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Abdul-Raouf
11-02-2006, 05:40 PM
There are various pictures, videos, that prove that NASA made a hoax of "man landing in moon".... and even great scientists in NASA, journalists ... have said that the US made a drama just for ... provin that its superior to USSR in the late 60's.......


* How come the US flag fly... in moon... where there is no wind..
* How come there be two shadows...
* How come .. there are no stars in the sky.... when u r in moon...
* How come they telecast live pictures from moon(that too in 1960s) during that time... but now they are not...
* How come there is no crater created after landing on moon when a shuttle impacts.... BUT foot prints are there......
* Y there is an area created named "AREA51" in US army base .... which has similar surface- artificial craters ... similar to that of moon...
*... and a lot of doubts to clear...



AND IF THEY COULD SEND MAN TO MOON IN THE 1960s WHY R THEY NOT TRYING IT TODAY......

please give the reason ... for your belief/non-belief
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Abdul-Raouf
11-02-2006, 06:01 PM
check out... and cast ur vote.........
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united
11-02-2006, 06:03 PM
^agreed.
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amirah_87
11-02-2006, 06:06 PM
As Salaamu Alaykum,

Nope, I don't!!.. :heated:

but then where do their rockets take off to? :X
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strider
11-02-2006, 06:27 PM
Yes, i believe man landed on the Moon.
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Al-Zaara
11-02-2006, 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by strider
Yes, i believe man landed on the Moon.
Yes, me too.
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Keltoi
11-02-2006, 06:30 PM
I'm not sure why we haven't returned to the moon, but I assume because the cost of such a mission doesn't get much in the way of return. There is dust and rock on the moon, and we've got plenty of that stuff to study. I think they are looking to reach a more promising place for study, which of course would be Mars.
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The Ruler
11-02-2006, 06:34 PM
:sl:

i dont believe that...because whenever i see a picture, there r shadows but there aint supposed to be shadows on the moon right :?....(or it it the other way round :hmm:)

:w:
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Keltoi
11-02-2006, 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by +*Glacier*+
:sl:

i dont believe that...because whenever i see a picture, there r shadows but there aint supposed to be shadows on the moon right :?....(or it it the other way round :hmm:)

:w:
A hoax doesn't make any sense. There were literally thousands of people connected to the launch and lunar landing, not to mention the many other missions into space. A cover-up of that magnitude would literally involve thousands of people.
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united
11-02-2006, 06:41 PM
but if they were doing it for "their country"... patriotism etc
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The Ruler
11-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Keltoi
A hoax doesn't make any sense. There were literally thousands of people connected to the launch and lunar landing, not to mention the many other missions into space. A cover-up of that magnitude would literally involve thousands of people.
yes but if you think about it...it is indeed very easy to cover it up...the rocket could have been empty, or maybe the rocket just goes up and floats and then returns back :?....anything...:)...the launch may not be what it appears to be...you cant always believe what you see can you :)

:w:
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MusLiM 4 LiFe
11-02-2006, 08:16 PM
i dnt no, havent reali bothered 2bh.. but i got dis email wid kinda proved 2 me dt it aint tru so im goin wid NOT true :D
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whitesoul
11-02-2006, 08:20 PM
the man did not land on the moon. it was a hoax.there was a race between the russians and the americans.the 1st country to land on the moon will be the winner.something had gone wrong with the nasa rocket when drastic things happen drastic measure have to b taken. n thats what nasa did really. hired a studio got pieces of rocks and ta da u got a fake landing mission!
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MusLiM 4 LiFe
11-02-2006, 08:21 PM
lol yep ^ ur ryt :p
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Aisha20
11-02-2006, 08:22 PM
the man did not land on the moon. it was a hoax.there was a race between the russians and the americans.the 1st country to land on the moon will be the winner.something had gone wrong with the nasa rocket when drastic things happen drastic measure have to b taken. n thats what nasa did really. hired a studio got pieces of rocks and ta da u got a fake landing mission!
wow :X
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The_Dude
11-02-2006, 08:24 PM
i think its true, but ma science teacher finks its false though, but da reason y they aint going into space anymore is because it cost's too much for the space shuttle to go intp space price is over 5 billion, and people are not bothered about the moon, all they see is a dull surface so they wna study planets like mars or further strecthed planets, so i fink its true but i dnt beleav neil was the first person on the moon lol, i beleave it was buzz.

