it is HARAM..beacuse it isnt. If it was Haram then Abubakr would have been commiting a sin and since the state of cociet did not apply to him, then it wasnt a sin. I dont like to say things are plain haram when there are Conditions that makes it haram.

Is it possible to wear a pants cut short above the ankles and still walk with more pride than that of the man with his pants longer than his ankles? In this case, who have commited the sin? Have we missed the real point of this hadith. Salaams bro.
brother you're saying that wearing your pants below the ankles isnt haram?

the hadeeth clearly states that whats below the ankles is in teh fire. Also another hadeeth mentions that Allah will not look at the man on the day of judgement who drags his pants below his ankles.

If a sin is mentiond with a promise of punishment, then it is considered from the Kabaa'ir. (major sins)
how can this not be Haram?
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umm-sulaim
08-10-2006, 02:36 PM
I totally agree you with you 3azeezaatee....

ma3luumatukumaa tayyib!

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 02:38 PM
as salaamu alaykum

Hear ye Hear Ye!!...I agree too...nice going ladies!! ;)
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sameer
08-10-2006, 02:41 PM
I understand what u all are saying, but maybe u are not seeing my point? I quoted the complete hadith b4 and i agreed with Dhulqarnaeen where he said that it is Abubakr didnt wear it out of conciet , and that dragging clothes can get filth on it, and that he was skinny etc. And i also said that i dont wear my clothes in that way (dragging) cause of fear that i may do it with conciet.
And if u do it with conciet then Allah wont look at u, or it will be in hel fire and so on.
I also said in my original post is that ppl often quote the first part of the hadith without quoting the second part. Why do they do this? Is it the most importance is that clothes shouldnot drag? or the clothes should not drag with conciet -meaning that a person should not walk with pride with his clothes draggin as if he is better than anyone else? Y dose it seem to me that some muslims are more concerned with the lesser of the messages here? (both messages are important) To me the major message here is the conciet part, which most ppl never quote in the hadith. So u are saying its ok to wear ure clothes above ure ankle with conciet????
I agree, dont let ure clothes drag out of conciet cause it wil be in the hell fire, but what will cause u to end up in the fire? the dragign of the clothes or the draggin it with pride?
This is a view shared by other learned ppl as well.

Dont get me wrong - i am not condoning the dragging of clothes by anyone nor am I encouraging them to do so. My advice to anyone would be not to let ure clothes drag no matter how humble u may think u are- There is always wisdom in the advice of rasoolallah (saw).

I seek Allah's forgivness if i have said anything wrong ameen.
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Mawaddah
08-10-2006, 03:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
I understand what u all are saying, but maybe u are not seeing my point? I quoted the complete hadith b4 and i agreed with Dhulqarnaeen where he said that it is Abubakr didnt wear it out of conciet , and that dragging clothes can get filth on it, and that he was skinny etc. And i also said that i dont wear my clothes in that way (dragging) cause of fear that i may do it with conciet.
Baarakallahu Feek for that Brother then Masha'allah.

format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
And if u do it with conciet then Allah wont look at u, or it will be in hel fire and so on.
Precisely

format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
I also said in my original post is that ppl often quote the first part of the hadith without quoting the second part. Why do they do this? Is it the most importance is that clothes shouldnot drag? or the clothes should not drag with conciet -meaning that a person should not walk with pride with his clothes draggin as if he is better than anyone else? Y dose it seem to me that some muslims are more concerned with the lesser of the messages here? (both messages are important) To me the major message here is the conciet part, which most ppl never quote in the hadith. So u are saying its ok to wear ure clothes above ure ankle with conciet????
See first of all, we were discussing the way of wearing clothes in Islaam....Not that one part of the hadeeth is more important than the other, of course not, all of the hadeeth is from our Prophet and thus that makes all of it important. But The Reason our Brother stated the first part of the hadeeth was most probably because that was in accordance to the Question which was stated.

Now your question "its ok to wear ure clothes above ure ankle with conciet????"

Akhee of course it's not ok. Conceit in itself is not ok!! No matter which form it comes in, Conceit is a filthy and despised character, and you will not find Conceit together with Imaan in the heart of a beleiver.
BUT, The hadeeth stressed on the dragging of the garments, Because this was/is the way of the people who have Takabbur and Pride, they used to let their garments trail behind them, And Our Prophet always advised us to do that which was good and admonish us from that which was wrong, and so that's why he stressed on the Dragging of the Garments

format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
I agree, dont let ure clothes drag out of conciet cause it wil be in the hell fire, but what will cause u to end up in the fire? the dragign of the clothes or the draggin it with pride?
Once a person gains knowledge of this then it is Waajib on him to follow, because in Islaam and as Muslims we are supposed to say " I hear and I obey "
If a person was to drag his clothes out of conceit, then this will most surely land him into the hell fire becaues he has fallen into the category which was mentioned in the hadeeth.

If a person drags his clothes, and claims that it is not because of conceit, this still lands him into the Hell fire!! This is because he has shown himself to reject the teachings of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. Our Prophet who was the farthest man from conceit alaihissalam didn't use to drag his garments, so we are to follow his example.

Also there have been hadeeth in which The Prophet cursed the one who drags his garments, and there was no mention of the word Pride in the hadeeth ( Umm sulaim sahhiheeni law ghaladtu Baarakallahu Feeki)

format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
This is a view shared by other learned ppl as well.
Such as? I didn't know this before, can you please state some? :)

format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
Dont get me wrong - i am not condoning the dragging of clothes by anyone nor am I encouraging them to do so. My advice to anyone would be not to let ure clothes drag no matter how humble u may think u are- There is always wisdom in the advice of rasoolallah (saw).

I seek Allah's forgivness if i have said anything wrong ameen.
Ameen...
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 03:05 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

I get where the Brothers coming from...seems the same as what you have in mind... so where exactly is the dispute!!??

mawaddah...atakallamuun 3an hadeeth maa asfal al-ka3bayn fi'n naar!!??
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Mawaddah
08-10-2006, 03:08 PM
^ Yes I'm talking about that hadeeth jazakillah khair :D

Prophet said " Whatever is below the ankles is in the Hell Fire "

No it's not exactly a dispute sis :) I'm just clarifying that Dragging the Garment with or without Pride is still Haraam.
And I"m just clarifying that NO it's not ok for someone to wear his garments above his ankles with pride

Dhih Bas :)
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 03:11 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Wa Iyyaaki!

Aaaaaaaaah Tamaam!!...fahimt!!..:)

well you two covered it mashaAllah, i have nothing to add!! ;)
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umm-sulaim
08-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Mawaddah sis, ajabtee wa asbatee BaarakaAllahu feeki, what you said now and previously was in our daraaree lesson...(laakin sa attakad fee amr atakabbur tayyib ukhtee)
Al-isbaal, dragging the clothes for men, is haraam MUTLAQAN....like sis nawaal said earlier cos the hadeeth shows that Allah has cursed the dragger of his cloth, it shows that its from the major sin!
So if someone wanted to humble and modest then the way of rasuululaah is the best way (alayhi salaatu wassalaam)

wassalaam
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umm-sulaim
08-10-2006, 03:15 PM
I mean i think kaana min siffaat al muttakabbireen, wallahu a3lam...

but al isbaal is haraam muttlaqan like you said,

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-10-2006, 03:19 PM
Ok then, so lets go back to the original Question ........ What was it again? Me forgets :D
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sameer
08-10-2006, 03:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
I mean i think kaana min siffaat al muttakabbireen, wallahu a3lam...

but al isbaal is haraam muttlaqan like you said,

wassalaam
could someone translate for me please?
A lot of posters here use words that i don't understand.

I would enquire about the hadith again from my teacher- maybe i didnt understand it clearly enough.

Anyhow the question about wearng clothes above the ankle with conceit was really a rhetorical question and dint need answering for my part, but i guess its a good thing that the sister answered it incase someone who didnt know better was reading this.

Whats the next question by the way?
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 03:26 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

kaana min siffaat al muttakabbireen
it's the description of those who have pride...

but al isbaal is haraam muttlaqan like you said,
al-isbaal, to wear your clothes long!!..below your ankles...and muttlaqan means like in general...

Whats the next question by the way?
& the next question was...what is the sunnah of beautifying ones self?
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-11-2006, 02:40 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by i_m_tipu
:salamext:
Very good thread

How much SUNNAH do U KNOW?!?!?

Know quite a lot

I gladly accept any good dalail

Do u know
(not word by word)
The honorable Madhabs used to say “if u find any better proves than I provides u on any subject than throw out our dalils”
:w:
:brother: Welcome bro walhamdulillah. And yes alhamdulillah you know a llot of sunnah masha Allah :D . And we are here to learn more about sunnah, maybe theres something that we miss or we never know, cause sunnah is so wide masha Allah. So we hope you enjoying to be here and learning with us all in here insha Allah. And the rules just simple: Answer the question with daleel/explanations from qur'an and sunnah, and if you can tell us the takhreej, wether its Bukhari or muslim or whose Imam tasheeh the hadith so we can rely on your answer insha Allah.
And yes, thats qoul/saying of al Imam Asy Syafi'i if Im not mistaken :) and basically thats the words of every mahdhab, just like Imam Asy Syafi'i said " laa tuqalliduuni" means you may not taqlid (following his opinion wether its right or wrong) to my opinion, and He also said "whenever one hadith is saheeh then thats my mahdhab. And he also said to his beloved student, Imam Ahmad Al Hambali, he said "Yaa Ahmad, if you find some hadith from the people of Basrah or somewhere please tell me so I can rujuu' from my previous opinion". Cause no syak Imam Ahmad is one Imam who have most hadiths than the other Imam, masha Allah. Wa rahimahumullah.
So welcome bro...and we hope you never give up studying insha Allah.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-11-2006, 04:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sameer
Salaams, Thank u for ure detailed explainations, personally i dont wear my clothes below my ankles or allow it to drag becuase of the same reasons u give, - for fear that there may be conciet in my heart.
However I cant judge another person heart to tell him that it is HARAM to let his pants drag. What i can tell him is that he Shouldn't do it and the reasons y and quote the complete hadith - but i wont say it is HARAM..beacuse it isnt. If it was Haram then Abubakr would have been commiting a sin and since the state of cociet did not apply to him, then it wasnt a sin. I dont like to say things are plain haram when there are Conditions that makes it haram.

Is it possible to wear a pants cut short above the ankles and still walk with more pride than that of the man with his pants longer than his ankles? In this case, who have commited the sin? Have we missed the real point of this hadith. Salaams bro.
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Yes, alhamdulillah you dont do isbal and yes you may not wear your clothes under your ankles akhel kareem :) alhamdulillah. And I think I have to add more information for my bro, insha Allah...

However I cant judge another person heart to tell him that it is HARAM to let his pants drag.
Yes we may not judge whats people have in their heart, its true. And I understand why you said this akhee, its about the "conceit" right? Cause you always talking about conceit. But Akhee...like I explained in my previous post, that our ulama (and not from me) explained thru their kutuub that isbal it self is conceit to Allah, like hadith that I quoted above, Rasulullah said:"Dont do isbal cause isbal is a conceit". (Narated by Jabir bin Sulaim, HR Bukhari).". So another hadith just explained more about how if we do isbal with or without conceit in our heart, thats all. But still the basic rule of isbal is hadith "The part of an Izar which hangs below the ankles is in the Fire." (HR. Bukhari). And the hadith of Abu Bakr is a rukhsah like sis Mawaddah explained above. And someone who have uzuur doesnt considered a sin, cause in another hadith we also know three things that cant be included to sins, those are -if we forget- or insane- or sleeping (If Im wrong please correct me). And in Abu Bakr -radhiallahu 'anhu-s case, his pants kept fell down till below his ankle without his realization, so because it kept fell down and he kept pulling it but sometimes he forgot to take it up, so its included the rukhsah and he had no sins because of this, its also according ayah Qur'anul adhim:

".... لاَ يُكَلِّفُ اللّهُ نَفْساً إِلاَّ وُسْعَهَا "

"On no soul doth Allah Place a burden greater than it can bear."(Al Baqarah:286).

وَلَا نُكَلِّفُ نَفْساً إِلَّا وُسْعَهَا وَلَدَيْنَا كِتَابٌ يَنطِقُ بِالْحَقِّ وَهُمْ لَا يُظْلَمُونَ

"On no soul do We place a burden greater than it can bear: before Us is a record which clearly shows the truth: they will never be wronged. (Al Mu'minoon: 62)

And when Rasulullah said "You are not one of those who do that out of conceit.", Its because Rasulullah know about the uzuur which Abu Bakr had, And also he knew that Abu Bakr is a thin man so he understood why Abu Bakrs pants sometimes went below his ankle, and He also knew that Abu Bakr did it not because he was a conceit man, and Rasulullah is the witness how Abu Bakr is the greatest man of muslims and he was ash shiddiqul akbar, so thats why Rasulullah said " You are not one of those who do that out of conceit."
And its not especially for Abu Bakr only, but also its for everyone who have the same problems as Abu Bakr. But its rukhsah, everything called rukhsah is them who have a strong reason to doing so, and Allah know best of their reason. And also someone who have the uzuur have to try first to always take their clothes up above their ankle and the rest of it then leave it to Allah, and its why its called rukhsah, and not every muslims have it Im sure. But not every muslim CAN take this hadith as an exception that they may do isbal cause they "think" they have no conceit in their heart. Masha Allah,how can we judge our own heart that we "know" that we dont have conceit in our heart? Can I say -for example- "Im not a conceit man" or "Im not an arrogant man", or "I am wearing this clothes and isbal is not because Im a conceit man"...:brother: How do they know since their true characteristics cant be judge by their own self. How many people say "Im a good muslim" but then they do a lot of bid'ah, and then they explain something to people without the right knowledge from Quran and hadith, so then can we still say "he is a good muslim" while in our knowledges what they do so dangerous to Islam? No we cant, cause we cant judge our self yaa akhee. Thats why in ilm hadith it have "al ilm jarh wa ta'dil". :brother: And our ulama hadith made researches to know which rijal is thiqah, and which rijal is unknown and which rijal is kadhab, also which rijal is a lier and not good in his dien,....etc. Thats mean we may not say something that judging our self, but we must take somebodys opinion (about us) to be our mirror so we can correct our self and be a better muslim in the future with their corrections.
So its not a right reason to keep doing isbal with that kinda reason that they wearing it without a conceit, cause we human just weak. There are a lot of muslim have cars, and while driving it they feel theyre just higher than another people, its a conceit right, but a lot of muslims doesnt realize it and they just doint it lightly wallahul mustaan. So I think, if one people say or think that they doing something with no conceit thats mean that saying is a conceit it self.

