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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 09:07 PM
huge armies will come to destroy Makkah when Mahdi comes right.
Im thinking lebanon/syria/etc etc will get attacked till Makkah is attacked. I was simply wondering who else thinks the time of Mahdi is EXTREMELY close?



is it wrong to wonder when he will come and be eager?


:wasalamex


PS: PEOPLE GET TRAINING!! MUJAHIDEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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afriend
08-10-2006, 09:10 PM
Among the major signs of Qiyaamat is the advent of Imam Mahdi (Alayhis salaam). Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) predicted the coming of Imam Mahdi towards the end of this worldly existence, i.e. just before The Day of Judgement.

Hazrat Abu Hurairah (radiyallahu anhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said:

"If only one day is left for the end of the world, Allah will lengthen that day until a man from my family, whose name will be the same as mine, rules the world.” (Tirmizi Shareef)

This indicates the emphasis, which The Holy Messenger of Allah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam laid on the coming of Imam Mahdi.

This booklet contains all the details about the life and advent of Imam Mahdi, and all these facts are derived from authentic Ahadith on this topic.

There is much speculation nowadays on whether Imam Mahdi has already been born and if so, what would be his present age, and when the impending appearance. Some Ulama have claimed that he is already born.

However, Muslims should realise that mere speculation does not represent concrete evidence upon which any firm and clear-cut ruling could be based. Hence, the best course of action is to believe that Imam Mahdi will appear' before Qiyaamat, but exactly when, only Allah knows. The date and time of his arrival we leave to The Knowledge of Allah. However, Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) did give certain signs, which will herald the arrival of this great Imam. The Ahadith on this issue leave no room for rejecting or even doubting the coming of Imam Mahdi. Neither do the facts leave us in the dark as to recognising this great Imam when he eventually does arrive.



DETAILS OF IMAM MAHDI


The following are facts taken from the Ahadith of Rasulullah( Sallallahu alayhi wasallam):

Name and Title

His name will be the same as that of (Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam), i.e. Muhammad. In addition, his father's name will be Abdullah. His title is Al-Mahdi, meaning the guided one. The Holy Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wasallam also called him Khaleefatullah, meaning "the Deputy of Allah".

FAMILY LINEAGE

Imam Mahdi will belong to the tribe of Quraish and the family of Hazrat Fatima (radiyallahu anha), the offspring of Hazrat Imam Hasan (radiyallahu anhu).

CHARACTER


He will have the character and morals of Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam). In one night Allah will grant him unique qualities of faith, piety, leadership and knowledge. Hence the title Mahdi.

BIRTHPLACE


He will be born in Madinah Shareef.

PHYSICAL FEATURES



He will have a broad forehead (with not much hair on the front of his head) and the bridge of his nose will be raised.

SIGNS BEFORE HIS APPEARANCE AS THE MAHDI


The world will be filled with a great amount of injustice and oppression. There will be widespread evil in which all people will be heavily involved.
Muslim countries and their people will have become so weak that even animals would defeat them in battle.

Muslims would be totally disunited, hence their state of weakness. On the other hand, the Kuffaar (Jews and Christians) of the whole world would be united under one leader. Their rule would spread over the entire world, and would reach as far as Khaibar, a mere hundred miles from Madinah Shareef. Such would be the dominance of kuffaar during that era.

The Muslims would also be under severe persecution and oppression from the Khaleefah of that time and they will have no place to run.

The Ahle Bait (Family of Nabi Muhammad Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) will experience difficulties and persecution.

Throughout the world earthquakes would occur frequently. Innocent people will be put to death. A man by the name of Haarith Harraath will emerge from beyond the Euphrates river, and before him will be another by the name of Mansoor. The former (i.e. Haarith) will be preparing the minds of Muslims to-accept Imam Mahdi when he comes. He will perform the same task for Imam Mahdi, what the Quraish performed for Rasulullah (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) in Madinah before Hijrat. Mansoor will aid him in this direction.