:sl:
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MusLiM 4 LiFe
11-02-2006, 08:25 PM
evn if it duz cost alot of money, if america r so loaded why not?
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The_Dude
11-02-2006, 08:31 PM
but u reckon america are bovered about space shuttles n dat dey wna live da dream and filld er nafs in casino and dat get me?
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Muezzin
11-02-2006, 10:09 PM
Anyone seen that Red Bull advert where Neil Armstrong flubs his line and falls over? Houston tells the astronauts to drink some Red Bull and fly home so they can shoot it in the studio.

Ah, funny stuff.
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Fishman
11-02-2006, 10:13 PM
Originally Posted by MusLiM 4 LiFe
evn if it duz cost alot of money, if america r so loaded why not?
:sl:
America is also run by greedy capitalists who do care about money even if they already have more than enough.
:w:
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Keltoi
11-02-2006, 10:34 PM
It makes a good conspiracy, but there is too much evidence linked to the lunar landing to really substantiate some kind of hoax on the part of NASA. Scientists around the globe have done research into how the lunar capsule was designed and the specifics of the mission. The "evidence" of some kind of hoax is limited to some percieved problems with an old black and white photo, all documentation and eye witness accounts leave little doubt about the authenticity.
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Woodrow
11-02-2006, 10:40 PM
The Russians would have gladly offered proof of a hoax back in the 1960s. Remember there were radio broadcasts from the moon and simple radio trianglation easily traces the location of a radio signal.

Also, there would have much radar tracking of the lunar mission by the Russians. The launch time and date were well publicised in advance. I think it would be safe to say that the Russians tracked every inch of the flight.

the Russians are not stupid and were equal to us in the 60s. there is no way we could pull off a hoax of that magnitude without the Russians uncovering it.

Now why did we not return? Simple, it is not economicaly feasible. That was an expensive venture with no monetary gain. Congress is not about to appropriate the money to give somebody an expensive joy ride.
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Muezzin
11-02-2006, 10:55 PM
They should stop making lunar capsules. What if Osama Bin Laden got his hands on one? I mean, not only would he have the ultimate television studio, he'd also have a moon base!
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Woodrow
11-02-2006, 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by Muezzin
They should stop making lunar capsules. What if Osama Bin Laden got his hands on one? I mean, not only would he have the ultimate television studio, he'd also have a moon base!
I doubt if there are any lunar landind capsules in storage any place. About the only thing used on a regular basis is the shuttle fleet and they do not have lunar capability.

all the other stuff is built individualy for specific missions. Also, the space program has been continuously been loosing funding. The American public is about tired of funding space ventures and Congress now has very low priority for NASA.

I beleive that public support of public space exploration is at a standstill here in the US. However, it seems that the opportunity for private entrepeneurs is opening up and soon we will begin to see private ventures by private corporations.
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Muezzin
11-02-2006, 11:26 PM
So, in theory, crazy violent people could hijack spacecraft in the future and actually set up shop on other planets to base their operations?

Man, we need to pull a Captain Scarlet and set up Spectrum.
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Woodrow
11-02-2006, 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by Muezzin
So, in theory, crazy violent people could hijack spacecraft in the future and actually set up shop on other planets to base their operations?

Man, we need to pull a Captain Scarlet and set up Spectrum.
You ever see the size of the Saturn rocket and atlas boosters it takes to shove a space capsule into orbit. Plus the size of the fuel tanks. It takes something like 100 pounds of fuel for each pound of payload. One reason the earliy satellites were about the size of a soccor ball and weighed about one kilo at most. there are no space crafts to hijack. the capsules and shuttles are seperate from the launch rockets. The launch rockets and fuel tanks are one time usage and ditched in the ocean at launch. Totaly empyt cylanders of no value after the launch. Also totaly useless untill fueled and prepared for launch before use and even then the window of opportunity to launch is only a matter of hours each year.
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Malaikah
11-03-2006, 12:39 AM
:sl:

How come there is no "dont know, dont care" or "Allah swt knows best" option? :D
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Abdul-Raouf
11-03-2006, 12:51 AM
i have a video...... from FOX Television News Group... a 40 minute video... if u see that they are proving point by point that ... man never did land on moon....

the video is 450mb where can i upload it
?????
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Ferrari1981
11-03-2006, 12:58 AM
LOL you guys are hilarious!