And now lets put aside about this "conceit" for a while. The illat (reasons) that isbal is haram is not only conceitness, but also its more clean to our clothes, like Umar bin Khattab radhiallahu anhu said to one teenager who was isbal "yaa ghulam, take up your pants, cause its more clean/pure/saint to your clothes and to your heart". And we also know the hadith that said about there was two muslims who were slaughtered in their grave in Rasulullahs time cause he was careless when he went to toilet, he didnt pay attention to his clothes clearance. So how if someone do isbal when their pants or clothes will easily touch the ground? And there are a lot of najis in the ground, najis of dogs, human, animal and all, and we may do salah with this kinda clothes cause our salah will not be accepted. So its out of conceitness right? :eek: :)
Ok, insha Allah manfaat.:peace: Allahu A'lam bisshawab.

Ps. Sorry long long explanation
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-11-2006, 04:26 AM
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Why the girls silent about this matter? :omg:
Doesnt it these matters about earspierching, or colouring the hair, or hienna or body painting or wearing eyes(....what do U call it? I call it celak in here. Something black you wear in eyes, and its sunnah too.) are somethings of the favourite topic that akhwat always talking about? :D C'mon, Im sure a lot of muslims wanna know about this especially girls. :thumbs_up Get rockin ukh ! And also tell us are the girls in Yemen or somewhere also doing these kind stuffs and how the sheikhs reactions? :peace: Jazakumullah khair
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umm-sulaim
08-11-2006, 08:28 AM
Yes akhee there are many, but i asked the question so i don't want to answer until my sisters bring the fawaa'id,
thanks for your answers al mufeedah
yes you're right i don't know why they are quite...i'm sure they're cooking somethig up...(right girls?)
"Something black you wear in your eyes" lol...you mean ko7l right?

wasalaam
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Mawaddah
08-11-2006, 04:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
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Why the girls silent about this matter? :omg:
Doesnt it these matters about earspierching, or colouring the hair, or hienna or body painting or wearing eyes(....what do U call it? I call it celak in here. Something black you wear in eyes, and its sunnah too.) are somethings of the favourite topic that akhwat always talking about? :D C'mon, Im sure a lot of muslims wanna know about this especially girls. :thumbs_up Get rockin ukh ! And also tell us are the girls in Yemen or somewhere also doing these kind stuffs and how the sheikhs reactions? :peace: Jazakumullah khair
Well, actually the ruling about any kind of adornment or dressing is that if it's from the 3aadah of that country, and it does not go against any Sharee3ah rulings, then it is ok Insha'allah.

I'll just give you a brief experience of mine with the Shuyukh in Yemen concerning these issues which you mentioned insha'allah.

Piercing the ears : A common practise by women all around the world, and we know that women in Rasulullahs time also did this, from the hadeeth when Umar ibn al-Khattab was giving half of his wealth to Rasulullah and his wife gave him One Earring. Also the hadeeth in which Rasulullah was advising the women on Eid and they starting giving him their Earrings etc.

Coloring the Hair : This is allowed also, as long as the method which it is colored does not resemble the foolish and stupid people of society. Rasulullah allowed us to dye our hair just as long as we keep away from the color Black. Also when I was in yemen, it was an extremely common practise amongst the women there to dye their hair.

Coloring the Body : I assume you mean Henna? this is also allowed of course and is extremely popular amongst women in the Middle east especially. Some of the People in Dammaj even claimed it to be a Sunnah for women to wear Henna but I never got around to checking the hadeeth. They mention a hadeeth when Rasulullah asked a woman why didn't she have Henna on her hands? I dont know the Haal of this hadeeth though. And Henna can be used anytime, on anypart of the body.

As for Kuhl : Then of course, this is an all time women favorite :D My dad likes to wear it too lol :thumbs_up Sunnah yes, and I'm sure everyone knows that this is allowed and no problem to do it :)

Anklets : Allowed Wallahu A3lam, and we know that women of the Prophets time used to wear anklets.

So the conclusion is like how I mentioned above, any type of adornment which does not go against the Sharee3ah or is not the type of adornment of the Ignorant and Foolish people, then it is allowed Insha'allah......

Someone correct me please if there's a mistake :)

Wassalamu'alaikum.
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umm-sulaim
08-11-2006, 04:43 PM
Thanks for your answer sis mawaddah, inshaAllah i have a little i'd llike to add on, but i'll do so tommorow inshaAllah,
so far what you said is corrrect in my eyes too sis
BaarakaAllahu feeki
wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-12-2006, 12:13 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

MashaAllah All looks ...okay...

the anklets....are allowed na3am, but there's also ones that are haraam..like in jaahiliyyah they used to have bells attached to it, or sumthing that'd produce some sort of noise..and then it was made haraam..cause it causes too much attention to the women...
wallahu a3lam...maa adkurr an-nass!!

You can go ahead and give the next question Maw!! ;)
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-12-2006, 08:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah
Well, actually the ruling about any kind of adornment or dressing is that if it's from the 3aadah of that country, and it does not go against any Sharee3ah rulings, then it is ok Insha'allah.

I'll just give you a brief experience of mine with the Shuyukh in Yemen concerning these issues which you mentioned insha'allah.

Piercing the ears : A common practise by women all around the world, and we know that women in Rasulullahs time also did this, from the hadeeth when Umar ibn al-Khattab was giving half of his wealth to Rasulullah and his wife gave him One Earring. Also the hadeeth in which Rasulullah was advising the women on Eid and they starting giving him their Earrings etc.

Coloring the Hair : This is allowed also, as long as the method which it is colored does not resemble the foolish and stupid people of society. Rasulullah allowed us to dye our hair just as long as we keep away from the color Black. Also when I was in yemen, it was an extremely common practise amongst the women there to dye their hair.

Coloring the Body : I assume you mean Henna? this is also allowed of course and is extremely popular amongst women in the Middle east especially. Some of the People in Dammaj even claimed it to be a Sunnah for women to wear Henna but I never got around to checking the hadeeth. They mention a hadeeth when Rasulullah asked a woman why didn't she have Henna on her hands? I dont know the Haal of this hadeeth though. And Henna can be used anytime, on anypart of the body.

As for Kuhl : Then of course, this is an all time women favorite :D My dad likes to wear it too lol :thumbs_up Sunnah yes, and I'm sure everyone knows that this is allowed and no problem to do it :)

Anklets : Allowed Wallahu A3lam, and we know that women of the Prophets time used to wear anklets.

So the conclusion is like how I mentioned above, any type of adornment which does not go against the Sharee3ah or is not the type of adornment of the Ignorant and Foolish people, then it is allowed Insha'allah......

Someone correct me please if there's a mistake :)

Wassalamu'alaikum.
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Mmmm...masha Allah. God explanations sis mawaddah :thumbs_up alhamdulillah. But wheres the question? Maybe someone? or I will give the next question insha Allah.
But maybe its not a sunnah question, but Im asking for your opinions. So Im in manasik hajj, Im going to hajj this year insha Allah. And I join this hajj education, my mother choose it and its not sunnah. And I admit I just give less attention about this hajj things. So I just know so little about hajj cause I didnt pay attention to learn about it. And then the teacher came with somethings, so I wanna ask your explanations ok. HE said :
- Before we go hajj, then do walimatus safar, is it sunnah? Or tradition?
- and then we should ask for everybodies forgiveness
- and then we have to write wasiat to our family that we leave.
- and there are du'a in thawaf, I mean theres certain dua when we around kabah for the first circling and second and all. Is it sunnah. please explain to me insha Allah. :brother:
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umm-sulaim
08-12-2006, 09:25 AM
OK just wanted to add more bout rings..
Gold
Men can only wear silver but for the women its permissble to wear gold,
3an abee Hurayarah radhiyaAllahu anhu that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalam prohibited men from wearing gold. Muslim.
Also 3an 3abdullhi bin 3umar, that the prophet alayhi salatu wasalaam had a ring made of gold and he would let the stone face the inner side of his palm, the people did the same,one day he sat and discarded the ring and said, i wore this ring with the stone towards my inner palm, by Allah now i willl never wear it and discarded of it, the people dicasded of theirs too. Muslim.


silver
3an anas radhiyaAllahu anhu that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam had a silver ring and it had on it engraved "muhammdun the messenger of Allah" so none should engrave these words.

Also on rings is the hadeeth that its prohibited for men to wear rings on the indicator and the one thats next to her..(plz guys i don't remeber the sa7aabi, if you know fill me in, thx.)
One time Umm Salamah al 3amraaniyyah saw me wearing my thumb ring and asked why i did this, i said cos i liked it...then she mentioned to me the above hadeeth, and she said this action is makruuh (something thats disliked)
Then sheikh Yahya Al-hajuree hafidhahuAllau says its permissable for the women to wear her rings on any finger.and that hadeeth applies to the men,this is what we both took later (sheikh yahya's ghawl) Alhamdulillah, the sheikh used this ayah "awa man yunasshau fil 7ilyati"

wasalaam
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Nawal89
08-12-2006, 03:38 PM
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Mawaddah
08-12-2006, 03:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
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Mmmm...masha Allah. God explanations sis mawaddah :thumbs_up alhamdulillah. But wheres the question? Maybe someone? or I will give the next question insha Allah.
But maybe its not a sunnah question, but Im asking for your opinions. So Im in manasik hajj, Im going to hajj this year insha Allah. And I join this hajj education, my mother choose it and its not sunnah. And I admit I just give less attention about this hajj things. So I just know so little about hajj cause I didnt pay attention to learn about it. And then the teacher came with somethings, so I wanna ask your explanations ok. HE said :
- Before we go hajj, then do walimatus safar, is it sunnah? Or tradition?
- and then we should ask for everybodies forgiveness
- and then we have to write wasiat to our family that we leave.
- and there are du'a in thawaf, I mean theres certain dua when we around kabah for the first circling and second and all. Is it sunnah. please explain to me insha Allah. :brother:
Ok, I think your teacher first of all has to differenciate between those things which HAVE to be done, and those things which are actually just a tradition

For example this Walimatus Safar.......what is this for? Totally unnecessary and a burden only, this is just a culture of the people....I know that it's very popular amongst the Malays,:rollseyes everytime someone goes for Hajj then they have to make a Walimah. When actually there has come no daleel in the Sunnah about this. So this is just tradition


Asking for everybodies forgiveness is something which someone should do, Rasulullah said in a Hadeeth " Whosoever one of you has wronged his brother in anyway, whether it is concerning money or concerning honor, then let him Free himself of it today, Before there comes a day when there will be no Deenaar and no Dirham and his Good Deeds will be taken away from him to compensate......"

And making the Wasiyyah before leaving is something which is Mustahabb and very good to do.

Also paying off all of the debts before going to Hajj is another thing which the individual should strive to do before going for Hajj. And also Doing Tawbah.

And about the specific Du'as for going around the Ka'bah, Well actually there is no specific Du'a for the first Tawaf or second Tawaf etc. Sheikh Ibn Baaz said that this is just something that the People have made up , but actually there is no Asl for them to do that.
However if when you are just about starting your Tawaf then you can say this Du'a " Allahumma Iimaanan Bika, wa Tasdeeqan Bi Kitaabika, Wa Wafaa'an Bi 3ahdika, Wattibaa3an Lisunnat Nabiyyika Muhammad " <<< It came in a Hadeeth that Rasulullah said this Du'a....

Mmm......Oh yes, so there is no special Du'a to be said during the Tawaf, you can just say any Du'a you like, or recite Quraan or anything, just as long as you do not talk duringst the Tawaaf like so many people like to do Because Tawaaf is just like Salaat.

Ok I hope this answers your questions Akhi? Actually I want to write this down in an email for my fri end but I dont think I can do it today I'm in a rush........:(

Oh yes, and this Fawaa'id is from what I remembered from when I studied Hajj a few years ago It's from a book that Sheikh Bin Baaz wrote so it's all saheeh insha'allah :).

