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`Abd al-Azeez
09-20-2006, 08:53 PM
Jewish rabbi calls for extermination of all Palestinian males

MEMC & Agencies - Monday, 18 September 2006, 14:29

A Jewish rabbi living in the West Bank has called on the Israeli government to use their troops to kill all Palestinian males more than 13 years old in a bid to end Palestinian presence on this earth.

Extremist rabbi Yousef Falay, who dwells at the Yitzhar settlement on illegally seized Palestinian land in the northern part of the West Bank, wrote an article in a Zionist magazine under the title "Ways of War", in which he called for the killing of all Palestinian males refusing to flee their country, describing his idea as the practical way to ensure the non-existence of the Palestinian race.

"We have to make sure that no Palestinian individual remains under our occupation. If they (Palestinians) escape then it is good; but if anyone of them remains, then he should be exterminated", the fanatic rabbi added in his article.

Falay is not the first to have called for such extreme measures. Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Kach movement, called for "the transfer of Israel's Arab population to Arab (or other) lands." (As it states on the group's website). Followers of Kahane have been connected to a number of murders of Palestinians, particularly in the Hebron area in the southern West Bank. In the most well-known of such attacks, 29 Palestinians praying in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron were gunned down by Baruch Goldstein, a follower of Kahane, in 1994, with Israeli soldiers looking on and allowing the gunman to reload his automatic machine gun and continue killing innocent civilians. In response to that massacre, the Israeli authorities punished the Palestinian victims by taking over the Ibrahimi mosque and turning half of it into a synagogue, where Israeli settlers go to pray each week. And each year, on the anniversary of the massacre, Israeli settlers in Hebron dress up like Baruch Goldstein and parade through the streets of Hebron, firing guns in the air.

The Kach movement recognizes the 'transfer' of 750,000 Palestinians that took place in 1948 in order for the state of Israel to be created on their land, but argues on their website that this 'transfer' was incomplete, and that all Palestinians must be sent away, or killed, in order for Israel to remain a 'Jewish state'. Their platform reads, "In a genuinely 'JEWISH State', how can an Arab be an equal when that State has an Independence Day celebrating his defeat. Its flag isn't that of its people. He isn't trusted to serve in the army. His cousin born in Haifa [sic] and fled during the 1948 War of Independence cannot return... yet any Jew who never lived there before is welcomed with open arms. In short, Israel is his enemy's country, not his. So how can an Arab truly be a loyal citizen in a Jewish State? Simply, they cannot, and they must go!"

The idea of extermination of Palestinians, or their 'transfer' into other countries, is not only a view held by extremists on the fringes of society. Prominent Israeli politicians have also made calls for a 'transfer', or ethnic cleansing, based on race. Just last week, on September 11, 2006, an Israeli member of Parliament called explicitly for the transfer of Palestinians (whow he referred to as 'Arabs') from the West Bank (which he referred to as 'Judea and Samaria', the biblical name for the region where the majority of Palestinians now live).

"We have to expel most Arabs from Judea and Samaria," Eitam said at a memorial service for Lt. Amihai Merhavia, a soldier who was killed in South Lebanon in July. "We can't deal with all these Arabs, and we can't give up the territory, because we've already seen what they do there. Some of them might have to stay under certain conditions, but most of them will have to go." Despite a law that would strip Israeli parliament members of their immunity to prosecution if they are found make explicitly racist statements, no investigation of Eitam has occurred on this matter, and there was no condemnation of his statement by the Israeli government.

http://www.imemc.org/content/view/21527/1/
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*noor
11-07-2006, 01:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by `Abd al-Azeez
Jewish rabbi calls for extermination of all Palestinian males

MEMC & Agencies - Monday, 18 September 2006, 14:29

A Jewish rabbi living in the West Bank has called on the Israeli government to use their troops to kill all Palestinian males more than 13 years old in a bid to end Palestinian presence on this earth.

Extremist rabbi Yousef Falay, who dwells at the Yitzhar settlement on illegally seized Palestinian land in the northern part of the West Bank, wrote an article in a Zionist magazine under the title "Ways of War", in which he called for the killing of all Palestinian males refusing to flee their country, describing his idea as the practical way to ensure the non-existence of the Palestinian race.

"We have to make sure that no Palestinian individual remains under our occupation. If they (Palestinians) escape then it is good; but if anyone of them remains, then he should be exterminated", the fanatic rabbi added in his article.

