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Fishman
10-08-2006, 05:24 PM
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A terror raid that doesn't make the headlines - despite chemical explosives and a rocket launcher


Here's a police seizure of weapons that wasn’t splashed all over the front pages.
This week a British National Party election candidate has been accused of possessing the largest amount of chemical explosives of its type ever found in the country. That’s right, the largest ever - imagine if he’d been an Asian man. Home secretary John Reid would have held a special press conference and it would have led every news bulletin.
The home of another man charged with similar offences contained a rocket launcher and a nuclear biological suit as well as BNP literature and chemicals!
Robert Cottage of Talbot Street, Colne, and David Bolus Jackson of Trent Road, Nelson, made separate appearances in court charged with being in possession of an explosive substance for an unlawful purpose.
Cottage was arrested at his home on Thursday of last week, while retired dentist Jackson was arrested in the Lancaster area on Friday.
The 22 chemical components recovered by police are believed to be the largest haul ever found at a house in this country. Cottage stood as a BNP candidate in the Pendle council elections in May.
Christiana Buchanan, who appeared for the prosecution in Jackson's case, alleged the pair had "some kind of masterplan".
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arabiyyah
10-08-2006, 07:34 PM
imagine if he’d been an Asian man.
I imagine it would be all over the news.
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Rou
10-08-2006, 08:44 PM
no one cares bro why are you tellin us this???

hes no muslim so im sure he meant well he had the explosives and the weapons for self defence!

no no brother are you confused its muslims who blow up things and this bloke werent no muslim!?

whats that i hear an inside job?

a plot to blow up things and harm innocents and pin it on muslims!??

dont waste my time with such conspiracy theories join the real world!!

bnp are looking out for the intrests of briton!! they would never harm there own people just to make others look bad!!

VOTE BNP!!!

look forward to a very bright future!

say how bright is a chemical explosion? ^o)
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Fishman
10-08-2006, 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Rou
no one cares bro why are you tellin us this???

hes no muslim so im sure he meant well he had the explosives and the weapons for self defence!

no no brother are you confused its muslims who blow up things and this bloke werent no muslim!?

whats that i hear an inside job?

a plot to blow up things and harm innocents and pin it on muslims!??

dont waste my time with such conspiracy theories join the real world!!

bnp are looking out for the intrests of briton!! they would never harm there own people just to make others look bad!!

VOTE BNP!!!

look forward to a very bright future!
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What I'm worried about is what the explosives were for...

say how bright is a chemical explosion? ^o)
Depends whether it's phosporous or not...
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Rou
10-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Originally Posted by Fishman
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What I'm worried about is what the explosives were for...


Depends whether it's phosporous or not...
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theres a war against islam bro...against muslims wether the west admits it or not wether we accept it or not...theres a war...

the explosives could have been for two things one white flagging in plain blowing up things in briton and blaming it on muslims or to attack mosques etc that i doubt as it wont do much but help muslims so....

chemicals again it sounds more and more likley of two things one to attack british sites and blame muslims to create more fuel for fire or two they are expecting muslims and westerners to kick it off big time...

one way or another bro tthey want war...wether it be taking a womans veil or killing brothers this is going to begin....

may allah guide the wise and help us all in these times...
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Fishman
10-09-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally Posted by Rou
theres a war against islam bro...against muslims wether the west admits it or not wether we accept it or not...theres a war...

the explosives could have been for two things one white flagging in plain blowing up things in briton and blaming it on muslims or to attack mosques etc that i doubt as it wont do much but help muslims so....

chemicals again it sounds more and more likley of two things one to attack british sites and blame muslims to create more fuel for fire or two they are expecting muslims and westerners to kick it off big time...

one way or another bro tthey want war...wether it be taking a womans veil or killing brothers this is going to begin....

may allah guide the wise and help us all in these times...
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I suspect something much more sinister. Ever heard of the Beer Hall Putsch?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