But You should really really look for a right source to learn about your Hajj from, Dont take it lightly!! and May Allah grant you Hajj Mabrur Ameen....:thumbs_up
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umm-sulaim
08-12-2006, 04:23 PM
MashaAllah sis maw

aslo on wasiyyah, i don't think its supposed to be done on the basis of safar/travelling only.
the ahaadeeth on wasiyyah are 3aam (general) laa li aajal assafr faqat..
Ibn 3umar narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wasallam said (in meaning inshaAllah)
"the haqq of the muslim that has a wasiyyah is that he doesn't sleep a night or 2 nights without having his wasiyyah/will written with him"
muslim.

if i'm wrong please correct me, shukran.

wasalaam
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Mawaddah
08-12-2006, 11:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
MashaAllah sis maw

aslo on wasiyyah, i don't think its supposed to be done on the basis of safar/travelling only.
the ahaadeeth on wasiyyah are 3aam (general) laa li aajal assafr faqat..
Ibn 3umar narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wasallam said (in meaning inshaAllah)
"the haqq of the muslim that has a wasiyyah is that he doesn't sleep a night or 2 nights without having his wasiyyah/will written with him"
muslim.

if i'm wrong please correct me, shukran.

wasalaam
Yes I was going to add this hadeeth also, but since the brother asked concerning Hajj I just answered like that :D

Jazakillah khair for the hadeeth Kakak:thumbs_up

Maybe youcan give the next question? This thread seems so dead now.........where's Princess? :rollseyes
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umm-sulaim
08-12-2006, 11:41 PM
wa iyyaki adik,
aaw don't worry ukhtee your partner in crime will join you shortly..... :)

wassalaam
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-13-2006, 06:46 AM
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Alhamdulillah for the explanations. Actually I know its bid'ah for some of them, but I just waned to make sure Im on the right path, alhamdulillah.
Mmm...so I have to make wasiyyah yee? :? And if I have debts, do I have write it down too? :brother: And lets say if I die in Saudi, :cry: then...and lets say after tahalul, then will I die as a saint man? Cause someone after hajj then hadith say they will be like a baby who just been bornth right? So If I die, and my sins forgiven insha Allah, I think the debts will be obstacle for me to go to heaven yee? :heated: Cause I know hadith that said even someone saheed then they still have to responsible for their debts. :laugh: Yaa Allah, I have some debts, its quiet alot :cry: and I didnt have it cause to fullfill my bad desire, but its happened cause of my mistakes, yaa Allah -the most rich- please take this burden over my shoulder :'( amin. Having debts really tiring and sad. Seems like the world become narrow to me :-\ I always tried t stay away from it as far as possible but now Im trapped in it, masha Allah then and tawakal ilallah. Please du'a for me insha Allah. Ups...Im outta topic.
So please explain about that insha Allah, jazakallah khair.
And you guys so slow to make question :uhwhat , so I will do the next turn:
"Tell me the sunnah to be IMAM in SALAH?!? Ok, thats the question :peace:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-14-2006, 08:12 AM
Why the room so dead now? Wheres everybody? :cry:
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umm-sulaim
08-14-2006, 09:19 AM
Ok sunnah on leading the prayer...

following the imaam
Abee hurayrah radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalam said "verily the imaam has been appointed so that you may follow him, so do not oppose him, if he says Allahu akbar, then say Allahu akbar, and if he bows then bow, and if he says "sami3a Allahu li man 7amida" then say "rabaanaa wa lakal 7amd" and if he prostartaes then prostrate, and if he prays sitting, then pray sitting all of you.
Muslim and Bukhaari

warning for he who doesn't
Abee hurayrah narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said concerningthe one that oppose the imaam and dosn't follow him...
"Does the one that raises his head before the imaam not fear that Allah could turn his head in to the head of a donkey?"
Bukhaari and muslim.

saying ameen, when you hear it..
Abee hurayrah radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalam said "if the imaam says Ameen, then say ameen, for verily he whos "ta'meen" (saying of aameen) agrees with the angels, is forgiven for previous sins.
bukhaari and muslim.

Being considerate

He aslo narrated that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said, if any of you lead the people in prayer, then make it easy, for verily among them are the weak, the ill, and one with a need, and if anyone prays by himslef, then make it as long as he wishes.
BUkhaari and muslim.

starightening the rows

Nu3maan bin bashee radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam used to starighten their rows as if he was straightening with arrows, then when he was satisfied, he would say "yaa 3ibaada Allah la tusawanna sufuufakum aw la yukhaalifannna Allahu bayna wujuuhikum" o servants of Allah, you will certainly make your rows staright or Allah will contradict your faces.
Muslim.

Choosing the Imaam

Ibnu Mas3ud radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said regarding the imaam "The people should be led by the most knowledgable amongst them in the qur'aan, and if there are two equal in the qur'aan, then the one with the most knowledge in the sunnah, and if they are the same in the sunnah, then the one that made hijrah first, and if they are equal in hijrah then the older one of the two"
Muslim

Next question inshaAllah : sunnah of zuhd (asceticism)

wassalaam
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umm-sulaim
08-14-2006, 09:34 AM
Cause someone after hajj then hadith say they will be like a baby who just been bornth right? So If I die, and my sins forgiven insha Allah, I think the debts will be obstacle for me to go to heaven yee? Cause I know hadith that said even someone saheed then they still have to responsible for their debts.
yes akhee, you're right!

Abee gataadah radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that a man came to the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam and said " o messenger of Allah, whats your opininon, if i fought in the way of Allah will it erase my sins? the messenger of Allah replied: yes while you are patient and seeking the reward from Allah (mu7tasib) marching forth and not turning back, except for the debt, for verily Jibreel alayhi salam told me that.
Muslim.
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Nidita
08-14-2006, 09:52 AM
:salamext:

:peace:

Don't cry, my bro DHULQARNAEEN ! Here I m atleast, for u, inshaAllaah !

Any ways, ur question was so........ much important & nice ! But it was not so easy to do. I mean u must to do it ve....ry sincerely, inshaAllaah ! But yes, it is 1 of da BEST thing to do for Allaah & in this DEEN{islam}, inshaAllaah !

Well da SUNNAH is :

1. U MUST TO HAVE DA MORE OR BETTER OR BEST STUDY OR KNOWLEDGES ON DA QUR'AN, THAN DA OTHER PEOPLE IN THERE TO HAVE SALAH WITH U, INSHA-ALLAAH .

2. IF THAT CASE HAVE SOLVED PROPERLY, THEN, U MUST TO HAVE DA MORE OR BETTER OR BEST STUDY OR KNOWLEDGES ON HADDITH OR SUNNAH'S, THAN DA OTHER PEOPLE IN THERE TO HAVE SALAH WITH U, INSHA-ALLAAH .

3. IF THAT CASE HAVE SOLVED PROPERLY, THEN, U MUST TO HAVE DA MORE OR BETTER OR BEST KNOWLEDGES & CLEAR VOICE ON TIL'AWAAT{reading da sur'ah's} & DA OTHER'S IN DA SALAH, THAN DA OTHER PEOPLE IN THERE TO HAVE SALAH WITH U, INSHA-ALLAAH .

4. AND LASTLY, IF THAT CASE HAVE SOLVED PROPERLY TOO, THEN, U HAVE TO MUST ELDER THAN DA OTHER PEOPLE IN THERE TO HAVE SALAH WITH U, INSHA-ALLAAH .

I hope that, I help u now, properly, inshaAllaah !

" MAY ALLAAH GIVES US DA BEST BENEFITES FROM HIM, INSHA-ALLAAH ! ! ! "
{ameen}

Well....... can u give me da sunnah of BATHING, inshaAllaah, PLZZZZZ........ ??!!!!

O.....k then, v.....ry mch Jazakh Allaahukhaeran !

:peace:

:wasalamex
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amirah_87
08-14-2006, 12:03 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Sis Nidita, jazakillahu khayr for the explanation sis!! :thumbs_up

but could you please try to bring in daleels to back you up!! ;)
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Nidita
08-14-2006, 12:10 PM
:salamext:

OH, sis, vry mch sorry to forgot abt da daleel !

Any ways, here it is, inshaAllaah.........

BUKHARI{salah section} .

inshaAllaah, u will benefit from it !

Jazakhi Allaahukhaeran !

:peace:

:wasalamex
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amirah_87
08-14-2006, 12:16 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

that's no problem, on this thread when we answer a question..we answer it from the kitaab/sunnah, :)
just letting you know inshaAllah...

jazakillah for particpating though..we do need more particpants here ;)
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i_m_tipu
08-14-2006, 12:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
Ok sunnah on leading the prayer...

following the imaam
Abee hurayrah radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalam said "verily the imaam has been appointed so that you may follow him, so do not oppose him, if he says Allahu akbar, then say Allahu akbar, and if he bows then bow, and if he says "sami3a Allahu li man 7amida" then say "rabaanaa wa lakal 7amd" and if he prostartaes then prostrate, and if he prays sitting, then pray sitting all of you.
Muslim and Bukhaari

warning for he who doesn't
Abee hurayrah narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said concerningthe one that oppose the imaam and dosn't follow him...
"Does the one that raises his head before the imaam not fear that Allah could turn his head in to the head of a donkey?"
Bukhaari and muslim.

saying ameen, when you hear it..
Abee hurayrah radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalam said "if the imaam says Ameen, then say ameen, for verily he whos "ta'meen" (saying of aameen) agrees with the angels, is forgiven for previous sins.
bukhaari and muslim.

Being considerate

He aslo narrated that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said, if any of you lead the people in prayer, then make it easy, for verily among them are the weak, the ill, and one with a need, and if anyone prays by himslef, then make it as long as he wishes.
BUkhaari and muslim.

starightening the rows

Nu3maan bin bashee radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam used to starighten their rows as if he was straightening with arrows, then when he was satisfied, he would say "yaa 3ibaada Allah la tusawanna sufuufakum aw la yukhaalifannna Allahu bayna wujuuhikum" o servants of Allah, you will certainly make your rows staright or Allah will contradict your faces.
Muslim.

Choosing the Imaam

Ibnu Mas3ud radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said regarding the imaam "The people should be led by the most knowledgable amongst them in the qur'aan, and if there are two equal in the qur'aan, then the one with the most knowledge in the sunnah, and if they are the same in the sunnah, then the one that made hijrah first, and if they are equal in hijrah then the older one of the two"
Muslim

Next question inshaAllah : sunnah of zuhd (asceticism)

wassalaam

:sl:

JajakAllah for the info
but
i thing someting is missing

sahih bukhari
Vol 1, Book 12. Characteristics Of Prayer. Hadith 706.
Narrated By Nafi': Whenever Ibn 'Umar(ra) started the prayer with TAKBIR, he used to raise his hands: whenever he bowed, he used to raise his hands (before bowing) and also used to raise his hands on saying, "Sami a-l-lahu Liman hamida", and he used to do the same on rising from the second Rak'a (for the 3rd Rak'a). Ibn 'Umar(ra) said: "The Prophet used to do the same."
sahih muslim
Book 4. Prayer. Hadith 0759.
Ibn Umar(ra) reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), when he stood up for PRAYer, used to raise his hands apposite the shoulders and then recited takbir (Allah-o-Akbar), and when he was about to bow he again did like it and when he raised himself from the ruku' (bowing posture) he again did like it, but he did not
sahih muslim
Book 4. Prayer. Hadith 0758.
Salim narrated it on the authority of his father who reported: I saw the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) raising his hands apposite the shoulders at the time of beginning the PRAYer and before bowing down and after coming back to the position after bowing, but he did not raise them between two prostrations.
sahih muslim
Book 4. Prayer. Hadith 0762.
Malik b. Huwairith reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) raised his hands apposite his ears at the time of reciting the takbir (i.e. at the time of beginning the PRAYer) and then again raised his hands apposite the ears at the time of bowing and when he lifted his head after bowing he said: Allah listened to him who praised Him, and did like it (raised his hands up to the ears).
maliks muaktta
Book 3. Prayer. Hadith 021.
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Salim ibn Abdullah that Abdullah ibn Umar used to say "Allah is greater" in the PRAYer whenever he lowered himself and raised himself.
Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar used to raise his hands to the level of his shoulders when he began the PRAYer and when he raised his head from the ruku he would raise them less than that.
i found in a good islamic book(forgotten the name)
most of the Imam including Imam Hanifa raising their hands in rising and bowing

thou it conflict my locality where
it is very rare to see any imam leading his prayer rasing his hands both in rising and bowing in bangladesh.
Allaah knows the best

many of our Imam does not hold pure knowledge
they use to said growing Beard is not wagib but sunna of prophet
but i found strong enough hadis to call growing beard is wagib.

i wrote earlier that i know quite a lot Hadis and now when i verifying myself many of them found not pure enough to describe :cry:
so the reality is i know very few hadis

willing to take any better proof insAllaah
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-14-2006, 01:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by i_m_tipu
:sl:

JajakAllah for the info
but
i thing someting is missing
:sl:
:thumbs_up Great akheel kareem masha Allah, thats a good reminder for us all insha Allah. But unfortunately the question is about how to be imam in sunnah, but your answers are so fine masha Allah :peace:
And yes, we have to do our ibadah according the daleels yaa akhee, like all imam mahdhab (Abu Hanifah, Malik, Syafi'i, Ahmad rahimahumullah) said:"dont you taqlid to me, if theres hadith sahih then thats my mahdhab", so whenever we have hadith sahih that against one opinions of the imam then leave the imam and take the hadith :thumbs_up . Great answers bro, jazakallah khair. So the next question is Umm SUlaims question :
"The sunnah of Zuhud" and after that insha Allah the question of sis Nidita. Jazakallah for the encouragement.
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amirah_87
08-14-2006, 01:59 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Bismillah:

The types of zuhd

Al-Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal said: Az-Zuhd is of three types:

The first: abandoning that which is haraam (forbidden) – and it is the zuhd of the general folk.

The second: abandoning the excesses of that which is halaal (lawful) – and it is the zuhd of the people of distinction.

The third: abandoning that which busies one from Allaah – and it is the zuhd of the acquainted ones.


az-zuhd is aceticism..to not follow ones desires right!?..just checkin'
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sameer
08-14-2006, 06:37 PM
what is zuhud?
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amirah_87
08-14-2006, 11:18 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

what is zuhud
Az-Zuhd is,

"The opposite of being eager and concerned about the Dunya (the life of this world)." Further, ibn Al-Qayyim said,

"Az-Zuhd,

in the Arabic language, the language of Islam, entails abandoning a matter while despising it and while belittling its significance, so that one will exchange it for what is more significant." The Muslim ancestors who set good examples in the application of Islam have various opinions with regards to the meaning of Az-Zuhd.

Ibn Al-Qayyim for example said;

"I heard Shaikh Al-Islam ibn Taymiyyah say, 'Az-Zuhd entails abandoning what does not bring about benefit in the Hereafter. Al-Wara' (abandoning a part of the permissible for fear of falling into the impermissible) entails abandoning what you fear its consequences in the Hereafter.'" Then, ibn Al-Qayyim commented,

"This statement is one of the best and most comprehensive definitions of Az-Zuhd and Al-Wara'."

In addition, Sufyan Ath-Thawry said;

"Az-Zuhd in this Dunya entails having a short hope (or avoiding having hopes that one will live long), not by wearing the thick clothes or wearing the garment (as some people who observe fake Zuhd think is a part of Az-Zuhd)."

