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north_malaysian
07-21-2006, 02:11 AM
A national survey conducted by the Merdeka Centre for Opinion Research on 1,505 Malaysians of which 52% are Malays, 20% Chinese, 8% Indians, 8% other indigenous people, 2% others.
PRIORITIES AMONG MAJOR MALAYSIAN ETHNIC GROUPS
MALAYS
* Religion First - 61%
* Nationality First - 28%
* Ethnic Group First - 5%
CHINESE
* Religion First - 5%
* Nationality First - 44%
* Ethnic Group First - 47%
INDIANS
* Religion First - 5%
* NAtionality First - 75%
* Ethnic Group First - 14%
On statement :"One's responsibility should first begin by helping members of one's ethnic group before helping others in society:
* Malays - 63% agreed
* Chinese - 44% agreed
* Indians - 22% agreed
on question "what their expectation of Malaysian society?"
* 43% of the respondents desired a society where various races and cultures were treated equally.
* 27% of the respondents wanted a more democratic society.
* 18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role.
* 6% of the respondents wanted a Malay-dominant society.
Source: The Star, 21.07.2006, page N22
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Keltoi
07-21-2006, 02:15 AM
Interesting polls.
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north_malaysian
07-21-2006, 02:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Keltoi
Interesting polls.
At least now we knows that 18% of Malaysians are Islamist and 6% ultra-nationalists. No wonder lots of skinhead kids nowadays. 'BROWN POWER MY A**":grumbling
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Keltoi
07-21-2006, 02:23 AM
It doesn't surprise me that only 18% want an Islamic government.
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Keltoi
07-21-2006, 02:25 AM
What is the religious makeup of Malayasia? Majority Muslim?
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north_malaysian
07-21-2006, 02:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Keltoi
What is the religious makeup of Malayasia? Majority Muslim?
According to latest government census (in 2001....I think) 60.4% are Muslims.
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syilla
07-21-2006, 06:19 AM
hmm...now i know why our business not that good...
only 5% give support....
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north_malaysian
07-21-2006, 08:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
syilla
hmm...now i know why our business not that good...
only 5% give support....
Malay business should be change to Muslim business (61% - that's high)
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AHMED_GUREY
07-21-2006, 12:58 PM
malaysia is beautiful masha-allah
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syilla
07-21-2006, 03:45 PM
thank you...why don't you come here...now we have mega sales for at least two months...all over m'sia.
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AHMED_GUREY
07-21-2006, 04:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
syilla
thank you...why don't you come here...now we have mega sales for at least two months...all over m'sia.
insha-allah i will sis i have a cousin living in kuala lumpur he's medical student and i'm going to visit him in december insha-allah
ps what are they selling in Malaysia did you say?? lol
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syilla
07-21-2006, 04:18 PM
everything in sales...
just name it and you'll have it....(but of coz you have to pay first).
hehe...by the way where he is studying?
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AHMED_GUREY
07-21-2006, 05:48 PM
:sl:
so that means i have to save a lot of money so i can do some REAL shopping malaysia style ;D unless the mega sales are over when i'm there :cry:
honestly i really don't know where he studies something with Jalan
don't know what that means i will ask him when he calls me
:w:
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wilberhum
07-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Some interesting insight.
Only 5% of the CHINESE and Indians put religion first. Yet 61 % of the Malays put it first. Since just over 60% of the population is Muslims, could I assume that most all of the Malays are Muslims? Any one know?
The official religion is Islam. The judicial system is based on English law.
I would think that an assumption that the 39% of the population that are not Muslims don’t want Islam to play a bigger role. So if18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role. That would mean that about 70% of the Muslims don’t want it. What ever, the vast majority don’t support more religion in government.
I wonder how many would like to see a society where Islam played less of a role.
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KAding
07-21-2006, 11:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
north_malaysian
* 18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role.
Hmm, that should remind me not to equate opinions off the majority on this forum with the majority of Muslims in general. I would say on this forum an overwhelming majority wants more Islam in society.
Maybe I should also find a forum with more secular Muslims, so I can keep a proper perspective. Does anyone have any suggestions? :)
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 04:08 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
wilberhum
Some interesting insight.
Only 5% of the CHINESE and Indians put religion first. Yet 61 % of the Malays put it first. Since just over 60% of the population is Muslims, could I assume that most all of the Malays are Muslims? Any one know?
The official religion is Islam. The judicial system is based on English law.
I would think that an assumption that the 39% of the population that are not Muslims don’t want Islam to play a bigger role. So if18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role. That would mean that about 70% of the Muslims don’t want it. What ever, the vast majority don’t support more religion in government.
