Questions on Malaysia and Malaysians, answered by Malaysians.

[north_malaysian]

:sl:

Anybody with questions about Malaysia and Malaysians, kindly ask your questions here...

[Woodrow]

Along time back there was a form of English spoken throughout Malaysia, Malayan Pidgin English. It was introduced by the old sea traders. What was unusual about it is it was readily understood by anybody that knew just a few words of English. Very fast language to learn. Is it still ever used?

[north_malaysian]

Along time back there was a form of English spoken throughout Malaysia, Malayan Pidgin English. It was introduced by the old sea traders. What was unusual about it is it was readily understood by anybody that knew just a few words of English. Very fast language to learn. Is it still ever used?

Wow... this is a question that all of us new generation Malaysians dont really know....

The old generation people living in the straits settlements (ie. Penang, Malacca and Singapore) do have the ability of understanding English language even they dont really speaking English... But seriously I never heard of "Malayan Pidgin English".

My parents generation (post-independence) which have their schoolyears in the 60s, are the best English speaker generation ever in Malaysia as most of the schools still using English as medium of instructions. They learnt everything in English excluding Malay Language and Islamic Studies. (During their time, Islamic Studies is just an elective subject, which all Malaysian students can choose either to lear about Islam or taking Art classes, sadly most Muslims preferred Art not Islamic Studies)

In 1980s, Malayanization of the school education system started that we have to learn everything in Malay, with exception to English classes.

Thus, now the new generation of Malaysians are not really as good as previous generation when it comes to speaking English.

But thanks to the TV, radio stations, newspaper, magazines and the internet MAJORITY of the younger Malaysians are AT LEAST exposed to English language.

But many Malaysians claim that we have our own English slang called "Manglish" or "Malaysian English" which English language with lots of Malay, Chinese and Tamil words in it.

That's all I know... but thanks for asking...

[Chechnya]

In your experience do Malaysians generally practise Islam or not?

You never hear much about Malaysia. Are their any Islamic movements there?

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[north_malaysian]

In your experience do Malaysians generally practise Islam or not?

You never hear much about Malaysia. Are their any Islamic movements there?

Only 60% of the population are Muslims, majority (like 99% fast in the Ramadhan, but performing the daily five prayers it could be 70%, and 90% of muslima wears hijab)

Zillions of Islamic movements ... in fact Malaysia is the regional centre of Islamic missionary in Asia-Pacific region.

[Chechnya]

What about the government? Is it Islamic?

Are the laws and institutions based on Islam?

[Muslim Knight]

Malaysians consist of three major races and minor ethnicities. The three major races are Malay, Chinese, Indian. The Malays were majorly Muslims but the other two are free to practise their respective religions.

Parti Se-Islam Malaysia (PAS) or The Islamic Party of Malaysia fights in the political arena for the establishment of an Islamic State. There are a number of Muslim NGOs as well for example Angkatan Belia Islam Malaysia (ABIM) or known internationally as the Muslim Youth Movement Malaysia for which I am a member, Jamaah Islah Malaysia (JIM), Darul Fitrah and others.

The Federal Constitution of Malaysia names a Malay as someone who;

1. Speaks Malay
2. Muslim
3. Conforms to the customs & traditions of the Malays

[north_malaysian]

What about the government? Is it Islamic?

First of all, ISlam is the Official religion of the Country.

The ruling party, UMNO claims Malaysia is an Islamic nation.

But the ISlamist opposition, PAS claims Malaysia is a secular county.

Are the laws and institutions based on Islam?

We have Shariah Court which deals on personal matters and some criminal cases involving Muslims like sex offence, liquor drinking, gambling, apostacy..

But basically Malaysian laws derived from British common law.

[Goku]

:sl:

How religious are Malaysians in general?

E.g in Pakistan, the general population see Islam as an integral and very important part of their lives.

[Goku]

And also do the Majority Malay Muslims prefer secular or Shariah Law?

Jazak Allah Khair.

[north_malaysian]

And also do the Majority Malay Muslims prefer secular or Shariah Law?

Jazak Allah Khair.

