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khalid zaheer
09-13-2006, 08:03 AM
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Being a Man, we have nature? If yes then what kind of nature Man has?

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Woodrow
09-13-2006, 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by khalid zaheer
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Being a Man, we have nature? If yes then what kind of nature Man has?

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Keep in mind the word Nature has several meanings:






Synonyms

cosmos
creation
macrocosm
universe
world
breed
cast
description
feather
ilk
kind
lot
manner
mold
order
sort
species
stamp
stripe
type
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variety
character
complexion
disposition
makeup
personality
being
essence
essentiality
quintessence
substance
texture
complexion
disposition
humor
temper
temperament

na·ture (nā'chər)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Middle English, essential properties of a thing, from Old French, from Latin nātūra, from nātus past participle of nāscī, to be born.]

noun

The material world and its phenomena.

The forces and processes that produce and control all the phenomena of the material world: the laws of nature.

The world of living things and the outdoors: the beauties of nature.

A primitive state of existence, untouched and uninfluenced by civilization or artificiality: couldn't tolerate city life anymore and went back to nature.

Theology Humankind's natural state as distinguished from the state of grace.
A kind or sort: confidences of a personal nature.

The essential characteristics and qualities of a person or thing: “She was only strong and sweet and in her nature when she was really deep in trouble” (Gertrude Stein)

The fundamental character or disposition of a person; temperament: “Strange natures made a brotherhood of ill” (Percy Bysshe Shelley)

The natural or real aspect of a person, place, or thing. See synonyms at disposition

The processes and functions of the body.


I think for us Humans when we ask the question it usually is asking about:

The natural or real aspect of a person, place, or thing.
I believe that is best answered as it depends on the individual. Perhaps we are all born with the same nature, but it becomes very individualised at an early age. The nature of some people is to be caring and giving. Other people are cruel and miserly. Some people's nature is to be sad, while others are always happy. I believe we can talk about the nature of an individual, but there is no set nature that fits all people, if we use that definition.
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lolwatever
09-13-2006, 08:31 AM
and the word set allegedly has even more meanings :offended:

neway.. yeh pls xplain wat u mean by nature
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IbnAbdulHakim
09-13-2006, 09:05 AM
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perhaps and forgive me if im speakin without knowledge but just perhaps mans nature is emotions and acting on desires...

Wallahu Allam its A massive question, but main point is that we shouldnt be actin on our desires no matter what our nature is. Its all bout strivin in the path of Allah swt.

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09-13-2006, 09:08 AM
LOL Woodrow that longgggggggggggggggg list is deffo gettin reps! Joka!
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syilla
09-13-2006, 09:14 AM
do you mean by fitrah?
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nishom
09-13-2006, 09:16 AM
The Creation

In Islam, the world as man knows it, begins and ends with Allah. Unlike Christianity and Judaism, the creation process is not described in detail, but referred to as a starting point for Allah’s power. The creation story in Islam is described in the Qur’an as the creation of the universe by Allah’s will with a single command:

“Be!” Several verses in the Qur’an highlight Allah’s power of creation: [Creator of the heavens and the earth from nothingness, He has only to say when He wills a thing: “Be,” and it is] (Al-Baqarah 2:117) and, [That is how God creates what He wills, when He decrees a thing, He says “Be,” and it is] (Aal `Imran 3:47).

Man’s relationship with nature materialises in Islamic living in several ways, the most significant and obvious being death

In this manner, Allah created the heavens and the earth, the sun and the moon, and the rest of the universe. He created the plants and the animals, and placed them on Earth, and He decreed upon them the laws by which the natural order of all creation functions. The universe is an independent entity, it exists according to those laws and does not require (divine) intervention, yet it cannot “warrant for its own existence and it cannot explain itself” (Rahman).

