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Dahir
07-25-2006, 10:25 PM
4 Killed when Israel bombs UN Post

Aside from killing fleeing Lebanese civillians, protesters, tourists, journalists, and cameramen, Israel does this:

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BEIRUT, Lebanon - A U.N. observer post was hit by an Israeli airstrike in south Lebanon Tuesday, killing four peacekeepers, U.N. officials said. A bomb directly hit the building and shelter of an Indian patrol base from the observer force in the town of Khiyam near the eastern end of the border with Israel, said Milos Struger, spokesman for the U.N. peacekeeping force in Lebanon known as UNIFIL.
Boy oh boy, Israel is pulling some pretty crazy stunts, oh boy! I guess even the IDF is like kryptonite to innocent people.
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Woodrow
07-25-2006, 10:32 PM
Perhaps there may be some truth about how little care is taken to protect non-combatants.
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جوري
07-25-2006, 10:36 PM
yup... day before yesterday I saw the funeral of a 21 year old lebanese journalist bombed while on duty... I don't remember her name it was on the LBC... have you guys seen it? it broke my heart her mom couldn't support herself when walking out of the car ...she seemed in a haze... it is unbelivable to even think about let alone live it.....
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786rani
07-25-2006, 10:40 PM
sad...sik..disgusting and repulsive shall i go on?
rani
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Dahir
07-25-2006, 10:57 PM
Is it just me or is Israel like the "blonde girl with pig-tails" of the World?

What I mean is that Israel is seen as soooo innocent, that neither the Israeli people or Army are EVER capable of doing anything bad! I don't get it, and I know that some groups, like Christian Evangelists, view them as Holy people, you have to think and say, THEY ARE HUMAN, after all, they make mistakes!

Many people assume that Israel is the most evil nation on Earth, and it probably is, but that's not necessarily their fault. I fault Americans and the British for pampering Israel and giving the people and nation a nearly God-like status, even in the eyes of the UN!

Someone has to sit down with the Israeli people, prick them with a needle and say, YOU BLEED JUST LIKE I DO, get real for a minute, seriously!
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جوري
07-25-2006, 11:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
Is it just me or is Israel like the "blonde girl with pig-tails" of the World?

What I mean is that Israel is seen as soooo innocent, that neither the Israeli people or Army are EVER capable of doing anything bad! I don't get it, and I know that some groups, like Christian Evangelists, view them as Holy people, you have to think and say, THEY ARE HUMAN, after all, they make mistakes!

Many people assume that Israel is the most evil nation on Earth, and it probably is, but that's not necessarily their fault. I fault Americans and the British for pampering Israel and giving the people and nation a nearly God-like status, even in the eyes of the UN!

Someone has to sit down with the Israeli people, prick them with a needle and say, YOU BLEED JUST LIKE I DO, get real for a minute, seriously!
Think it can be summed up in their cute little girls signing the bombs.... it is unreal to me... then right away they cover up the story from the angry reaction of the people stating well "they thought they were auditioning for American idol" is that believable to anyone?... they can't keep up with the gruesome events to come up with better lies ... too many cameras are on them now ... even if some chose to see them through rose tinted glasses....
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Dahir
07-25-2006, 11:12 PM
too many cameras are on them now ... even if some chose to see them through rose tinted glasses....
But that rose-tinted glass makes everyone feel soooo good and comfortable. Everyone watches a holocaust movie and gets so patriotic and Israel-loving, then they are blinded and fail to see the mini-Holocaust happening in Israeli quarters. Ain't it a wonderful world?
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جوري
07-25-2006, 11:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
But that rose-tinted glass makes everyone feel soooo good and comfortable. Everyone watches a holocaust movie and gets so patriotic and Israel-loving, then they are blinded and fail to see the mini-Holocaust happening in Israeli quarters. Ain't it a wonderful world?
you should read the book an empire of their own ..http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/038...861628?ie=UTF8
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Woodrow
07-25-2006, 11:19 PM
If you look carefully at a human being you will notice we only have 2 eyes, they both move in the same direction, both focus on the same object. We all have very limited fields of vision. It is only by comparing perspectives with each other can we every hope to understand the whole picture. An Elephant can not be fully seen from just one view point.



Most countries are larger then Elephants.
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Trumble
07-25-2006, 11:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
I fault Americans and the British for pampering Israel and giving the people and nation a nearly God-like status, even in the eyes of the UN!
You should read up on the history of British policy towards Israel as well.
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Dahir
07-25-2006, 11:22 PM
If you look carefully at a human being you will notice we only have 2 eyes, they both move in the same direction, both focus on the same object. We all have very limited fields of vision. It is only by comparing perspectives with each other can we every hope to understand the whole picture. An Elephant can not be fully seen from just one view point.