Falay is not the first to have called for such extreme measures. Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Kach movement, called for "the transfer of Israel's Arab population to Arab (or other) lands." (As it states on the group's website). Followers of Kahane have been connected to a number of murders of Palestinians, particularly in the Hebron area in the southern West Bank. In the most well-known of such attacks, 29 Palestinians praying in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron were gunned down by Baruch Goldstein, a follower of Kahane, in 1994, with Israeli soldiers looking on and allowing the gunman to reload his automatic machine gun and continue killing innocent civilians. In response to that massacre, the Israeli authorities punished the Palestinian victims by taking over the Ibrahimi mosque and turning half of it into a synagogue, where Israeli settlers go to pray each week. And each year, on the anniversary of the massacre, Israeli settlers in Hebron dress up like Baruch Goldstein and parade through the streets of Hebron, firing guns in the air.

The Kach movement recognizes the 'transfer' of 750,000 Palestinians that took place in 1948 in order for the state of Israel to be created on their land, but argues on their website that this 'transfer' was incomplete, and that all Palestinians must be sent away, or killed, in order for Israel to remain a 'Jewish state'. Their platform reads, "In a genuinely 'JEWISH State', how can an Arab be an equal when that State has an Independence Day celebrating his defeat. Its flag isn't that of its people. He isn't trusted to serve in the army. His cousin born in Haifa [sic] and fled during the 1948 War of Independence cannot return... yet any Jew who never lived there before is welcomed with open arms. In short, Israel is his enemy's country, not his. So how can an Arab truly be a loyal citizen in a Jewish State? Simply, they cannot, and they must go!"

The idea of extermination of Palestinians, or their 'transfer' into other countries, is not only a view held by extremists on the fringes of society. Prominent Israeli politicians have also made calls for a 'transfer', or ethnic cleansing, based on race. Just last week, on September 11, 2006, an Israeli member of Parliament called explicitly for the transfer of Palestinians (whow he referred to as 'Arabs') from the West Bank (which he referred to as 'Judea and Samaria', the biblical name for the region where the majority of Palestinians now live).

"We have to expel most Arabs from Judea and Samaria," Eitam said at a memorial service for Lt. Amihai Merhavia, a soldier who was killed in South Lebanon in July. "We can't deal with all these Arabs, and we can't give up the territory, because we've already seen what they do there. Some of them might have to stay under certain conditions, but most of them will have to go." Despite a law that would strip Israeli parliament members of their immunity to prosecution if they are found make explicitly racist statements, no investigation of Eitam has occurred on this matter, and there was no condemnation of his statement by the Israeli government.

http://www.imemc.org/content/view/21527/1/

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I don't even know what to say to this!
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IzakHalevas
11-07-2006, 02:38 AM
You would think that out of all groups to understand there are extremists out their that misrepresent a religion, it would be Muslims.... but nope. You all seem to be just as ignorant...

Should I consider Osama as a spokesman for islam as you all seemingly are for this man and Jews?

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Skillganon
11-07-2006, 03:02 AM
Inshallah one day Zionist state will be removed and palestine returned.
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thirdwatch512
11-07-2006, 03:07 AM
ok, why on earth is it that any time a christian posts about osama, or other TERRORISTS, we get slammed down and banned, yet you can blame all jews and zionists for the opinions of one rabbi.

just as terrorists are a minority in islam, they are even a smaller minority in judaism. very few jews are terrorists.. very VERY few.
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north_malaysian
11-07-2006, 04:09 AM
They're sick people in any religious group.....
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AbdulHassanAmir
11-07-2006, 04:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
ok, why on earth is it that any time a christian posts about osama, or other TERRORISTS, we get slammed down and banned, yet you can blame all jews and zionists for the opinions of one rabbi.

just as terrorists are a minority in islam, they are even a smaller minority in judaism. very few jews are terrorists.. very VERY few.
Since when was a zionist a jew? You filled in the gap yourself.
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thirdwatch512
11-07-2006, 04:22 AM
a zionist is anyone who supports israel. and jews obviously support israel.. read the torah.
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north_malaysian
11-07-2006, 04:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
a zionist is anyone who supports israel. and jews obviously support israel.. read the torah.
I support the independent of Israel ... and I'm not a Zionist!!!

Plus ... some Jews dont support Israel ... like Naturei KArtei..
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Skillganon
11-07-2006, 04:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
a zionist is anyone who supports israel. and jews obviously support israel.. read the torah.
Not really. Anyway are you suggesting the Torah has something to do with Zionism?
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thirdwatch512
11-07-2006, 04:29 AM
no, but in the Torah, it talks about the jews in irael, and how it's the jewish homeland.
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Skillganon
11-07-2006, 04:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
no, but in the Torah, it talks about the jews in irael, and how it's the jewish homeland.
Ok, so it becomes their homeland because it say's it in the Torah?

So where did they come from originally? Egypt?
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AbdulHassanAmir
11-07-2006, 04:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
a zionist is anyone who supports israel. and jews obviously support israel.. read the torah.
Not all Jews support the state, you just contradicted yourself stating people are blaming all Jews for being ant semitist because of 1 rabi. Now you just claimed ALL jews support israel just becuase a few of them do.
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north_malaysian
11-07-2006, 05:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skillganon
Ok, so it becomes their homeland because it say's it in the Torah?