In Islam, this in itself is considered conclusive proof of Allah’s existence. The laws placed by Allah take into account all natural phenomena and provide further proof for Allah’s greatness, which the Qur’an describes in detail. [He ushers in the dawn, and made the night for rest, the sun and moon a computation. Such is the measure appointed by Him, the Omnipotent and All-Wise] (Al-An`am 6:96). Natural law, as decreed by Allah, “reflects and issues from the order that exists in the Divine Realm” (Nasr) where Allah exists.

Mankind & Nature

Islam invites man to discover the laws of nature and the ways in which the universe exists.

Man was created from clay, and is thus part of nature, not separate from it. This relationship with nature materialises in Islamic living in several ways, the most significant and obvious being death. Muslim burials require the corpse to be washed, have all items removed, and placed in the ground within three days—for an easier return to the earth whence it came.

Within Allah’s universe, man was given a special place. In Islamic teachings, in contrast to those of Christianity, man was not made in God’s image. Rather, Allah distinguished man from His other creations by breathing His own spirit into man. This preferential treatment of God’s creation gave man two privileges not made available to the rest of creation: (1) freedom of choice and (2) specialised knowledge or “creative knowledge” (Rahman).

Freedom of choice allows man the ability to make the decision whether or not to worship Allah and follow His will. The universe, as described before, is governed by the laws decreed for it by Allah, and has, therefore, been in submission to Allah since its creation. Man, however, was given the ability to think, rationalize, and argue the presence of a creator, and then decide whether to submit to Him or not.


An Open Invitation to Knowledge and Learning

Creative knowledge was first displayed—according to the teachings of Islam—when, after the angels questioned Allah as to why he had created man in the form of Adam, Allah challenged the angels and Adam to name objects. The angels were unable to bestow names upon things, whereas Adam could, giving him superiority over those that he had named and demonstrating his Creator’s power.

Islam is a natural religion.

As part of man’s privilege, Islam, through the Qur’an, invites man to discover the laws of nature and the ways in which the universe exists. There is no threat to Allah’s supremacy in this way, because if Allah wills something to remain a mystery (such as Himself) then man has no possible way of discovering whatever Allah chooses to remain hidden. On the contrary, when man sees for himself the extent to which the universe has been meticulously planned and provided for, Allah’s infinite wisdom becomes apparent. Man is invited to question, discover, explore, and manipulate the world around him and use it for his benefit.

There are three types of learning encouraged in Islam, all of which will (or should) inevitably lead to acknowledgement and recognition of Allah’s power. These are: (1) the discovery of nature, its laws, and how it can be used for the benefit of mankind; (2) the exploration of the history and the geography of the physical world and its peoples; and (3) knowledge of oneself (Rahman).

This encouragement to learn and discover has led to a proliferation of Arab scholars in the fields of the natural sciences and mathematics. In Islamic philosophy, one must always seek knowledge, both within and without, as knowledge illuminates the path on which one must travel. Ignorance is an unfavourable state of being, as the process pf acknowledging the existence and power of Allah is one of enlightenment through knowing.

“Nature exists for man to exploit for his own ends, while the end of man himself is nothing else but to serve God, to be grateful to him, and to worship him alone” (Rahman). Islam suggests that nature was created by Allah specifically for mankind’s use and so must be recognised and respected as a gift for which man must be grateful. There are three reasons for creation: (1) “to serve as a collection of signs, or ayat, of the power and goodness of Allah”; (2) “to serve Allah and to be submissive to God’s will”; and (3) “for the use of humans” (Timm).

Natural law in Islam is based on the laws Allah created for nature, which as mentioned earlier, reflected the laws of Allah’s divine realm. Man is expected to discover Allah’s will and to follow it, because “Islam suggests that discovering the truth, learning the truth, and believing in the truth are all possible”

Allah created the universe, bestowed human beings with a privileged position within it, and left the world to function under the laws He had decreed for it. Allah observes how people treat the bounty He has given them, and the universe is allowed to exist, with little intervention, for a certain length of time. At the end of this time, following portents of the end of the world as we know it, mankind is brought in front of Allah for Judgment Day. Islam’s eschatology places Allah’s role as mankind’s judge as the progression from His role as mankind’s Creator, and man will be punished or rewarded for his deeds in Allah’s universe.