It is wajib upon every Muslim to help this Haarith, or to respond to his call.

The Abdaals and pious leaders will all be on the lookout for Imam Mahdi, knowing that only he could bring relief to the failing Ummat.

There will be a fight in Makkah between three people, each one being the son of a Khaleefah, over leadership of the Muslims. However, none of them will gain the Khilafat. This fight will take place in the month of Zul-Qa'dah, and even in Mina during Hajj, there will be quarrelling. All this will occur in the same year as Imam Mahdi's election.

An army will come from the East towards Arabia. The East here refers to Khurasan, i.e. northeastern Iran, which includes the borders of the Soviet Union and Afghanistan. They will pave the way for the establishment of Imam Mahdi's kingdom. This army will carry black banners. Nothing shall stop their onward march, and eventually they will plant their flag on the soils of Jerusalem.

This army will seek the leadership of Arabia. The current leader will refuse to hand over the Khilafat.

A tremendously fierce battle will ensue, the likes of which Muslims had never yet experienced. The army from Khurasan will be victorious and will eventually be granted the leadership.

IMAM MAHDI'S EMERGENCE AS THE NEW KHALEEFA


Having gained the right to appoint the new Khaleefah, they will nominate a member of their army, a man from The Holy Prophet's family, for this position. This man will be The Mahdi, who had also joined the ranks of this army when they entered Arabia.

He will not accept this post and will fleet from Madinah Munawwarah to Makkah Mukarramah. However, his people will be convinced that this is the only man for, the job. And so consequently, a group of people from Makkah will look for him in The Holy City and find him making tawaaf. They will force him to accept the post of Khilafat. Imam Mahdi will reluctantly agree to this offer. They will actually lead him by the hand towards the Hajare Aswad, where people will then formally pledge their allegiance to him as the Khaleefah. This pledge will take place in front of The Holy Ka 'ba, between the Hajare Aswad and the Maqaame Ibraheem, during or just after the days of Hajj.

At the time of this Bay 'at a voice will call out from the heavens: “This is the appointed Khaleefah of Allah, the Mahdi!”

Initially the number of people to take the bay 'at pledge of allegiance at his hands will be 313, which is the number of Sahaba that took part in the battle of Badr. He will be forty years old at the time of his appointment.

PROTECTION AND ACCEPTANCE BY ALLAH


Immediately upon his appointment as the new Khaleefah Imam Mahdi will witness the direct Help of Allah. A man from the heart of Damascus, known as Sufyaani (from the family of Abu Sufyaan) will begin a horrendous campaign of bloodshed and killing, during which no tribe or community will be left alone. Even women and children will be mercilessly butchered. His chief supporters and followers will be the tribe of Kalb.

When this Sufyaani hears of Imam Mahdi, he will immediately dispatch an army towards Makkah (where the Mahdi will be). This army will be easily defeated by the Imam and his handful of followers. Then this Sufyaani will himself lead a contingent from Syria towards Makkah to fight against Imam Mahdi.

This army will be destroyed by an enormous earthquake at Baidaa, a place just after Zhul-Hulaifa, on the way to Makkah. First the rear of the army will be devastated, and when those in front go back to see what had happened, they too will meet the same fate. All but one member of this army will perish, and this sole survivor will take back the news of this disaster. There will be many in this army who had been brought along by force, people who did not intend to oppose Imam Mahdi. Such people would also be destroyed along with the others, but on Qiyaamat they will be raised up according to their intentions. When the story of Divine Help being granted to Imam Mahdi spreads through the Muslim world, the Abdaals of Syria and the pious people of Iraq will come to pledge allegiance to Imam Mahdi and join his ranks.

Similarly, other Muslim armies from Madinah and elsewhere will also come to Makkah and offer their support and allegiance to Imam Mahdi.

