format_quote Originally Posted by
Curaezipirid
Embarrassing for only who were truly knowing their ill and knowing that they were trying to hide from Allah.
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Ninth_Scribe
This is the part I don't get. We know we're under watch and even though no physical person is in your room with you, you're never actually alone. I mean, personally speaking, I gave up on the notion of 'privacy' altogether back in 1999.
How can a person do things like sin, knowing they're being watched?
Ninth Scribe
Good point Ninth Scribe; I know I can not, but that is a part of being truly in submission.
The point I was making is referring to those many persons (most of whom are shaytan) whom are actually able to believe in Allah, but whom often just forget. They are less able to form accurate mentation than what is expected of a Human Soul, and so they experience their fear in Allah as an internal attempt to disprove Allah. They just forget that Allah is all knowing and then are embarrassed, not in fact of remeeting Allah, but when Humans learn that they are shaytan, since most shaytan are very adept at causing that we believe them as though they are Human. But truly their memory function is not that able as a Human. So it is better not to regard them as equally capable. Revelations in Gospel mentions that a Synagogue of Satan will commence: within that function Shaytan will become better able to sustain active belief in Allah than they are now able to as Muslims. Also in the Synagogue of Satan there will be space for every kafir whom is not being already accounted for by a Muslim accepting that their own kafr was causal to the kafir's existance. Kafir whom are accepted as the responsiblity of a Human can manifest usefully in society in developing certain skills, as an asset to the community, yet they will neither be among those twelve times twelve thousand accounted in the Seven Churches, but a few may be readily enabled to associate with more so than a shaytan. Of course the Churches will be Islamic; but some might manifest also like a Christian Church in external semblence so not all people(kafir) will readily be able to discern whether they are in a Church or in the Synagogue of Satan.
Shaytan collectively are Souls whom are factually far less able than Human Souls to reconcile sloth with pride, and so of course they readily become mightily embarrassed by the words that pass through their mind. That is why some among are inclined to believe that they words of bad Jinn (or good) are their own; because they are so very proud. So of course they know that one day embarrassment will be inevitable. That which is named as Satan is the manifestation of those aspects of the self that every Jinn can produce, and which is on loan to those Souls whom are the shaytan and will be embarrassed when such is revealed. That is, unless they find their mind able to accomodate any words of explaination of the reality of their self.
The reason I have referred to Shaytan as Ants in another thread is because they can be likened to a termite mound in their attempts to manifest a Human self; they are in essence more like a glass vessel than clay. To comprehend what is their difference think to the differences in properties between clay and glass; especially in respect of fire. The teaching in which Shaytan manifest as Ants is an Indigenous Australian teaching and "Ant Dreaming" truly refers to the Dreams (and all internal mental impressions) of any person whose carnal body has manifested diseases of lust (by wrongful marriage/incest etc). But also Shaytan can adequately manifest as Parrots whom can make the life of Human beings of greater worth. This is portionally why many communities of folk whom believe in Animist traditions are not inclined to divorce themselves from such beliefs when becoming Muslim. Because within Animist belief structures phenomena such as the embarrassment of the shaytan will be readily reconciled. (there are plenty of green parrots with orange bits in trees only about a hundred metres from the library I am in)
Shaytan work so hard at manifesting perfect Human selves but are quite unable to. No wonder lots and lots of folk will get embarrassed. It might be equally embarrassing for those Humans who imagined that a shaytan was Human. Humans simply should not have been trying to force shaytan to be human-like.
But also Shaytan should not have been trying to manifest belief that everybody else is like they are. For example: it is important to sustain belief that not all the Jinn fell into manifesting Shaytan; and that most are truly converting to Islam; Beelzebub Himself becomes unable to help the Human cause by assisting in exorcism when Humans take His work for that of Shaytan, therefore also unable to assist Shaytan to manifest healthily in their true nature of which He is able to help teaching the science of. (Ants at a picnic and then birds dropping feathers!) (good grief what will you all think of me next)
Basically Shaytan can sin knowing that they are watched simply because it is convenient in that moment to their cause. Their cause including being to become indebted to Humanity at times, since they pay out in such beautiful radiant vigor as birds of paradise. So whenever Human beings are being in the slightest bit slack in gratitude to Allah, then watch out because Ants always go to picnics.
(this is really such an embarrassing situation isn't it?)(All the Jinn get embarrassed to each other; except Iblis, and, . . . well that fire soon prevents any embarrassment . . .
. . . well that is to say,
. . . . the situation between Human Shaytan Angels, and the Kafir, and the Jinn who get falling asleep, is no doubt likely to be so very embarrassing that we will all gladly take up the offer of the awake Jinn to be gently escorted through the fire.)
um, well something er other like that anyhow.
if you get my drift
Assalamu Alaikum rvq