Imam Az-Zuhry also said that Az-Zuhd,

"Entails avoiding thanking Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala only for the 'Halal, and avoiding being patient only with the 'Haram." The author of Al-Lisan (a dictionary on the Arabic language) commented on the statement of Az-Zuhry,

"He means that one should not only thank Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala for the permissible things that He has given him (but also for the obligations, for their rewards with Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala are significant), and should avoid restricting his patience to avoiding the impermissible (but couple that with avoiding enjoying all types of the 'Halal, as an act of modesty, patience and Zuhd)."

Al-Hasan Al-Basri also said,

"Az-Zuhd in this Dunya is not achieved by prohibiting the Halal, nor by wasting money. Rather, it entails your being more certain in what Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has in His Hands, than your are about what you have in your hand. It also entails being eager for the reward of (practicing patience during) the calamity, if a calamity touches you, more than if the calamity did not touch you (as in this case, one will not gain the reward for observing patience during hard times. However, one should not wish for disasters to hit)." All these sayings given to us by the Muslim ancestors who set good examples in the application of Islam, are among the best definitions for the meaning of Az-Zuhd.

Az-Zuhd resides in the heart, and it can be achieved by ridding the heart of the slave from the love and the eagerness for this life. This way, the Dunya will be in one's hand, not in his heart, where the love for Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and the Hereafter will and should reside. Az-Zuhd does not entail abandoning the Dunya altogether. The Messenger of Allah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam was the leader of all those who practiced Az-Zuhd. Yet, he married nine times. Also, Prophet Dawood (AS) and Sulayman (AS) were kings as Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has described them. Yet, they were also among the Zuhhad (those who observe Zuhd). The companions of the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam were also among the Zuhhad. Yet, they all had wives, children and material possessions.

I'm hope you understood that akhee...
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amirah_87
08-14-2006, 11:35 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

There are several reasons that encourage one to indulge in Zuhd:

1. The slave's Iman being strong, his remembering when he or she will stand between the Hands of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, and his remembering the torments of the Day of Resurrection will all rid his heart from all will belittle the love of this Dunya and its short-lived joys. Hence, the slave will avoid excessive indulging in the joys and the desires of this life, all the while feeling content with whatever he has in it.

2. The slave's feeling that this Dunya busies the hearts from the remembering of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and that it hinders the path of mankind from stepping up the ladder of acquiring higher grades in the Hereafter. Also, the Muslim's feeling that mankind will certainly be asked about the joys and the delights of this life, as Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

"Then, on that Day, you shall be asked about the delight (you indulged in, in this world)!" (At-Takathur 102:8)

3. One will not acquire the material joys of this life unless he or she works hard to achieve such a goal. In this regard, mankind pays a significant effort and deep thinking. One may then have to mingle with the worst types of people. All this will come at the expense of seeking knowledge of the religion, conducting Da'wah unto Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, performing Jihad and worshipping Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. When the slave feels all this and when he has an enlightened heart, he will feel compelled and encouraged to disregard the Dunya, so that he will be able to preserved what is essential and that which will never end.

4. The Quran's belittling the significance of the Dunya and its joys, while describing this life as deceiving, false and short-lived pastime that involves wasting the time. Also, Allah's subhanahu wa ta'ala criticism of the adverse effect that excessive indulging in the Dunya will result in the Hereafter. The numerous Texts in the Quran and the Sunnah about this subject will encourage the Muslim to abandon matters of the Dunya and busy himself with what will truly remain.

Jabir ibn Abdullah (RA) said that the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam once passed by the marketplace, passing from the area of Al-'Aliyah, while people were all around him. He then passed by a dead goat, which ears were small, then took it by the ear, saying,

"Who amongst you would like to have this (dead goat with small ears) for a Dirham (a currency)?" They said, "By Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala! Even if it was alive, its small ears will be a deficiency, so how about when it is dead?" He sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said, "By Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala! The Dunya is less significant in the Sight of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala than this is to you." (Shar'h Muslim)
Furthermore, Al-Mustawrid Al-Fihry related from the Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam that he said,

"The Dunya, as compared to the Akhirah (the Hereafter), is just like when one of you dips his finger in the sea! Let him see how much (water) it (his finger) will carry." (Sahih Al-Jami')


It was Narrated by Abu Huraira: that Allah’s Messenger, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam, said, "The slave of the Dinaar, the slave of the Dirham, and the slave of bordered silk cloak are wretched. If such a one is given anything he is pleased, but if not he is displeased." (Al-Bukhaari)

Al-Haafidh Ibnu Hajar rahimahaullah in his explanation of this hadeeth in Buloogh al-maraam said:

It alludes to a voracious person or a man of greed. If such a person keeps acquiring some gratuities regularly, he will continue to be pleased and contended with Allah. But if such a person does not gain anything, he will not only be displeased with Allah, but will also be subjecting himself to a condition of heart-burning of a constant nature.

Narrated Ibn `Umar, radhiallaahu `anhu,: Allah’s Messenger, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam, said: "He who imitates any people is one of them." [Aboo Daawood reported it; Ibn Hibbaan graded it Saheeh]

Narrated Ibn `Abbaas, radhiallaahu `anhu: One day I was riding behind the Prophet, sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam, when he said, "Lad, be mindful of Allaah and He will protect you. Be mindful of Allah and you fill find Him before you, when you ask (for anything) ask it from Allah, and if you ask help, seek help in Allah." [Reported by at-Tirmidhee, who verified it as a Hasan and Saheeh]


Remembering of Allah suggests that one should have full cognizance of and pay attention to both the Divine rules as well as interdictions. Being remembered by Allah means that Allah will deliver his slave from the hardships of this world and the Hereafter. This Hadith inculcates an absolute monotheism which is to be cherished and imbedded with perfection. The Hadith thus goes that he world to its entirety, is neither capable of inflicting any harm on you nor could it do you any good. Whatsoever Allah wills and commands, shall happen.

Hope that's enough inshaAllah! :)
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amirah_87
08-15-2006, 01:13 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

Next question InshaAllah:The Sunnah of giving charity!? ( how you should give it, & to whom...etc)

wa alaykum as salaam :peace:
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chacha_jalebi
08-15-2006, 01:18 AM
you should give it to the poor n needy :D

and u sud giv it wit ur rite hand & ur left hand sudnt no bout it, so you shouldnt show off and you sud give with the intention of helpin n person:D:D:D:D

also RasoolAllah (saw) didnt allow his family to take charity :D:D:D

nex Q .....
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i_m_tipu
08-15-2006, 03:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
:sl:
:thumbs_up Great akheel kareem masha Allah, thats a good reminder for us all insha Allah. But unfortunately the question is about how to be imam in sunnah, but your answers are so fine masha Allah :peace:
:thumbs_up . Great answers bro, jazakallah khair.
:sl: brother

JajakAllaah Kahir for ur encouragement.

format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
And yes, we have to do our ibadah according the daleels yaa akhee, like all imam mahdhab (Abu Hanifah, Malik, Syafi'i, Ahmad rahimahumullah) said:"dont you taqlid to me, if theres hadith sahih then thats my mahdhab"
MasAllaah.....

i knew this massage of the mahdhab but i m tring to find it for last two days:exhausted

format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
so whenever we have hadith sahih that against one opinions of the imam then leave the imam and take the hadith
JajakAllaah Kahirun for understanding my fellings brother.

many people do not know/understand this massage of the mahdhab. lot of them used to follow mahdhab bilndly.

showing better proof is useless to lot of them.

their lack of understand causing serious damage to the unity of Islam.

Alas they understand like you.

their action only dishonor the honorable mahdhabs.

"so whenever we have hadith sahih that against one opinions of the imam then leave the imam and take the hadith" this action indeed the orginal saying of the honorable mahdhabs :thumbs_up
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-15-2006, 06:13 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by i_m_tipu
:sl: brother

JajakAllaah Kahir for ur encouragement.


MasAllaah.....

i knew this massage of the mahdhab but i m tring to find it for last two days:exhausted



JajakAllaah Kahirun for understanding my fellings brother.

many people do not know/understand this massage of the mahdhab. lot of them used to follow mahdhab bilndly.

showing better proof is useless to lot of them.

their lack of understand causing serious damage to the unity of Islam.

Alas they understand like you.

their action only dishonor the honorable mahdhabs.

"so whenever we have hadith sahih that against one opinions of the imam then leave the imam and take the hadith" this action indeed the orginal saying of the honorable mahdhabs :thumbs_up
:w:
RIGHT akhee masha Allah. So we have to say syukr cause we can behave as objectife with open clear minded to accept the right manhaj to understand Islam, alhamdulillahi rabbal alamin. Dont mind those people, just advice them as we can insha Allah manfaat. Show them the right soft Islam, but a,so strong and distinct if its about something which contradict Islam. Alhamdulillah for everything akhee.
So akhee, please answer the question :D
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i_m_tipu
08-15-2006, 06:56 AM
:salamext:

Charity in Islam

do u know
why Imam use to move his face in front of the generals in
Fajar and Asar at the end of the prayer. making some dua and khudba
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umm-sulaim
08-15-2006, 11:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by i_m_tipu
:sl:

JajakAllah for the info
but
i thing someting is missing

sahih bukhari
Vol 1, Book 12. Characteristics Of Prayer. Hadith 706.


sahih muslim
Book 4. Prayer. Hadith 0759.


sahih muslim
Book 4. Prayer. Hadith 0758.


sahih muslim
Book 4. Prayer. Hadith 0762.


maliks muaktta
Book 3. Prayer. Hadith 021.


i found in a good islamic book(forgotten the name)
most of the Imam including Imam Hanifa raising their hands in rising and bowing

thou it conflict my locality where
it is very rare to see any imam leading his prayer rasing his hands both in rising and bowing in bangladesh.
Allaah knows the best

many of our Imam does not hold pure knowledge
they use to said growing Beard is not wagib but sunna of prophet
but i found strong enough hadis to call growing beard is wagib.

i wrote earlier that i know quite a lot Hadis and now when i verifying myself many of them found not pure enough to describe :cry:
so the reality is i know very few hadis

willing to take any better proof insAllaah
Thanks for that information akhee, baarakaallahu feek.

wassalaam
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i_m_tipu
08-15-2006, 11:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
Thanks for that information akhee, baarakaallahu feek.

wassalaam
u r welcome..sister (ukhteee:?)

now stick on the next subject:p
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umm-sulaim
08-15-2006, 01:02 PM
yes inshaAllah...

BEGINNING WITH THE NEAREST TO YOU:
The prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said regarding charity "wabda' bi man ta3uul"
start with those that you provide for
(guys i don't have my books i'll fill in the sa7aabi when i get home inshaAllah)

Abu mas3uud al badri said that that the messenger of Allah alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "tge one that gives to his family and seeks the reward from Allah is like giving charity, muslim.

CHARITY ISN'T JUST MONEY:

Also hadeeth "kullu ma3ruufin sadaqah" every good action is charity. Hadeeth Jaabir in Bukhari.

GIVING ANYTHING EVEN HALF A DATE:

prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "fear the fire/protect yourselves against the fire even with half a date,
thats narrated by Adee bin 7aatim radhiyaAllahu anhu.

And the hadeeth brother chacha was referring to was hadeeth abee hurayra in bukhaari and muslim the seven that will be in the shade of Allah....and one of them was the one that his left hand didn't know what his right hand was giving, muslim, (i think its in bukhaari too not sure)

WHO ITS GIVEN TO:
Allah ta3aal says in surat tawbah " verily charity is for the poor and the needy, and the ones that are employed to collect the charity, and to those whos hearts it'll win that have embraced islam recently, and to free the captured ones, and to those who have debt, and those fighting in Allahs cause,and the traveller, a duty from Allah and Allah is the all knower all wise.
(60)

thats all i have for now,

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-15-2006, 02:41 PM
^ Masha'allah that's alot there alread sis :D

[PIE] *beep*Next question, next question, when is the next question coming up please *beep*[/PIE]

:p
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amirah_87
08-15-2006, 02:44 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

La Ba's, but you coulda added a lil more Mawaddah!! tsk tsk tsk..nayaaa!! :heated:




:p

next question then Umm sulaim! ajabti wa asabti, barakallahu feeki!!
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umm-sulaim
08-15-2006, 02:49 PM
o ye of little patience........ kiddin man, don't bombard with me lil smilies that are huffin and steamin yaa...

hehe....

wassalaam
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-15-2006, 04:38 PM
:w:
I think its sis Niditas question now sis, sunnah in bathing. and then we go to Umm Sulaims question after that insha Allah :peace: Just reminding
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umm-sulaim
08-15-2006, 04:47 PM
yes you're right sa7ee7 pardon me!!

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-15-2006, 11:11 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

okay then jazakAllah for that Dhul!

Here's the question asked by Sis Nidita guys!!:

Well....... can u give me da sunnah of BATHING, inshaAllaah, PLZZZZZ........ ??!!!!
wassalaams
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i_m_tipu
08-16-2006, 07:14 AM
:salamext:

There are seven obligatory baths:
Bath for Janabat
Bath for Hayz (for women only)
Bath for Nifas (for women only)
Bath for Istihaza (for women only)
Bath for touching a dead body
Bath for a dead body
Bath which becomes obligatory on account of a vow or an oath to perform it.


HOW GHUSL IS PERFORMED

According to the practice of the Prophet, upon whom be peace, the correct manner of performing ghusl is:

Both the essential and voluntary acts are now integrated here below to demonstrate how the Prophet (Peace be upon him) used to perform the ghusl:

A. Intend by heart to perform ghusl - and say Bismillah.
B. Wash both hands up to the wrists three times.
C. Wash one’s sex organs.

D. Perform wudhu
except that the washing of feet would be delayed until later, when the rest of the body is bathed.

E. Pour water over the head three times, massaging the hair to
allow the water to reach its roots.

F. Pour water liberally over the entire body, starting with the
right side and then the left, ensuring that no part of the body is left untouched by water, including armpits, inside the earlobes, inside the navel, between fingers and toes etc.,

NOTES:

1.A woman performs ghusl just as the man does, except that if
she has plaited hair, she need not undo it. She only needs to throw three handfuls of water over her head.

