Priority: Religion first, nationality first or ethnic group first?

[north_malaysian]

A national survey conducted by the Merdeka Centre for Opinion Research on 1,505 Malaysians of which 52% are Malays, 20% Chinese, 8% Indians, 8% other indigenous people, 2% others.

PRIORITIES AMONG MAJOR MALAYSIAN ETHNIC GROUPS

MALAYS
* Religion First - 61%
* Nationality First - 28%
* Ethnic Group First - 5%

CHINESE
* Religion First - 5%
* Nationality First - 44%
* Ethnic Group First - 47%

INDIANS
* Religion First - 5%
* NAtionality First - 75%
* Ethnic Group First - 14%

On statement :"One's responsibility should first begin by helping members of one's ethnic group before helping others in society:

* Malays - 63% agreed
* Chinese - 44% agreed
* Indians - 22% agreed

on question "what their expectation of Malaysian society?"
* 43% of the respondents desired a society where various races and cultures were treated equally.

* 27% of the respondents wanted a more democratic society.

* 18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role.

* 6% of the respondents wanted a Malay-dominant society.

Source: The Star, 21.07.2006, page N22

[Keltoi]

Interesting polls.

[north_malaysian]

Interesting polls.

At least now we knows that 18% of Malaysians are Islamist and 6% ultra-nationalists. No wonder lots of skinhead kids nowadays. 'BROWN POWER MY A**":grumbling

[Keltoi]

It doesn't surprise me that only 18% want an Islamic government.

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[Keltoi]

What is the religious makeup of Malayasia? Majority Muslim?

[north_malaysian]

What is the religious makeup of Malayasia? Majority Muslim?

According to latest government census (in 2001....I think) 60.4% are Muslims.

[syilla]

hmm...now i know why our business not that good...

only 5% give support....

[north_malaysian]

hmm...now i know why our business not that good...

only 5% give support....

Malay business should be change to Muslim business (61% - that's high)

[AHMED_GUREY]

malaysia is beautiful masha-allah

[syilla]

thank you...why don't you come here...now we have mega sales for at least two months...all over m'sia.

[AHMED_GUREY]

thank you...why don't you come here...now we have mega sales for at least two months...all over m'sia.

insha-allah i will sis i have a cousin living in kuala lumpur he's medical student and i'm going to visit him in december insha-allah

ps what are they selling in Malaysia did you say?? lol

[syilla]

everything in sales...

just name it and you'll have it....(but of coz you have to pay first).

hehe...by the way where he is studying?

[AHMED_GUREY]

:sl:

so that means i have to save a lot of money so i can do some REAL shopping malaysia style ;D unless the mega sales are over when i'm there :cry:

honestly i really don't know where he studies something with Jalan

don't know what that means i will ask him when he calls me

:w:

[wilberhum]

Some interesting insight.
Only 5% of the CHINESE and Indians put religion first. Yet 61 % of the Malays put it first. Since just over 60% of the population is Muslims, could I assume that most all of the Malays are Muslims? Any one know?

The official religion is Islam. The judicial system is based on English law.

I would think that an assumption that the 39% of the population that are not Muslims don’t want Islam to play a bigger role. So if18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role. That would mean that about 70% of the Muslims don’t want it. What ever, the vast majority don’t support more religion in government.

I wonder how many would like to see a society where Islam played less of a role.

[KAding]

* 18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role.

Hmm, that should remind me not to equate opinions off the majority on this forum with the majority of Muslims in general. I would say on this forum an overwhelming majority wants more Islam in society.

Maybe I should also find a forum with more secular Muslims, so I can keep a proper perspective. Does anyone have any suggestions? :)

[north_malaysian]

Some interesting insight.
Only 5% of the CHINESE and Indians put religion first. Yet 61 % of the Malays put it first. Since just over 60% of the population is Muslims, could I assume that most all of the Malays are Muslims? Any one know?

The official religion is Islam. The judicial system is based on English law.

I would think that an assumption that the 39% of the population that are not Muslims don’t want Islam to play a bigger role. So if18% of the respondents wanted a society where Islam played a bigger role. That would mean that about 70% of the Muslims don’t want it. What ever, the vast majority don’t support more religion in government.