The BNP may have been planning to take over the country by force. They wouldn't have just started blowing up Masjids, that would make them even more unpopular. Instead they would try to seize power like Hitler did, then begin their persecutions of immigrants and Muslims. After that, they would start persecuting the Jews too.
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Rou
10-09-2006, 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by Fishman
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I suspect something much more sinister. Ever heard of the Beer Hall Putsch?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

The BNP may have been planning to take over the country by force. They wouldn't have just started blowing up Masjids, that would make them even more unpopular. Instead they would try to seize power like Hitler did, then begin their persecutions of immigrants and Muslims. After that, they would start persecuting the Jews too.
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unfortunate for the bnp they wouldnt get away with it only due to the poppulation of the country and its voice in the world...

the US france and such places wouldnt let it last long...
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united
10-09-2006, 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Fishman
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I suspect something much more sinister. Ever heard of the Beer Hall Putsch?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

The BNP may have been planning to take over the country by force. They wouldn't have just started blowing up Masjids, that would make them even more unpopular. Instead they would try to seize power like Hitler did, then begin their persecutions of immigrants and Muslims. After that, they would start persecuting the Jews too.
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Why do they need to take over the country? its hard work. staging an attack and blaming muslims is so easy to do and no one will investigate (7/7 anyone?). they may even find some muslims to "confess".
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Fishman
10-09-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally Posted by united
Why do they need to take over the country? its hard work. staging an attack and blaming muslims is so easy to do and no one will investigate (7/7 anyone?). they may even find some muslims to "confess".
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Taking over is probably much easier than fooling today's forensic ivestigations. And their goal is to remove all non-anglo-saxons from the country, not to ban Islam. If they got in power then they probably would ban Islam, but their main focus has always been on immigration.

The article claims the police think it's some sort of 'master plan'. Blowing up Masjids or faking a terrorist attack is hardly a master plan.
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united
10-09-2006, 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Fishman
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Taking over is probably much easier than fooling today's forensic ivestigations.

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how about not letting the forensics investigate in the first place?
yeh they probably do want to take over. but the have to be "elected". simple way to do this, cause chaos, blame it on minorities and voila the majority will be screaming for the BNP.
of course it cant be one step and there is no gauratee that they will succeed but:
"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me. "
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Fishman
10-09-2006, 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by united
how about not letting the forensics investigate in the first place?
yeh they probably do want to take over. but the have to be "elected". simple way to do this, cause chaos, blame it on minorities and voila the majority will be screaming for the BNP.
of course it cant be one step and there is no gauratee that they will succeed but:
"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me. "
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How would the BNP stop a forensic investigation? They aren't exactly powerful.
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united
10-09-2006, 09:06 PM
im not too sure. but in the UK im not sure why we havnt had a public enquiry into the 7/7 attacks either.
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Rou
10-10-2006, 04:47 PM
uhmmm i dont think its to take over britan as i said not an easy job with all the democracy in the west...un would have them in seconds cos this is the west...not middleeast etc..thier aim is to stir trouble to prove that having other races here only causes trouble...
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united
10-10-2006, 07:57 PM
germany was part of "the west" aswell, nowhere near the middle east.
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Fishman
10-10-2006, 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by united
germany was part of "the west" aswell, nowhere near the middle east.
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And Germany was a democracy. Which was the very thing Hitler exploited to get into power. All he needed to do was to find a scapegoat to blame the country's problems on, and he was elected very quickly.
Then they said that Jews controlled the German economy. Now they say that Muslims are controlling Europe.
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united
10-10-2006, 08:35 PM
exactly
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Fishman
10-10-2006, 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by united
exactly
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I found out from the Searchlight website that security forces recently foiled a Nazi coup in Austria.
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Woodrow
10-11-2006, 01:34 AM
Bending over backwards it may be possible to come up with a legitimate reason for the 22 explosive substances. However, even standing on my head I can not come up with a valid reason for a person to be in possession of a rocket launcher.
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