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Dahir
07-17-2006, 10:13 PM
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Look VERY carefully at that map.

The map indicates, that the biggest "terror" states are NOT Muslim.

If you're not good with geography, here's the TOP Nations with the most terror incidents, mostly internal!

Colombia
India
Greece
Angola
Nigeria
Yemen
Italy
Germany
Bosnia/Herzegovina


In the top nations, only Yemen is Predominately Muslim, with Bosnia and Nigeria just below 50%. So, who says "almost all terrorists are Muslim," when indeed the reality is that almost ZERO terrorists are Muslim.

It was estimated that even after 9/11, 98% of Terror attacks in 2002 were from Latin American drug cartels, yet they are called "Guerillas" and not "Terrorists."

Pity American Judgement!:uhwhat
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Woodrow
07-17-2006, 10:20 PM
A while back I used a similar arguement on a different forum. The rebuttal I got was that report is out dated. So far I have not found any more recent reports.

I suspect the main reason Muslim terrorists are in the lime light is because they are an easily identified group. Makes for high success stories for the CIA etc ,to talk about and show progress with. Excellent political ploy to use when budget time comes up.
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Dahir
07-17-2006, 10:24 PM
while back I used a similar arguement on a different forum. The rebuttal I got was that report is out dated. So far I have not found any more recent reports.

I suspect the main reason Muslim terrorists are in the lime light is because they are an easily identified group. Makes for high success stories for the CIA etc ,to talk about and show progress with. Excellent political ploy to use when budget time comes up.
True! I was shocked when I first saw a similar map in National Geographic a few years back, yet I could never argue for my sake because I just couldn't find that map!

I'm saving this map to a flash disk so I can win a few extra arguments!:D
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-17-2006, 10:26 PM
whoah thats interesting :eek:
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wilberhum
07-17-2006, 10:37 PM
Since we are talking international, why would you assume that the terrorists only operate in there own country?
Besides I only think the ignorant bigots would assume that the majority of terrorists are Muslims. Most terrorism is done for criminal or political reasons.
Now if you start talking terrorism done in the “Name of God” I think you will see where the 90% lays.
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-17-2006, 10:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
Since we are talking international, why would you assume that the terrorists only operate in there own country?
Besides I only think the ignorant bigots would assume that the majority of terrorists are Muslims. Most terrorism is done for criminal or political reasons.
Now if you start talking terrorism done in the “Name of God” I think you will see where the 90% lays.
Agreed !
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Dahir
07-17-2006, 10:56 PM
Since we are talking international, why would you assume that the terrorists only operate in there own country?
Besides I only think the ignorant bigots would assume that the majority of terrorists are Muslims. Most terrorism is done for criminal or political reasons.
Now if you start talking terrorism done in the “Name of God” I think you will see where the 90% lays.
Agreed !
I second that.

And for the bold part, that probably applies for Greece and Colombia, the TWO biggest "terror states."

Everything you said though, totally concise!
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MRR
07-17-2006, 11:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
The map indicates, that the biggest "terror" states are NOT Muslim.

If you're not good with geography, here's the TOP Nations with the most terror incidents, mostly internal!

Colombia
India
Greece
Angola
Nigeria
Yemen
Italy
Germany
Bosnia/Herzegovina

So, who says "almost all terrorists are Muslim," when indeed the reality is that almost ZERO terrorists are Muslim.

It was estimated that even after 9/11, 98% of Terror attacks in 2002 were from Latin American drug cartels, yet they are called "Guerillas" and not "Terrorists."
The map actually indicates countries where terrorist incidents occured. If you have a million hindus in a country, and two muslims attack them, is it hindu or muslim terrorism?
India
Greece
Angola
Nigeria
Yemen
Germany
Bosnia/Herzegovina
The countries I just listed, they may not be predominately muslim, but some of the terrorism in those countries was muslim related.
So, who says "almost all terrorists are Muslim," when indeed the reality is that almost ZERO terrorists are Muslim.
I don't know who said almost all, but almost zero is a stretch too.
It was estimated that even after 9/11, 98% of Terror attacks in 2002 were from Latin American drug cartels, yet they are called "Guerillas" and not "Terrorists."
You made that number up on the spot I'm sure. Provide a link.
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Dahir
07-17-2006, 11:08 PM
You made that number up on the spot I'm sure. Provide a link.
DAMN! Look at fricking Colombia, they're DEAD RED!!!