A man from the Quraish tribe will then emerge and oppose the Imam. This man also will have the backing of the tribe of Kalb. He too will send an army against Imam Mahdi, who will yet again, through The Grace of Allah, inflict heavy defeat on his enemies.

The Prophet of Allah actually castigated those who do not participate in this battle against the Kalb. The inhabitants of the heavens and the inhabitants of the earth will be pleased with him.

It will be wajib upon all Muslims who hear of Imam Mahdi to pledge their allegiance and full support to him.

HIS LEADERSHIP, BATTLES AND ACHIEVEMENTS


With his army now bolstered by saintly and pious people Imam Mahdi will defeat his enemies, as we have seen in the initial battles mentioned above.

He will become the supreme leader and reformer of the Muslim Ummat.

There will be a great Islamic revival, and this Deen will reign supreme. He will fill the world with justice after it had been plagued with oppression.

He will practice and lead people according to the Sunnat of Nabi Muhammad (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam).

He will rule for seven to nine years, with complete justice and righteousness, and all this time Islam will be the predominant religion of the world. .

During his rule, the Muslims will experience great economic enrichment. There will be no droughts and lands will be exceptionally fertile. The earth will yield crops in abundance and of the best quality. This rich agricultural state will ensure a glut of money and food. In fact, so much that people who come to the Baitul-Maal for ***istance will be given as much as they can take away.

In short the Muslims will live a most luxurious and comfortable life, something they will never ever experience again in this world.

Imam Mahdi will distribute lands equally among people. Muslims will live in great harmony with each other. Gone will be the days of in fighting, strife and disunity.

The hearts of people will become so independent of wealth and so dependent on Allah that when an announcement is made for the needy to come forward, only one person will stand up. When this person will be given wealth in such abundance, he will feel ashamed and would want to return the wealth, but the answer will be: "We do not take back what has been given. It's all yours to keep."

Jerusalem will also be captured by Muslims (as stated earlier under "signs before his appearance").

Imam Mahdi will conquer the city of Constantinople (presently known as Istanbul). The story behind this conquest is as follows:

After the earthquakes, which destroyed his enemies, and the subsequent am***ing of Muslim armies under his leadership, the Imam will leave Makkah for Madinah, where he will offer salaam at the Rowzha Mubarak (The Grave of Rasulullah Sallallahu alayhi wasallam).

Having done this his next step would be to proceed on to Damascus, where the bulk of the Nasaara (Christian) forces would be deployed.

In Damascus, the Imam will set up his headquarters. From here, he will conduct military operations against the enemies of Islam, and from here, he will rule.

At a place known as either A 'maaq or Daabiq, somewhere near Allepo Syria, 960,000 Christian forces would be ***embled under 80 banners, quite clearly to annihilate the Muslims.

Imam Mahdi will send a battalion of Muslim fighters, from among the best people on earth, to engage them. When the two groups encounter each other face to face, the Romans will request that the Muslims hand over to them those who had fought and captured their Roman brethren. The Muslims will refuse, saying: “We will never hand over our Muslim brothers” thus triggering off a fierce battle. A third of the Muslim army will flee, and Allah will never ever grant them towba (repentance). A third will be slain, and they will be the noblest martyrs in The Sight of Allah. The surviving third will be victorious, never to suffer defeat thereafter.

This battle will last four days. Each day the Muslim troops will resolve on oath that they will not return but as victors. For three days, they will fail to crush the enemy, with many men becoming martyrs. On the fourth day, the Christians will falter and succumb to a tremendous onslaught from the remaining Muslim troops. The ensuing slaughter will be unprecedented in history. This decimation will utterly shatter the morale of the Christians.

Thus, Imam Mahdi will smash the might of the non-Muslims forces in that period, forces which had come together from all parts of the world.