Most countries are larger then Elephants.
True, and there can't be understanding if each of us is looking from polar opposite view points. Its even worse when our view points become drawing boards for our actions.
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Dahir
07-26-2006, 12:04 AM
[MAD]This is TOTAL *BLEEEEEEEP*[/MAD]

UPDATE:

The Associate Press CHANGED the story, from FOUR dead, to TWO missing, two DEAD, WHY??


Original Story

New Story
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Woodrow
07-26-2006, 12:15 AM
Why and how would there be any missing?
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Dahir
07-26-2006, 12:18 AM
Why and how would there be any missing?
I have no idea, but the Associate Press is under the pressure of investors and Lobbyists, again.

There can't be anyone stupid enough to outrun IDF artillery, they're first-rate people-killing machines! No one can espcape them, no one has.

This angers me so much. You should've seen the reaction from Kofi Annan, he sent out a letter that ripped into the IDF and Israeli government. Its hard to control a pampered girl who carries a powerful punch, and that little girl, in this case, would be Israel.
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catmando
07-26-2006, 12:48 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
If you look carefully at a human being you will notice we only have 2 eyes, they both move in the same direction, both focus on the same object. We all have very limited fields of vision. It is only by comparing perspectives with each other can we every hope to understand the whole picture. An Elephant can not be fully seen from just one view point.




Most countries are larger then Elephants.
Yes and I hope I never have to view an elephant from underneath his tail.:uhwhat ;D
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north_malaysian
07-26-2006, 07:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
[B]Is it just me or is Israel like the "blonde girl with pig-tails" of the World?[B]
Like Paris Hilton? Innocent but eSTUPIDo!! :giggling:

format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
[B]like Christian Evangelists, view them as Holy people,[B]
They have secret agenda, actually. Before Christ could come down. Israel must exist in order to be mass slaughtered by Jesus army.... I've heard this from someone (dont remember) in one of the Larry King's interview.
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Dahir
07-26-2006, 07:10 PM
They have secret agenda, actually. Before Christ could come down. Israel must exist in order to be mass slaughtered by Jesus army.... I've heard this from someone (dont remember) in one of the Larry King's interview.
Its like that, but here's how it really is:

The Israelites (modern day Russian/German ethnics) must be in the Holy Land for Jesus to be pleased. Then Jesus will come down and reign on Earth, smiting the opposers of his people. Something closer to what you said or what I said. The agenda is somewhat hidden, but knowing Evangies for the least amount of time, anyone will know.

Nixon and Bush were the only Evangie presidents in American history; Nixon gave Israel nuclear power in the 70's, and Bush is the greatest ally of Israel since Nixon...see a patter...?
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Keltoi
07-26-2006, 07:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
Its like that, but here's how it really is:

The Israelites (modern day Russian/German ethnics) must be in the Holy Land for Jesus to be pleased. Then Jesus will come down and reign on Earth, smiting the opposers of his people. Something closer to what you said or what I said. The agenda is somewhat hidden, but knowing Evangies for the least amount of time, anyone will know.

Nixon and Bush were the only Evangie presidents in American history; Nixon gave Israel nuclear power in the 70's, and Bush is the greatest ally of Israel since Nixon...see a patter...?
Not quite accurate. Depending on what your definition of "Evangie" is, I would consider Reagan, Bush Sr, and Jimmy Carter to be of the same religious mold. All American presidents have been great allies of Israel since Truman, it is almost an unsaid responsibility of any U.S. president.
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sweetbanana86
07-26-2006, 07:17 PM
Israel shouldn't have done that, now eveyone is about to mad at Israel
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 03:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
Not quite accurate. Depending on what your definition of "Evangie" is, I would consider Reagan, Bush Sr, and Jimmy Carter to be of the same religious mold. All American presidents have been great allies of Israel since Truman, it is almost an unsaid responsibility of any U.S. president.
Israeli should be the 51st or is it 52nd state of US then...
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Keltoi
07-27-2006, 03:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Israeli should be the 51st or is it 52nd state of US then...
Actually that isn't far from the truth. Israel gets more financial aid from the U.S. government than most states in the U.S.
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 04:00 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
Actually that isn't far from the truth. Israel gets more financial aid from the U.S. government than most states in the U.S.
:uuh: :uuh: :uuh: How about Iraq?
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Keltoi
07-27-2006, 04:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
:uuh: :uuh: :uuh: How about Iraq?
lol...there has been enough money spent on Iraq to give every state in the union a budget surplus and a check for 10,000 dollars for every citizen of every state.
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 04:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
lol...there has been enough money spent on Iraq to give every state in the union a budget surplus and a check for 10,000 dollars for every citizen of every state.
Do American taxpayers know about this? And if they know... are they OK with it?
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Keltoi
07-27-2006, 04:06 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Do American taxpayers know about this? And if they know... are they OK with it?
Well, a military operation of that size costs billions upon billions of dollars, and I think most Americans realize that. However, if there isn't a good outcome in Iraq, you can kiss the Republican Party out of the White House for at least 20 years I believe. Of course, the Dems aren't offering much in the way of leadership lately, so perhaps not that long.
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Dahir
07-27-2006, 04:13 AM
lol...there has been enough money spent on Iraq to give every state in the union a budget surplus and a check for 10,000 dollars for every citizen of every state.
:offended: :grumbling :scared: :thumbs_do :muddlehea :laugh: :'( :mad:


