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Joe98
That would be silly. Please quote the paragraph.
Salaam,
Here it is..
[PIE]In the prophecy watching of dispensational premillennialism, Israel, Israelis and Jews in general play a central role in the "end times" drama. Their roles in this narrative means they must either be converted to premillennialist version of Christianity or be led astray by the Antichrist. There is no choice to remain Jewish. The only other option, for those who remain Jewish in this narrative, is to be destroyed by either the Antichrist, or in the end, by the militant avenger, the victorious Jesus Christ himself. A great part of this comes from the Christian fundamentalist belief in Jews as the "deniers" of Jesus as the Messiah, as was mentioned above as something that has long fueled anti-Semitism among Christians. In the Left Behind books, these "deniers" are seen as "incomplete Jews," a notion that is central to the Left Behind novels, making Jews the pivotal players in this fantastical prophetic drama, much to their dismay. For these are "incomplete Jews" waiting to be turned into "believing Jews," meaning converts to this sect of Christianity, if you follow the narrative of the Left Behind books.
A paradoxical aspect of dispensational premillennialism is an overt support for the "State of Israel" by these believers in real life, often called philo-Semitism, as opposed to anti-Semitism. This support lies in their belief that the current state of Israel must expand and take possession of the land that was the Biblical "Land of Israel" which accounts for their massive support of Jewish expansion of settlements, the return of Jews to Israel, and support of far-right messianic Jewish groups that have similar goals based on their own readings of prophecy. This support is also often called Christian Zionism. Far from being for a love or respect for Judaism in its own regard, the end game for premillennialists is the idea that 144,000 Jews in that Biblical expanded State of Israel will convert to Christianity, becoming "believing Jews" and not the "incomplete Jews" they were before. The rest, sadly, will be eliminated in this ideology.[/PIE]
[PIE]For these books, LaHaye provides Jenkins with a detailed outline of prophecy based on the beliefs of dispensational premillennialism, a previously minor Protestant belief system that proposes a "Rapture" of "true believers" to Heaven prior to a seven-year period of tribulation culminating in the return of Jesus Christ and the Battle of Armageddon between the true believers and Satan. These beliefs came into being only 150 years ago when Scottish preacher John Darby formulated the ideas, ideas later disseminated in popular bibles such as the Scofield Reference Bible. They found a home in Protestant fundamentalism in the US and were propagated throughout academic systems, mainly through the Dallas Theological Seminary. The beliefs of dispensational premillennialism are then converted into a fictional narrative set in the present day and hung on the scaffolding of premillennialist prophecy interpretation, mostly based on the interpretation of the Book of Revelations. Besides LaHaye, evangelists such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are among the most well-known believers in these doctrines.[/PIE]
http://www.nthposition.com/justwhatareincomplete.php
And of course more..
[PIE]The purge of Israel in their time of trouble is described by Zechariah in these words: "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith Jehovah, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part into the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried" (Zechariah 13:8, 9). According to Zechariah’s prophecy, two thirds of the children of Israel in the land will perish, but the one third that are left will be refined and be awaiting the deliverance of God at the second coming of Christ which is described in the next chapter of Zechariah. [John F. Walvoord, Israel in Prophecy (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, [1962] 1988), p. 108.
Nothing can or will be done by Christians to save Israel’s Jews from this disaster, for all of the Christians will have been removed from this world three and a half years prior to the beginning of this 42-month period of tribulation. (The total period of seven years is interpreted as the fulfillment of the seventieth week of Daniel [Dan. 9:27].)
In order for most of today’s Christians to escape physical death, two-thirds of the Jews in Israel must perish, soon. This is the grim prophetic trade-off that fundamentalists rarely discuss publicly, but which is the central motivation in the movement’s support for Israel. It should be clear why they believe that Israel must be defended at all costs by the West. If Israel were militarily removed from history prior to the Rapture, then the strongest case for Christians’ imminent escape from death would have to be abandoned. This would mean the indefinite delay of the Rapture. The fundamentalist movement thrives on the doctrine of the imminent Rapture, not the indefinitely postponed Rapture.
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/north7.html
Of course if you want there are more DISTURBING links to what some chrisitan beleive.And why the Chrisitan so want Isreal to be.
So as i say Jews and Chrisitans want the same Propehcies but differnt ending.
For the Jews they want to be masters of this world,for the chrsitian they want the jews to be there to die so that they can asecend to heaven.
Deplorable and sick...