Originally Posted by whitesoul
the man did not land on the moon. it was a hoax.there was a race between the russians and the americans.the 1st country to land on the moon will be the winner.something had gone wrong with the nasa rocket when drastic things happen drastic measure have to b taken. n thats what nasa did really. hired a studio got pieces of rocks and ta da u got a fake landing mission!
TRUE

Theres actually something in the Qur'an relating to this that no man can possibly land on the moon, if they tried he sure hell wouldn't be coming back to Earth!

I need more information on this but from all the conspiracies I dont think man landed on the moon either...

The Russians and the American did indeed race to the moon no doubt I believe its a coverup at 'Area 51' the US secret base, as the same goes for the Roswell UFO report!!!
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Malaikah
11-03-2006, 07:09 AM
Originally Posted by Ferrari1981
Theres actually something in the Qur'an relating to this that no man can possibly land on the moon, if they tried he sure hell wouldn't be coming back to Earth!
:sl:

Where in the Quran? :?
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Woodrow
11-03-2006, 07:14 AM
Originally Posted by cheese
:sl:

Where in the Quran? :?
I also can't find it.
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Ferrari1981
11-03-2006, 11:59 AM
Originally Posted by cheese
:sl:Where in the Quran? :?
Originally Posted by Woodrow
I also can't find it.
Well I was taught this, what do you mean you couldn't find it lol you cant just pick up a holy book and expect it to be in there!!!

Anyway Ill ask around Im sure its in there though from the last time I checked something about science and space etc...
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Woodrow
11-03-2006, 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by Ferrari1981
Well I was taught this, what do you mean you couldn't find it lol you cant just pick up a holy book and expect it to be in there!!!

Anyway Ill ask around Im sure its in there though from the last time I checked something about science and space etc...
I must have misread your post. I understood your post as saying it was written in the Qur'an. I do not consider myself a Qur'anic scholar. However, my Son-in-law is quite knowledgable in it and he has never heard that. Neither has my Grandson's Quran instructor and he is considered a scholar at the Masjid.

Of course we are all humans and we are all capable of error. Myself, My Son-in-Law and my Grandson's instructor can be wrong. I do not doubt that is something you were taught. I just want to know the source. I am always appreciative of the truth, especialy if I may be in error.
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Ferrari1981
11-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Woodrow
I must have misread your post. I understood your post as saying it was written in the Qur'an. I do not consider myself a Qur'anic scholar. However, my Son-in-law is quite knowledgable in it and he has never heard that. Neither has my Grandson's Quran instructor and he is considered a scholar at the Masjid.

Of course we are all humans and we are all capable of error. Myself, My Son-in-Law and my Grandson's instructor can be wrong. I do not doubt that is something you were taught. I just want to know the source. I am always appreciative of the truth, especialy if I may be in error.
Well Im sure I may as well could have been taught in a way that I may have misunderstood myself, but I was told that its in the science and space section of the Qur'an which discusses the moon itself and why man cannot possibly land there... I maybe mistaken but I will look into it as its my area of expertise (space and physics that is), Inshallah!
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waji
11-03-2006, 01:55 PM
:sl:

i think brother ferrari ur pointing ayat of Quran and i think it is in Sura Bakara
in which Allah has said that if someone see the moon, sun and sky and try to find out any error,but he will not find any errors and his eyes will again and again come back without any errors

if there is any other speacific ayat ur talking then plz tell us where it is said

:w:
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strider
11-03-2006, 04:21 PM
Why may it be impossible for man to land on the moon?
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Muezzin
11-03-2006, 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by strider
Why may it be impossible for man to land on the moon?
The question this thread is asking is: 'How many of u believe... that Man had landed in MOON???'

