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muslim_friend
06-27-2006, 01:51 AM
Salaam.

I have taken German for my next sem. So need help, how to go about it. I am fluent in English and I know a bit of French. how do i start with german, where do i start?

JazakAllah khair in advance.
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lolwatever
06-27-2006, 02:01 AM
achtung: german not easy, so says my friend.
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muslim_friend
06-27-2006, 05:12 AM
Originally Posted by lolwatever
achtung: german not easy, so says my friend.
I had to choose between german and japanese. At first, i checked the japanese script and almost fainted! ;D ..so, that's why i took German.. looks easier to me.
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lolwatever
06-27-2006, 07:36 AM
hehe all the best bro, wish i could help, all i can say is knowing the english alphabet might giv u a headstart with the german alphabet :p
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Umu 'Isa
06-27-2006, 07:39 AM
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oh i did german in school.. its hard! good luck akhi!
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glo
06-27-2006, 07:42 AM
Originally Posted by muslim_friend
Salaam.

I have taken German for my next sem. So need help, how to go about it. I am fluent in English and I know a bit of French. how do i start with german, where do i start?

JazakAllah khair in advance.
I am fluent in German, perhaps I can help you.
I'm not sure how or where to start though.
What are you aiming for? To get some preparation done before you start the course? Are you still at school? Which year are you in?

My daughter started German in school last year ... I will ask her how they first started.

German grammar is a pain ... but I wouldn't worry about that to start with!

I'll get back to you. :thankyou:
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muslim_friend
06-27-2006, 04:09 PM
Originally Posted by glo
I am fluent in German, perhaps I can help you.
I'm not sure how or where to start though.
What are you aiming for? To get some preparation done before you start the course? Are you still at school? Which year are you in?

My daughter started German in school last year ... I will ask her how they first started.

German grammar is a pain ... but I wouldn't worry about that to start with!

I'll get back to you. :thankyou:
Ah! Excellent! thank you glo! i will appreciate all the help i can get.

Yes, i'm a college student, who will be going to his second year on the 13th or 14th after having finished his exams in style (badly, of course).. the thing is, i want to start studying from this moment, because second year is going to be very very tough for me.. *sigh*.Unfortunately, the library does not issue books during the holidays, so i have to rely on the net for resources.

I just need some tips on how to start studying you know.. for example, when i started learning french in school, the teachers concentrated on the verbs first.. 'I am, You are".. etc. As time happened to pass, we started becoming more and more fluent in french.. like calling others ..'You are idiot...' and so on. Lol.

So some tips on how to start, what to watch out for, and give more attention to, would be very helpful.

Thanks..
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Woodrow
06-27-2006, 07:43 PM
Ich habe Deutsche in der schooler gelernt.

Actually if you are familiar with English, much of German will look and sound familiar. The German Classes I took stressed vocabulary the first 2 semesters and then after that concentrated on grammar rules. It seemed to work a little bit for me. I still remember some of it.
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glo
06-27-2006, 07:54 PM
Okay, bearing in mind that my daughter is younger (12), this is how they started:
1. Intoducting yourself
2. Describing yourself and others
3. Describing your hobbies
4. Numbers
5. Then schooly stuff (such as lesson plan, school subjects)
6. Directions
7. Food! ;D

What do make of this? See if you can get the gist of the conversation:

A: Hallo.
B: Guten Tag.
A: Wie heisst du?
B: Ich heisse Ali. Und du?
A: Markus. Wie geht es dir?
B: Mir geht es gut.

:)
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glo
06-27-2006, 08:38 PM
Hey, that's not bad at all! ;D

Ich habe einen Kuli und drei Radiergummis! - I have one biro and three erasers

Ich sehe gern fern. - I like to watch TV

Haben sie fünf Äpfel? - Do you have five apples?

Nein.
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lolwatever
06-28-2006, 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by glo
Okay, bearing in mind that my daughter is younger (12), this is how they started:
1. Intoducting yourself
2. Describing yourself and others
3. Describing your hobbies
4. Numbers
5. Then schooly stuff (such as lesson plan, school subjects)
6. Directions
7. Food! ;D

What do make of this? See if you can get the gist of the conversation:

A: Hallo.
B: Guten Tag.
A: Wie heisst du?
B: Ich heisse Ali. Und du?
A: Markus. Wie geht es dir?
B: Mir geht es gut.
:)
That's how they taught (or tried to teach) me french and i got 15% for my final mark .... cool ha? lol ok back 2 to german.. enjoy fellas
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muslim_friend
06-28-2006, 12:49 AM
Right! so it's vocabulary before grammar is it?.. sounds fine.

Originally Posted by glo
What do make of this? See if you can get the gist of the conversation:

A: Hallo.
B: Guten Tag.
A: Wie heisst du?
B: Ich heisse Ali. Und du?
A: Markus. Wie geht es dir?
B: Mir geht es gut.

:)
hallo-Hello!

Guten tag-Good morning (thnx Alpha Dude ;D )

Wie heisst du?-Who are you?

ich heisse Ali.Und du?-I am Ali. And You are?

Markus.Wie geht es dir?- Markus. I didn't understand the second part. 'where are you going?' is it?

Mir geht es gut.-- Err.. what's that? :D

By the way, when transalating to german, are there name changes as well?..Like the English name 'William' is renamed 'Guilluame' in french.

From Alpha Dude's post, i noticed an excessive usage of the Z alphabet. is it always that way in the language? and why? How on earth does one pronounce something that starts with Z :?
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glo
06-28-2006, 06:09 AM
Originally Posted by muslim_friend
Right! so it's vocabulary before grammar is it?.. sounds fine.



hallo-Hello!