40% of ALL International terror attacks are in Colombia:



From: Wiki
One hundred seventy-eight of the attacks were bombings against a multinational oil pipeline in Colombia — constituting 51 % of the year’s total number of attacks. In 2000, there were 152 pipeline bombings in Colombia, which accounted for 40 % of the total.
If 40% of the World's attacks come from Colombia alone, you can estimate that at least 60% of ALL terror attacks in the World come from Latin America.

I overexaggerated 98%, but 60% is A LOT!!

Also, don't blame Muslims for attacks in Europe; Madrid and London don't account for "majority of attacks."

Think ETA, IRA, Northern Italian Politics!
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MRR
07-17-2006, 11:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
DAMN! Look at fricking Colombia, they're DEAD RED!!!

40% of ALL International terror attacks are in Colombia:



From: Wiki


If 40% of the World's attacks come from Colombia alone, you can estimate that at least 60% of ALL terror attacks in the World come from Latin America.

I overexaggerated 98%, but 60% is A LOT!!

Also, don't blame Muslims for attacks in Europe; Madrid and London don't account for "majority of attacks."

Think ETA, IRA, Northern Italian Politics!
LOL! I knew you made that number up!
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Taqiyah
07-17-2006, 11:25 PM
a/s/c

wooow this is really helpful...at least 4 me..
Nigeria, Italy, Angola':? i neva knew they had anything to do with terror! wooow now that is sad!:uhwhat
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MRR
07-17-2006, 11:27 PM
Think ETA, IRA, Northern Italian Politics!
I tend to think madrid and london train bombings. When was the last IRA incident?
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Dahir
07-17-2006, 11:30 PM
When was the last IRA incident?
Omagh, which was around 14 months ago, but no one covers the IRA, they have little value in the international arena.

What about the Spanish ETA?


LOL! I knew you made that number up!
Think of it like This:

94.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot:D
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Skillganon
07-17-2006, 11:39 PM
It will be interesting to do a in depth study of latin america, it might reveal interesting things.
EDIT
One thing this map fails to note, is when countries do it, even our own it is not terrorism. Aslong as the mass don't hear it and it s not replayed on our T.V it can be forgotton.

Really if we take on western history, it is wrought with terrorism by definition. Even now by definition it is carrying out such crime in one form or another.
I doubt media or being a proud nationalist one will like to associate such a word to our own, but we have to stand up and say it as it is, and not be scared. For our oppresive leaders and the oppresive leaders in the east, Jordan, Egypt, saudi e.t.c we must unite, and for the people (all faith and non-faith) in the U.S and the U.K must stand hand to hand with each other in a joint effort show the disdain and horror of what they are doing, and say in unison "we will not stand for oppression of mankind, oppressing other's is like oppressing us."
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Dahir
07-17-2006, 11:45 PM
It will be interesting to do a in depth study of latin america, it might reveal interesting things.
Hmmm. Guns, Drugs, Coffee, Tacos, Shakira, Socialism. Need any more:D

No offence to anyone: I was exibiting my terrible sense of humor:D
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Taqiyah
07-17-2006, 11:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
Hmmm. Guns, Drugs, Coffee, Tacos, Shakira, Socialism. Need any more:D

No offence to anyone: I was exibiting my terrible sense of humor:D

loooooooool;D well......bro since u live there I was hoping u could tell us lil more than that:? ;D
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Dahir
07-17-2006, 11:54 PM
bro since u live there I was hoping u could tell us lil more than that
I wish I could tell you more about Latin America, but the majority of my knowledge comes from watching too much stand-up comedy and documenting on my Mexican neighbors, good people, strange though.
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Skillganon
07-17-2006, 11:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
Hmmm. Guns, Drugs, Coffee, Tacos, Shakira, Socialism. Need any more:D

No offence to anyone: I was exibiting my terrible sense of humor:D
Do not so much focuse on the internal issue's but look at the external issues, i.e what is going on at the back door.