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Where the HECK is my check!!!!??? Where is our surplus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

:offended: :grumbling :scared: :thumbs_do :muddlehea :laugh: :'( :mad:
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 05:05 AM
Israel is a loose cannon

just look at today they kept bombing a U.N office with unarmed peace observers in it who called the israelis 10 times and still they didn't want to listen

they get high on bombing and killing innocent people

hezbollah is holding it's own

it's like David versus KING KONG and GODZILLA plus Goliath

respect!!
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 05:35 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir
:offended: :grumbling :scared: :thumbs_do :muddlehea :laugh: :'( :mad:


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! Where the HECK is my check!!!!??? Where is our surplus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

:offended: :grumbling :scared: :thumbs_do :muddlehea :laugh: :'( :mad:
Maybe Americans should have an Atheist President with socialist background.
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 05:36 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
Israel is a loose cannon

just look at today they kept bombing a U.N office with unarmed peace observers in it who called the israelis 10 times and still they didn't want to listen

they get high on bombing and killing innocent people

hezbollah is holding it's own

it's like David versus KING KONG and GODZILLA plus Goliath

respect!!
DAvid vs Goliath = Hezballah vs. Israel?

Hmmmmm.....
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 05:38 AM
loool why the hmmmmmm..?

hezbollah is the underdog and they made israeli soldiers cry on t.v lol
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 05:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
loool why the hmmmmmm..?

hezbollah is the underdog and they made israeli soldiers cry on t.v lol
Hezbollah as David and ISraael as Goliath - WHAT A CONTRAST!!!
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 05:53 AM
lol i know but this time it's the descendants of canaan who will will chase away the israeli armies insha-allah
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 06:08 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
lol i know but this time it's the descendants of canaan who will will chase away the israeli armies insha-allah
Palestinians are descendant of Cannanites. I thought they are no longer exist?
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 06:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
Israel is a loose cannon

just look at today they kept bombing a U.N office with unarmed peace observers in it who called the israelis 10 times and still they didn't want to listen

they get high on bombing and killing innocent people

hezbollah is holding it's own

it's like David versus KING KONG and GODZILLA plus Goliath

respect!!
It's a bit harsh to say "they get high on bombing and killing innocent people".
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 06:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Palestinians are descendant of Cannanites. I thought they are no longer exist?
i really don't know:hiding:

present day Palistine was called canaan and there was a group who lived there who were called philistines i thought they were the ancestors of present day palistinians:?

so who were the ancestors of modern day palistinians??
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 06:34 AM
"Jews, Romans, Arabs, Crusaders, and other people have all settled in the region and intermarried [16][17]. Many of their descendants converted to Christianity and later to Islam, and spoke different languages depending on the lingua franca of the time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian

I think they are a hodgepodge type of people.
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 06:37 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
It's a bit harsh to say "they get high on bombing and killing innocent people".
when i saw today the computer simulation of the U.N office bombings

where tanks were non-stop shelling the U.N even when it was calling them and asked them to stop

the office was flattened from the air with a heavy bomb

the only thing that came into my mind was these soldiers were high on something and they must have been high from the previous killings

adrenaline can be addictive
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Quruxbadaan
07-27-2006, 06:38 AM
very very very sad situation in the world today

but its been predicted by prophet muhammad that a time would come when the muslims would get eaten like a plate of food surrounded by hungry people and that the muslims would be numerouse except they would be weak like the foam or froth from the ocean

i forget if its in BUkhari

can somebody try to locate it if so send it to me please ?? thanks

peace
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 06:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
when i saw today the computer simulation of the U.N office bombings

where tanks were non-stop shelling the U.N even when it was calling them and asked them to stop

the office was flattened from the air with a heavy bomb

the only thing that came into my mind was these soldiers were high on something and they must have been high from the previous killings

adrenaline can be addictive
Come on, do you REALLY think it is adrenaline? They want to put an end to the crazy terrorists! Get with the program!
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 06:49 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
Come on, do you REALLY think it is adrenaline? They want to put an end to the crazy terrorists! Get with the program!
i didn't know the U.N were crazy terrorists same with the 300 lebanese civilians who were killed by israeli soldiers