Only one state is ruled by Islamists, obviously the Muslims prefer nationalists than Islamists..

[Goku]

Only one state is ruled by Islamists, obviously the Muslims prefer nationalists than Islamists..

I see.

What about your personal view, Shariah or nationalist/secular?

[Keltoi]

Are there elephants in Malaysia?

[north_malaysian]

I see.

What about your personal view, Shariah or nationalist/secular?

1) Nationalists - I really hate them so much

2) Islamists - It's hard for them to establish an Islamic state because our parliament allocation seats is about 50% Muslims, 50% Non Muslims.

Plus, my parliament and state assembly constituencies are Non Muslim majority seats....

So.... I just dont know.... maybe I should support the Reformists (they have good relationship with ISlamists and Socialists)

[north_malaysian]

Are there elephants in Malaysia?

yes.

Kuala Gandah Elephants Sanctuary in Pahang, Malaysia

[Woodrow]

I looked up Manglish, because that sounded very much like a Malayan Pidgin English word. I found this in wiki:

Pure Manglish however can be likened to pidgin English, and it is usually barely understandable to most speakers of English, except Singaporeans who also speak a similar patois known as Singlish.

It appears that the old Pidgin English has become the modern Manglish. They used to teach Malayan Pidgin to US sailors that might end up in Malaysia as back in the 1940s nearly everybody in Malaysia (wasn't called Malaysia then, but in the USA the people were refered to as Malaysians) understood it. It is quite a language that the Malaysians developed to do commerce with English speaking people. It consisted of only about 500 words that could be put together to form ideas. I still remember a little bit. I remember to distinguish between people they only used 3 words. boy, girl and man so you ended up with boy (male child) girl(female child) man(all people) boy-man (adult male) girl-man(adult female). That is roughly how the language formed. The ingenuity of the Malaysians always amazed, at the ability to form very complex thoughts, easily understandable and requiring only learning a very minimal amount of foreign words.

Is it my imagination, but has Malaysia really bolted foreward in a recent jump at industrialization and how is this affecting the people?

[Skillganon]

I see.

What about your personal view, Shariah or nationalist/secular?

Brother, I do not doubt brother NorthMalaysian desire's anything other than Islam.
Inshallah, the guidance in the country will increase, aswell as in pakistan and bangladesh.

I am in the mind to believe malaysia has a very good Islamic presence and practiced very well, and better than other country for example Bangladesh.

[Goku]

1) Nationalists - I really hate them so much

2) Islamists - It's hard for them to establish an Islamic state because our parliament allocation seats is about 50% Muslims, 50% Non Muslims.

Plus, my parliament and state assembly constituencies are Non Muslim majority seats....

So.... I just dont know.... maybe I should support the Reformists (they have good relationship with ISlamists and Socialists)

Salam, thats interesting to know. I had heard Malaysa is a country where religious freedom thrives, but to allocate half the parliament seats to a minority and have minority as controlling parliament in your area (for the time being) it shows how Malaysians are tolerant. Still its better to have Muslim majority in parliament in my view.

Jazak Allah Khair.

[Goku]

Brother, I do not doubt brother NorthMalaysian desire's anything other than Islam.
Inshallah, the guidance in the country will increase, aswell as in pakistan and bangladesh.

I am in the mind to believe malaysia has a very good Islamic presence and practiced very well, and better than other country for example Bangladesh.

Insha'Allah and Ameen.

[Muslim Knight]

And also do the Majority Malay Muslims prefer secular or Shariah Law?

Jazak Allah Khair.

While the Federal Constitution enshrines Islam as the official religion, Malaysia really inherited secular common laws from its British former colonial masters after having achieved independence in 1957. However, sharia laws only govern majorly the inheritance & matrimonial rights for Malay Muslims. Non-Muslims are still subject to civil laws.

[north_malaysian]

Is it my imagination, but has Malaysia really bolted foreward in a recent jump at industrialization and how is this affecting the people?