2.After completing the ghusl a person may recite the
supplication for concluding the ghusl, which should be
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i_m_tipu
08-16-2006, 07:16 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
yes inshaAllah...

BEGINNING WITH THE NEAREST TO YOU:
The prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said regarding charity "wabda' bi man ta3uul"
start with those that you provide for
(guys i don't have my books i'll fill in the sa7aabi when i get home inshaAllah)

Abu mas3uud al badri said that that the messenger of Allah alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "tge one that gives to his family and seeks the reward from Allah is like giving charity, muslim.

CHARITY ISN'T JUST MONEY:

Also hadeeth "kullu ma3ruufin sadaqah 7atta an talgaa khaak bi wajhin talq sadaqah" every good action is charity, even meeting your brother with a happy face is charity. (2 B filled in later inshaAllah)

GIVING ANYTHING EVEN HALFA DATE:

prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "fear the fire/protect yourselves against the fire even with half a date,
thats narrated by Adee bin 7aatim radhiyaAllahu anhu.

And the hadeeth brother chacha was referring to was hadeeth abee hurayra in bukhaari and muslim the seven that will be in the shade of Allah....and one of them was the one that his left hand didn't know what his right hand was giving, muslim, (i think its in bukhaari too not sure)

WHO ITS GIVEN TO:
Allah ta3aal says in surat tawbah " verily charity is for the poor and the needy, and the ones that are employed to collect the charity, and to those whos hearts it'll win that have embraced islam recently, and to free the captured ones, and to those who have debt, and those fighting in Allahs cause,and the traveller, a duty from Allah and Allah is the all knower all wise.
(60)

thats all i have for now,

wassalaam
Jk for the info sis
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umm-sulaim
08-16-2006, 07:24 AM
wa iyyaka (the same to you) , baarakaAllahu feek,
Janaabah

Hadeeth abee hurayrah in Bukhari and muslim.

al7aydh/menstauation+ isti7aadha

Hadeeth Aisha radhiyaallahu anhaa "if your period comes, then leave the salaah and when its time passes, wash the blood from yourself and pray"
this hadeeth applies to the musta7aadhah too, but she doesn't need to wash for every prayer, as for Umm Habeebah, the wife of the rpophet alayhi salaam she used to wash from her own preferance, and the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam didn't order her.

Nifaas

the scholars agreeunanimously that its waajib/obligatory.

Touching the dead body/one who washes a dead person

Ibn 3umar said "we used to wash the dead, from us was he who washed after (washing the dead) and from us was he who didn't" Ibn 7ajar declared it sa7ee7.


Vow/oath

i've never heard that you have to wash for this akhee....do you have a hadeeth please?

wassalaam
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umm-sulaim
08-17-2006, 06:27 PM
ok next question:

sunnah in writing letters.

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-18-2006, 01:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
ok next question:

sunnah in writing letters.

wassalaam
Niiiiice Question sis!! This is something which is not really researched and known is it? But Masha'allah :thumbs_up

So some of the Adab (etiquette) in writing letters is :

The Person should start first with The Basmalah (saying bismillah) and mentioned some of Allahs names.

And then he can say " Amma Ba3d " . I remember Layla and Aisha bint ash-Sheikh giving me some fawaai'd on this, and it is disputed as who is the first person who came up with this word.....some say Daawud and some say Muhammad Alaihissalam...but the most important thing is that it is a noble form of speech :)

ermmm.....Is there anything else? :?
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amirah_87
08-18-2006, 01:31 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Yeah, that's what I also have aswell, that the Basmalah is Sunnah!..

you can also use the hadeeth, when the Prophet salalaahu 3alayhi wasallam sent the letter to the King of Rome!!
he started the letter with bismillah...
The Ulamah have also extracted from this hadeeth that it is also Sunnah to write...from ------- to---- @ the beginning of the letter!! like the Prophet salalaaahu 3alayhi wasallam done...

Min: Muhammed ibnu 3abidillah... ilaa: 3atheem ar-Ruum....
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Mawaddah
08-18-2006, 01:37 PM
^ yeah that's what I know also sis :happy:

So are you going to do the next question? I dont have any interesting ones in mind right now :?

P.S. when are those muraaja3ah threads coming? ;)
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amirah_87
08-18-2006, 01:40 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

next question...I've kinda run out...lemme think for a while... :? :X

and those threads...oh yeah..i'm gonna PM you guys about them InshaAllah..."now"!! ;)
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amirah_87
08-18-2006, 03:04 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Okay Next Question InshaAllah:

The Sunnah of treating/accomodating a Guest/traveller!!??
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Mawaddah
08-18-2006, 03:31 PM
Wokay!!!

Hadeeth number one :

Rasullullah said in the Hadeeth by Abi Hurairah: Man Kaan Yu'minu Billahi Walyaumil Aakhiri Falyukrim Dhayfah
"Whichever one of you Beleives in Allah and the Last day then let him honor his guest "


And in the Hadeeth of Abi Shuraih, Khuwailid bin 3amr , He said, I heard Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam saying " Whoever beleives in Allah and the Last Day then let him Honor his Guest With Jaa'izatuhu" We said " O Rasulullah , What is Jaa'izatuhu ? " He said " His Day, and His night, And the period of serving a Guest is for 3 days, and whoever extends his service to his guest for longer than that, then it is Sadaqah from the Host "

Ok next Question :

What is the Sunnah and Adab for a Teacher towards his Students? :)
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amirah_87
08-19-2006, 12:04 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

Id like to add to the question I gave..

The Sunnah of treating/accomodating a Guest/traveller!!??
When makin' them food, it should be more than they'd actually eat...in qissat ibraahim when the Malaaikah/disguised as travellers cam to his house...
he slaughtered for a big fat calf... like it says in qawlhuu ta3aalaa... fa jaa bi 3ijilin haneed

and it's also from the adab to place the food/plate infront of them so they can be able to reach it without any difiicultness..
daleels' from the same qissah,
qawluhuu ta3aala... fa qarrabahuu ilayhim qaalaa alaa ta'kuluun..:and then he broght it (the food/plate) closer to them and said: are'nt you going to eat!!?

Allah knows best InshaAllah!!
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umm-sulaim
08-19-2006, 09:32 AM
nice fawaa'id here girls!!

Ok sis


format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah

What is the Sunnah and Adab for a Teacher towards his Students? :)
wow mashaAllah nice question sis...

patience
Ok i guess patience is a big one, we have to remember that we all started off not knowing anything as Allah taaala says "wa Allahu akhrajakum min butuuni ummahtikum la ta3lamuuna shay'aa"
and Allah brought put from your mothers womb, not knowing anything..
and stories from the salaf are so plentiful....

Repetition
Which is why in countless ahaadeeth the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam used to repeat his words like hadeeth "laa taghdab...don't be angry" he repeated this,
also hadeeth "a laa wa qawl azzuur" hadeeth abee bakrah (right) he repeated it so many times..

adressing them with kindness

Ibnu Abaas may Allah be pleased with him said that he was riding behind the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam when he said "ya ghulaam" o young boy "innee ualllimuka kalimaatin....alhadeeth"

3itaab/punishment

In hadeeth mu3aadh when the rpophet said to him " a fattaanun anta yaa mu3adh" are you a tempter/troublemaker o mu3aadh.."
and also when he said to abu Dharr "innaka rajulun feeka jaahiliyyah"
verily you are a man that still has ignorance in him...

Recognising their efforts
when abu hurayra may Allah be pleased with him asked the rpophet about the fire and he said that at that time everyone was asking about jannah, the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "o abu hurayrah, i know that you would ask these questions because of the way you preserve, keep the sunnah.."
He recognised him for his hard work... and dedication to the sunnah...

hope thats ok inshaAllah sis

baarakaALlahu feek

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-19-2006, 10:17 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

Id like to add to the question I gave..



When makin' them food, it should be more than they'd actually eat...in qissat ibraahim when the Malaaikah/disguised as travellers cam to his house...
he slaughtered for a big fat calf... like it says in qawlhuu ta3aalaa... fa jaa bi 3ijilin haneed

and it's also from the adab to place the food/plate infront of them so they can be able to reach it without any difiicultness..
daleels' from the same qissah,
qawluhuu ta3aala... fa qarrabahuu ilayhim qaalaa alaa ta'kuluun..:and then he broght it (the food/plate) closer to them and said: are'nt you going to eat!!?

Allah knows best InshaAllah!!
I was gonna put that but then I thought that we wanted "Sunnah" as in "Hadeeth" so I didn't put that :X But nice!! :)
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Mawaddah
08-19-2006, 10:18 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
nice fawaa'id here girls!!

Ok sis




wow mashaAllah nice question sis...

patience
Ok i guess patience is a big one, we have to remember that we all started off not knowing anything as Allah taaala says "wa Allahu akhrajakum min butuuni ummahtikum la ta3lamuuna shay'aa"
and Allah brought put from your mothers womb, not knowing anything..
and stories from the salaf are so plentiful....

Repetition
Which is why in countless ahaadeeth the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam used to repeat his words like hadeeth "laa taghdab...don't be angry" he repeated this,
also hadeeth "a laa wa qawl azzuur" hadeeth abee bakrah (right) he repeated it so many times..

adressing them with kindness

Ibnu Abaas may Allah be pleased with him said that he was riding behind the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam when he said "ya ghulaam" o young boy "innee ualllimuka kalimaatin....alhadeeth"

3itaab/punishment

In hadeeth mu3aadh when the rpophet said to him " a fattaanun anta yaa mu3adh" are you a tempter/troublemaker o mu3aadh.."
and also when he said to abu Dharr "innaka rajulun feeka jaahiliyyah"
verily you are a man that still has ignorance in him...

Recognising their efforts
when abu hurayra may Allah be pleased with him asked the rpophet about the fire and he said that at that time everyone was asking about jannah, the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "o abu hurayrah, i know that you would ask these questions because of the way you preserve, keep the sunnah.."
He recognised him for his hard work... and dedication to the sunnah...

hope thats ok inshaAllah sis

baarakaALlahu feek

wassalaam
Masha'allah those were really good umm-sulaim :) so next question min fadhlik?
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amirah_87
08-19-2006, 11:09 AM
as salaamu alaykum,

I was gonna put that but then I thought that we wanted "Sunnah" as in "Hadeeth" so I didn't put that But nice!!
Oh! I see!! :) Min Fawaaid Aisha bint Muqbil you see, I just could'nt resist Maw!! :)

*awaiting next Question*
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Mawaddah
08-19-2006, 11:43 AM
Ok I'll do the next question

What is the Sunnah when following a leader?
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Mawaddah
08-22-2006, 01:31 PM
[MAD]HELLOOOO ISN'T ANYONE GOING TO ANSWER MY QUESTION??? WHERE ARE YOU PEEPS GONE HIDING TO???[/MAD]

[S]BRO DHUL,PRINCESS,UMM SULAIM AND ALL THE OTHERS, YALLAH!!![/S]
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umm-sulaim
08-22-2006, 01:57 PM
LOol.... i'll answer it ukhtee, soon inshaAllah...

ya 3azeezah you mean like the ameer right,leader of the balad right?

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-22-2006, 02:05 PM
^ Yes...............ok I have to sign off now, I hope to see the answer when I come back insha'allah :D Itll be hours from now so dont worry about me coming behind your back :p;D
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umm-sulaim
08-22-2006, 03:13 PM
LOol ^ hehe...

Ok sunnah in following the leader

Following him in everything but that which is unlawful

"laa taa3ah li makhluuq fee ma3siyyatil khaaliq" there is no obedience to the created (human) in the disobedience of the creator...

umm.. forgot takhreej sort us out girls...

Following his orders

Ibn umar narrated that the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalam said It is obligatory upon a Muslim that he should listen (to the ruler appointed over him) and obey him whether he likes it or not, except that he is ordered to do a sinful thing. If he is ordered to do a sinful act, a Muslim should neither listen to him nor should he obey his orders.
muslim

The just ruler

Is from the seven under the shade of Allah on the day that there will be no shade except the shade of Allah, hadeeth abee hurayra, in muslim (is it in bukhaari too i don't rememeber)


The tyrant

Verily I have heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) say: Anyone among the bondsmen (of Allah) who was entrusted with the affairs of his subjects and he died in such a state that he was dishonest in his dealings with those over whom he ruled, Paradise would be forbidden for him.
narrated by ma3qil bin yassaar

this is all i can remember ukhtee

next question: Sunnah of Brotherhood giving examples and stuff inshaAllah...

wassalaam
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-23-2006, 05:03 AM
:sl:
How are you guys? Hope youre fine in iman and taqwa, amin. I just arrived from out town, alhamdulillah.
Soooo sunnah following the leader:
1. "yaa ayyuhalladhina amanuu atiiullah wa atiiurrasul wa ulil amri minkum", from this ayah ulama tafseer said we must obey Allah and Rasulullah without conditions, in eveeeeerythings, but obey the ulil amri with conditions, along with the hadith Umm Sulaim said above that "no obedience above ma'siyatil kholiq".
Ooh I remember once the government of Saudi ever told the soldiers to cut their beard, and all ulama alhamdulillah gave fatawa that its haram to follow them :brother: masha Allah, Ulama there so strong and powerfull alhamdulillah. In here, Indonesia we dont have taht kinda ulama at all :cry: , almost all everyone called ulama here just juhala and khutoba', in the future insha Allah. I hope from my children insha Allah :D Ameen.

2. And hadith "help your bro who is zhalim and got zhalim-ed (Its arabic english ;D )". So perhaps our government who is muslim doesnt stand Islamic law, that doesnt mean we may say something bad about them, and then doing political demonstration against them and ghibah about them. But like Ibnu Abbas (If Im not mistaken) said:"If I have one wish that certainly will be answered by Allah, then I will pray for my leader". So we still have to obey them in haq and disobey them in batil.

