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AnonymousPoster
08-19-2006, 09:13 AM
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I want to know how can u figure out truth? \

truth of religions?
truth in life?
about us ,about others?
ultimate reality?


all the pple are welcome to help me.

I would appreciate pple to guide me through religion or otherise.


thankyou very much
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DigitalStorm82
08-19-2006, 09:15 AM
Bro, Quran is truth...

Watch miracles of Quran.. or read a book about it..

www.harunyahya.com check out this site for the video.
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Najiullah
08-19-2006, 09:17 AM
thanks for the link bro
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lolwatever
08-19-2006, 09:17 AM
salamz

it's not hard, i think if someone has a sinchere heart and intention, with a bit of contemplation it's not very hard to deduce truth from falsehood.

There's essentially 2 outlooks, faith, and athiesm

Athiesm essentially comes down to living without a point in life, no goal, no constant set of morals (they're a function of time).

And then you have religion, each religion calls everyone to some sort of worship... if you read into the Quran, bible and torah, and see the outlook of each religion on the point of contention (jesus), it's not hard to deduce by intution which religion stands out as being the best.

besides that... look at all the signs that Allah put forward for us to contemplate about in the Quran, and see if any other religion (to date) offers any similar standard of code of conduct or way to success in both worlds.

all the best
salamz
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sameena
08-19-2006, 09:27 AM
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thanks

see,
to find truth ,is it like ............U have to leave ur family (for sometime )and make some kind of journey

will truth reveal itself or will it come to me on its own ?or is soul/heart matter?




thanks again
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Woodrow
08-19-2006, 09:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AnonymousGender
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I want to know how can u figure out truth? \

truth of religions?
truth in life?
about us ,about others?
ultimate reality?


all the pple are welcome to help me.

I would appreciate pple to guide me through religion or otherise.


thankyou very much
:w:
You have already been given 2 good answers so I can not add much. I would say we do not have to figure out truth. It surrounds us, all we need to do is elimanate what is false and that which remains is truth.
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bint_muhammed
08-19-2006, 10:44 AM
salam
search deep down inside yourself, and alongside study islam. be honest with yourself and truth will seem clear. good luck
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glo
08-19-2006, 10:59 AM
I agree with much that has been said.

The truth is out there!! :D

The problem is, the harder we chase it, the more confused we may become.
Perhaps you need to become still and listen within yourself. Sometimes that's how God reveals himself to us.

Rather than worry about finding the truth, be patient ... and expectant! :)

peace.
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- Qatada -
08-19-2006, 02:09 PM
You naturally may feel that there is a Creator and Higher Being who created the whole universe. Obviously this Creator did all this for a reason. What could that reason be?


The reason could have been so we could live for a while, earn all that wealth, then die - and that's it? Or what if this Creator created us so we would worship Him? So the Creator sends Messengers to mankind, telling and giving mankind a guide to differentiate between what is wrong and right.

Telling mankind that if you worship and obey your Creator, you'll be rewarded for it. But if you disobey your Creator and disagree that this Creator should be worshipped Alone, then the person will be punished for it. Why? because this is the reason He created us - so we would worship Him Alone.


Worshipping could involve helping the needy, giving a portion of ones wealth to the ones who are in need of it. To pray to your Creator so you can be helped when you need it. To fast, to follow the ways of the Messengers of Allaah (God.)

If the people do this - they will die, yet the ones who disbelieve that Allaah should be worshipped Alone, they too will die. But this world is only temporary. This world is like an exam hall, we're taking the exam right now and if we do good deeds to please Allaah, then we will be rewarded in paradise. But the ones who disbelieve and disobey the Messengers of the Creator - they will be punished.


The punishment for the ones who reject the commands of their Creator - they will be in hellfire, a punishment for what they did. This may seem harsh, but just think about how Hitler killed so much innocents? Would he just die the same way a person who's worshipped Allaah Almighty all their lives, helped the poor etc? Will they both just end up in the soil? The answer to that is No.


There will be a time when Allaah will command the earth to be destroyed. After everyone dies, they will be resurrected once again infront of Allaah. And Allaah Almighty will judge between what the people did in this world.


On that Day will men proceed in companies sorted out, to be shown the deeds that they (had done).

Then shall anyone who has done an atom's weight of good, see it!

And anyone who has done an atom's weight of evil, shall see it.


(Qur'an 99: 6-8)


All the actions we do in this world are recorded and will be a witness on the day of judgement. Whether the action is good or bad, we will be questioned about it.

The disbelievers who rejected that Allaah Almighty should be worshipped Alone, they will be punished in the hellfire, because that is the worst sin a person can ever commit.


Whereas for the believers, and the ones who do good deeds to please their Creator - they will be promised a paradise which will last forever.


Description of PARADISE...

Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem


Description of Paradise
by Imaam Ibn al-Qayyim, Rahimahullaah

Ibn al-Qayyim said, in regards to the description of the Paradise and
the delights that it contains:



"And if you ask about its ground and its soil, then it is of musk and saffron.