In the 80s, when we learn about Malaysia's economy ... it was like Malaysia is the largest producer of rubber, tins, palm oil in the world, but just a decade after, Manufacturing became the main source of Malaysia's economy ... i think like 80% of the economy. In fact, many rubber and palm estates were destroyed to make way for factories. While the tin mining areas turned into recreational places. Supposingly, in 2020 Malaysia would be Industrial developed nation no longer a developing nation.

The people, Yes we change too much. Parents are encouraging their kids to learn IT, youngsters very keen on latest gadgets, westernisation is going VERY WELL....

Because all of these happen too fast ... that's why, especially among the Nationalists and Islamists there are lots of concerns about westernisation of the Malays. But I think the Non Muslims tolerate this changes.

Until now, 49 years after independence... Malaysians are asking that are we divided or united?.... it's a question hard to answer ... even by me.

While Malaysians can enjoy eating food of different cultures, having friends among other ethnic groups, but still there are lots of prejudice among us...

[north_malaysian]

Brother, I do not doubt brother NorthMalaysian desire's anything other than Islam.

Islam is the way... the ONLY way for me...

[north_malaysian]

Still its better to have Muslim majority in parliament in my view.

But.... even if we have Muslim majority in the Parliament... but if they behave unIslamically ... it's still no better.

[blunderbus]

What is the school system like? Are there a lot of colleges and universities? Is it public or private? Anything else about the educational system.

[north_malaysian]

While the Federal Constitution enshrines Islam as the official religion, Malaysia really inherited secular common laws from its British former colonial masters after having achieved independence in 1957. However, sharia laws only govern majorly the inheritance & matrimonial rights for Malay Muslims. Non-Muslims are still subject to civil laws.

Good explanation...

If you open the Federal Constitution ... there is no words such as 'Allah' or 'God' inside it... and Federal Constitution is THE HIGHEST LAW OF THE LAND... it's stated inside Fed. Consti.

When I was in Constitutional Law class, Islamists were saying that it's 'shirk' to say so

[north_malaysian]

What is the school system like? Are there a lot of colleges and universities? Is it public or private? Anything else about the educational system.

We have both public and private education systems.

1) Kindergarten period (4 - 6 yrs old) - it's optional, but majority of children were enrolled in kindergartens nationwide as early as 4 yrs old.

2) Primary School Period (7 - 12 yrs old) - it's obligatory. It's a crime if you dont send your kids to school. We started with Standard One (for 7 yrs old) and ended with Standard Six (12 yrs old). At the end of Standard Six we would be having a nationwide examination called UPSR. All of these kids mus sit for Malay Language, English Language, Science an Mathematics papers. It's important to score all subjects with 'A's if you want to further study in the best secondary schools.

3) Secondary School Period (13 - 17 years old) - it's also obligatory. It starts with Form 1 (for 13 years old) to Form 5 (17 yrs old).
In Form 3, there would be another nationwide exam called PMR. You have to score as many 'A's as possible to be maintained or further admitted to best secondary schools.

In Form 5, SPM (equivalent to UK's O-Level) IS THE ULTIMATE exam for Malaysian students ... it's the paper that could give you a place in the university or ended up working in factory.

4) Pre University Level - for those who excelled in the SPM, they'll go for pre university education such as Matriculation etc.... or they can stay at secondary schools taking STPM papers.

We have many type of public schools:

Primary Schools
1) Sekolah Kebangsaan (formerly known as Malay schools, Malay is used as medium of instructions)

2) Sekolah Rendah Kebangsaan (now abolished and called as Sekolah Kebangsaan, formerly know as English school, English as medium of instructions)

3) Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan Cina (formerly known as Chinese school, Mandarin as medium of instructions)

4) Sekolah Rendah Jenis Kebangsaan Tamil (formerly known as Indian school, Tamil as medium of instruction)

Seconday Schools
1) Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan (Malay as medium of instructions)

2) Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Cina (Mandarin as medium of instructions)

3) Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Tamil (Tamil as medium of instructions)

4) Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Agama (Islamic school)

5) Sekolah Menengah Sains (Science stream school)

6) Sekolah Menengah Teknik (Technical school)

7) Sekolah Menengah Vokasional (Vocational training school)


We have tens of universities and hundreds of colleges.