Houdini's greatest trick is in getting an audience to focus its attention where he wants it at a specific instant.

I EDITED my Previouse post i.e. added a bit more to it.
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Taqiyah
07-17-2006, 11:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
I wish I could tell you more about Latin America, but the majority of my knowledge comes from watching too much stand-up comedy and documenting on my Mexican neighbors, good people, strange though.

yeah I understand.:)
I like Mexico am gonna go there someday, InshaAllah:D
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Dahir
07-18-2006, 12:01 AM
Do not so much focuse on the internal issue's but look at the external issues, i.e what is going on at the back door.
Latin America, of all the regions in the world, probably sticks the most to local issues. Probably because they're so isolated, same way the US was a hundred years ago.

The only external issue for LA now is the Leftist/Capitalist struggle between North and South America.
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HeiGou
07-18-2006, 09:52 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
The map indicates, that the biggest "terror" states are NOT Muslim.

If you're not good with geography, here's the TOP Nations with the most terror incidents, mostly internal!

Colombia
India
Greece
Angola
Nigeria
Yemen
Italy
Germany
Bosnia/Herzegovina


In the top nations, only Yemen is Predominately Muslim, with Bosnia and Nigeria just below 50%. So, who says "almost all terrorists are Muslim," when indeed the reality is that almost ZERO terrorists are Muslim.
You have performed a neat sleight of hand. You have moved from "terror states" (by which you, I am appalled to notice, mean states which are victims of terrorist attacks) to "terrorists". Colombia has its own problems with Marxist guerillas (and the distinction is important because of the nature of the way they fight) and does India. But India also has a problem with Islamist terrorists. By your logic the Mumbai bombings would prove that Indians are terrorists because the attacks took place in India and killed Indians. Yet the question is who carried them out, not where they did it. Greece? Germany? You think that any Greek or German terrorists of non-Muslim origin have killed many people recently?
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HeiGou
07-18-2006, 09:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
From: Wiki
One hundred seventy-eight of the attacks were bombings against a multinational oil pipeline in Colombia — constituting 51 % of the year’s total number of attacks. In 2000, there were 152 pipeline bombings in Colombia, which accounted for 40 % of the total.
If 40% of the World's attacks come from Colombia alone, you can estimate that at least 60% of ALL terror attacks in the World come from Latin America.
There is also a problem with definitions - you are comparing *pipeline* bombings with the Mumbai train bombings or the London 7-7 attacks? 51 percent of Colombian "terrorist" attacks consisted of pipeline bombings? How many people do you think died in those attacks? Zero? Two?

Also, don't blame Muslims for attacks in Europe; Madrid and London don't account for "majority of attacks."

Think ETA, IRA, Northern Italian Politics!
No one is blaming Muslims for terrorist attacks - although it is clear that the attacks in Europe recently - the Madrid and London bombs - were carried out by people who came from a Muslim background.

ETA and the IRA has both surrendered.
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SirZubair
07-18-2006, 10:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
I suspect the main reason Muslim terrorists are in the lime light is because they are an easily identified group.
...Especially when they Produce VIDEO's in which they send a message to the world... :rollseyes :rollseyes :?
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Woodrow
07-18-2006, 10:14 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
...Especially when they Produce VIDEO's in which they send a message to the world... :rollseyes :rollseyes :?
Quite true. Yet, this is something that sets them apart from all other terrorists. They openly admit they have a goal to accomplish and are not ashamed or afraid to let everyone know what the goal is. Although I disagree 100% with their methods, I feel some of their goals are legitimate. The problem isn't what they want, the problem is how they are trying to accomplish it.

With that said, it does make them a highly visible target and open to condemnation by much of the world. It also dipicts them as being a very viable threat and something the public fears. All the publicity over shadows any other terroristic activities in the world, even if
Islamic Terrorists are the minority.
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Sis786
07-18-2006, 11:25 AM
Its all got to do with Media and the message they put accross to the Public. I mean even I as a Muslim do think that Oh No Muslims are behind these attackes even before the culprit is revealed but the fear that the media has created has made me think this way..