I don't believe that for one second. :p
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strider
11-03-2006, 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Muezzin
The question this thread is asking is: 'How many of u believe... that Man had landed in MOON???'

I don't believe that for one second. :p
Haha.. you're right. ;D
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InToTheRain
11-03-2006, 08:37 PM
:sl:

it did happen :rollseyes

Did the Apollo astronauts really land on the Moon?

Of course they did! The Apollo Moon landings were among the most completely documented and observed events in history. The conspiracy "theories" that claim otherwise are a bunch of nonsense without even a single compelling piece of evidence. Most of the questions raised are based on ignorance of basic physics and optics. Video special effects were in their infancy in the late 60's so that faking a landing on the Moon would probably have been more difficult than actually going there, and it seems highly unlikely that the hundreds or even thousands of people who would have had to be involved in such a conspiracy would have kept it a secret for so long.

Ultimately you'll have to decide for yourself if the marginal evidence offered to show this was all a hoax is compelling enough to overturn the overwhelming evidence that it actually occurred, but make sure you check the facts carefully, you need to be a little skeptical of the skeptics, too. For more detailed debunking of this ill-conceived notion, see:

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html

http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/

http://www.nsta.org/pubs/tst/article1.asp

http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/

Fault line found on the moon to prove it was split in two:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_split.htm
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Fishman
11-03-2006, 08:47 PM
Originally Posted by WnbSlveOfAllah
:sl:


Fault line found on the moon to prove it was split in two:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_split.htm
:sl:
There are big fault lines on Earth too. Does that mean it split in two? Of course not. Prehaps we should follow what more sensible people say and believe that the moon appeared to split, rather than actually physically split.
:w:
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maryamjp
11-04-2006, 02:36 AM
Assalamu Alikum,
I had firmly believed that man landed on moon but after seeing opinions of others here I became skeptical. But if it was not true, why no other countries did claim that USA did a big fraud.
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ishkabab
11-04-2006, 02:43 AM
well Neil Armstrong became muslim right?...............
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M2A^AKIB^
11-04-2006, 04:32 AM
they are thinking of going back to the moon. i read the answers to all those questions somewhere. i don't see what is there not to believe. it's all true, come on. if u think we never landed on the moon, then it must be ur lack of understanding. no offence.
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M2A^AKIB^
11-04-2006, 05:01 AM
this is a picture i found long time ago.
looks like a split don't it?
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Keltoi
11-04-2006, 05:54 AM
Originally Posted by Ya Mustafa
this is a picture i found long time ago.
looks like a split don't it?
looks like a fault line, not a "split".
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Muhammad
11-04-2006, 09:38 AM
:sl:

I think the verse that the brother is referring to is the following:

O assembly of jinns and men! If you have power to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allâh)! [Qur'an, 55:33]



But if we look at Ibn Katheer's commentary, he says regarding this verse:
meaning, `you will never be able to escape Allah's orders and decrees, because it encompasses you. You will never be able to avoid or avert His rule and judgement over you, you are surrounded by it wherever you may be.' This is also about the Gathering when the angels, comprising seven lines in every direction, will surround the creatures. None of the creatures will be able to escape on that Day,
[إِلاَّ بِسُلْطَـنٍ]
(except with authority) meaning, except with the commandment from Allah,
So as far as the obvious goes, this is not talking about landing on the moon. I think this has already been mentioned elsewhere on the forum.

Regarding the splitting of the moon, we do not need to look for cracks or fault lines to believe that this was true. There are numerous hadeeth which state that it clearly split in two, mentioning that a mountain could be seen between its two parts.

:w:
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A_Witness
11-04-2006, 09:49 AM
Greetings to all.

I do not believe that man has actually landed on the moon. I believe this because although I am not a rocket scientist (as if that isn't obvious!) I understand that the radiation from what is known as the Van Allen Radiation Belt is too intense to allow for survival of a human to pass through it.