Guten tag-Good morning (thnx Alpha Dude ;D )

Wie heisst du?-Who are you?

ich heisse Ali.Und du?-I am Ali. And You are?
Cool! BTW, 'Guten Tag' really means 'good day' ... so it can be used all day, not just in the morning.

Markus.Wie geht es dir?- Markus. I didn't understand the second part. 'where are you going?' is it?

Mir geht es gut.-- Err.. what's that? :D
'Wie geht es dir?' - 'How are you?' (Directly translated it would be closer to 'How goes it [with] you?')

Consequently, 'Mir geht es gut' means .... ?? :rollseyes

By the way, when transalating to german, are there name changes as well?..Like the English name 'William' is renamed 'Guilluame' in french.
Yes, it may be interesting to look at different names in different languages.
William = Wilhelm

From Alpha Dude's post, i noticed an excessive usage of the Z alphabet. is it always that way in the language? and why? How on earth does one pronounce something that starts with Z :?
An excessive usage of the letter 'Z'??? Call the police! ;D
I have not really thought about that ...

How to pronounce it?
It is a sharper sound than 's'.
For example.
sehen(to see) has a soft 's' (more like the english 'z', really. As in 'razor'). Both 'e's are pronouced as 'e' by the way (such as in the word 'bed'), not as 'ee'.

zehn(ten) has a sharp 's'. More like a 'ts' sound (like in the word 'pets')

Does that make sense at all? :?

More later ... :)
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glo
06-28-2006, 06:12 AM
Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Thanks Glo! :)

I did learn a bit of German in high school...

Let me try your criteria for learning:
Alpha Dude
You are too good!!! ;D ;D

I had thought we could cover those areas over, say, the next few weeks! ;D

If you want me to correct your mistakes, let me know. Right now I'm running out of time. :)

peace.
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muslim_friend
06-28-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by glo
Consequently, 'Mir geht es gut' means .... ?? :rollseyes
'I am fine', i suppose? :rollseyes .. Am i right? or am i right? ;D

How to pronounce it?
It is a sharper sound than 's'.
For example.
sehen(to see) has a soft 's' (more like the english 'z', really. As in 'razor'). Both 'e's are pronouced as 'e' by the way (such as in the word 'bed'), not as 'ee'.

zehn(ten) has a sharp 's'. More like a 'ts' sound (like in the word 'pets')

Does that make sense at all? :?
Perfect sense. Thank you.

More later ... :)
I'm looking forward to it. If i have any doubts, i'll post it here as well..

thanks for your help.

:thankyou:
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Umm___
06-28-2006, 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by glo
Okay, bearing in mind that my daughter is younger (12), this is how they started:
1. Intoducting yourself
2. Describing yourself and others
3. Describing your hobbies
4. Numbers
5. Then schooly stuff (such as lesson plan, school subjects)
6. Directions
7. Food! ;D

What do make of this? See if you can get the gist of the conversation:

A: Hallo.
B: Guten Tag.
A: Wie heisst du?
B: Ich heisse Ali. Und du?
A: Markus. Wie geht es dir?
B: Mir geht es gut.

:)
Deutsch and Nederlands are almost the same:happy:

Hallo= Hallo
Guten Tag= Goeden dag
Wie heißt du?= Hoe heet je?
Ich heiße Ali.Und du?= Ik heet Ali. En jij?
Markus. Wie geht es dir?= Markus. Hoe gaat het met jou?
Mir geht es gut= Met mij gaat het goed.

:w: /peace/ Auf Wiedersehen:giggling:
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glo
06-28-2006, 07:09 PM
Just a quick post to say I found this great site on German pronounciation:
http://www.ex.ac.uk/german/abinitio/pronounce/
You are going to need a speaker to listen to the words though ...

Have fun!
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SirZubair
06-28-2006, 07:12 PM
...i got 13% in my German exam.

i dont think i am qualified to post in this thread.

lol.
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glo
06-28-2006, 07:13 PM
Originally Posted by Umm Omar18
Deutsch and Nederlands are almost the same:happy:

Hallo= Hallo
Guten Tag= Goeden dag
Wie heißt du?= Hoe heet je?
Ich heiße Ali.Und du?= Ik heet Ali. En jij?
Markus. Wie geht es dir?= Markus.
Mir geht es gut= Met mij gaat het goed.

:w: /peace/ Auf Wiedersehen:giggling:
Hi Umm Omar

We had a Belgian sectretary at work, who taught me some Flemish.
I loved to say 'Hoe gaat het met jou?' to her in the morning ... it sounds so ... well, cute! :rollseyes :giggling:

I gather the Flemish pronunciation is slightly different from the Dutch one. She always told me off for saying the 'g' in 'gaat' to harshly ... making it sound like Dutch rather than Flemish. ;D

Please keep adding Dutch translations to this thread ... than I get to lear to! :thankyou:

peace.
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glo
06-28-2006, 07:15 PM
And here's a whole course in beginner's German, including sound files!

http://www.exeter.ac.uk/german/abinitio/index.html
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glo
06-28-2006, 07:22 PM
Originally Posted by SirZubair
...i got 13% in my German exam.

i dont think i am qualified to post in this thread.

lol.
Of course you can! ;D

See if this poem sounds familiar at all:

Ich blase ewig Seifenblasen,
hübsche Seifenblasen in die Luft,
sie fliegen so hoch,
erreichen fast den Himmel,
dann wie meine Träume,
verblassen und sterben sie.
Das Glück versteckt sich immer,
ich suchte überall,
ich blase ewig Seifenblasen,
hübsche Seifenblasen in die Luft.

:rollseyes
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SirZubair
06-28-2006, 07:25 PM
LOL !

All i remember is :

La Pissing ... :p

..oh wait,thats french for "the swimming pool" ;D
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muslim_friend
06-29-2006, 04:03 PM
The Links are nice.. :p .. so, thanks.
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