I wonder how many would like to see a society where Islam played less of a role.
According to Malaysian Federal Constitution:
A 'Malay' is a Malaysian citizen:
a) Who professed the religion of Islam
b) habitually speak Malay Language
c) practice Malay culture.
If a 'Malay' ceased to be a Muslim, he/she alse ceased to be a 'Malay'.
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 04:09 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
KAding
Hmm, that should remind me not to equate opinions off the majority on this forum with the majority of Muslims in general. I would say on this forum an overwhelming majority wants more Islam in society.
Maybe I should also find a forum with more secular Muslims, so I can keep a proper perspective. Does anyone have any suggestions? :)
cari forum
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Dahir
07-24-2006, 04:23 AM
...in other news, the United States has gone NUCKINFUTZ!
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 04:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Dahir
...in other news, the United States has gone NUCKINFUTZ!
Bert should be replaced by big bird!!
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Dahir
07-24-2006, 04:27 AM
Bert should be replaced by big bird!!
Big Bird got the Avian Flu!
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 04:35 AM
is it true that bert and ernie is a gay couple?
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syilla
07-24-2006, 04:39 AM
what you guys are talking about??
i'm lost here...
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Dahir
07-24-2006, 04:41 AM
is it true that bert and ernie is a gay couple?
Heavens NO! They're only the best of Friends! :offended:
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syilla
07-24-2006, 04:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
AHMED_GUREY
:sl:
so that means i have to save a lot of money so i can do some REAL shopping malaysia style ;D unless the mega sales are over when i'm there :cry:
honestly i really don't know where he studies something with Jalan
don't know what that means i will ask him when he calls me
:w:
not yet finish...
actually its just started...last saturday.
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 05:29 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
syilla
not yet finish...
actually its just started...last saturday.
the next one should be on raya time isnt it..or December...
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syilla
07-24-2006, 05:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
north_malaysian
the next one should be on raya time isnt it..or December...
i think so... all i know is...three times a year.
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 05:33 AM
SUICIDE TRENDS IN MALAYSIA
* Malays - 6 suicide cases per 100,000 Malays
* Chinese - 15 suicide cases per 100,000 Chinese
* Indians - 35 suicide cases per 100,000 Indians
* Average - 12 suicide cases per 100,000 Malaysians
Source: Yayasan Strategik Sosial and Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia
taken from: The Star, 24.07.2006, page N14.
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north_malaysian
07-24-2006, 05:34 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
syilla
i think so... all i know is...three times a year.
yeah... but SOGO have SALE on daily basis isnt it?
I think the cheapest price you can get for branded clothes is during Chinese New Year. Seriously... so cheap.
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Skillganon
07-24-2006, 12:38 PM
It is interesting to know 100% of muslim put their religion first, (that's 61% muslim out of total population ), which is good.
but only 18% want Islam to play a bigger role. Which is confusing, I suggest that this 61% will need better education on their deen.
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wilberhum
07-24-2006, 05:16 PM
I suggest that this 61% will need better education on their deen.
I suggest that this 61% favor separation of church and state.
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north_malaysian
07-25-2006, 02:43 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Skillganon
It is interesting to know 100% of muslim put their religion first, (that's 61% muslim out of total population ), which is good.
but only 18% want Islam to play a bigger role. Which is confusing, I suggest that this 61% will need better education on their deen.
Actually it's 61% of the Malay surveyed. Not the whole Malaysian.
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north_malaysian
07-25-2006, 02:45 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
wilberhum
I suggest that this 61% favor separation of church and state.
Most Muslims are confused actually:-
1) Government: "Malaysia is an Islamic country"
2) Islamist Opposition: "Malaysia is a secular country"
:rollseyes :rollseyes :rollseyes
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syilla
07-25-2006, 04:34 AM
in case anyone to know more about mega sales in m'sia...Hehehe...(sorry off topic and not really priority...maybe only save money)
http://www.mymegasale.com/ Reply
north_malaysian
07-25-2006, 05:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
syilla
in case anyone to know more about mega sales in m'sia...Hehehe...(sorry off topic and not really priority...maybe only save money)
http://www.mymegasale.com/
Saving money...or buying more things? :p. I think as Ramadhan and Syawal is getting nearer...and nearer.. Jalan TAR (in KL), Pekan Rabu (in alor Star) and Chowrasta (in Penang) will be crowded by women for eid's curtains, baju raya, baju kurung, tudung etc.:giggling: :giggling: :giggling:
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Iconoclast
07-25-2006, 05:23 PM
:sl:
For Me religion my ISLAM is the ONLY Thing that matters .
A Muslim is a muslim. brother/sister of another muslim/muslima.