I wonder how many would like to see a society where Islam played less of a role.

According to Malaysian Federal Constitution:

A 'Malay' is a Malaysian citizen:

a) Who professed the religion of Islam
b) habitually speak Malay Language
c) practice Malay culture.

If a 'Malay' ceased to be a Muslim, he/she alse ceased to be a 'Malay'.

[north_malaysian]

Hmm, that should remind me not to equate opinions off the majority on this forum with the majority of Muslims in general. I would say on this forum an overwhelming majority wants more Islam in society.

Maybe I should also find a forum with more secular Muslims, so I can keep a proper perspective. Does anyone have any suggestions? :)

cari forum

[Dahir]

...in other news, the United States has gone NUCKINFUTZ!

[north_malaysian]

...in other news, the United States has gone NUCKINFUTZ!

Bert should be replaced by big bird!!

[Dahir]

Bert should be replaced by big bird!!

Big Bird got the Avian Flu!

[north_malaysian]

is it true that bert and ernie is a gay couple?

[syilla]

what you guys are talking about??

i'm lost here...

[Dahir]

is it true that bert and ernie is a gay couple?

Heavens NO! They're only the best of Friends! :offended:

[syilla]

:sl:

so that means i have to save a lot of money so i can do some REAL shopping malaysia style ;D unless the mega sales are over when i'm there :cry:

honestly i really don't know where he studies something with Jalan

don't know what that means i will ask him when he calls me

:w:

not yet finish...

actually its just started...last saturday.

[north_malaysian]

not yet finish...

actually its just started...last saturday.

the next one should be on raya time isnt it..or December...

[syilla]

the next one should be on raya time isnt it..or December...

i think so... all i know is...three times a year.

[north_malaysian]

SUICIDE TRENDS IN MALAYSIA

* Malays - 6 suicide cases per 100,000 Malays
* Chinese - 15 suicide cases per 100,000 Chinese
* Indians - 35 suicide cases per 100,000 Indians

* Average - 12 suicide cases per 100,000 Malaysians

Source: Yayasan Strategik Sosial and Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia

taken from: The Star, 24.07.2006, page N14.

[north_malaysian]

i think so... all i know is...three times a year.

yeah... but SOGO have SALE on daily basis isnt it?

I think the cheapest price you can get for branded clothes is during Chinese New Year. Seriously... so cheap.

[Skillganon]

It is interesting to know 100% of muslim put their religion first, (that's 61% muslim out of total population ), which is good.
but only 18% want Islam to play a bigger role. Which is confusing, I suggest that this 61% will need better education on their deen.

[wilberhum]

I suggest that this 61% will need better education on their deen.

I suggest that this 61% favor separation of church and state.

[north_malaysian]

It is interesting to know 100% of muslim put their religion first, (that's 61% muslim out of total population ), which is good.
but only 18% want Islam to play a bigger role. Which is confusing, I suggest that this 61% will need better education on their deen.

Actually it's 61% of the Malay surveyed. Not the whole Malaysian.

[north_malaysian]

I suggest that this 61% favor separation of church and state.

Most Muslims are confused actually:-

1) Government: "Malaysia is an Islamic country"
2) Islamist Opposition: "Malaysia is a secular country"

:rollseyes :rollseyes :rollseyes

[syilla]

in case anyone to know more about mega sales in m'sia...Hehehe...(sorry off topic and not really priority...maybe only save money)

http://www.mymegasale.com/

[north_malaysian]

in case anyone to know more about mega sales in m'sia...Hehehe...(sorry off topic and not really priority...maybe only save money)

http://www.mymegasale.com/

Saving money...or buying more things? :p. I think as Ramadhan and Syawal is getting nearer...and nearer.. Jalan TAR (in KL), Pekan Rabu (in alor Star) and Chowrasta (in Penang) will be crowded by women for eid's curtains, baju raya, baju kurung, tudung etc.:giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

[Iconoclast]

:sl:
For Me religion my ISLAM is the ONLY Thing that matters .
A Muslim is a muslim. brother/sister of another muslim/muslima.
That How My Rasool SAW Wanted and That is What It Is and Will BE.
:w:

[wilberhum]

:sl:
For Me religion my ISLAM is the ONLY Thing that matters .
A Muslim is a muslim. brother/sister of another muslim/muslima.
That How My Rasool SAW Wanted and That is What It Is and Will BE.
:w:

I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?

