Islamic swim suit

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

check this out..

[PIE]Turk takes Islam-inspired swimwear to pious bathers
Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:32am ET

By Emma Ross-Thomas

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - An unusual type of swimwear is standing out on Turkish beaches this summer -- Islam-inspired swimsuits -- which buck the trend of the past 100 years for swimsuits to get smaller.

Turkish businessman Mehmet Sahin has designed what he says is the world's first Islam-inspired swimsuit and sells head-to-ankle bathing gear to devout well-heeled Muslims, including the wives of Turkey's leading politicians.

"We are the preferred firm of the conservative politicians' wives," he told Reuters in an interview, referring to members of the ruling AK Party, which has its roots in political Islam and came to power in 2002.


It is still a small market, but Sahin's growing clientele is another sign of the rising profile of Islam in traditionally secular Turkey.

His brightly-colored women's swimming costumes look like shiny track-suits with stretchy hoods, while the racier models are like catsuits with a separate overall to cover the curves.

These costumes are a throwback to the type of swimwear worn before Australian swimmer Annette Kellerman invented and wore the first one piece swimsuit in 1906. She was arrested in the United States in 1907 for wearing the one piece suit that showed her arms, legs and neck.

SWIMSUITS FOR STUDENTS

Sahin designed his first swimsuit -- for men -- while at university in Istanbul studying law. He was fed up with using cut-off trousers and pyjamas to go swimming. Soon he was selling swimsuits to other students

"The idea came as a solution to our own difficulties," he said. "Not only in Turkey, but in the whole world, there was no such thing. You could say we were the first."

Sahin drew up the first sketches for the crinkly catsuits -- which sell for as much as 140 lira ($97) -- but the former lawyer now employs two full-time designers in his Istanbul-based firm, Hasema, which has become a benchmark brand in Turkey.

He sold 40,000 swimsuits last year and expects to beat that with 50,000 this year.

"Now when you say swimsuit what do we understand? Bikinis or small trunks ... Perhaps in 10 or 15 years time when you say swimsuit, Hasemas will also come to mind," he said.


Sahin acknowledges this is a niche market, but he still sees growth potential in Muslim Turkey, where most women wear headscarves although the secular republic's laws ban their use in public buildings such as at universities and parliament.

The current AK Party government is trying to overturn restrictions on headscarves and since it swept to power in 2002 headscarved women have become more high-profile, but it faces stiff opposition from pro-secular Turks.

Bikinis are a common sight on Turkish beaches and many Turks are horrified by Islamic bathing suits.

As Turks get richer in a growing economy, helped by the prospect of European Union membership, there is more demand for holidays -- and swimsuits.

But Sahin is also looking abroad and already sells wholesale to the United States, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Germany and plans a fashion show in Cairo next year.

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So this is a great step,we are creating thing that applies to what we enjoy but not breaking Islamic values.

Inshallah,i think in the future we will see proper clthing for mena dn women in sports too..designed by muslim

[syilla]

:sl:

wow...any pictures of it.. :rolleyes:

is the swimsuit will open out when it goes into the water?

:w:

[brainiac]

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[catmando]

I think it's a great idea. It will give women a chance to have fun at the beach without being harassed by the Islamic Morality Police.

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[~Stranger~]

i found this




not very islamic dare i to say!!!

Islamic Morality Police?? in turkey?? pfft

[syilla]

lol...is not islamic...

unless they have their own...private beach...or swimming pool...

[Malaikah]

I think it's a great idea. It will give women a chance to have fun at the beach without being harassed by the Islamic Morality Police.

No, dont you mean, more importantly, it will give women the chance to have fun at the beach without being harassed by the eyes of perverted men who dont know how to lower their gaze?? rather than the morality police?

For your information, we dress the way we do with PRIDE! not becuase of what others think of us, or because of some 'morality police', but becuase of what God told us to do.

And if there are people out there who are outgoing in reminding women to dress properly then good on them.

not very islamic dare i to say!!!

:sl:

i dont think so either, its not a very good idea, as soon as it gets wet it will probably start to stick to the body, unless they designed not to do that. i certainly wouldnt wear that, especially not at the beach. ^o)

[~Stranger~]

its not a very good idea, as soon as it gets wet it will probably start to stick to the body, unless they designed not to do that. i certainly wouldnt wear that, especially not at the beach.

unless they have their own...private beach...or swimming pool...