[north_malaysian]

And we have to wear school uniforms at public schools:

[Muslim Knight]

And we have to wear school uniforms at public schools:

Okayyyy... which one is your niece? :giggling:

[north_malaysian]

Okayyyy... which one is your niece? :giggling:

none of them have relationship with me... just took it from yahoo images search... :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

[Muslim Knight]

none of them have relationship with me... just took it from yahoo images search... :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

darn... :giggling:

[Skillganon]

Islam is the way... the ONLY way for me...

Amatlah saya besetuju dengan kenyataan ini

[north_malaysian]

Some local news in Malaysia today (16.11.2006):

POLICE OFFICERS JOINTLY CHARGED FOR MURDERING MONGOLIAN MODEL
C/Insp Azilah Hadri and Kpl Sirul Azhar Umar were jointly charged with the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu, 28, between 10pm on Oct 19 and 1am on Oct 20 in Mukim Bukit Raja, Shah Alam.

HELP FIGHT GRAFT IN UMNO (UNITED MALAY NATIONAL ORGANIZATION)
Come forward if you have the evidence and help fight money politics and corruption in UMNO, appeals Pak Lah (Malaysian Prime Minister)

NOTHING NEW, SAYS MUKHRIZ MAHATHIR
Claiming it offerred nothing new, Datuk Mukhriz Mahathir said he was a "little bit" dissapointed with UMNO presidential speech.

WE WERE MISUNDERSTOOD
We were misunderstood, say MIC (Malaysian Indian Congress) president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu and Gerakan deputy president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon, who were lambasted at the UMNO Youth assembly on Tuesday.

TWO HELD AFTER FATAL HEIST
Four hours after a gems shop heist left two security guards dead, police arrested two men and seized firearms at a roadblock in Banting yesterday.

QUERIES ANSWERED ONLINE
Queries on scholarships and pensioms by students and retirees respectively can now be conducted online.

CLEANER HURT IN BOMB BLAST
A home-made bomb exploded at Medan Kidd food court in Ipoh yesterday, injuring a city council cleaner, M. Krishnambal, 54.

Source: The Star, 16.11.2006

[north_malaysian]

Amatlah saya besetuju dengan kenyataan ini

Kindly translate it into English.....:okay:

[Muslim Knight]

Some local news in Malaysia today (16.11.2006):

POLICE OFFICERS JOINTLY CHARGED FOR MURDERING MONGOLIAN MODEL
C/Insp Azilah Hadri and Kpl Sirul Azhar Umar were jointly charged with the murder of Mongolian Altantuya Shaariibuu, 28, between 10pm on Oct 19 and 1am on Oct 20 in Mukim Bukit Raja, Shah Alam.

HELP FIGHT GRAFT IN UMNO (UNITED MALAY NATIONAL ORGANIZATION)
Come forward if you have the evidence and help fight money politics and corruption in UMNO, appeals Pak Lah (Malaysian Prime Minister)

NOTHING NEW, SAYS MUKHRIZ MAHATHIR
Claiming it offerred nothing new, Datuk Mukhriz Mahathir said he was a "little bit" dissapointed with UMNO presidential speech.

WE WERE MISUNDERSTOOD
We were misunderstood, say MIC (Malaysian Indian Congress) president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu and Gerakan deputy president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon, who were lambasted at the UMNO Youth assembly on Tuesday.

TWO HELD AFTER FATAL HEIST
Four hours after a gems shop heist left two security guards dead, police arrested two men and seized firearms at a roadblock in Banting yesterday.

QUERIES ANSWERED ONLINE
Queries on scholarships and pensioms by students and retirees respectively can now be conducted online.

CLEANER HURT IN BOMB BLAST
A home-made bomb exploded at Medan Kidd food court in Ipoh yesterday, injuring a city council cleaner, M. Krishnambal, 54.

Source: The Star, 16.11.2006

Judging from what I read in our daily newspaper, it is clearer to me that the world (or at least my own country) is getting more and more dangerous each day. I don't know how I can be safe when even the police allow themselves to be used as 'mercenaries' to 'take care' one's 'misconduct', especially those who have links with the dominant political power.