And if you ask about its roof, then it is the Throne of the Most Merciful.

And if you ask about its rocks, then they are pearls and jewels.

And if you ask about its buildings, then they are made of bricks of
gold and silver.

And if you ask about its trees, then it does not contain a single tree
except that its trunk is made of gold and silver.

And if you ask about its fruits, then they are softer than butter and
sweeter than honey.

And if you ask about its leaves, then they are softer than the softest cloth.

And if you ask about its rivers, then there are rivers of milk who's
taste does not change, and rivers of wine that is delicious to those
who drink it, and rivers of honey that is pure, and rivers of water
that is fresh.

And if you ask about their food, then it is fruits from whatever they
will choose, and the meat of whatever birds they desire.

And if you ask about their drink, then it is Tasneem, ginger, and Kaafoor.

And if you ask about their drinking cups, then they are crystal-clear
and made of gold and silver.

And if you ask about its shade, then a fast rider would ride in the
shade of one of its trees for a hundred years and not escape it.

And if you ask about its vastness, then the lowest of its people would
have within his kingdom and walls and palaces and gardens the distance
that would be travelled in a thousand years.

And if you ask about its tents and encampments, then one tent is like
a concealed pearl that is sixty miles long.

And if you ask about its towers, then they are rooms above rooms in
buildings that have rivers running underneath them.

And if you ask about how far it reaches into the sky, then look at the
shining star that is visible, as well as those that are far in the
heavens that the eyesight cannot possibly reach.

And if you ask about the clothing of its inhabitants, then they are of
silk and gold.

And if you ask about its beds, then its blankets are of the finest
silk laid out in the highest of its levels.

And if you ask about the faces of its inhabitants and their beauty,
then they are like the image of the Moon.

And if you ask about their age, then they are young ones of 33 years
in the image of Adam, the father of humanity.


And if you ask about what they will be hearing, then it is the singing
of their wives from among the Hoor al-'Ayn, and better than that are
the voices of the Angels and the Prophets, and better than that is the
Speech of the Lord of the Worlds.


And if you ask about their servants, then they are young boys of
everlasting youth who resemble scattered pearls.


And if you ask about their brides and wives, then they are young and
full-breasted and have had the liquid of youth flow through their
limbs; the Sun runs along the beauty of her face if she shows it,
light shines from between her teeth if she smiles; if you meet her
love, then say whatever you want regarding the joining of two lights;
he sees his face in the roundness of her cheek as if he is looking
into a polished mirror, and he sees the brightness from behind her
muscles and bones; if she were to be unleashed upon the World, she
would fill what is between the Heavens and the Earth with a beautiful
wind, and the mouths of the creation would glorifiy, praise, and
exclaim greatness, and everything between the East and the West would
be adorned for her, and every eye would be shut from everthing but
her, and the light of the Sun would be outshone just as the light of
the Sun outshines the light of the stars, and everyone on the face of
the Earth would believe in the Ever-Living, the One who Sustains and
Protects all the exists.


And the covering on her head is better than the World and all that is
in it, and she does not increase with age except in beauty; free from
an umbilical cord, childbirth and menses, and pure of mucous, saliva,
urine and other filthy things; her youth never fades, her clothing is
never worn out, no garment can be created that matches her beauty, and
no one who is with her can ever become bored; her attention is
restricted to her husband, so she desires none but him, just as his
attention is restricted to her so she is the sole object of his
desire, and he is with her in utmost safety and security, as none has
touched her before of either humans or Jinn.


And if you ask about the Day of Increase (in reward) and the visit of
the all-Mighty, all-Wise, and the sight of His Face - free from any
resemblance or likeness to anything - as you see the Sun in the middle
of the day and the full Moon on a cloudless night, then listen on the
day that the caller will call: 'O People of Paradise! Your Lord -
Blessed and Exalted - requests you to visit Him, so come to visit
Him!' So they will say: 'We hear and obey!'


Until, when they finally reach the wide valley where they will all
meet - and none of them will turn down the request of the caller - the
Lord - Blessed and Exalted - will order His Chair to be brought there.
Then, pulpits of light will emerge, as well as pulpits of pearls,
gemstone, gold, and silver. The lowest of them in rank will sit on
sheets of musk, and will not see what those who are on the chairs
above them are given. When they are comfortable where they are sitting
and are secure in their places, and the caller calls: 'O People of
Paradise! You have an appointment with Allaah in which He wishes to
reward you!' So they will say: 'And what is that reward? Has He not
already made our faces bright, made our scales heavy, entered us into
Paradise, and pushed us away from the Fire?'