Also, the temperatures on the moon in the sunlight would be too hot for human survival. I cannot see how any space suit could dissipate that amount of heat, given the fact that there is no air on the moon to dissipate it and the suit was too small to contain the amount of coolant needed. There was no "umbilicus" connected to the “lunar lander" which could circulate such coolant.

I imagine that it was faked to draw public attention from the war in Vietnam. Also, it was an opportunity to "prove" American superiority vs. Russia who had beaten the US to the moon in an unmanned vessel.

I suspect that NASA and the entire "Space Program" here is in place to explain away the disappearance of large amounts of money as an accounting maneuver. It covers the “Black Ops” projects (things which the government don’t want people to know about) by hiding their expenses in a “respectable” place in the budget, keeping them “off the books”. It also allows the Black Ops people to avoid congressional budgetary oversight from those members who are not politically “onboard” with those “enlightened” leaders who meet in the buildings without windows.

Need to account for a couple of billion dollars? No problem! Just send another space probe to Venus. It burns up on or before impact leaving no trace. I’m sure the data they (say they) receive will make it all worth while! All the space propaganda broadcast through popular television programs here (“Star Trek” etc.) make all of us here in American Babylon feel all “warm and fuzzy”, while the majority of us kill our brain cells with beer or something stronger.

Of course, my opinion is in the minority.

Did I mention that I am not very popular here?
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M2A^AKIB^
11-04-2006, 02:06 PM
why do u think they spend nearly millions of dollars on space suits? ^^^
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Muezzin
11-04-2006, 04:47 PM
Originally Posted by A_Witness
Greetings to all.

I do not believe that man has actually landed on the moon. I believe this because although I am not a rocket scientist (as if that isn't obvious!) I understand that the radiation from what is known as the Van Allen Radiation Belt is too intense to allow for survival of a human to pass through it.
On the other hand, a human passing through it might come out the other end looking like a member of the Fantastic Four.
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The Ruler
11-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Ya Mustafa
why do u think they spend nearly millions of dollars on space suits? ^^^
:sl:

so that it seems like something special :?

:w:
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InToTheRain
11-04-2006, 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Muhammad

Regarding the splitting of the moon, we do not need to look for cracks or fault lines to believe that this was true. There are numerous hadeeth which state that it clearly split in two, mentioning that a mountain could be seen between its two parts.

:w:
:sl:

agreed akhi, just one question:
Did it appear to split or actually split?

:w:
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Keltoi
11-04-2006, 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by A_Witness
Greetings to all.

I do not believe that man has actually landed on the moon. I believe this because although I am not a rocket scientist (as if that isn't obvious!) I understand that the radiation from what is known as the Van Allen Radiation Belt is too intense to allow for survival of a human to pass through it.

Also, the temperatures on the moon in the sunlight would be too hot for human survival. I cannot see how any space suit could dissipate that amount of heat, given the fact that there is no air on the moon to dissipate it and the suit was too small to contain the amount of coolant needed. There was no "umbilicus" connected to the “lunar lander" which could circulate such coolant.

I imagine that it was faked to draw public attention from the war in Vietnam. Also, it was an opportunity to "prove" American superiority vs. Russia who had beaten the US to the moon in an unmanned vessel.

I suspect that NASA and the entire "Space Program" here is in place to explain away the disappearance of large amounts of money as an accounting maneuver. It covers the “Black Ops” projects (things which the government don’t want people to know about) by hiding their expenses in a “respectable” place in the budget, keeping them “off the books”. It also allows the Black Ops people to avoid congressional budgetary oversight from those members who are not politically “onboard” with those “enlightened” leaders who meet in the buildings without windows.

Need to account for a couple of billion dollars? No problem! Just send another space probe to Venus. It burns up on or before impact leaving no trace. I’m sure the data they (say they) receive will make it all worth while! All the space propaganda broadcast through popular television programs here (“Star Trek” etc.) make all of us here in American Babylon feel all “warm and fuzzy”, while the majority of us kill our brain cells with beer or something stronger.

Of course, my opinion is in the minority.