But guys, you know something what amazes me? I think the arabian country still consider the advices from ulama so much Allahu A'lam. Although they cant stand Islamic laws in their country but still the consider their advices, especially in critical situation. Like when Kuwait attacked by Iraq long time ago. Ulama Saudi said its ok to seek help from USA to protect the country. As long as we dont make our dien as a sacrifice right. And masha Allah the manfaat form fatawa which full with ilm can be seen, there were alot of, thousands of USA's soldiers be muslims that time, masha Allah walhamdulillah. So fatawa which with ilm will bring alot of barokah masha Allah.
Just intermezzon guys :peace:
So next question . :brother:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-23-2006, 05:35 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim

next question: Sunnah of Brotherhood giving examples and stuff inshaAllah...

wassalaam
Mmm...sunnah of brotherhood? Insha Allah.

1. Al Hashr: 9

وَالَّذِينَ تَبَوَّؤُوا الدَّارَ وَالْإِيمَانَ مِن قَبْلِهِمْ يُحِبُّونَ مَنْ هَاجَرَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَا يَجِدُونَ فِي صُدُورِهِمْ حَاجَةً مِّمَّا أُوتُوا وَيُؤْثِرُونَ عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ وَلَوْ كَانَ بِهِمْ خَصَاصَةٌ وَمَن يُوقَ شُحَّ نَفْسِهِ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ

"But those who before them, had homes (in Medina) and had adopted the Faith,- show their affection to such as came to them for refuge, and entertain no desire in their hearts for things given to the (latter), but give them preference over themselves, even though poverty was their (own lot). And those saved from the covetousness of their own souls,- they are the ones that achieve prosperity."

2. Hadith Bukhari and Muslim: Narated by Anas radhiallahu anhu:" Rasulullah said "Your iman will not perfect till someone love something for his brother something that he love for him self".

3. Al Maidah:2

"... وَتَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى الْبرِّ وَالتَّقْوَى وَلاَ تَعَاوَنُواْ عَلَى الإِثْمِ وَالْعُدْوَانِ وَاتَّقُواْ اللّهَ إِنَّ اللّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ "

"...Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah. for Allah is strict in punishment. "

4. Al Ahzab: 21

لَقَدْ كَانَ لَكُمْ فِي رَسُولِ اللَّهِ أُسْوَةٌ حَسَنَةٌ لِّمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو اللَّهَ وَالْيَوْمَ الْآخِرَ وَذَكَرَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا

"Ye have indeed in the Apostle of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah."

Mmm...some addition from you guys insha Allah will manfaat :peace: :coolbro:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-23-2006, 05:55 AM
:beard: SUNNAH THREAD FROM THE START TILL NOW :muslimah:

Page 1
1. Do U know that we should move our fingers while sitting praying in tasyahud? (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by sisJameela, bro Mazed and bro muslim_friend)
2. Is it sunnah to kiss our parents hands to respect them? ( By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by sis Mawaddah and samiya_06)
3. What is the Sunnah when pertaining to cure from the Evil eye? ( By Sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Mazed and bro Dhulqarnaeen )
4. What is a person to do according to sunnah when obligated to socialize with the kuffar on a daily basis? what must be remembered and upheld? (By Bro Mazed and answered by sis Mawaddah)
5. How many different types of Ruqyah are there according to Sunnah? (By Sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen )
6. How does one perform a "perfect" ablution? (By Bro Mazed and answered by sis msrebgui and bro Abdullah4ever)

Page 2
7. According to the Sunnah what do we do when we see a snake in the house? (By Sis Mawaddah and answered by sis Amirah )
8. What are the Sunnah surahs to recite duringst Salaat Fajr? ( By sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Mazed)
9. What should one say before eating? If one forgets to say this, then what should they say? What should one say after eating? (By Bro Mazed and answered by bro Abdullah4ever)

Page 3
10. What do you say when you leave the toilet? gimme the proof ...and is it saheeh or da'eef?? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah)
11. What used to be the practise of Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam in the grooming of his hair? ( By sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Mazed)
12. How should one treat his enemy according to the sunnah? (By Bro Mazed and answered by sis Mawaddah)
13. Provide some Hadeeth from the Sunnah on the giving of presents ( By Sis Mawaddah and answered by )
14. WHAT PRAY THAT WE CAN DO ON THE QUBR AND IN WHAT SITUATION? " Daleel daleel... (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by)
15. What are the pillars of al-imaan...how many are there and gimme the daleel stating the narrarter and it's authenticity..if it is...also what kutub are they in... ???...it's easy !! (Sis Amirah)


No Questions in page 4
Page 5
16. What is the sunnah regarding the beard? How should it be groomed? And how did rasullulah saws keep his beard? (By Bro Mazed and answered by Bro Dhulqarnaeen)
17. TELL ME SOMETHING WHICH IS WAJEEB AND SOMETHINGS THOSE ARE SUNNAH IN JUMUAH?....(By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by Sis Mawaddah and Sis Haji_Helena)
18. Sunan of nikah(Then was made to be more specified by sis Mawaddah to”sunnah of walimah” in page 7)? and sunan of drinking water? (By Sis Haji_Helena and answered by sis Umm_shaheed, sis Amirah and sis Mawaddah)

No Questions in page 6 & 7
Page 8
19. What is the ruling of the Mehr /Dowry in the Islamic Shari'ah and what is the daleel ? (By sis Amirah and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen)
20. TELL ME THE SUNNAH OF DOING TAHAJJUD/QIYAMMUL LAIL !!! (by Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by Sis Amirah and sis Mawaddah)
21. What are the 5 things that our Prohet Muhammed was given ,and no other prophet was given before him!!???
plz give me the daleel for this...the narrater and it's takhreej ?? (By Sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah)

Page 9
22. What type of clothes did Our Prophet use to wear, and What is the daleel? (By Sis Mawaddah and answered by Abdullah4ever)
23. What Is the Sunnah when serving others something to Drink? (By sis Mawaddah and answered by sis Amirah)

Page 10
24. Name all the other Nawaafil (voluntary) fasts and if possible bring the Daleel also Insha'allah (By Sis Mawaddah and answered by sis Amirah )

No Questions in page 11
Page 12
25. " TELL ME SUNNAH IN TA'ZIYAH????" (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by Sis Mawaddah)
26. Mention a Hadeeth in which there is a Poem said by Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam (By Sis MAwaddah and answered by sis Amirah)
27. Who will be the first person to eneter Paradise , and gimme the daleel plz
and if you are able to the authenticity of this hadeeth and the book it's in?? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah and bro Mazed))

Page 13
28. What is the sunnah on Holding a Grudge? (By Bro Mazed and answered by him self)

No Questions in page 14
Page 15
29. What is the Sunnah when visiting a Sick person? Daleel please (By Sis Mawaddah and answered by sis amirah)
30. What are the manners of Eating ? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah)

Page 16
31. Mention some Hadeeth in which Rasulullah forbids us from being Selfish (By Sis Mawaddahand answered by Umm Sulaim)
32. Ok next ahaadeeth on the prohibition of oppression/thulm. (By Umm Sulaim and answered by sis Amirah and sis Mawaddah)
33. WHATHAS THE PROPHET ADVISED US TO DO WHEN WE FIND A LOST ITEM?.."LUQATA/LUQAATA! (By sis Amirahand answered by sis Mawaddah)
34. Give me some Daleel which forbids us from slandering the dead (By sis Mawaddah and answered by Bro Mazed )

No questions in Page 17
Page 18
35. Whats the sunnah when it comes to working, what places should we avoid working and what places should we work at? (By Bro Mazed and answered by Bro Dhulqarnaeen)

No Questions in page 19
Page 20
36. Did the Prophet salaalaahu 3alayhi wasallam advise his ppl to cure themselves from their sicknesses...or did he tell them not to and have complete faith in Allah!!?
Give me the Daleel for your answer aswell plz! (By sis Amirah and answered by Bro Mazed and bro Dhulqarnaeen)
37. Whats the sunnah regarding Waleemah? (By Bro Mazed and answered by sis Amirah and sis haji_helena))
38. Do you know the full name's of imaam Muslim and Bukhari, along with there kunya's!! (By Sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah and Umm Sulaim )

Page 21
39. Give me Daleels on how we are to treat Guests!! (By Sis Mawadah and answered by Umm Sulaim)
40. Mention ahadeeth that tells us how to treat our neighbours. (By Umm Sulaim and answered by bro Mazed and sis Mawaddah)
41. What is the Sunnah when announcing Deaths?? ( by sis Mawaddah and answered by Umm Sulaim and sis SalafiFemaleJih)

No Questions in page 22
Page 23
42. Sunnah when a child is born and raised? (By sis Haji_helena and answered by sis Mawaddah)
43. Give me some Hadeeth about the Sunnah's of Eid day (By sis Mawaddah and answered by sis Amirah)

Page 24
44. What are the 6 rights rights a muslim has upon another muslim? & could you please give the daleel for that inshaAllah!!.. (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah)
45. Give me some Hadeeth which show it is allowed to show discomfort at pain (e.g. saying ouch this hurts!! ) (By ss Mawaddah and answered by Bro Dhulqarnaeen and Umm Sulaim)
46. "TELL ME THE SUNNAH IN SAFAR" (By bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by sis haji_helena)

Page 25
47. Give me a daleel which states that it is Haram to point at a fellow Beleiver with a sharp object (By sis Mawaddah and answered by sis Amirah)
48. Give me a hadeeth that mentions you should say bismillah when you start to eat or drink?? (By sis Amirah and answered by Bro Iqram)
49. Now give me one which says that u shud love for your brother what u love for yourself (By Bro Iqram and answred by Umm Sulaim)

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50. Next give me the hadeeth when the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said, shall i not tell you the greatest of sins? ...alhadeeth.
"alaa udullukum bi akbaril kabaair?.........alhadeeth. (By Umm Sulaim and answered by Sis Mawaddah)
51. Bring me A Hadeeth in Which Rasulullah says "Three people whom Allah will not look at them on Yaumal Qiyamah......" (By sis mawaddah and answered by Umm Sulaim)
52. Ok next one give us a hadeeth that tells us not to be jealous of our fellow muslim and not to raise the prices on one another and not to hate eachother........
"laa ta7aasaduu wa laa tanaajashuu wa laa tabaaghdhuu...alhadeeth. (By Umm Sulaim and answered by sis Mawaddah)
53. Bring Hadeeths which show the status of Parents.... (By sis Mawaddah and answered by Umm Sulaim)
54. What are thre sunnahs of reading qur'aan? (By Umm Sulaim and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen)

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55. " What is sunnah in majlis ta'lim? " (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by ….no one)
56. "Do we wear the watch on our right or left hand?Please bring daleel insha Allah" (By Bro Dhulqrnaeen and answered by Bro Mazed)

No questions in page 28 and page 29
Page 30
57. "TELL ME SUNNAH IN YAWNING"??? (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by Umm Sulaim and sis Amirah)

Page 31
58. Is it Sunnah for a man to wear a ring ? (By sis Amirah and answered by bro Iqram)
59. Whats the sunnah of sitting down with a group of people? How do you aproacch them? Where do you sit? okkeeeeh. i'm waiting for the answers inshaAllah (By sis Nawal and answered by bro Iqram, sis Amirah, Umm Sulaim and bro Mazed)
60. Please provide Daleel for the sunnah of eating.
Mainly: 1.How much should be ate?
2.Who has priority when it comes to eating?
ie; the neighbour/the children/the mother (By bro Mazed and answered by Sis Mawaddah)

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61.What was the Sunnah of Rasulullah when releiving himself? errr.......or should I say, what are the etiquettes of going to the bathroom? (By sis MAwaddah and answered by bro mazed)
62. Next:
What is the sunnah regarding clothing?
1. How many clothes should we keep?
2. What invocations should be said when putting on/taking off clothes? (By bro Mazed and answered by sis haji_helena)
63. Sunnah of the hair? (By sis haji_helena and answered by sis Mawaddah)
64. What is the Sunnah when cleaning a bowl from which a dog has drank.......and also from which a Cat has Drank? (By sis MAwaddah and answered by sis Amirah)

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65. GIMME ANYTHING YOU KNOW OF ON THE SALAAT AS-SAFR (AL-QASR)...?? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Nawal, sis MAwaddah and bro Dhulqarnaeen)
66. If you're travelling how long is it allowed for you to do mash alal khuffain (wiping over your socks)? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Amirah

Page34
67. next question: what's the sunnah on doing a disappearing act
just kiddin'...
NEXT QUESTION: what are the things that nulify your wuduu....and if you can come with a daleel.. (By Amirah and answered by bro Mazed)
68. Next: What is the sunnah of genorisity (sry if this has been done) (by Bro Mazed and answered by Umm Sulaim)
69. InshaAllah next one sunnah on how to treat the orphans? (By Umm Sulaim and answered by sis Amirah )

No questions in page 35
Page 36
70. what are all the ettiquettes/mannerisms of preparing for the jum3ah prayer ?
or anything you know about this day and it's benefits & virtues...
what's the reward of going to the masjid early....are you allowed to speak in the khutbah....... (By sis Amirah and answered by Umm Sulaim)
71. the sunnah of hijrah...it's conditions..etc..anything you guys got inshaAllah (By sis Amirah and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen, sis Mawaddah and Umm Sulaim)

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72. when a person makes hijrah to a muslim country, can he/she go back to the land he made hijrah from or not???..???? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah)

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73. What are the etiquettes and Adab of Greeting someone? (By sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen and Umm Sulaim)

Page 39
74. next one is sunnah for sleeping inshaAllah hope it hasn't been asked lol....(By Umm Sulaim and answered by sis Nidita, sis Mawaddah and bro Dhulqarnaeen)
75. And, plz... give me da SUNNAH 4 JOURNEY, inshaAllaah ! (By sis Nidita and answered by bro Sameer)
76. What is the Sunnah when conducting an argument/ debate (By sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen and Umm Sulaim)
77. Next one inshAllah Sunnah for entering a house (By Umm Sulaim and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen and sis Amirah)

Page 40
78. "Sunnah of treating your elders!!??" (by Sis Amirah and answered by bro Mazed)
79. Next: What is the sunnah of restricting the tongue? (By bro Mazed and answered by Umm Sulaim and sis Mawaddah)
80. What is the Sunnah/etiquettes of Dressing? (By sis Mawaddah and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen)

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81. "Tell me the sunnah in wearing our sandals in which occasion?, how should we wearing it? What kinda sandal that allowed to men and women? And daleels insha Allah." (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by sis Amirah, sis Mawaddah and bro Sameer)


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82. What is the Sunnah in the wearing of the 3imaamah (Turban). (By sis mawaddah and answered by Umm Sulaim)

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83. Next one sunnah of tajmeel, making yoursef beautiful. (By sis Umm Sulaim and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen, i_am_tipu and sis mawaddah)

No questions in page 44
Page 45
84. HE said : - Before we go hajj, then do walimatus safar, is it sunnah? Or tradition?
- and then we should ask for everybodies forgiveness
- and then we have to write wasiat to our family that we leave.
- and there are du'a in thawaf, I mean theres certain dua when we around kabah for the first circling and second and all. Is it sunnah. please explain to me insha Allah. . (By Bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by sis Mawaddah and Umm Sulaim).