[Skillganon]

Same in bangladesh. Lucky I don't live their.

[Muslim Knight]

Same in bangladesh. Lucky I don't live their.

Poor Banglas. Lucky you don't live there. Might make things worse for them. Hehehehe... ;D;D;D

[north_malaysian]

Judging from what I read in our daily newspaper, it is clearer to me that the world (or at least my own country) is getting more and more dangerous each day. I don't know how I can be safe when even the police allow themselves to be used as 'mercenaries' to 'take care' one's 'misconduct', especially those who have links with the dominant political power.

politicians are "tutt....tutt..tuttt....." :grumbling

[north_malaysian]

Poor Banglas.

Ehemmmm..... racist!!!!!! :okay:

[Asyur an-Nagi]

is doctor M having a big time post power syndrome?

[Muslim Knight]

Ehemmmm..... racist!!!!!! :okay:

Actually, I'm a fan. Some Banglas at a petrol station actually helped me clean the windshield of my car after some bozos stuck some notes with strong glue. They have my utmost gratitude. But I've never said "Banglas!" in hateful tone nor do I have negative perception about them. I even have a Bangla friend working in the campus foodcourt where I always frequented. His previous Arab employer closed down his Mediterranean delicacies and he inherited the shoplot and now sells Nasi Kandaq which is my favorite during lunch.

Their appearance and dressing styles often amuse a Malaysian like me, but I think they are very hard-working people.

[north_malaysian]

is doctor M having a big time post power syndrome?

[BANANA]YES!!![/BANANA]

[north_malaysian]

Actually, I'm a fan. Some Banglas at a petrol station actually helped me clean the windshield of my car after some bozos stuck some notes with strong glue. They have my utmost gratitude. But I've never said "Banglas!" in hateful tone nor do I have negative perception about them. I even have a Bangla friend working in the campus foodcourt where I always frequented. His previous Arab employer closed down his Mediterranean delicacies and he inherited the shoplot and now sells Nasi Kandaq which is my favorite during lunch.

Their appearance and dressing styles often amuse a Malaysian like me, but I think they are very hard-working people.

:okay:

[Asyur an-Nagi]

[BANANA]YES!!![/BANANA]

ahahahahaha! dang, i thought it was just me:D i was one of his fans. i read his malay dilemma many-many times. but now things turn so sour for him. may Allah guide him.

[north_malaysian]

ahahahahaha! dang, i thought it was just me:D i was one of his fans. i read his malay dilemma many-many times. but now things turn so sour for him. may Allah guide him.

The whole nation feel the same...

[Asyur an-Nagi]

The whole nation feel the same...

i thought that abdullah ahmad badawi was the yin to mahathir's yang. pak lah is calm and deep to balance mahathir's tongue. but power is an opium of life sometimes.

[north_malaysian]

i thought that abdullah ahmad badawi was the yin to mahathir's yang. pak lah is calm and deep to balance mahathir's tongue. but power is an opium of life sometimes.

Both of them do really have DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES...

If Malaysia going to invade a country, Mahathir is suitable for it, when he talks he makes sure people listen....

[north_malaysian]

LOCAL NEWS FROM MALAYSIA (17.11.2006)

FAMOUS POLITICAL ANALYST CHARGED OF ABETTING COPS IN MURDER OF MONGOLIAN WOMAN
Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda has been charge with abetting in the gruesome murder of Mongolian beauty Altantuya Shaaribuu.
THE CHARGE: "That you between 9.54am and 11.50am on Oct 18 at Level 10, Bangunan Getah Asli, 148, Jalan Ampang, Kuala Lumpur did abet Azilah Hadri and Sirul Azhar Umar to commit murder against Altantuya Shaaribuu, an offence under Section 109 pf the Penal Code read together with Section 302 of the same code.

NIK AZIZ'S SUCCESSION
Kelantan Chief Minister Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat, 76, will be replaced after the next general election, PAS (Pan Malaysia Islamic Party) announced.

