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WnbSlveOfAllah
SO providing reference from the source of their belief and backing it up with facts from past actions of Israel is not Evidence for you? Care to prove how I am out of context If you are so sure since you have been mouthing off since your initial post on this thread?
You have done neither. You have spouted bile, which may or may not be true - allahu allum. However, as someone who is either a very new Moslem or yet to reach puberty, you clearly do not understand... well, many things. But here, you have not presented evidence, you have presented conjecture*. Conjecture is not conclusive, and yet you draw conclusions. Oh dear. Regardless of whether or not you actually deserve a patient deconstruction of your over-enthusiastic work of 'art' it is my duty as your brother to give you one.
What I said was that the sources you are quoting are as useful as the ones those rather naughty anti-Moslem chappies who choose to extract pieces of Islam out of temporal or even syntactic context. Do yourself a favour (if this is still unclear to you) pop along to our moderator, Al-Ansar's website for a really very good (though I have to admit, sometimes over-emotive! ;) ) selection of refutals of such malicious nonsense.
My own personal fave is this one from Baqara - And slay them wherever ye find them , and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out , for persecution is worse than slaughter. They always seem to miss out the end of that aya and indeed the 2 very important ones that follow.
Anyway, in short, that is what you are doing - presenting unfounded malicious nonsense.
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Originally Posted by dishdash
Brother, in all seriousness, what were you looking to achieve here? How were you making the world a better place or smoothing your own path to janna?.
I believe I mentioned this already, It is to make everone aware of the evil of Zionism.
And do you honestly believe that this supposition and conjecture will earn you the pleasure of Allah swt? You need to seriously think about YOUR answer to this one.
Brother in all Honesty, your 1st post showed prejudice, you assumed I am trying to make hate against a race or religion.
Where? Or is this more conjecture?!
You could say I made this as a challenge to see my accuracy. I am sure aother Jews have seen this thread and the evidence provided yet they didnn't say I am out of context or refute it.
<sigh> and even if they did, is that evidence!? I have been to many forums - I just don't have the time to refute every misconception there is about Islam as much as I'd love to. It doesn't mean those misconceptions are true! In fact half the time, the absurdity of the misconception is so immense that I find it's probably a greater service to let them stand as monuments to stupidity! Makes us look great!
On a scale of 0 to 10 in such absurdity, yours would I daresay rank around an 8. Maybe Lavikor, as a Jew and an occupant of Haifa can kindly let us know why he did not comment. Or maybe (if we take what you are saying) he is too busy out killing non-Jews. ( oh and the blood on one's fingers makes typing so hard I find...)
Like I say, these guys who you are referring to (and thanks for editing your post!) are hardly credible providers of evidence to your cause. Think they are? Check out this beaut...
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
Now. What you wrote is highly offensive stuff. You would not hesitate, I am sure, to get all riled up if someone slandered Islam in the manner you have just done. Blimey - I would.
I will make it clear that unless my initial claims are refuted, I will not provide more evidence.
What do you mean
more evidence?! Subhan'Allah! You haven't provided any?! And your response to not providing any evidence is - no more evidence!!!!
I did actually find this item of yours rather interesting...
Israel has the right to exist, but no right to invade lands, occupy lands which do not belong to them and kill Innocents. it is clear they do not intend to stop this injustice due to their Zionist belief.
IMHO Israel IS an occupied land - land which does not belong to them... or are you suggesting it exist somewhere else as you see it as some nebulous entity as opposed to a landmass? I'm really not too clear what you actually mean - could you please explain this seemingly self-contradicting statement?
If you know better, and clearly from your rude behaviour/words you believe you are superior, then please enlighten me. Clearly I may have offended you by saying I am sick of people making me repeat myself, I said this assuming they haven't read everything in the thread, so I aplogise if you did read it.
One can only be superior to another in terms of his deen. Allah hafiz. I certainly make no such claims. Oh and I'm not offended. As a father to 5 (no6 due any day now insh'Allah!) and a teacher to far far more, I have to deal with petulance on a daily basis. If people are repeatedly asking you to clarify, something needs clarified. It's quite simple really.
I have pulled you up on a very significant technicality. You should take a deep breath and actually think about what I am saying rather than get all defensive. I don't doubt the purity of your heart nor your intentions, but what you are doing here is wrong. It is my duty to point that out. We are told - do not slander the religion of others, for they will slander ours. By putting up hearsay, speculation, conjecture, gossip and links to hate-sites, you are not going to be scoring brownie points, that's for sure... In fact if you have nothing good to say, don't bother posting polls...
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http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0572000.html
Oh and one last thing - you said elsewhere you have more respect for reverts than born Moslems. As a revert, I find this accutely embarrassing. How about stopping with the differentiations. We are all Moslem alhamdulilah.