:happy: :thumbs_up

[S_87]

I think it's a great idea. It will give women a chance to have fun at the beach without being harassed by the Islamic Morality Police.

its actually a case of the women buying it themselves :rolleyes:



the picture posted seems to be lycra. not the best coming out of water :hiding:

loose t shirt and trousers is much better imho

[afriend]

;D :lol:

This is ridiculous ;D

[Vaseline]

There's something similar down here by a company called Ahiida and they also specialise in sportswear. I haven't bought any of the products but my cousins have and they said it's good. But still, there comes in the discussion of how it would look once they've swum.

[Al-Zaara]

Islamic Morality Police?? in turkey?? pfft

Maybe a bit off topic, but what do you mean by that?
That in Turkey they're not Islamic and have no Islamic Moral? :?

Anyways, I'm not sure about those swimsuits... It's much better to have a place only for women to swim and so on. Like they have in Turkey, for example. :)

:w:

[amirah_87]

As salaamu alaykum,

That Is ridiculous Wal'3iyuudhu Billah, what Is the Ummah coming to!! :heated:

May Allah guide them InshAllah!!

[Mawaddah]

Ahahahaha........that is so ridiculous ;D ;D

Two words :

NOT ISLAMIC

:)

[~Stranger~]

im glad im not the only one who thinks its unislamic........... alhamdulillah theres still good in this ummah and ppl arent compromising their religion for others :)

theres still hope for us!!

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

looooooooolll.. datz hilarious.. hwz dat islamic ^o) soo stupid man.. :p

[Tania]

I found this:
Is decent, i think:)

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

not very clear but from wot i can c.. hw u gona swim in dat..? ^o) :?

[Tania]

I think is not heavy and for sure is not tight on the body. Even in the private beach the women should have something for them in which to feel comfortable. And it seems this turkish designer made a good swim suit.Onlt the materials to be good.

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I dont see the point of trying to make an Islamic swimsuit. Its a good try but it wont help. I wear a huge t shirt for goodness sake and it still sticks to me. So how will that help??...

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

loool :p muslims wearin a swimsuit (islamic ^o) or not) dnt make a diference.. dnt botha juz go in ur normal jilbaba etc :p and leave da swimsuit wen u hav an all sisters party in ur pool at ur bak garden :p

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

true! lol. Jus make sure no one is peaking at ya..>.<

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

lol hope not :uhwhat:

[catmando]

What about Muslim swim teams? Can they wear stuff like that? And how about female track athletes, what can they wear?

[- Qatada -]

What about Muslim swim teams? Can they wear stuff like that? And how about female track athletes, what can they wear?

I don't think muslims even need to participate in stuff like that. Like even men have to cover themselves from navel to the knees, so the shorts some men wear might not even be permissible.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Thats true...their shorts r "above" the knees..

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I would rather be looked at and like as a person and for my mind. Its better than people looking at u like a piece of meat and building up images in their mind about me.

[~Stranger~]

I would rather be looked at and like as a person and for my mind. Its better than people looking at u like a piece of meat and building up images in their mind about me.

well said sis

I love looking at girls in bikinis and thongs but I don't attack them.

would u like someone looking at ur wife wearing bikini (or ur mum or sis)? will u look the same way at a woman wearing niqab/islamic hijab?

on a sec thought, plz dont answer the question

i was watching oprah a while ago and her guest said clearly, men think sexually, they only think of that

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Of course a guy would like that. They get to look at somethin desireable to them..for free basically!

[S_87]

I love looking at girls in bikinis and thongs but I don't attack them

well i feel sorry for such a person who allows perves to have some cheap thrill. because respect goes down zero for then them

[KAding]

For your information, we dress the way we do with PRIDE! not becuase of what others think of us, or because of some 'morality police', but becuase of what God told us to do.

No doubt many do. But in Islamic countries where dressing modestly and headscarves are mandatory there are many who do it because they are forced too, either by the family or by the state.

I say give women a choice. If they want to wear it, they should. If they don't, they shouldn't.

[- Qatada -]

No doubt many do. But in Islamic countries where dressing modestly and headscarves are mandatory there are many who do it because they are forced too, either by the family or by the state.

I say give women a choice. If they want to wear it, they should. If they don't, they shouldn't.

Whereas on the other side of the scale, there are women who would love to wear the islamic headscarves, jilbaabs and dress modestly - but they are forced by the government to remove them. This is getting common in many countries i.e. France etc.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

[Zulkiflim]

Salaam,

i am unsure if the pictures posted is the garment,,i found the article but not the garment.