FORGERY PENALTY
It's no circus act when Canadian circus performer Martin Ivach was jailed a total of 41 years for possession of forged and blank credit cards.

GENERATIONAL LOANS
Parents burdened with housing loans could take relief wuth plans to have two-generation joint loans.

RM 24,000 GAME'S UP
A Malaysian blew up RM24,000 just for a chance to take part in the Betfair Asian Poker Tour Singapore.

FANCY FUND-RAISING
Mount Miriam Hospital in Penang got a RM73,000 boost from fairies and ghouls, among others. More than 340 people dressed in fancy costumes took part in the charity walkathon.

Source: The Star (17.11.2006)

[Muslim Knight]

FAMOUS POLITICAL ANALYST CHARGED OF ABETTING COPS IN MURDER OF MONGOLIAN WOMAN
Political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda has been charge with abetting in the gruesome murder of Mongolian beauty Altantuya Shaaribuu.
THE CHARGE: "That you between 9.54am and 11.50am on Oct 18 at Level 10, Bangunan Getah Asli, 148, Jalan Ampang, Kuala Lumpur did abet Azilah Hadri and Sirul Azhar Umar to commit murder against Altantuya Shaaribuu, an offence under Section 109 pf the Penal Code read together with Section 302 of the same code.

Source: The Star (17.11.2006)

I was struck appalled when facing the fact that this guy could've been involved in such gruesome crime. I remember watching his talk show years ago when I was a young teenager.

But why did the court charge him with "abetting" in murder? The police officers have no motive for murder but he has. I'm guessing those two officers were just poltroons in this case.

[north_malaysian]

I was struck appalled when facing the fact that this guy could've been involved in such gruesome crime. I remember watching his talk show years ago when I was a young teenager.

But why did the court charge him with "abetting" in murder? The police officers have no motive for murder but he has. I'm guessing those two officers were just poltroons in this case.

We have to wait for the trial, to se why....

But, if they want to kill a WOMAN, why they need to BOMB her after SHOOTING her.... crazy man!!!

[syilla]

:sl:

i thought he is already been charged...

anyway too much scandal...(same with the other cases)...i'm fed up with these sort of news.

[Muslim Knight]

We have to wait for the trial, to se why....

But, if they want to kill a WOMAN, why they need to BOMB her after SHOOTING her.... crazy man!!!

To get rid of the evidence obviously. It's like they've been taking hints from TV crime series. Which is why TV is so bad! And some people can give such clever remark saying that the population is clever and can be selective of what we want to see in the TV. What a load of crap. Where else would people get such cute idea to carry out similarly horrendous crimes? The library??

[north_malaysian]

:sl:

i thought he is already been charged...

anyway too much scandal...(same with the other cases)...i'm fed up with these sort of news.

charged didnt mean that he's guilty.... but his lawyers are confident that they can make him acquitted .... just like Noritta case.... furthermore, he's charged under ABETTING only ... hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt...

[north_malaysian]

To get rid of the evidence obviously. It's like they've been taking hints from TV crime series. Which is why TV is so bad!

Hey ... I really love CSI...

And some people can give such clever remark saying that the population is clever and can be selective of what we want to see in the TV. What a load of crap.

How many parents really care of those 18 PL, 18 SG, 18 SX? Plus, it's so easy to obtain those gross DVDs like Cannibal Holocaust, Eaten Alive, Dead Alive, Shocking Asia, Shocking etc.... and should I mention porno CDs ... it can be obtain at any "pasar malam" (nightmarket).

Where else would people get such cute idea to carry out similarly horrendous crimes? The library??

Library.... what a joke!!!:giggling: Even university students dont really go to library....

But internet.. is another alternative to tv channels.

[Muslim Knight]

Library.... what a joke!!!:giggling: Even university students dont really go to library....

I meant it as a sarcastic remark. :rollseyes

But internet.. is another alternative to tv channels.