Pressing forward, the next destination will be Turkey. From the Syrian coast, Imam Mahdi will dispatch seventy thousand soldiers of the Banu Ishaq tribe to conquer Constantinople. They will cross the Mediterranean Sea, bound for Turkey and will conquer Istanbul without the use of a single weapon. Parts of the city will collapse upon the Takbeer and Tahleel of these warriors. They will recite' Laa ilaha ilial-laahu wallahu Akbar' and simply walk over the city. The Muazhzhins of the Muslims will then establish the five times daily azhaan throughout the city.

This will occur about six years after Imam Mahdi had come to power.

Imam Mahdi will also arrive at Constantinople and set up the structure for his rule, appoint people to govern there and most importantly, make arrangements for the implementation of Islamic law.

This conquest will deliver untold fortunes into the hands of the Muslims. As he and his men busy, themselves capturing and rounding up these vast riches a rumour will spread that "the Dajjaal has broken loose in Syria and is wreaking havoc among your families.” This news will be very disturbing to the Imam, and so consequently, he will hurriedly leave for Syria. In the meantime, ten men will be sent ahead to ascertain the truth. About these ten The Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “ I know their names and the names of their fathers they will be among the best warriors in that era.” Nabi e Kareem (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) even knew the colour of their horses.

One of them will report that the whole story is false. Dajjaal has not yet emerged. This was a lie fabricated by Shaitaan to try and disrupt the progress of the Muslims. Imam Mahdi will resume his return journey to Syria with greater ease and comfort once he learns that Dajjaal is not yet loose.

He will stop over in all the towns and cities along the route to survey the situation and make necessary arrangements for government.

Meanwhile the conquerors of Istanbul will march on and invade parts of Western Europe (Greece, Italy, etc.) in the same manner, with the Takbeer and Kalimah. All this area will fall under the rule of Imam Mahdi.

A few weeks after Imam Mahdi reaches Damascus the great imposter, Dajjaal will now truly emerge and begin his campaign of mischief and corruption.

Since the Dajjaal will have a large following of mainly Jews and illegitimate people (those born out of marriage), the Muslims under Imam Mahdi will resume preparations for war. They will be busy arranging the formation of their troops during the time of Fajr. The jamaat salaah will be almost about to start when suddenly Sayyidina Eesa (Alayhis salaam) will descend from the heavens and join the ranks of Muslims for salaah. He will lead the Fajr salaah.

After the slaying of Dajjaal by Nabi Eesa, Imam Mahdi will not live for very long. A few months will elapse and this great Imam, a man who provided the perfect sequel to Allah's Supreme Religion -ISLAM, will p*** on to the realms of the hereafter. The Muslims will perform his Janaaza salaah and bury him. The Holy Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) warned that there would be no better in life after Imam Mahdi.

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All the above happenings are taken from the authentic Ahadith of Rasulullah( Sallallahu alayhi wasallam). Therefore, the fulfillment of these prophecies will leave absolutely no doubt in the, minds of even the most ardent critics or sceptics, as to the veracity and truthfulness of Our Noble Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam).
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 09:12 PM
mashAllah ^ So u think his comin? Soon :happy: START TRAINING :D
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afriend
08-10-2006, 09:13 PM
lol Yeah....

I am training ;)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 09:14 PM
^ mashAllah, who else thinks his bout to come and why inshaAllah, come on get me happy :happy: :)
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 09:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by HusamLah
im training my actions and changing my lifestyle
mashALlah may Allah reward you,




http://www.streetdawah.com/lectures.html


^^ THESE LECTURES ARE GRREAT!!! Understand whats coming, be prepared... BE PREPARED!!!
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afriend
08-10-2006, 09:19 PM
Street da'wah is cool....A huge range of stuff goin on in there....

That gun as the media control is sooo cool....keep pressing stop and record the sound....IT'S COOL I TELL YA!!

[ok I'm gonna stop jokin around now I look like a fool]
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 09:24 PM
Mahdi will come when, lebanon, syria, egypt and finally Makkah will be attacked. But those who try to infiltrate the sacred house shall be sucked up by the earth like the losers they are and surely those who go against Allah are losers.