That How My Rasool SAW Wanted and That is What It Is and Will BE.
:w:
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wilberhum
07-25-2006, 10:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Iconoclast
:sl:
For Me religion my ISLAM is the ONLY Thing that matters .
A Muslim is a muslim. brother/sister of another muslim/muslima.
That How My Rasool SAW Wanted and That is What It Is and Will BE.
:w:
I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?
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Dahir
07-25-2006, 10:20 PM
I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?
Are we playing "Spot the Radical" again? :D Reply
Woodrow
07-25-2006, 10:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
wilberhum
I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?
I can understand how some of our words could make you feel like that. Although we may tend to be a little too verbal at times, the actions of most Muslims are for the preservation of Peace and of tolerance towards all.
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Iconoclast
07-25-2006, 10:24 PM
see above
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Iconoclast
07-25-2006, 10:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
wilberhum
I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?
2nd thought Not worth a reply Reply
Dahir
07-25-2006, 10:29 PM
I can understand how some of our words could make you feel like that. Although we may tend to be a little too verbal at times, the actions of most Muslims are for the preservation of Peace and of tolerance towards all.
Woodrow 5000! :D
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Iconoclast
07-25-2006, 10:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Dahir
Are we playing "Spot the Radical" again? :D
:sl::brother:
Radical Islam, is more fully at "Islam and Islamism - Faith and Ideology," "it has three main features:
1 a devotion to the sacred law,
2 a rejection of Western influences,
3 and the transformation of faith into ideology.
if the above is what i follow u can call me one
:w:
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Iconoclast
07-25-2006, 10:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by [LEFT
wilberhum[/left];419492]I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?
Thread
UK Govt Sources Confirm War With Iran Is On
Wilberiumthinks that playing with human sentiments about their
religion is fun.
Quote:
"Well "Clam Till Provoked", should I copy my last post? Where you sitting?
Got your gun in your hand?"
"As for guns i have outgrown and lets say post-graduated it to level that is beyond
ur comfort zone
Woh, such violence
. So have you given up your .22 for an AK47?
Such treats. You must really be brave.
Besides my Mom can whip your Mom."
what i said in reply was a prayer for him cause i respect his mom ( women folk ) more than he does to mention on www
Quote: Iconoclast
Originally Posted by
wilberhum
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Besides my Mom can whip your Mom.
discretion is the better part of valor . may Allah guide the unguided
So wilberium grow up bro this ain't a joke and we certainly are not kids here RELIGION AND BELIEFS are Sacred and should not be taken
lightly
. u may forget what u said on this forum as it is a joke for u. but its not got others
brother i have been in wars/riots/protest and seen ppl close to me die and innocent bystanders shot.
and its not a pretty picture.
i hope this clears our differences . if not our point of view
i repeat once again Discretion is the better part of valor.
May Allah Guide us
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north_malaysian
07-26-2006, 03:40 AM
:rollseyes
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dianputri
07-26-2006, 09:47 AM
i thought i will find interesting thread,,,
but,,,,:-P
no answer,,,for stupid question,,,
sorry,,,
:sl:
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dianputri
07-26-2006, 09:48 AM
i thought i will find interesting thread,,,
but,,,,:-P
no comments,,,for foolish question,,,
sorry,,,
:sl:
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HeiGou
07-26-2006, 10:00 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Woodrow
I can understand how some of our words could make you feel like that. Although we may tend to be a little too verbal at times, the actions of most Muslims are for the preservation of Peace and of tolerance towards all.
Where can I see Muslims in action outside the West preserving the peace and expressing tolerance for all?
I do agree Muslims tend to be a little verbal at times, especially if they are from the Middle East. But I also think that all too often they are expressing less than what they would really like to do - their words are less than their hearts' desire. How would anyone test that?
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Iconoclast
07-26-2006, 09:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by
Iconoclast
:sl:
For Me religion my ISLAM is the ONLY Thing that matters .
A Muslim is a muslim. brother/sister of another muslim/muslima.
That How My Rasool SAW Wanted and That is What It Is and Will BE.
:w:
:sl:
what i said was in the light of what i read and believe , u can call me a radical a extremist a fundamenalist . if that is following the Prophet SAW that Alhamdulillah I am.
Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one."
Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 623
:w:
:brother:
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 03:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by
HeiGou
Where can I see Muslims in action outside the West preserving the peace and expressing tolerance for all?
I do agree Muslims tend to be a little verbal at times, especially if they are from the Middle East. But I also think that all too often they are expressing less than what they would really like to do - their words are less than their hearts' desire. How would anyone test that?
I think Muslims in Mali, Senegal, Gambia are very tolerant...
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