Aahh... but with internet you can be truly selective. You'd have to enter addresses and search for stuffs. The TV, you just switch it on and it's there. Once it has taken hold on you, the pull makes it almost impossible to switch to another educational channel, much less switch the thing off. But I agree with your point that it is easy to obtain illegal stuffs to watch these days. Sadly. :cry:

[north_malaysian]

But I agree with your point that it is easy to obtain illegal stuffs to watch these days. Sadly. :cry:

And the cheapest is in Penang... I dont know why? Do you know that you can obtain porno mags in Penang?

[Siti Hanisah]

hmm can't u guys talk abt other thing such as hmm what???
may be abt this Malaysia needs an islamic channel...hehe

[Muslim Knight]

And the cheapest is in Penang... I dont know why? Do you know that you can obtain porno mags in Penang?

A few weeks ago I remember reading the Kosmo newspaper stating that some of these mags were even approved by the KDN (Home Ministry). Apparently what's been illegal and forbidden before are now deemed fit for people to read and watch.

Whenever I try to speak up about this (yes, I do speak up in forum whenever I'm invited) there goes this smart chap who will give clever remarks like, "Oh we Malaysians are more mature now to be able to be selective of what we read and watch in TV and magazines..." :rollseyes

I'm against this remark in total. Singular, individual persons maybe intelligent but the masses aren't. A group of people tend to be as dumb as the dumbest person in that group. How else can we explain the increasing rate of crimes in our country?

When the movie Remp-It (about illegal motorcycle racing and the lifestyles of the street racers) came out I feared that it would lead to serious repercussions in the Malaysian society. Again I had to confront people who say that we should view the film as to explore the world of "mat rempits" (street-racing motorcyclists) and learn valuable lessons from it. Couple of weeks later we have increasing number of cases involving thefts, rapes and manslaughter by these "mat rempits". When are people going to learn that to fight sins we are never to glamorize sins?

Sometimes I feel like quoting my friend SirZubair, "It's not my fault that some people are idiots."

[north_malaysian]

When the movie Remp-It (about illegal motorcycle racing and the lifestyles of the street racers) came out I feared that it would lead to serious repercussions in the Malaysian society. Again I had to confront people who say that we should view the film as to explore the world of "mat rempits" (street-racing motorcyclists) and learn valuable lessons from it. Couple of weeks later we have increasing number of cases involving thefts, rapes and manslaughter by these "mat rempits". When are people going to learn that to fight sins we are never to glamorize sins?

Sometimes I feel like quoting my friend SirZubair, "It's not my fault that some people are idiots."

And yesterday Mat rempits attack a police station.....

How about movies like Gubra, Sepet and Spinning Gasing?

[Skillganon]

And yesterday Mat rempits attack a police station.....

How about movies like Gubra, Sepet and Spinning Gasing?

Wow, I never heard of these movies before. What is it about?

[Muslim Knight]

Wow, I never heard of these movies before. What is it about?

Love. Love. And more love. Malaysian movie-makers can't make films other than about love. The only twist they were capable of introducing (for example in the movies mentioned) is the story about love between a Malay girl and a Chinese boy. :rolleyes:

I just can't show support for local film industry. It sucks. Whenever someone criticizes about them those directors just jeer back at him/her saying, "Jealous! Jealous!"

[north_malaysian]

Love. Love. And more love. Malaysian movie-makers can't make films other than about love. The only twist they were capable of introducing (for example in the movies mentioned) is the story about love between a Malay girl and a Chinese boy. :rolleyes:

I just can't show support for local film industry. It sucks. Whenever someone criticizes about them those directors just jeer back at him/her saying, "Jealous! Jealous!"

;D ;D ;D

[Muslim Knight]

You like that? I'm working on my own series of novels and perhaps in the near future I hope to direct my own films. My first one;

Nasi Bertaburan (Strewn Rice) tells us the story about a Malay stall-operator Ramli and a Chinese hawker Hong Chin who vie each other for customers. The problem is that they both sell Nasi Kandar. Ever heard of a Chinese Nasi Kandar seller? No? In this movie you will. While their competition is one of friendly in nature, they are faced with another problem. Their children literally hate each other, constantly calling each other names like "Tak Bersunat" (uncircumcised) and challenging each other to certain daring things kissing a plastic bag containing haram meat products and throwing fireworks into a masjid at the 1st night of Ramadan. Things get a little bit complicated when Hong Chin's eldest son came back from studying overseas only to find he cannot compete with Ramli's local educated eldest daughter's mastery of English language. And this time they won't fall for each other because they literally hate each other. This movie will shock you to no end as to the hilarious reality of the Malaysian society. Expect a ban from the censorship board.