or the civilian airport that was bombed or the civilian infrastructure that was destroyed

i think Israel should reprogram it's whole policy cause i really don't see an ending in sight of this conflict that killed innocent people on both sides

but lets hope i'm wrong
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 06:53 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
i didn't know the U.N were crazy terrorists same with the 300 lebanese civilians who were killed by israeli soldiers

or the civilian airport that was bombed or the civilian infrastructure that was destroyed

i think Israel should reprogram it's whole policy cause i really don't see an ending in sight of this conflict that killed innocent people on both sides

but lets hope i'm wrong
collateral damage-yeah it's an ugly phrase

You must realize that even Islam supports war and the shedding of innocent blood in times of war.

Hezbolah is a terrorist organization! Proven fact! They must pay for their evil actions. Sadly innocents get killed. Oh yeah...they hide among the innocents! How brave of them!

I say "Death to all members of terrorist organizations!"
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 07:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
collateral damage-yeah it's an ugly phrase

You must realize that even Islam supports war and the shedding of innocent blood in times of war.
Islam is very clear on the point that muslims are not alloud to kill non combatants

these attacks on civilian infrastructure are war crimes and might come to hunt Israel's current administration
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 07:11 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
Islam is very clear on the point that muslims are not alloud to kill non combatants

these attacks on civilian infrastructure are war crimes and might come to hunt Israel's current administration
I'm not a muslim. Can you provide for me a source which indicates that defense of ones country is wrong? Whenever there is defense there is ALWAYS innocent lives lost.
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 07:21 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
"Jews, Romans, Arabs, Crusaders, and other people have all settled in the region and intermarried [16][17]. Many of their descendants converted to Christianity and later to Islam, and spoke different languages depending on the lingua franca of the time."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian

I think they are a hodgepodge type of people.
:uuh: .... so a person who suicide bombing might have the same ancestor as the person he bombed?
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 07:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
:uuh: .... so a person who suicide bombing might have the same ancestor as the person he bombed?
Yep. But you need to consider that humans from the same area have migrated to all ends of the globe. We're all from the same area. It's odd when you think that we're all related. It sort of makes me want to treat people nicer.
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AHMED_GUREY
07-27-2006, 07:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
I'm not a muslim. Can you provide for me a source which indicates that defense of ones country is wrong?
i don't see the point of providing a source on something i never stated

i never said Islam tells muslims or non muslims defending your country is wrong

there's a difference between defending your country and innocent people dying and making a statement like..

''Islam supports the shedding of innocent blood''

i replied to that statement and i said non combatants are not alloud to be killed according to the rules of war in Islam

i have to go to work

peace!
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 07:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AHMED_GUREY
i don't see the point of providing a source on something i never stated

i never said Islam tells muslims or non muslims defending your country is wrong

there's a difference between defending your country and innocent people dying and making a statement like..

''Islam supports the shedding of innocent blood''

i replied to that statement and i said non combatants are not alloud to be killed according to the rules of war in Islam

i have to go to work

peace!
There is NO war which does not involve the spilling of innocent blood.

My point is that Israel views their acts as defense. What's so hard to understand?
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 07:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
Yep. But you need to consider that humans from the same area have migrated to all ends of the globe. We're all from the same area. It's odd when you think that we're all related. It sort of makes me want to treat people nicer.
At the end .... we are all humans. I think all of us can be united when martians coming attacking us.
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 07:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
There is NO war which does not involve the spilling of innocent blood.

My point is that Israel views their acts as defense. What's so hard to understand?
I understand that Israel has the right to defence their country, but they have over-defending their country by targetting Christian and Sunni townships too. Plus making lots of foreigners - both expats and holidaymakers traumatized.
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Dahir
07-27-2006, 07:33 AM
Maybe Americans should have an Atheist President with socialist background.
Yes! Oh man, I actually wanted Bush to get re-elected, I thought it would be funny and odd how the world's most hated man wins two terms, but the joke is turning into a disaster! :heated:
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 07:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
I understand that Israel has the right to defence their country, but they have over-defending their country by targetting Christian and Sunni townships too. Plus making lots of foreigners - both expats and holidaymakers traumatized.
War is inconvenient.
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north_malaysian
07-27-2006, 07:44 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul
War is inconvenient.
Do u think Israel is comfortable, when more and more of her soldiers killed by Hezballah INSIDE LEBANON?
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searchingsoul
07-27-2006, 07:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Do u think Israel is comfortable, when more and more of her soldiers killed by Hezballah INSIDE LEBANON?
The soldiers being killed aren't experiencing comfort. Israel overall is comfortable.
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