Three signs to PROVE it IS Mahdi:

1. swallowing of the army by ground.

2. People will give bayat between the black stone and mukkami ibrahim.

3. Black flags will come from khurasan !!!







When will makkah be attacked... if u look at the corruption it looks like it can be anyday now :eek:
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rizwana87
08-10-2006, 09:53 PM
omg thts so scary :'( i dont wanna see all the bad stuff happen it kinda freaks you out, i guess Qiyamat is close now..very close...
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 09:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by rizwana87
omg thts so scary :'( i dont wanna see all the bad stuff happen it kinda freaks you out, i guess Qiyamat is close now..very close...
what do u mean? Theres a lotta corruption around right now, and if mahdi's around we'll have a righteous group of muslims to get martyred with INSHAALLAH :D
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 09:59 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Oooh man!!..this is awfully scary!! "Iqtarabatis Saa3ah..." the time has come near!! :(

Hmmm...I'd like to see the kuffaar getting sucked up by the earth when they try to approach Makkah!!

khasafal Allahu bi'himul Ardh!!
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

Oooh man!!..this is awfully scary!! "Iqtarabatis Saa3ah..." the time has come near!! :(

Hmmm...I'd like to see the kuffaar getting sucked up by the earth when they try to approach Makkah!!

khasafal Allahu bi'himul Ardh!!
seriously whats so scary about it... am i weird or is my iman weird or weak or something... should i fear the coming of Mahdi... coz i actually prepare and wait 4 it instead....
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rizwana87
08-10-2006, 10:01 PM
what do u mean? Theres a lotta corruption around right now, and if mahdi's around we'll have a righteous group of muslims to get martyred with INSHAALLAH
well its just scary knowing tht qiyamat is close yet i aint prepared!!! yh corruption is an ongoing problem and just getting worse day by day but like reading upon stuff like this makes you realise how close you really are to qiyamat
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rizwana87
08-10-2006, 10:03 PM
seriously whats so scary about it... am i weird or is my iman weird or weak or something... should i fear the coming of Mahdi... coz i actually prepare and wait 4 it instead....
mashallah it seems as if your prepared, some of us are a bit scared about things like this not everyone is as strong as you!!
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by rizwana87
well its just scary knowing tht qiyamat is close yet i aint prepared!!! yh corruption is an ongoing problem and just getting worse day by day but like reading upon stuff like this makes you realise how close you really are to qiyamat

you kno the first sign of Qiyamat? gess... its the coming of rasullulah saws :p


He joined two of his fingers and said: Me and the day of judgement are as this!

SubhanAllah, and one narration he said: Its as though it has preceded me.

SubhanALlah and in another narration he said: Its like waiting for the maghrib after Asr! SubhanAllah!


^ MAY ALLAH FORGIVE ME For ANY MISTAKES INSHAALLAH! Thats all from memory, plz correct if necc***ary inshaAllah

wen Mahdi comes... the major signs will follow, may Allah give us thawfiq to be among the righteous inshaAllah! AMEEN!
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rizwana87
08-10-2006, 10:07 PM
may Allah give us thawfiq to be among the righteous inshaAllah! AMEEN!
ameen! i like reading up on qiyamat it just intrigues me and your post was really good mashallah but then reading stuff like this kinda makes you (me rather) scared coz you know you aint prepared
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 10:11 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

the coming of mthe mahdi is not scary!!..it's the fact that..

THAT is a sign..

of the coming of time!!

and that rhymes :D ....seriously though!! that is min 3alaamat as-sa3ah al-kubraa ... from the large/main signs of the approach of yawmal al-qiyaamah...

should we be lookin' forward to it???....

it's pretty scary for me..when you look at yourself..what have you accomplished?? in your life take everything into account!!, & you see that you have'nt accomplished alot or as much as you should, and you've been lazying around and all...i guess one would rather feel scared of meeting Thy Lord!!...and havin' your 3amaal displayed infront of you ...and you know the rest.........