[Dahir]

I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?

Are we playing "Spot the Radical" again? :D

[Woodrow]

I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?

I can understand how some of our words could make you feel like that. Although we may tend to be a little too verbal at times, the actions of most Muslims are for the preservation of Peace and of tolerance towards all.

[Iconoclast]

see above

[Iconoclast]

I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?

2nd thought Not worth a reply

[Dahir]

I can understand how some of our words could make you feel like that. Although we may tend to be a little too verbal at times, the actions of most Muslims are for the preservation of Peace and of tolerance towards all.

Woodrow 5000! :D

[Iconoclast]

Are we playing "Spot the Radical" again? :D

:sl::brother:
Radical Islam, is more fully at "Islam and Islamism - Faith and Ideology," "it has three main features:
1 a devotion to the sacred law,
2 a rejection of Western influences,
3 and the transformation of faith into ideology.

if the above is what i follow u can call me one
:w:

[Iconoclast]

wilberhum[/left];419492]I thought bathing your feet in my blood was one of the things that mattered to you.
Got your AK-47 ready?

Thread

UK Govt Sources Confirm War With Iran Is On

Wilberiumthinks that playing with human sentiments about their

religion is fun.

Quote:
"Well "Clam Till Provoked", should I copy my last post? Where you sitting?
Got your gun in your hand?"


"As for guns i have outgrown and lets say post-graduated it to level that is beyond

ur comfort zone

Woh, such violence

. So have you given up your .22 for an AK47?
Such treats. You must really be brave.
Besides my Mom can whip your Mom."

what i said in reply was a prayer for him cause i respect his mom ( women folk ) more than he does to mention on www

Quote: Iconoclast
Originally Posted by

wilberhum

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Besides my Mom can whip your Mom.


discretion is the better part of valor . may Allah guide the unguided

So wilberium grow up bro this ain't a joke and we certainly are not kids here RELIGION AND BELIEFS are Sacred and should not be taken

lightly

. u may forget what u said on this forum as it is a joke for u. but its not got others
brother i have been in wars/riots/protest and seen ppl close to me die and innocent bystanders shot.
and its not a pretty picture.
i hope this clears our differences . if not our point of view
i repeat once again Discretion is the better part of valor.

May Allah Guide us

[north_malaysian]

:rollseyes

[dianputri]

i thought i will find interesting thread,,,
but,,,,:-P

no answer,,,for stupid question,,,
sorry,,,

:sl:

[dianputri]

i thought i will find interesting thread,,,
but,,,,:-P

no comments,,,for foolish question,,,
sorry,,,

:sl:

[HeiGou]

I can understand how some of our words could make you feel like that. Although we may tend to be a little too verbal at times, the actions of most Muslims are for the preservation of Peace and of tolerance towards all.

Where can I see Muslims in action outside the West preserving the peace and expressing tolerance for all?

I do agree Muslims tend to be a little verbal at times, especially if they are from the Middle East. But I also think that all too often they are expressing less than what they would really like to do - their words are less than their hearts' desire. How would anyone test that?

[Iconoclast]

:sl:
For Me religion my ISLAM is the ONLY Thing that matters .
A Muslim is a muslim. brother/sister of another muslim/muslima.
That How My Rasool SAW Wanted and That is What It Is and Will BE.
:w:

:sl:
what i said was in the light of what i read and believe , u can call me a radical a extremist a fundamenalist . if that is following the Prophet SAW that Alhamdulillah I am.

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one."
Bukhari Volume 3, Book 43, Number 623

:w:
:brother:

[north_malaysian]

Where can I see Muslims in action outside the West preserving the peace and expressing tolerance for all?

I do agree Muslims tend to be a little verbal at times, especially if they are from the Middle East. But I also think that all too often they are expressing less than what they would really like to do - their words are less than their hearts' desire. How would anyone test that?

I think Muslims in Mali, Senegal, Gambia are very tolerant...