And when they are like that, all of a sudden a light shines that
encompasses all of Paradise. So, they raise their heads, and, behold:
the Compeller - Exalted is He, and Holy are His Names - has come to
them from above them and majestified them and said: 'O People of
Paradise! Peace be upon you!' So, this greeting will not be responded
to with anything better than: 'O Allaah! You are Peace, and from You
is Peace! Blessed are You, O possessor of Majesty and Honor!' So the
Lord - Blessed and Exalted - will laugh to them and say: 'O People of
Paradise! Where are those who used to obey Me without having ever seen
Me? This is the Day of Increase!'

So, they will all give the same response: 'We are pleased, so be
pleased with us!' So, He will say: 'O People of Paradise! If I were
not pleased with you, I would not have made you inhabitants of My
Paradise! So, ask of Me!' So, they will all give the same response:
'Show us your Face so that we may look at it!' So, the Lord - Mighty
and Majestic - will remove his covering and will majestify them and
will cover them with His Light, which, if Allaah - the Exalted - had
not Willed not to burn them, would have burned them.

And there will not remain a single person in this gathering except
that his Lord - the Exalted - will speak to him and say: 'Do you
remember the day that you did this and that?' and He will remind him
of some of his bad deeds in the Worldy life, so he will say: 'O Lord!
Will you not forgive me?' So, He will say: 'Of course! You have not
reached this position of yours (in Paradise) except by my
forgiveness.'

So, how sweet is this speech to the ears, and how cooled are the
righteous eyes by the glance at His Noble Face in the Afterlife...

{Some faces that Day will be shining and radiant, looking at their Lord...} (al-Qiyaamah:22-3)




[from the amazing and beautiful book Haadi al-Arwaah ilaa Bilaad
il-Afraah by Ibn al-Qayyim, pg. 193]




"And those who believe and do righteous good deeds, to them We shall surely give lofty dwellings in Paradise, underneath which rivers flow, to live therein forever. Excellent is the reward of the workers, those who are patient and put their trust [only] in their 'Rabb' (Allah)."(Qur'an 29: 58-59)


You should also check out:

www.beconvinced.com


The stairway to Paradise: Part one
http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/n...service_id=730



If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. :)


Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.
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Eric H
08-20-2006, 07:54 PM
Greetings in peace AnonymousGender;

Here is a story I like about searching for truth, sadly I do not have a reference of were it came from. It’s purpose at the time was to highlight the need for a greater interfaith understanding of how we could deal with truth.

A student recounts his first meeting with a young professor. The thing I remember the most is the young professor who showed up one morning to teach us one of the subjects. As he came in, he went straight to the board without any introduction and proceeded to draw a large square. Then he cut it up several times vertically and horizontally, turned to the class and asked, as if challenging us, “How many squares do you see?” Out of the twenty young managers in the class he got around a dozen different answers. Then, without any further comment he proceeded to erase the board and start the lecture; but we stopped him with the question “What is the right answer?” He turned to us and said: “You all had the right answer. I asked how many squares do you see, not how many are there. You see what you see, regardless what may be there. That is your perception; your challenge is that others may always see a different number of squares; you have to find a way to let them see what you see.”

I feel there is one more lesson the professor could have ended with, and that is, how are you going to get on with others who perceive differently to yourself?

My journey and search for truth is through Christianity, but I am being drawn more towards a path of seeking interfaith understanding, tolerance and friendship. There is one God and he created each and every one of us, we need to find ways to journey in faith together through diversity.

In the spirit of seeking one God.

Eric
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mlsh27
08-20-2006, 07:57 PM
You can't find truth in this world about religion, i.e. the existence of God swt or heaven, as we know truth to be. It comes down to faith and what you believe to be the most truthful.
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Curaezipirid
08-20-2006, 08:03 PM
But stop trying upon figuring
Since that only leads to biggering
The account of your end deeds
So stick with these:

A Prayer form like the Lord's Prayer Jesus gave us adapted for Islam by replacing Our Father with Allah

The Kalama Sutra

and my new signature (as soon as it's in place)

The kalama Sutra conditions the body's physical responses not to believe unless the Soul can not disbelieve by facts to the evidence of the carnal conscious mind. The original may be best kept in Tibetean. It translates approximately like this:
Do not believe simply because everybody does: Do not believe because you are instructed to: Do not believe because your teachers and masters believe: Do not believe because you have experienced wonders: But when belief finds reason, live up to it
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madaashaa
08-25-2006, 09:20 PM
Quran is the truth....everything in the quran is the truth and the ultimate truth!
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Ummu Sufyaan
08-26-2006, 08:06 AM
easy, you want truth? in life and religion. open the quran.
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Abdul Fattah
08-28-2006, 06:14 PM
The real truth Is as easy as it is dificult.
The easy part: you can find it reflected everywhere, if you are sincear in looking for guidance, insha allah (=God willing) you will be shown the true path wherever you look.
The hard part: you have to be able to accept it. How radical are you prepared to be?
Sorry, I should'nt use the word radical, it has such a negative connotation. But seriously, read the qur'an you'd be surprised ;)

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
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