Did I mention that I am not very popular here?
The fact that the spacesuits were white isn't a fashion statement, the suits reflect alot of heat by their color. The suits also had a coolant system in the back using water. The reason the flag appears to be waving is because a horizontal bar was placed within the flag to stop it from hanging limp. Doesn't do much good to land on the moon and plant a flag if the American people and the Soviets can't see what flag it is. The pictures were taken by an automatic camera inside the lunar module.
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Woodrow
11-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Question:
Is it impossible to travel to the Moon, because of the Van Allen Belt?

From: Peter Wingerter
Grade: None given
City: None given State/Prov.: None given Country: None given
Area: Astronomy
Message ID Number: 958408099.As

Is there any truth to the rumor? Is it impossible to travel to the moon, because of the Van Allen Belt?

Peter Wingerter


Answer:
This is an especially interesting question, though maybe more about psychology and epistemology than about astronomy or physics. Nevertheless, the same question comes up again and again, in one form or another, so it really is very important.

It has a number of possible answers:


The Apollo spacecraft passed through the Van Allen belt quite quickly, so that in the short time they were exposed, the astronauts did not receive a dose of radiation considered dangerous, at least not compared to the inevitable other risks in the mission.
This is the straightforward, scientific answer. It is correct, to the best of my knowledge and belief.


Source:

http://spider.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/waw/mad/mad19.html
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InToTheRain
11-04-2006, 06:56 PM
Originally Posted by A_Witness
Need to account for a couple of billion dollars? No problem! Just send another space probe to Venus. It burns up on or before impact leaving no trace. I’m sure the data they (say they) receive will make it all worth while! All the space propaganda broadcast through popular television programs here (“Star Trek” etc.) make all of us here in American Babylon feel all “warm and fuzzy”, while the majority of us kill our brain cells with beer or something stronger.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Honestly I do not know if a man landed on the moon or not and fact is I don't care. But I agree that the whole operation is complete waste of money.
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M2A^AKIB^
11-05-2006, 12:02 AM
for those of u who don't believe its possible to go through van allen belt, how do scientists put satellites up in the space and repair it when it needs to be repaired. without them satellites, i have no clue how u r using the internet right now or how u r communicating with others with cellphones etc...
it's common sense.
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Abdul Fattah
11-05-2006, 05:18 AM
Selam aleykum
This seems like an interesting discussion. I haven't read all of it so forgive me if I am repeating stuff that has already been said. Anyway. I'm not sure wheter this actually hapened or not, the footage that is supposed to function as proof raise a lot of unanswered questions indeed.

As for the counterquestions, let me hypothesyse on some of them.
Someone here suggested that it couldn't be a hoax because to many people should have to be in on it. However, how many people would actually have to know the truth? Let's hypothesise. Say that they didn't land on the moon but instead just circled around it. So they had the real astronauts circling the moon, and the stand-ins on earth making a nice picture. Who would have to be in on this? Well obviously the astronauts, the actors and the people who calculated and set the course for the rocket. How about the guys who made the landing gear and all of that stuff, and all the million other things that are related to this mission. Well there are multiple options. On some stuff they might have had bogus teams, they might have had genuine teams with guys who thought their research mattered but who fell for the hoax to, and then some stuff might not have been designed in the first place; and the number of people we believed to be involved is larger then the number of people who actually were involved. Be it as it may, in a govermental organisation, where they work on need to know basis, and each team has it's own jo and only a few people overlook it all and see the big picture I'd say it's defenetly possible.

Or how about the Russians following up. Well it is true that it's possible to pinpoint a location from three points, however, the further away the source is, the less accurate that technique becomes especially with radiowaves who have a long amplitude. See the calculations used are based on the assumptions that the waves follow a straight line, but they don't. They follow a wavy path. And the further away your source is, the bigger your error-margin becomes. So, all they had to do was send the video that was prerecorded up along with them and have them transmit that footage from when they were circulating. And even if the Russians were able to figure out that they weren't actually on the moon, but instead just around it, then I don't think they would have gone public with this for the following reasons:
1. They wouldn't be certain enough. They would probably think: "this cannot be a hoax"
2. They wouldn't have hard solid proof
3. They knew that the Americans would just laugh it off and say that it is either a malfunctioning of their measuringequipment or just an shamfull attempt of the Russians to "steal their thunder". And the Russians would hence still come out as looking inferior.