So where did they come from originally? Egypt?
The Jews claim they're descendant of Abraham the Hebrew. From what I've read somewhere 'Hebrew' means 'someone from Euphrates'. So they might originated from Kurdistan.
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Trumble
11-07-2006, 05:13 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
I support the independent of Israel ... and I'm not a Zionist!!!

Plus ... some Jews dont support Israel ... like Naturei KArtei..
Exactly. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all (or indeed more than the tiniest minority of) Zionists are extremists like this guy.

I support the right of Israel to exist (if not all its actions) not because I am a 'Zionist' but for the same reason that support the existence of any state that has been around a while and where the majority of those living there wish it to remain.

Representing the views of one extremist nutter as those of all Zionists is absurd; we quite rightly see many posts making the point that just because some muslims think flying airplanes into buildings full of innocent people is right doesn't mean that most of them do. Same thing.

I don't get the Torah reference. Palestine/Israel is where the Jewish people lived when it was written, so what exactly would you expect it to say? If it comes down to where people 'originally' came from, we would all be fighting over the same small part of Africa, somewhere. Virtually nobody is anywhere near where their remote ancestors started off.
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Bittersteel
11-07-2006, 07:32 AM
Muslims in Israel are treated fine though.
Zionism ,I consider ,a dangerous ideology.But all jews in Israel aren't Zionists.
Zionism is somewhat different from basic Judaism in my opinion,though I could be wrong.

I have read this article before and saw the response by an Israeli.he said its never gonna happen(extermination of Palestinian males) because Israel isn't totally a theoratic state,even if it has strong zionist influence in its politics.
and I kind of believe him.
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north_malaysian
11-07-2006, 07:37 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Emir Aziz
Muslims in Israel are treated fine though.
Zionism ,I consider ,a dangerous ideology.But all jews in Israel aren't Zionists.
Zionism is somewhat different from basic Judaism in my opinion,though I could be wrong.

I have read this article before and saw the response by an Israeli.he said its never gonna happen(extermination of Palestinian males) because Israel isn't totally a theoratic state,even if it has strong zionist influence in its politics.
and I kind of believe him.
Israel seems to be a secular country.... it's not ruled by some rabbis..
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Trumble
11-07-2006, 07:55 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Israel seems to be a secular country.... it's not ruled by some rabbis..
Israel is a secular country. I'd also point out that there are also plenty of secular Zionists.. the movement was always primarily political, not religious. 'The Jews', in the sense of those who practice Judaism, and 'the Jewish people' are NOT synonyms.
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north_malaysian
11-07-2006, 08:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble
Israel is a secular country. I'd also point out that there are also plenty of secular Zionists.. the movement was always primarily political, not religious. 'The Jews', in the sense of those who practice Judaism, and 'the Jewish people' are NOT synonyms.
It's obvious that Zionist have political-motivation.... just like Hizbut Tahrir..
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Woodrow
11-07-2006, 02:28 PM
We all need to keep in mind that the Rabbi making those statements does not speak for all Jews.

We all make an error when we take the words of a radical as being representative of an entire group.
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Umar001
11-07-2006, 02:36 PM
peace be upon those who follow guidance,

I do not think All jews believe this, I do wonder why jews are in occupied land, but anyhow, I do not take this guys view to be the view of every jew.

format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
a zionist is anyone who supports israel. and jews obviously support israel.. read the torah.
Come on there are rabbis against zionism!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fD5wcmkGTs

Watch it, clearly refutes Zionism.

a Rabbi from Jews United Against Zionism.

He says a state is forbideen by the Torah! because aparently they are in exile.

He claims life was 100% better for the jews before the state of Israel came to existance and so on.

You think he's lyin?

Its a nice thing to watch.
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Muezzin
11-07-2006, 02:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
ok, why on earth is it that any time a christian posts about osama, or other TERRORISTS, we get slammed down and banned, yet you can blame all jews and zionists for the opinions of one rabbi.
Please tell me where this has happened on this thread and I shall gladly delete the offending posts.
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*noor
11-07-2006, 05:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
just as terrorists are a minority in islam, they are even a smaller minority in judaism. very few jews are terrorists.. very VERY few.
really??

wow
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*noor
11-07-2006, 05:35 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by thirdwatch512
a zionist is anyone who supports israel. and jews obviously support israel.. read the torah.
That statement is incorrect. I know plenty of Jews who condemn zionism and are against what Israel is doing.
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IzakHalevas
11-07-2006, 07:59 PM
He says a state is forbideen by the Torah! because aparently they are in exile.
It is an interpretation of Torah/Talmud that is held by a very small minority. Should I post a video of Osama saying all "infidels" should die, and call it islam? Of course not!
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