Before here in the Uk everytime there was a attack on the public everyone would point the finger at the IRA times have changed since then!
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Nablus
07-18-2006, 01:03 PM
israel 1 or 2% very funny and this information according to its mother USA.

USA & Israel more than 100%
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Dahir
07-18-2006, 09:08 PM
Before here in the Uk everytime there was a attack on the public everyone would point the finger at the IRA times have changed since then!
Ha! Many people don't know this, but the first finger pointed after 9/11 was at the Colombian Cartel (mafia), then it was Yasser Arafat, and after about a week, Al Qaeda was handed the responsibility, and Islamophobia became a household word!
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Trumble
07-18-2006, 09:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
Omagh, which was around 14 months ago, but no one covers the IRA, they have little value in the international arena.
Close.. the Omagh bombing occurred on August 15 1998! Nobody 'covers' the IRA any more as, as has already been said, they have disarmed and renounced violence. Omagh was not carried out by the Provisional IRA, anyway, but by another Republican group... and no significant attacks by Irish Republicans have occured since.

I don't see any relevance to 1999 figures at all, they can only "prove" what was happening then. A great deal has happened in the meantime, not least 9/11.
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Dahir
07-18-2006, 09:55 PM
Close.. the Omagh bombing occurred on August 15 1998!
:D

Time goes fast

:D
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Dahir
07-18-2006, 10:02 PM
and no significant attacks by Irish Republicans have occured since.
Oh, really, Reality says differently

The IRA, lets just say, haven't completely "disarmed" since Omagh.

4 September 1998 CIRA claim gun attack on RUC patrol in Armagh. RUC deny it took place.
23 September 1998 Weapons seized in Dublin.
14 January 1999 Gun attack on Woodbourne RUC Station in West Belfast. Four men later convicted.
4 February 1999 Channel 4 documentary shows CIRA propaganda video.
4 May 1999 Gun attack on Lisnaskea RUC Station in Co Fermanagh.
2 June 1999 Bomb hoax in Armagh City causes chaos.
4 November 1999 CIRA prisoner, Tommy Crossan, is attacked by a Loyalist prisoner in Maghaberry Prison.
27 December 1999 Bomb hoax forces the evacuation of Kempton Park racetrack in England.
23 January 2000 Limerick man arrested transporting a major explosives haul for the Continuity IRA. He was later jailed for eight years by the Special Criminal Court.[6]
6 February 2000 Bomb explosion at a hotel in Irvinestown; there were no injuries.
13 April 2000 Mortar attack on Roslea RUC Station in Co Fermanagh.
19 May 2000 Series of bomb alerts in Belfast City Centre. Nothing found.
1 November 2000 Booby-trap bomb in Castlewellan, County Down, in which an RUC officer lost a leg and two fingers. The CIRA later claimed responsibility.[7]
14 December 2000 One man and a 16 year old boy arrested after bomb found in car in Belfast City Centre.
31 May 2001 Dermot Gannon from Dublin becomes first person to be convicted of membership of the CIRA solely on the word of a Garda chief superintendent. He was jailed for four years.
22 June 2001 Thomas Ryan, 25, from Kilscanlan, Foulksmills, Co Wexford pleaded guilty to possession of 87 sticks of gelignite. He received an 8 year suspended sentence after co-operating with the police.
26 June 2001 Bomb making materials and 60lbs of homemade explosives found on the Monaghan border.
19 July 2001 Gun and grenade attack on Castlewellan RUC Station in Co Down.
17 October 2001 350lb bomb seized in Co Tyrone. Man later convicted.
30 October 2001 5kg bomb explodes on hijacked bus outside Woodbourne RUC Station.
19 December 2001 Bomb damages Custom office in Co Fermanagh.
24 March 2002 Gun attack on Beleek RUC Station in Co Fermanagh.
24 July 2002 Explosion on Fermanagh estate of Unionist peer Lord Brookeborough.
February 2003 Pipe Bomb attack on Woodbourne PSNI Station, Belfast.
18 February 2003 Nail Bomb attack on Antrim Road PSNI Station, Belfast.
5 July 2005 Hoax Bomb warning in Keady, Co Armagh.
9 July 2005 Pipe Bomb attack on Coalisland PSNI Station, Co Tyrone.
12 July 2005 Blast Bombs thrown at PSNI during riots in Ardoyne, Belfast.
13 July 2005 Improvised device discovered in Armagh after emailed bomb warning.
December 2005 A suspected Continuity IRA member was arrested while driving a bomb through Dublin. Gardaí believe the device was intended for use against drugs gangs in the city[8]
19 April 2006 250 lb bomb discovered in Lurgan, Co Armagh. Four men arrested.
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Keltoi
07-18-2006, 10:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
Ha! Many people don't know this, but the first finger pointed after 9/11 was at the Colombian Cartel (mafia), then it was Yasser Arafat, and after about a week, Al Qaeda was handed the responsibility, and Islamophobia became a household word!
Hmmm....I wonder why within 24 hours they had pictures of the hijackers and Bin Laden on television? Maybe I was part of some mass pyschosis and missed the pictures of Arafat and the reports on the Columbian drug cartels....
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Dahir
07-19-2006, 12:41 AM
Hmmm....I wonder why within 24 hours they had pictures of the hijackers and Bin Laden on television? Maybe I was part of some mass pyschosis and missed the pictures of Arafat and the reports on the Columbian drug cartels....
24 hours? Are you mistaken? Bin Laden qeued the CIA to call him out after about a week to make their staged attack look a bit more realistic.