As for the van allen belt, it is an area around the earth created by the earth's magnetic field that pushes all the radiation in a certain place. Now certain areas of this belt have a high condensity of radiation. Hence the question, how could they pass that area, well it's true they only passed a small period of time, but that's not really important. the van allen belt is only special here because it's very dense on radiation at certain points. But the crew should have been exposed to that kind of radiation the whole time during that trip. Since that radiation is everywhere in space. Now I Imagen the craft took some of it down but on the moon where they were only protected by their suits this would become very troublesome.

Oh and to go off topic quickly to answer the questions. as for sattelites and van allen belt, we should in fact be thankfull to the belt, because this belt is what allows us to have sattelites, without that belt we wouldn't be able to have sattelites. See the belt is like two rings: an inner ring and an outer ring both with high condesety of radiation and an area inbetween that is kept free of radiation. here's a picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:V...ation_belt.png
And when I say free I really mean free, Nasa has exploded a atombomb up there to check what would happen and the radiation disapeared within a week, well it didn't disapear but got pushed to the innner and outer ring. Anyway, we keep our sattelites in that safe zone. that's how they are able to work in space. The ring protects them from radiation.

As for the heat on the moon, I think the official explenation was that it was at sunset or sunrise so the heat wasn't that big. However that in itself raises a whole list of new questions. For example, if the moon has no air and hence no atmosphere that would mean that sunrise and sunset doesn't happen so slowly and gradually as it does on earth. This explenation also doesn't add up with the shadows in the pictures who show us the sun although it must be close to the horizon must clearly be there.
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thirdwatch512
11-05-2006, 05:21 AM
of course man went to the moon! there are plenty of pictures to show it too.

man going to moon.. that doesn't contradict islam does it?
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Abdul Fattah
11-05-2006, 05:22 AM
No not at all, it's just, the pictures raise a lot of unanswered questions, and unanswered questions hav a tendency to bringh forth conspiracy theorys since that is the easyest imagenable answer.
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GARY
11-05-2006, 08:40 AM
I seen a documentary a few years back that debunked the conspiracy theories, I am sorry that I don't recall the name of it.

BTW Muzammil, cool sig. very festive in a Christmas kind of way.
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ricardo_sousa
01-10-2008, 01:32 PM
Originally Posted by whitesoul
the man did not land on the moon. it was a hoax.there was a race between the russians and the americans.the 1st country to land on the moon will be the winner.something had gone wrong with the nasa rocket when drastic things happen drastic measure have to b taken. n thats what nasa did really. hired a studio got pieces of rocks and ta da u got a fake landing mission!
so, the Russians were so stupid that they confirmed that their biggest rival, the USA, had in fact landed in the moon. They accepted defeat in an multi-million dollar race, and they had no technology to check if the Americans had landed in the moon....:rolleyes:
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adeeb
01-10-2008, 01:38 PM
i do believe that people landed on the moon...

i dont know..we have many pics and proves that we have landed on the moon, don't we?
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Nasir666
01-10-2008, 07:28 PM
:sl:

Imo, first couple of moon landings were hoaxes just to demoralized Russia and get ahead in the space race.
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wilberhum
01-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by ricardo_sousa
so, the Russians were so stupid that they confirmed that their biggest rival, the USA, had in fact landed in the moon. They accepted defeat in an multi-million dollar race, and they had no technology to check if the Americans had landed in the moon....:rolleyes:
Replying to a post that is over a year old made by a newbe that hasn't been back for a year. :-\
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sur
01-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by Abdul-Raouf
There are various pictures, videos, that prove that NASA made a hoax of "man landing in moon".... and even great scientists in NASA, journalists ... have said that the US made a drama just for ... provin that its superior to USSR in the late 60's.......


* How come the US flag fly... in moon... where there is no wind..
* How come there be two shadows...
* How come .. there are no stars in the sky.... when u r in moon...
* How come they telecast live pictures from moon(that too in 1960s) during that time... but now they are not...
* How come there is no crater created after landing on moon when a shuttle impacts.... BUT foot prints are there......
* Y there is an area created named "AREA51" in US army base .... which has similar surface- artificial craters ... similar to that of moon...
*... and a lot of doubts to clear...