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85. "Tell me the sunnah to be IMAM in SALAH?!? Ok, thats the question (By bro Dhulqarnaeen and answered by Umm Sulaim, sis Nidita, bro i_m_tipu)
86. Next question inshaAllah : sunnah of zuhd (asceticism) (By Umm Sulaim and answered by sis Amirah)
87. Next question InshaAllah:The Sunnah of giving charity!? ( how you should give it, & to whom...etc) (By sis Amirah and answered by chacha_jalebi and Umm Sulaim)

Page 47
88. Well....... can u give me da sunnah of BATHING, inshaAllaah, PLZZZZZ........ ??!!!! (By sis Nidita (in page 46) and answered by bro i_m_tipu and Umm Sulaim)

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89. sunnah in writing letters. (By Umm Sulaim and answered by sis Mawaddah and sis Amirah)
90. The Sunnah of treating/accomodating a Guest/traveller!!?? (By sis Amirah and answered by sis Mawaddah and sis Amirah)
91. What is the Sunnah and Adab for a Teacher towards his Students? ( By sis Mawaddah and answered by Umm Sulaim)
92. What is the Sunnah when following a leader? (By sis Mawaddah and answered by Umm Sulaim and bro Dhulqarnaeen)

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93. next question: Sunnah of Brotherhood giving examples and stuff inshaAllah... (By Umm Sulaim and answered by bro Dhulqarnaeen)


My opinion:1. The most enthusiasm person to keep the thread going: Sis Amirah and Mawaddah -hafidhahamallah-.
2. The best explainer to the questions: Sis Mawaddah -hafidhahalah-.
3. The most wara' in explaining: Umm Sulaim -hafidhahallah-.(Cause rarely icons, thats great cause far from fitnah, masha Allah) ............ Do U have another opinions? :D
[PIE]Ok guys, lets keep the thread alive, and keep the spirit burnt[/PIE]
jazakumullah alfun alfun khayr.
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amirah_87
08-23-2006, 12:04 PM
As salaamu alaykum,

2. And hadith "help your bro who is zhalim and got zhalim-ed (Its arabic english )". ;D
The hadeeth is: Unsur akhaaka dhaaliman aw madhluuman.. help your brother whether he's the opressor or the opressed...

Mmm...some addition from you guys insha Allah will manfaat
InshaAllah, we'll try to add what we know!!..

..collecting what happenend on the 49pg of this thread must have taken you a long time right!!? :?
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umm-sulaim
08-23-2006, 01:54 PM
MashaAllah nice summary akhaana Dhul, thanks for your encourahging words too..

sister amira wants to add
Supporting eachother
"al mu'min lil mu'min kal bunyaan yashuddu ba3dhuhum ba3dhaa"
the beleiver to the other is like structure, they support eachother...

I'll add some too inshaAllah...

Telling our brothers we love them

3an miqdaad bin ma3dee karib that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "if you love your brother then tell him that you love him"
Sheikh Al-banee ra7imahullah put this hadeeth in his sa7ee7a

Making du'aa for our brothers in their absence

Hadeeth umm dardaa that she heard the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam say " verily the du'aa of a muslim for another in his absence is answered, above his head is a guardian angel, everytime he makes du'aa for his brother in good the angel says ameen wa laka bi mithil, o Allah answer his du'aa and the same to you"
hadeeth is in muslim.

Accepting their gifts

Abee hurayrah radhiyaAllahu anhu narrated that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "tahaaduu ta7aabbuu"
give to eachother so that you may love one another"
This hadeeth has kalaam around it but sheikh albanee declared it hassan, and we too that it has asl and that its meaning is sa7ee7...
(if any of you have more on its si77ah let us know plz)


wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-23-2006, 05:14 PM
Whoa Bro Dhul :eek: I can't beleive you actually summarized the questions like that! must've taken you hours........ :-\

My opinion:1. The most enthusiasm person to keep the thread going: Sis Amirah and Mawaddah -hafidhahamallah-.
2. The best explainer to the questions: Sis Mawaddah -hafidhahalah-.
3. The most wara' in explaining: Umm Sulaim -hafidhahallah-.(Cause rarely icons, thats great cause far from fitnah, masha Allah) ............ Do U have another opinions?
Also :
The ones who go off topic most , amirah_87 :mad: and Mawaddah :-[ and also Brother Dhul :p ;D

Nice answers though Brother Dhul and umm-sulaim :thumbs_up......

So Next question please!! :D

Although I most probably wont be able to answer it :cry:
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-24-2006, 06:30 AM
:sl:
Lol...writing the summary take me about 2 weeks :D I did it little by little, lol. And Im wondering what happening to bro Abdmajid, hafidhahullah. And I did it just for fun, eventhough we are doing murajaah here, nothing wrong if we make the thread have some fun insha Allah, as long as its still in the limit of syar'i.
I just feel happy I can learn together with my salafy bro and sis, masha Allah you all just like a needle in straw, masha Allah.
So whats the next question? I dont see any? ^o)
Ok then, I will go the next question then: TELL ME SUNNAH THAT WE SHOULD DO CONCERN DAJJAL.

Talking about Dajjal, do U guys know that theres a man in Bangladesh, or India :? I forget, his name is Beghawan Sri satya sai baba. And it said he ca raise dead body and make a rain. ^o) And the book said some muslims came to advice him but those muslims became his follower :uuh: I was wondering wether he is the dajjal? :rollseyes But Im thinking again thru the evidence of the coming of dajjal, theres no proves dajjal is coming, so tahts mean he is not the dajjal mentioned in hadith. Allahu A'lam. Just sharing information with you guys insha Allah. I just take ibrah from it. He is not dajjal, but some muslims have became his followers, Im sure this muslims is awwam, and even if theyre asatidhah or something, then they cant be salaf. Cause from hadiths we all know, only a true salafy jamaah ahlulhadith who can recognize this dajjal and protected from him, may Allah make us strong on this right path, amin.
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umm-sulaim
08-24-2006, 09:42 AM
Wa alaykuma salaam wa ra7matullah,

na3uudhu billah, thats kinda scary subhanaAllah, but guys remember Dajjaal is from the 3alaamat al kubraa right...
and the rpophet alayhi salaam did say "layakununnaa thalathuuna kadhaabuun"
there will be 30 great liars...
(there are more but the 3ulamaa said that these wil be the ones with a large number of followers)

and do you guys remeber the story of that little boy at the time of the prophet that was called Ibn Sayyaad, the one that claimed he was the prophet?
the prophet said innamaa huwa dajjaal , verily he is nothing but a liar, and then the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam saw him sleeping under the tree, and wanted to go closer to hear what he says in his sleep, but Ibn Sayyaads mum saw, and woke her son up, the prophet alayhi alaatu wassalaam said, if i were to get nearer i would have known if he was real, aw bi hadhal ma3na...

akhaanaa Dhul is right, its 3ibrah though.... na3uudhu billah min sharrihee!! thx for sharing that with us

TELL ME SUNNAH THAT WE SHOULD DO CONCERN DAJJAL.
1. seeking refuge in Allah from him

Aisha radhiya Allahu anha said she heard the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalam seek refuge from the trial of the dajjaal in prayer.
muslim

and hadeeth abee hurayrah radhiya ALlahu anhu that the prophet in his tashahhud sought refuge in Allah from four...and from them was the trial of the dajjaal.
bukhari and muslim

this is all i can remember guys....

wassalaam

Descriptions of Dajjaal

In hadeeth Abdullahi bin 3umar, the prophet alayhi salaaatu wassalaam saw a vision of Eesa alayhi salaam.....then he saw a stout man, with too much curly hair and his right eye was blind and swollen like a floating grape...
muslim

also hadeeth Jaabir radhiya Allahu anhu that the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said there is not a prophet that Allah has sent and hasn't warned his people about the Dajjaal, and verily it has been made clear to me, what hasn't been made clear to no other,verily he is blind (in one eye) and your lord isn't blind.
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Mawaddah
08-24-2006, 10:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
:sl:
Lol...writing the summary take me about 2 weeks :D I did it little by little, lol.
Ooooooh I thought you did it in one sitting :D masha'allah that's nice of you.

format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
And Im wondering what happening to bro Abdmajid, hafidhahullah.
Well for some reason, I dont know why, He asked the moderators to ban him from this forum.......so we're one member less Allahul Musta3aan :(

format_quote Originally Posted by Dhulqarnaeen
Ok then, I will go the next question then: TELL ME SUNNAH THAT WE SHOULD DO CONCERN DAJJAL.
Ok in addition to what umm-sulaim said, isn't there the hadeeth also in which Rasulullah asked us to read the Beginning ten verses of Surah al-Kahf, on the evening of every Jumu'ah, and he said that whoever does this then he will be protected from the Dajjal. :)

As for that Bangladeshi man, then I think that he is just a freak maybe ;D It's just hilarious though, just another test for the Muslims Wallahu A3lam........Is he really hairy? Because the Dajjal is supposed to be hairy right ;D

*sorry I'm just really laughing over here :X *

But like how ukhti al habibah umm sulaim said, he's just most probably a Dajjal in the meaning of "Liar"

Umm sulaim do you remember that Saying by some Ulama? I can't remember who? ( I can never remember who :offended: ) But he was talking about that Indian man, he said " Ratinun al Hindi........wa Maa Adraaka Man Ratin? Dajjaalun min ad-Dajaajilah, Idda3a assuhbata ba3da an-nabiyyi bi thalaathu mi'at sanah!! "

I loved the way Aisha said it :wub:

for the other people out there, it means : Ratin al-Hindi, and what do you know about Ratin? He was a Dajjal from the other Dajaajilah (plural of Dajjal) he claimed to be a Sahaabah 300 years after Rasulullahs death!!

Oh yes and also the hadeeth in which Rasulullah said that if Any one of us was to live in the time when the Dajjal comes, then we should never go out to meet him, because the powers which he will have will be so great, that a person with very strong Iman will turn weak......

May Allah protect us from that Amin.

Ok i'm finished with going off topic :hiding:

OK next question!!

What is the Sunnah when slaughtering an animal :)

Wassalam
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umm-sulaim
08-24-2006, 10:34 PM
oh ukhtee...you remeber that? subhanAllah... :) kidtu an ansaa...

mashaallah mashaAllah...nice mudhaakarah (reminder) for us, umm Abdillah gave us that faa'idah, Allahul musta3aan i don't remember the qaa'il sis...should be in my baa3ith fawaa'id somewhere... it wasn't ibnu mubarak was it?

i like the way sheikh yahya used to say about one of the liars in the sanad (chain) of hadeeth (sadly forgot his name) mu3tazaliyyun qadariyyun jahmee...kullu balaa'un feeh!

sis maw....isbiree naahee imma answer your answer ok 3amma qareeb...

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-24-2006, 10:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
oh ukhtee...you remeber that? subhanAllah... :) kidtu an ansaa...

mashaallah mashaAllah...nice mudhaakarah (reminder) for us, umm Abdillah gave us that faa'idah, Allahul musta3aan i don't remember the qaa'il sis...should be in my baa3ith fawaa'id somewhere... it wasn't ibnu mubarak was it?

i like the way sheikh yahya used to say about one of the liars in the sanad (chain) of hadeeth (sadly forgot his name) mu3tazaliyyun qadariyyun jahmee...kullu balaa'un feeh!
sis maw....isbiree naahee imma answer your answer ok 3amma qareeb...

wassalaam
Oooooooh and I love the way Aishah hafidhahallah used to say the haal of the rijaal!!! it used to be like she was singing it right? Masha'allah :wub:

and Sheikh Yahya toooooo and Sheikh Muqbil was the best toooooooo :'( :'( Rahimahullah Amin :wub:

Yeah I think the Qaa'il about that thing of ratin was some Ibn...but I can't remember which Ibn :-[ Allahul Musta3aan.
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umm-sulaim
08-24-2006, 11:36 PM
Yeah absolutely.....*yakaadu qalbee an yaqrah min mudhakiratu oulaa'ik al fudhalaa*
like she'd say 7afidhaha Allah "wa feehi layth wa huwa ibnu abee sulaim, mudallsiun... wa qad 3aan 3aaaan"
her whole kalaam was sing song so beautiful subhana Allah.... and one of the best had to be "ajabti wa asabti baaraka Allahu feeki"

Sunnah in slaughtering:


Being swift

3an abee ya3laa shaddaad bin aws radhiya Allahu anhu, the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "verily Allah has written al ihsaan for everything, so if you kill then kill in the best way,and if you slaughter slaughter in the best way, and one is ordered to sharpen his weapon and to relax the animal"
muslim

permissability of using anything that lets the blood flow

Rafi3 bin khadeej radhiya Allahu anhu narrated that he said o messenger of Allah verily tommorow we meet the enemy and we do not have any knives, the prophet said be sure you prepare that which will make the blood flow and say bismillaah..
muslim

Not using the tooth or the nail to slaughter

In the same hadeeth the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said:
"and not the tooth or nail, as for the tooth because it is a bone, an as for the nail because its the knife of the abyssinians"

this is all i rememeber...

wassalaam
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-25-2006, 02:15 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah

As for that Bangladeshi man, then I think that he is just a freak maybe ;D It's just hilarious though, just another test for the Muslims Wallahu A3lam........Is he really hairy? Because the Dajjal is supposed to be hairy right ;D

*sorry I'm just really laughing over here :X *

But like how ukhti al habibah umm sulaim said, he's just most probably a Dajjal in the meaning of "Liar"

Umm sulaim do you remember that Saying by some Ulama? I can't remember who? ( I can never remember who :offended: ) But he was talking about that Indian man, he said " Ratinun al Hindi........wa Maa Adraaka Man Ratin? Dajjaalun min ad-Dajaajilah, Idda3a assuhbata ba3da an-nabiyyi bi thalaathu mi'at sanah!! "

I loved the way Aisha said it :wub:

for the other people out there, it means : Ratin al-Hindi, and what do you know about Ratin? He was a Dajjal from the other Dajaajilah (plural of Dajjal) he claimed to be a Sahaabah 300 years after Rasulullahs death!!