May I ask...how are you preparing?
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by rizwana87
ameen! i like reading up on qiyamat it just intrigues me and your post was really good mashallah but then reading stuff like this kinda makes you (me rather) scared coz you know you aint prepared
sis then inshaAllah please listen to Imam Anwar Al-Awlakis 22 part lecture on the akhirah. It describes every sahih sign before the day of judgement, the day of judgement itself, and then it goes on to describe heaven and hell. SubhanAllah! Im currently on part 18 and im also reading Ibn Khatir's "Book of the End: Trials and Tribulations" which explains a lot of the same issues. I actually read the book and then hear what it says in the lecture sometimes :D.


Sry for the essay but i jus wanna say, it will reaffirm your faith, and it will move you a lot inshaAllah. so

"IMAM ANWAR Al-AWLAKI - AL AKHIRA"
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rizwana87
08-10-2006, 10:18 PM
you see that you have'nt accomplished alot or as much as you should, and you've been lazying around and all...i guess one would rather feel scared of meeting Thy Lord!!...and havin' your 3amaal displayed infront of you ...and you know the rest.........
^^^tht is very true maybe thts why im scared coz i know i havent done anything!

Imam Anwar Al-Awlakis 22 part lecture on the akhirah. It describes every sahih sign before the day of judgement, the day of judgement itself, and then it goes on to describe heaven and hell. SubhanAllah! Im currently on part 18 and im also reading Ibn Khatir's "Book of the End: Trials and Tribulations
^^^ill try and get tht book and read it maybe it will help me jazkallah!!!
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

the coming of mthe mahdi is not scary!!..it's the fact that..

THAT is a sign..

of the coming of time!!

and that rhymes :D
ok....

....seriously though!!
Alhamdullilah!!!!

that is min 3alaamat as-sa3ah al-kubraa ... from the large/main signs of the approach of yawmal al-qiyaamah...
I heard Mahdi was of the minor signs Allahu Allam

should we be lookin' forward to it???....
***HEARTS OF GREEN BIRDS***



it's pretty scary for me..when you look at yourself..what have you accomplished?? in your life take everything into account!!, & you see that you have'nt accomplished alot or as much as you should, and you've been lazying around and all...i guess one would rather feel scared of meeting Thy Lord!!...and havin' your 3amaal displayed infront of you ...and you know the rest.........
i think, "what could be more rewarding then helping the Mahdi and fighting for Allah?" So i pray he comes and Allah gives me the thawfiq to do this inshaAllah!

May I ask...how are you preparing?
biking/sports/fitness/learning arabic/m***ing quran and lectures
TAWWAQUL!!!!
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 10:28 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Hmmmmmmm...I must be weak in my Imaan or sumthing..Allahul musta3aan :cry:

biking/sports/fitness/learning arabic/m***ing quran and lectures
TAWWAQUL!!!!
MashaAllah physical hunh!!?? how bout mentaliy...:?

May Allah give us all the tawfeeq!!...

I heard Mahdi was of the minor signs Allahu Allam
hmmmm....i'll see if i can check into that, but i doubt that it's from the minor signs...and Allah knows best!!

but i'm pretty sure it's from the major signs!!

nice pic of the green bird... i heard they fly and wander round the 3arsh of Ar-Rahmaan!! :wub:
that's motivating :)
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rizwana87
08-10-2006, 10:32 PM
i thought the coming of mahdi would probly be one of the major signs!
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

Hmmmmmmm...I must be weak in my Imaan or sumthing..Allahul musta3aan :cry:
dont b silly !!!!!!!


MashaAllah physical hunh!!?? how bout mentaliy...:?
what do u think the quran and lectures are for lol!