[S_87]

:sl: ^^ the site of the company in the article has that same garment

[UmmSqueakster]

:sl:

This company makes several different kinds of swimsuits. Maybe some of the others would be considered more "islamic" for those who didn't like the one posted previously.

I really like their tracksuit.

[sameer]

hmm i noticed in the site stated above....the swim suits for men leave the knees uncovered.

[UmmSqueakster]

hmm i noticed in the site stated above....the swim suits for men leave the knees uncovered.

Really? Many of the ones here seem to me to have the knees covered.

[sameer]

Really? Many of the ones here seem to me to have the knees covered.

the pics showing the sisters clothing had a guy with her whose knees were uncovered.
https://shop.hasema.com/default.asp?...rundetay&id=40

and theres one with the sister frolicking in the water with a guy who is in short pants.
Check back in the english version of the site and u would see.

[UmmSqueakster]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that some of the swimsuits leave the knees uncovered? One would just have to be sure to order a certain length.

[sameer]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that some of the swimsuits leave the knees uncovered? One would just have to be sure to order a certain length.

yeah but i got the impression that we were talking about halal beach wear?

nevermind.

[KAding]

Whereas on the other side of the scale, there are women who would love to wear the islamic headscarves, jilbaabs and dress modestly - but they are forced by the government to remove them. This is getting common in many countries i.e. France etc.

I absolutely agree. I also find it outragous, it an attack on personal liberty and freedom of religion. Mind you, I think the case is a bit more complex regarding children, but for adults noone should be allowed to say whether they should or shouldn't wear a headscarve.

[- Qatada -]

Hi kading.


I'm happy you agree, but regarding the children - you have to realise that parent's do make their children wear what they feel is best for their child. i.e. if a woman loved to wear fashionable clothes, she would probably buy gucci or some brand name for her own child, just to make that child look fashionable too. So from that, we realise that the parent chose what she wanted for her daughter, and later on that child may follow that example.


The same can be said about islam, the mother may feel that her child should dress up modestly from a young age, because when the child does this - they will have a unique identity and as the child grows up - she will realise that. The child will feel proud of their faith and like sister cheese said earlier - they will wear it in pride.

However, if the government was to ban this off children too, then the child wouldn't even have that identity, and they would fall prey to what the society around them is doing. Why shouldn't this child have the right to be brought up to how the parent wants, if any other parent can bring their child up to how they want?



Peace.

[adeeb]

No doubt many do. But in Islamic countries where dressing modestly and headscarves are mandatory there are many who do it because they are forced too, either by the family or by the state.

I say give women a choice. If they want to wear it, they should. If they don't, they shouldn't.

in think we have an obligation to the syariah. the head scarf is an obligation for women but man, and country have an obligation to make this syariah happen by law.

this syariah will disappear when women don't wanna wear hijab anymore. so this our duty (country) to make this syariah exist because this is what God tell us to do.

[Zulkiflim]

in think we have an obligation to the syariah. the head scarf is an obligation for women but man, and country have an obligation to make this syariah happen by law.

this syariah will disappear when women don't wanna wear hijab anymore. so this our duty (country) to make this syariah exist because this is what God tell us to do.

Salaam,

BEfore the collective can be heard the individual have to make th choice first and foremost.

[~Stranger~]

yes and here comes the importance of islamic education in the family.

my mum says she trusts us even if were in paris and this is how muslim should be

[nishom]

ISLAMIC CONDITIONS PERTAINING TO WOMEN'S DRESS:

Hijab is a word that indicates not just the headscarf but clothing in its entirety which meets the following conditions :

1. Clothing must cover the entire body, only the hands and face may remain visible (According to some Fiqh Schools) .

2. The material must not be so thin that one can see through it.

3. The clothing must hang loose so that the shape / form of the body is not apparent.

4. The female clothing must not resemble the man's clothing.

5. The design of the clothing must not resemble the clothing of the non believing women.

6. The design must not consist of bold designs which attract attention.

7. Clothing should not be worn for the sole purpose of gaining reputation or increasing one's status in society.


Allah has stated in the Quran that women must guard their modesty.

" Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof. " [Quran : 24.31]

" Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ; that will make for greater purity for them, and God is well acquainted with all they do. " [Quran : 24.30]

The reason for this strictness is so that the woman is protected from the lustful gaze of men. She should not attract attention to herself in any way. It is permissible for a man to catch the eye of a woman , however it is haram (unlawful) for a man to look twice as this encourages lustful thoughts.