AND IF THEY COULD SEND MAN TO MOON IN THE 1960s WHY R THEY NOT TRYING IT TODAY......

please give the reason ... for your belief/non-belief
I never saw it flying, If u have video of flag flying plz share it.

If it was a hoax, USSR/Rusia wouldn't have let it go easily. After all they were in space-race. They would never have allowed cheating.

Have u ever been to moon, if no then how do u know there r no craters.???

Now we don't see live pics, coz they don't go to moon anymore. They just go to space & come back.

Stars were not visible may be coz of poor camera resolution!!!! Allah knows best.
Even if u try to take pics of stars from ur camera, i think stars won't be visible on TV. Though i never tried it.
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guyabano
01-10-2008, 08:14 PM
I'm tear apart by this story. Humans have the technology to fly to the moon, even though every Pocket Computer/PDA is more powerful today then those in their landing module.
But then again, there are some question which remained unanswered, even by NASA. How can the flag wave in the wind on the moon, when there is no atmosphere. How comes, that when you play the moves with faster speed, the astronautes on the moon move like in normal earth gravity?
It's confusing
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Muezzin
01-19-2008, 04:44 PM
Now that Japan have those HD cameras in space, surely they could look at the areas of the moon in question and we could all see whether or not the flag and the footprints are actually there? Here's the opportunity to end this debate once and for all.

It would also just be really cool on a visceral level.
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Muslim Woman
01-19-2008, 05:03 PM
:sl:

sometimes i think , Americans did not land on the moon :-\ ....but again sometimes i think , may be they did lol
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krypton6
01-19-2008, 05:22 PM
I believe in it, but perhaps it never took place. America had to do something, since they knew that the Soviet was getting way ahead, they had to make the big step so perhaps they just faked the moon landing.
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Keltoi
01-19-2008, 08:50 PM
Of course the U.S. landed on the moon, and I'm sure when we return there will be a big media blitz showing the video of the astronauts footprints and the flag. The reason we don't return now is because it is very expensive and it was a very risky proposition to begin with. There were many NASA scientists who were very dubious about the chances of those guys actually returning to Earth.
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Dr.Trax
01-19-2008, 08:59 PM
Originally Posted by Abdul-Raouf
AND IF THEY COULD SEND MAN TO MOON IN THE 1960s WHY R THEY NOT TRYING IT TODAY......
Yes I agree to this too!
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thirdwatch512
01-19-2008, 09:05 PM
lol of course we have been to the moon
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Keltoi
01-20-2008, 12:32 AM
What would be the point of returning to the Moon? The race to moon was about showing up Russia. There is almost no scientific use in another operation to the Moon. NASA is far more interested in creating a permanent international space station from which to launch more worthwhile missions...like a Martian landing.
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Woodrow
01-20-2008, 06:35 AM
I do not doubt that we did land on the moon. But it really was not a very cost effective or practical thing. It was basically a multi- Billion dollar publicity show to intimidate the Russians.

One of the main things done at that time was all radio transmissions during the landing missions were on open frequencies and very many amatuer astronomers and other people followed the transmissions. Simple triangulations allowed for ever inch of the flight, landing etc, to be verified by millions of people. Many of whom were seeking to prove it was a hoax as it was happening. too many people followed it closely either by radio or visually. It was of great interest to those of us who were amateur astronomers. Many daily contest to see who could photograph the rocket through our home made telescopes. Many people world wide did so.
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syilla
01-21-2008, 06:17 AM
:salamext:

I'm still waiting if anyone can live there.... :X
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Woodrow
01-21-2008, 07:58 AM
Originally Posted by syilla
:salamext:

I'm still waiting if anyone can live there.... :X
Only if they bring a life time supply of food, water, air and can shield themselves from the constant bombardment of Gamma and X rays, Ultra violet light, Extreme temperatures and other little draw backs.

Nice place to visit, but very difficult to find a job there.
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