May Allah give us all the tawfeeq!!...
Ameen thumma Ameen


Allah knows best!!
Agreed!

nice pic of the green bird... i heard they fly and wander round the 3arsh of Ar-Rahmaan!! :wub:
that's motivating :)
*goes into deep thought....*
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by rizwana87
i thought the coming of mahdi would probly be one of the major signs!
first of the major signs according to sahih muslim either one of two, The beast coming out or the sun rising from the west will occur. Then the signs will drop like beads from a string and Mahdi will come before both of them!

Allahu Allam Allah knows best :)
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Islamicboy
08-10-2006, 10:39 PM
There are some muslims who say this is going to be the second coming of Imam Mehdi A.S. just like Isa A.S.. Whats up with that?
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Islamicboy
There are some muslims who say this is going to be the second coming of Imam Mehdi A.S. just like Isa A.S.. Whats up with that?
dont listen to them! Its clear from Muhammad saws that Mahdi comes only once, mayb there getting confused with the fact that Mahdi has exactly the same name as Muhammad saws, Muhammad Ibn Abdullah? sounds like a sect bro, best ignored:)
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 10:42 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

first of the major signs according to sahih muslim either one of two, The beast coming out or the sun rising from the west will occur. Then the signs will drop like beads from a string and Mahdi will come before both of them!
True, may I read the hadeeth in it's length please...(if you have it with you!)...jazakallahu khayr!

but when one major sign comes..the other will follow behind like it's tail right!!...
so does'nt this hadeeth show that the mahdi is from the major signs!!??...cause if it stated the appearnce al-mahdi being either one of them...it does'nt matter whether it comes first or second..it's categorised as the major signs..Allahu a3lam!!....
D'you get my point :X
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 10:49 PM
:wasalamex
format_quote Originally Posted by Amirah
True, may I read the hadeeth in it's length please...(if you have it with you!)...jazakallahu khayr!
^ sure :)

format_quote Originally Posted by Sahih Muslim

Book 041, Number 7025:
Abdullah b. 'Amr reported: I committed to memory a hadith from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and I did not forget it after I had heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The first sign (nut of the signs of the appearance of the Dajjal) would be the appearance of the sun from the west, the appearance of the beast before the people in the forenoon and whkch of the two hap- pens first, the second one would follow immediately after that.
Major Signs:

SAHIH MUSLIM
Book 041, Number 6931:
Hudhaifa b. Usaid Ghifari reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) came to us all of a sudden as we were (busy in a discussion). He said: What do you discuss about? They (the Companions) said. We are discussing about the Last Hour. Thereupon he said: It will not come until you see ten signs before and (in this connection) he made a mention of the smoke, Dajjal, the beast, the rising of the sun from the west, the descent of Jesus son of Mary (Allah be pleased with him), the Gog and Magog, and land-slidings in three places, one in the east, one in the west and one in Arabia at the end of which fire would burn forth from the Yemen, and would drive people to the place of their ***embly.

Mahdi is before all this :)
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 11:00 PM
As salaamu alaykum,

I had in mind all this time time that the Mahdi was from the major signs...:(

*Scracthes head*

I'm gonna Have to research on this inshaAllah!!... :-\

So lemme get this straight..the above ahaadeeth are major signs...how do we know that in another narration it stated this!!....

Mahdi is before all this
D'you have a daleel for this...... :hiding: :-\
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 11:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87

D'you have a daleel for this...... :hiding: :-\
According to Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki, A great scholar (whos name i forgot) who studied in a great university (of the name which i forgot) studied a degree on the signs before qiyamat and compiled a book on his knowledge. The most sahih hadith was used from this book in imam anwar al-awlaki's talk and he concluded that Imam Mahdi is not of the major signs... it was very convincing :eek:
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 11:08 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

Ok MashaAllah...

I done some fishing inshaAllah still trying to look for a proper hujjah!!