Islam protects the woman. It is for this reason that Allah gave these laws. In today's society womankind is being exploited, female sexuality is being openly used in advertising, mainly to attract the desires of men and therefore sell the product. Is the woman really free in today's society ? The answer is obviously no, the constant bombardment by the media as to how the ideal woman should look and dress testifies to this.

Islam liberated woman over 1400 years ago. Is it better to dress according to man or God ?

[sameer]

ISLAMIC CONDITIONS PERTAINING TO WOMEN'S DRESS:

Hijab is a word that indicates not just the headscarf but clothing in its entirety which meets the following conditions :

1. Clothing must cover the entire body, only the hands and face may remain visible (According to some Fiqh Schools) .

2. The material must not be so thin that one can see through it.

3. The clothing must hang loose so that the shape / form of the body is not apparent.

4. The female clothing must not resemble the man's clothing.

5. The design of the clothing must not resemble the clothing of the non believing women.

6. The design must not consist of bold designs which attract attention.

7. Clothing should not be worn for the sole purpose of gaining reputation or increasing one's status in society.


Allah has stated in the Quran that women must guard their modesty.

" Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof. " [Quran : 24.31]

" Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ; that will make for greater purity for them, and God is well acquainted with all they do. " [Quran : 24.30]

The reason for this strictness is so that the woman is protected from the lustful gaze of men. She should not attract attention to herself in any way. It is permissible for a man to catch the eye of a woman , however it is haram (unlawful) for a man to look twice as this encourages lustful thoughts.

Islam protects the woman. It is for this reason that Allah gave these laws. In today's society womankind is being exploited, female sexuality is being openly used in advertising, mainly to attract the desires of men and therefore sell the product. Is the woman really free in today's society ? The answer is obviously no, the constant bombardment by the media as to how the ideal woman should look and dress testifies to this.

Islam liberated woman over 1400 years ago. Is it better to dress according to man or God ?

Hijab is also a protection for men against themselves. We all know men are weak.:) when it comes to the oppostie sex.
Also, the Hijab is more than a dress, but it is also a mindset in terms of being modest. Its no use being in hijab and the girl is acting in a scandalous manner to draw attention to herself.

[Kidman]

No doubt many do. But in Islamic countries where dressing modestly and headscarves are mandatory there are many who do it because they are forced too, either by the family or by the state.

I say give women a choice. If they want to wear it, they should. If they don't, they shouldn't.

Kading, it's also out of respect for the majority there. Just like if you go to a Mosque in a free state, you will see everyone wearing Hijab, even if they don't wear it when they leave the mosque. They wear this out of respect for the people who are at that place of worship for God, and the people there wont have to worry about seeing somebody in non-modest clothing.

Same in Muslim countries, they want their citizens, which the majority are Muslims, to feel confortable to go out and about without worrying about seeing some lady half-dressed.

Hope this helps you to understand,

Kidman

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:salamext:

3. The clothing must hang loose so that the shape / form of the body is not apparent.

Like the swimsuit on the first page... but hey, women want to swim too!

[Cabdullahi]

:salamext:



Like the swimsuit on the first page... but hey, women want to swim too!

No1 prevented women from swimming,ppl should swim young and old,male and female its good exercise

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:salamext:

Yeh but we cant... coz its mixed everywhere lol

[Cognescenti]

Put a couple of fins on her head and she could be the Creature From the Black Lagoon

[Cabdullahi]

:salamext:

Yeh but we cant... coz its mixed everywhere lol

As long as u wer the islamic swimsuit then its okay you can go swim anywhere although u might wanna avoid local swimming baths cus the ppl there might stare abit and say what is she doing with a diving suit in a small swimming pool

[Kidman]

My friend has one of these swimsuits and she says it fits loosely, and it feels really nice to the skin. Like it doesn't weigh you down or anything. She said the manufacturers did a great job with this product and really promoted it (no, she doesn't work with them, lol). The only backdrop is that it's not something normal people will wear, but what hijabi wears normal clothing anyways??

[S_87]

:salamext:

Yeh but we cant... coz its mixed everywhere lol

:sl:

everywhere is not mixed, there are some pools that offer female only sessions and loads of beaches that are quiet

[dream gurl]

wll i think depending on hw she dress cuz 'we wnt to swim' nd its gud for us to learn it..and lik jus wear loose shirt nd a small scarf nd swim..nting wrong wid dat..cus u in da water so why pay attention..