:D


24 hours...:giggling: sheesh:D
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umm-sulaim
07-19-2006, 12:44 AM
Yemen.........hey...you sure them people are so miskeen!!

Dunno what part them terrorits live in?

But nice post!!
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Dahir
07-19-2006, 12:49 AM
Yemen.........hey...you sure them people are so miskeen!!

Dunno what part them terrorits live in?
Anyone who opposes American/Israeli/British interests is a terrorist.

The IRA, Hamas/Hezbollah, the CIA-created group called Al-Qaeda, the American-profit-fueled Colombian Cartel, etc.

In my books, "Terrorism" and "Excuse" are cousins, one supports the other.:D
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umm-sulaim
07-19-2006, 12:51 AM
lol ahaa.......well if you put it that way....you're 100% right!
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Dahir
07-19-2006, 01:09 AM
lol ahaa.......well if you put it that way....you're 100% right!
Dahir: I thought I'd be.

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Dahir: :?

Homeland Security: Who ya speakin' to, what's this site?

Dahir: :X

Homeland Security: Say something.

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Homeland Security: DAHIR, SAY SOMETHING!!

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Homeland Security: :raging: :hiding:


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Trumble
07-19-2006, 04:02 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir

The IRA, lets just say, haven't completely "disarmed" since Omagh.

Oh, please... I said significant incidents (in the context of a bombing on the scale of Omagh). Fatalities out of that lot? Nil.

It is wisest not to say much when the only knowledge you have is from a brief glance at Wiki. CIRA are/were not the same organisation as the Provisional IRA. They have now, to all intents and purposes, disappeared while the Provos after a long hiatus formally renounced violence and their weapons and explosives were verifyably destroyed in 2005.


format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
[B]24 hours? Are you mistaken? Bin Laden qeued the CIA to call him out after about a week to make their staged attack look a bit more realistic.

Sorry, as far as the press coverage goes at least, I remember things much the same way as Keltoi. Bin Laden was the principal suspect from day one, and I recall old news footing of the USS Cole attack and such. There was certainly no delay of a week. But the, of course, the attack was not "staged" either... except by bin Laden. That's the trouble with conspiracy theories, the collect a whole bundle of other myths as they go along.
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Dahir
07-19-2006, 04:39 AM
Sorry, as far as the press coverage goes at least, I remember things much the same way as Keltoi. Bin Laden was the principal suspect from day one
As I remember it, on CNN, Wolf Blitzer said the Colombian cartel was the first list of men in suspect. Yasser Arafat was the first man I saw being interviewed about his part in the attacks.

That's what I saw, but then again, I was 11 years old, but then again, I TiVo'd that news alert:D
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