The Mahdi: Islam’s Awaited Messiah

Among the Major Signs, the most anticipated and central sign that Muslims are awaiting is the coming of a man known as, “The Mahdi.” In Arabic, al-Mahdi means, “The Guided One” 1 He is also sometimes referred to by Shi’a Muslims as Sahib Al-Zaman or Al-Mahdi al-Muntadhar which translated mean “The Lord of the Age” and “The Guided/Awaited One.” The Mahdi is the first of the Major Signs. This is confirmed by Ibn Kathir, the renowned Muslim scholar from the eighth century:


After the lesser signs of the Hour appear and increase, mankind will have reached a stage of great suffering. Then the awaited Mahdi will appear; He is the first of the greater clear, signs of the Hour.
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 11:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by amirah_87
as salaamu alaykum,

Ok MashaAllah...

I done some fishing inshaAllah still trying to look for a proper hujjah!!
JazakAllah khair, i guess i was mistaken :).

May ALlah forgive me inshaAllah.


I still cant wait!! Even if his the major...
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 11:15 PM
as salaamu alaykum,

I'm not so sure myself....Allahu a3lam, you could be right :)

Read this InshaAllah....

Hadhrat Umme Salmah (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, " After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madinah) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.

Thereafter a huge army will proceed from Syria to attack him but when they will be at Baida, which is between Makkah and Madina, they will be swallowed into the ground.

On seeing this, the Abdaals of Shaam as well as large numbers of people from Iraq will come to him and pledge their allegiance to him. Then a person from the Quraish, whose uncle will be from the Bani Kalb tribe will send an army to attack him, only to be overpowered, by the will of Allah. This (defeated) army will be that of the Bani Kalb. Unfortunate indeed is he who does not receive a share from the booty of the Kalb. This person (Imam Mahdi) will distribute the spoils of war after the battle. He will lead the people according to the Sunnat and during his reign Islam will spread throughout the world. He will remain till seven years (since his emergence). He will p*** away and the Muslims will perform his Janazah salaat." (Abu Dawood)

According to a Hadeeth, Sayyidena Eesa (A.S.) will lead the Janaazah of Imam Mahdi (A.S.).

While the people will be pledging their allegiance to Imaam Mahdi, a voice from the unseen will call out:

"This is the representative of Allah,
The Mahdi, listen to him and obey him"

This announcement which will be heard by all those present will establish his authenticity. Another sign which will indicate the authenticity of Imaam Mahdi wil be that in the Ramadhaan prior to his emergence an eclipse of the sun and moon will occur.

Hadhrat Abu Umamah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be four peace agreements between you and the Romans. The fourth agreement will be mediated through a person who will be from the progeny of Hadhrat Haroon (A.S.) and will be upheld for seven years."

The people asked: "O Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam), who will be the Imaam of the people at the time?"

Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "He will be from my progeny and will be forty years of age. His face will shine like a star and he will have a black spot on his left cheek. He will don two "Qutwaani" cloaks and will appear exactly as a person from the Bani Israeel..." (Tabrani)

According to hadith narrated by Abu Saeed Khudri (R.A.) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "...(regarding the rule of Imaam Mahdi) the skies will rain down in abundance and the earth will yield forth its crop in abundance, and those alive will desire that those who have already p***ed away should have been alive to enjoy this prosperity..."

Hadhrat Buraidah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "There will be many armies after me. You must join that army which will come from Khurasaan." (Ibn Adi)

Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "(Armies carrying) black flags will come from Khurasaan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eela (Baitul Maqdas) where they will erect their flags."

from: "Signs of Qiyamah"
by Mohammed Ali Ibn Zubair Ali
The thing is in the ahaadeeth that i've come over across it's not really specific whether it's from the major or minor!!:?
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-10-2006, 11:21 PM
i gotta go pray now, but inshaAllah i iwll read it tomorrow and reply. JazakAllah khair for ur efforts sis, this is like my fav subject now :D
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amirah_87
08-10-2006, 11:26 PM
Okay then InshaAllah...It'll give me time to do some research aswell!!..looool

wa iyyak!!....as salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah!

BTW: yeah it is a good topic:thumbs_up
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