Islam is a natural religion, in that its teachings advocate the utilisation of nature for man’s benefit, along with the preservation of the universe that Allah has placed in mankind’s safekeeping.
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IbnAbdulHakim
09-13-2006, 09:23 AM
Originally Posted by syilla
do you mean by fitrah?
:salamext:

fitrah = "natural disposition" so ye im gessin its pretty much the same thing...

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khalid zaheer
09-14-2006, 11:11 AM
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thanks to all of you for reply. Nature is a thing about it is said that "it can naver be changed", like sun. Sun is a natural Phenomena and has its specific nature that it rises in the east and down to west. Its the nature of sun that can never be changed.

My question was "is there any thing in Man that can naver be changed"?

And reason to asked this question is the sentece "this is his or her nature and he or she is bound or compelled to act like".

Along with "is there any thing which is common in every person naturally"?

regards
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Muezzin
09-14-2006, 11:22 AM
A general survival instinct, procreation and territorial attitudes are three of man's big 'natural tendencies'. They're interconnected too, if you think about it. Humans also tend to be social, 'pack animals' if you will.

The above are behavioural factors. Physically, all humans (save for ones exhibiting mutations of some sort) have facial features, four limbs etc. They are also similar in that they all have DNA and the same amount of base pairs - but they do not necessarily have exactly the same DNA, obviously.
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lolwatever
09-14-2006, 11:27 AM
My question was "is there any thing in Man that can naver be changed"?
lots of things.. need2go do T bizness, sleep, wake up... die n all that..


And reason to asked this question is the sentece "this is his or her nature and he or she is bound or compelled to act like".
checkout this thread http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...hlight=destiny for a detailed discussion :D

Along with "is there any thing which is common in every person naturally"?
Fitrah.. including tendency to look for something to use as a role model, something to worship, initially Allah and then his desires and shaytan can take the most of him if he decides to succumb 2 them...

checkout the destiny thread... pretty neat

slamz :D
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khalid zaheer
09-18-2006, 09:03 AM
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A general survival instinct, procreation and territorial attitudes are three of man's big 'natural tendencies'. They're interconnected too,
This is a complicated sentence. as the matter of general instinct then I think every one differes in this matter, procreation is certainly a natural process and every one go through, as the matter of territorial attitude then I think these are also differes in every one. And which way these are interconnected I could not understand. If you can explain it some easy way I would be thank ful to you.
Physically, all humans (save for ones exhibiting mutations of some sort) have facial features, four limbs etc.
Certainly have facial feature and limbs but not same, every one have some special facial feature and limbs, its also possible one has not one limb or one thing at his face by birth
lots of things.. need2go do T bizness, sleep, wake up... die n all that..
which way these things are could be called same, I could not understand, every ones efforts to get mony are difference, even there are many that do nothing but get mony, sleep and wake up is certainly a natural process but every one has spacification in it. As the matter of death, it is a pure natural phenomena but its happened from outside, its same like sun rises in east and we are unable to overcome both the things.

1_ Is there any thing in human beings that would be equal and same in every person?

2_ Is there any thing in every person (physical or non physical) that can nevery be changed?

regards
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Muezzin
09-18-2006, 10:38 AM
Originally Posted by khalid zaheer
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This is a complicated sentence. as the matter of general instinct then I think every one differes in this matter, procreation is certainly a natural process and every one go through, as the matter of territorial attitude then I think these are also differes in every one. And which way these are interconnected I could not understand. If you can explain it some easy way I would be thank ful to you.
Well, everyone has a desire to survive. This can make them territorial - they want to stay in a safe place and keep any dangerous things out. Also, part of the reason people want to survive is so that they can have children.
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IceQueen~
09-18-2006, 10:55 AM
maybe he means like man is not perfect and forgets-stuff like that
like when Adam forgot about his agreement with Allah because he was human

but even though we're not perfect we can always turn to Allah and He always forgives
subhanallah
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