Oh yes and also the hadeeth in which Rasulullah said that if Any one of us was to live in the time when the Dajjal comes, then we should never go out to meet him, because the powers which he will have will be so great, that a person with very strong Iman will turn weak......

May Allah protect us from that Amin.

Ok i'm finished with going off topic :hiding:

OK next question!!

What is the Sunnah when slaughtering an animal :)

Wassalam
:sl:
First, my friend brought a book about this dajjal, and like usual he showed me and asked me "Is he really a Dajjal akh?", and then I took the book and I read some of them. And so this sai baba lookedlike an Indian, big built and have this hair like an african, U know wat I mean? This huge rounded hair like bee's nest :D . And its said he could raise someone who is dead, can bring the rain, can heal the sickness, and he has large followers by now. And so muslims there sent their ulama (ulama only to them I think, Allahu a'lam) but these ulama became his followers :rant: , so I thought right, I was a bit shocked too to read the book, cause the characteristic some of them just fit with the hadith, you know right about raising the death, can bring the rain, its realy the characteristic of dajjal right. But then I thikn again, it could be sihr or colaboration between jins and human, and I also think Imam Mahdi still unexist now, and we still have those heavy weapons, cause in hadith we will have this big armageddon war between Imam Mahdi and Dajjal with horses and swords. So theres no nuclear and M16 or whatnot. And I also think this dajjal have normal eyes (the book got his pic) and if he really a dajjal we could read 'kafeer" on his forehead. After examining that I became calmer cause its definitely not Al Masihud dajjal, but he is just like sis Mawaddah and Umm Sulaim said, one of those dajjalun kadhdhabun.
I just think its no a masihid dajal right? But there are muslims being his follower already, how if its really him :rollseyes Thats why I was a little bit shocked :D. Cause of the fitnah is so biiiigggggg right, and theres no goarantees we can escape from this fitnah :-\ . Just tholibul ilm, study and study and do whatever can save us from his fitnah. Thats why we have to seek protection from his fitnah after tasyahud.
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Dhulqarnaeen
08-25-2006, 02:36 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
Yeah absolutely.....*yakaadu qalbee an yaqrah min mudhakiratu oulaa'ik al fudhalaa*
like she'd say 7afidhaha Allah "wa feehi layth wa huwa ibnu abee sulaim, mudallsiun... wa qad 3aan 3aaaan"
her whole kalaam was sing song so beautiful subhana Allah.... and one of the best had to be "ajabti wa asabti baaraka Allahu feeki"

Sunnah in slaughtering:


Being swift

3an abee ya3laa shaddaad bin aws radhiya Allahu anhu, the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said "verily Allah has written al ihsaan for everything, so if you kill then kill in the best way,and if you slaughter slaughter in the best way, and one is ordered to sharpen his weapon and to relax the animal"
muslim

permissability of using anything that lets the blood flow

Rafi3 bin khadeej radhiya Allahu anhu narrated that he said o messenger of Allah verily tommorow we meet the enemy and we do not have any knives, the prophet said be sure you prepare that which will make the blood flow and say bismillaah..
muslim

Not using the tooth or the nail to slaughter

In the same hadeeth the rpophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam said:
"and not the tooth or nail, as for the tooth because it is a bone, an as for the nail because its the knife of the abyssinians"

this is all i rememeber...

wassalaam
:sl:
Umm Sulaim, you forgot one thing thats really important about slaughtering animal :uhwhat Ya'ni saying "bismillah". And hadith said:" From Ali bin Abu Thalib radhiallahu anhu, he said:"Rasulullah shalallahu alaihi wasallam told me four kalimah: Allah will curse someone who slaughter animal to something beside Allah, Allah will curse someone who curse their own parents, Allah will curse someone who give protection to ahlul bid'ah, and Allah will curse someone who change the line of the land". (Muslim)
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umm-sulaim
08-25-2006, 10:36 AM
ooopsie..... Allahul musta3aan, baaraka Allahu feek akhaanaa Dhul,
"Dhaalika fadhlul Allahi yu'teehi man yashaa"
manaafi3 al ukhuwwah...

wassalaam
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Mawaddah
08-25-2006, 03:40 PM
No one gave the next Question? :-\
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umm-sulaim
08-25-2006, 05:04 PM
LOol oh my, how come you didn't shout this time lol....jum'uah musta done you some good hehe.... just kiddin' mon!

ok i'll ask the next question....

Sunnah of poetry

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-25-2006, 09:09 PM
As salaamu alaykum,

What is this Dajjaal stuff all about..LOL!!

I remeber that it was said that all toghether in this Ummah there will be sumthing like 13 or so Dajjal's A few of them would be women and the rest male,,
but "DAJJAL" here means an Imposter one who cheats/decieves...not The Big Main Dajjal...isn't it!!..

anyways...
Sunnah of poetry
I know that The Prophet sallalaahu 3alayhi wasallam used to say alot of stuff poeticly..but The Ulamaah..(and Allahu a3lam..:X) have said that it is not allowed to attach the siffah "Shaa3ir/Poet" to Him.. I can't remember exactly why..
I also know that the shi3ir/poems are Jaaiz maa lam yakun feehi takalluf/allowed as long as ir does'nt exceed its legal capacity..and Allahu ta3aalaa knows best...

one of the Ahaadeeth that have a shi3ir in it is when the Prophet sallalaahu 3alayhi wasallam was digging the trenches yawm khandaq he said..

wallahi lawlalaahu ma'htadaynaa....wa laa sumnaa wa laa sallaynaa

wa anzilan sakeenatn 3alaynaa..... wa thabitt al-aqdaama in laqayna

wal mushrikeena qad baghoy 3alayna.. idhaa araadu fitnata abayna

wa karrara .abaynaa abaynaa abaynaa!!

and also a few others. :)
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umm-sulaim
08-25-2006, 10:12 PM
nice answer sis baqiyah baqiyah... :)

maw fellow poet hayyaa lol

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-26-2006, 12:53 AM
As salaamu alaykum,

There's also A hadeeth that has in it that The Prophet sallalaahu 3alayhi wassallam injured his lil' finger in one of the ghazwaat, and the he saidL:

Hal anti illaa usbu3in damitii...wa fee sabelillaahi maa laqeetee..

(ma qadrt fee al-translation :rollseyes laa tu"rant"uunee..tayyib :X)

....And also the famous qawl of his :

"Ana an Nabbiy La Kadhib.................. Ana ibnu 3abdil Muttalib"

That's kaafin right Umm sulaim...InshaAllah Mawaddah smight dish out some more!! :)
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Mawaddah
08-26-2006, 12:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by umm-sulaim
LOol oh my, how come you didn't shout this time lol....jum'uah musta done you some good hehe.... just kiddin' mon!

ok i'll ask the next question....

Sunnah of poetry

wassalaam
Ahahahahaha ;D ;D You dont Really want me to yell at you guys do you?


Naah, I was just tired o'yellin at you peoples.......a waste o'ma breath coz you peoples never understand:uhwhat :uhwhat



I'm kiddingggggggggggg;D :p

So about Shi3r, like how our Dear Ukht Princess said, the Ulama said we may not say that Rasulullah was a Shaa3ir......Allahu A3lam why though?:? I dont know whether it has anything to do with the Ayat : " Wash Shu3araa'u Yattabi3uhumul Ghaawuun " (As for the poets, the ones who are in error follow them ) In surah Shu3araa' :?

But it is allowed Because RAsulullah used to say Shi3r, and also he used to stay silent and not protest when he heard people saying Shi3r........Only unless it went against Islaam.

An example of when Rasullullah Aqarr (agreed) with Shi3r was when the man came to Rasulullah ( I forget his name....sorry :-\) and said :

Rajulun wa Thawrun Tahta Rijli Yameenihi
Wan Nasru Lil Ukhraa Wa Laythun Mursadi

Wash Shamsu Tadla3u Kulli Aakhira Laylatin
Sahraa'u Tusbihu lawnuhaa yatawarradu

Ta'baa Famaa Tatla3u lanaa fee rislihaa
Illa Mu3adhdhibatan wa illaa tujladu


And then Rasulullah said " Sadaqta"


An example of when Rasulullah forbade someone from reciting Shi3r, was when he heard some slave girls of a Sahaabi reciting praises unto him, and when they said the verses " And he is a Prophet who knows the future" And so He reprimanded them.

Any extra fawaa'id Umm sulaim? :)
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umm-sulaim
08-26-2006, 12:57 PM
masha Allah nice good ajwibah

i'll add a little, laakin al yawm dawru mabthouthatinaa lol.. la tureeduni an aktub kunyatiha lol...

whats your kunyah anyway and nawaals?

yeah and the reason for not calling the prophet alayhi salaatu wassalaam shaa3ir is for the reason you mentioned mawaddah, thats what i remember too sis...

nice collection of poems ya banaat!

wassalaam
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amirah_87
08-26-2006, 01:15 PM
As salaamu aalykum,

mabthouthatinaa lol.. la tureeduni an aktub kunyatiha lol...
Haar-De-Haar-Haaar!! :rollseyes :rollseyes

That was good sister Maw' ..I'll do the next question InshaAllah..

Q:Sunnah Of Repenting/Tawbah...
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amirah_87
08-26-2006, 10:04 PM
As salaamu aalykum,

I've got a question to ask you sisters inshaAllah...(a lil' off topic but i need to remember it)
the bayt that had the 3ashara mubashereen bil Jannah in it...does anyone remember it prpoerly..i soughta do but not all of it....here's what i got yeah...

Lil Mustafaa nassun ......................................

fee jannatil khuldi nassan zaadahum sharafa..

Hum talhatun wa ibn 3awfin waz zubayr ma3aa..

abaa 3ubaydat was-sa3dayn wal khulafaa...


i can't remebr the first line..check the rest for me aswell

BarakAllahu feekunna guys!! :peace:
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Mawaddah
08-26-2006, 10:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
As salaamu aalykum,

I've got a question to ask you sisters inshaAllah...(a lil' off topic but i need to remember it)
the bayt that had the 3ashara mubashereen bil Jannah in it...does anyone remember it prpoerly..i soughta do but not all of it....here's what i got yeah...

Lil Mustafaa nassun ......................................

fee jannatil khuldi nassan zaadahum sharafa..

Hum talhatun wa ibn 3awfin waz zubayr ma3aa..

abaa 3ubaydat was-sa3dayn wal khulafaa...


i can't remebr the first line..check the rest for me aswell

BarakAllahu feekunna guys!! :peace:
Oh Masha'allah Great Question, I never had this bayt properly memorized you know. But Hafsah knows it. This is how it goes :

Lil Mustafaa Khayru Suhbin Nussa annahumu

Fee Jannaatil Khuldi Haqqan Zaadahum Sharafaa

Wa humu at-Talhatu Wabnu 3awfin waz Zubairu Ma3an

Kadhaaka Abu 3ubaidata Was-Sa3dayni Walkhulafaa2.




The one I memorized from Layla went like this though :



3aliyyun Wath Thalaathatu Wabna 3awfin

Wa Talhata minhumu wa Kadhaa sa3eedun

Kadhaaka Abu 3ubaidata fahuwa minhum

Wa Sa3dun Waz Zubairu wa laa Mazeedu


YOu doing revision on poetry Princess? :)
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amirah_87
08-26-2006, 11:06 PM
As salaamu alaykum,

Lil Mustafaa Khayru Suhbin Nussa annahumu

Fee Jannaatil Khuldi Haqqan Zaadahum Sharafaa

Wa humu at-Talhatu Wabnu 3awfin waz Zubairu Ma3an

Kadhaaka Abu 3ubaidata Was-Sa3dayni W
alkhulafaa2.
Ookay that's how it went hey!!...jazaakillahu khayr mawaddah. I were'nt that far out alhamdulillah....as long i got all 10 men in looool!! ;D

very good poem mashaAllah...

The one I memorized from Layla went like this though :



3aliyyun Wath Thalaathatu Wabna 3awfin

Wa Talhata minhumu wa Kadhaa sa3eedun

Kadhaaka Abu 3ubaidata fahuwa minhum

Wa Sa3dun Waz Zubairu wa laa Mazeedu
I heard of this one too, but i like the other better..and also cuase I memorised that one first...it's would confuse me if i's memorise this too...you know what I mean!!?? :rollseyes ;D

YOu doing revision on poetry Princess?
Oh no.... i just thought of it when I came across this 3asharah mubashreen thread somewhere here....been rackin my brains out for it....:-\

thanks for completeing/correcting it Ukhtee!!... :)
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Mawaddah
08-26-2006, 11:10 PM
^ No Prob sis!! But as for me I'm just the opposite from you concerning these poems you know, I memorized the "layla" one first, 3aliyyun wath Thalaathatu........etc. And that was the one I had known for 3 years.
And then I went to Haajar bint Qaayid Shu3laans Aqeedah Waasitiyyah Class and she gave us the other one.........but I never bothered to memorize it properly because I would get mixed up with the first one :p

Anyway.......khair insha'allah :) back on topic........I'm not exactly in the mood to answer your question sorry :D :D :D Mumkin Ba3dayn :p
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