[north_malaysian]

You like that? I'm working on my own series of novels and perhaps in the near future I hope to direct my own films. My first one;

Chinese nasi kandar sellers do exist ... in Penang.

If I have the opportunity to produce film, I'll do movies about pre-WWII scene in Penang... where people can live together... and I would highlight extinct communities like Penangite Jews, Penangite Armenians and Penangite Persians.

[Mawaddah]

I just can't show support for local film industry. It sucks. Whenever someone criticizes about them those directors just jeer back at him/her saying, "Jealous! Jealous!"

'Jealous'

That seems to be the only reply that people in Malaysia can come up with when you disagree with so and so actor, or such and such movie, or so and so director/singer etc. Either Jealous or 'berfikiran kolot'.....something along those lines.

It's crazy! I frequent one or two Malay(sian) forums and I have to say that it's ridiculous the way they always accuse one another of this.

Personally, I think that the Malaysians are dropping more and more behind...their main focus (it seems) is just in the entertainment industry. I am disgusted at their programs/movies etc. Love, Love, Love and more Love.Hardly anything that will instigate good Islamic morals and character into the people. And then this Badawi seems to just go along with the flow and you see him going to this anugerah giving session and that one. Bad example I say.

And then recently...when Siti got the title of Datuk, I wonder what in the world did she do to acheive this title? Just because she's a singer?......
I really think this entertainment industry is getting a little out of hand in Malaysia.

Just my two cents.

[Skillganon]

Calling each other "uncircumcised" is so funny. I never have guessed.

[Mawaddah]

Calling each other "uncircumcised" is so funny. I never have guessed.

My mother says that when she was younger the Malay kids used to tease the Chinese kids because they didn't do Istinjaa also.

[Skillganon]

My mother says that when she was younger the Malay kids used to tease the Chinese kids because they didn't do Istinjaa also.

I must visit Malaysia, you guy's are so hilariouse ;D .

Do you guy'z speak english well enough that I will able to understand?

[Siti Hanisah]

Ahem istinjak means cleansing the (things) when you've finished in the toilet. I am trying to be more open.
NO BAD WORDS HERE

[Muslim Knight]

And then recently...when Siti got the title of Datuk, I wonder what in the world did she do to acheive this title? Just because she's a singer?......
I really think this entertainment industry is getting a little out of hand in Malaysia.

Somebody mentioned to me her career expanded the local music industry that more jobs are being created as a result, so she is really helping people get jobs. But titles conferred by Sultan of Pahang are plenty every year and there are Datuks everywhere now in Malaysia. This is a fact which I'm totally unfazed.

[Muslim Knight]

I must visit Malaysia, you guy's are so hilariouse ;D .

Do you guy'z speak english well enough that I will able to understand?

We understand enough English to accord you a Bangla treatment upon your arrival. Hehehe... joking! ;D;D;D

[north_malaysian]

Calling each other "uncircumcised" is so funny. I never have guessed.

Racism

[north_malaysian]

My mother says that when she was younger the Malay kids used to tease the Chinese kids because they didn't do Istinjaa also.

Racism... again

[north_malaysian]

I must visit Malaysia, you guy's are so hilariouse ;D .

Do you guy'z speak english well enough that I will able to understand?

VISIT MALAYSIA YEAR 2007

[north_malaysian]

We understand enough English to accord you a Bangla treatment upon your arrival. Hehehe... joking! ;D;D;D

Racism

[syilla]

Calling each other "uncircumcised" is so funny. I never have guessed.

oh my ...not just uncircumcised....there are much more

and true...they can be quite funny...

and the funny thing is...the non-muslims...and the muslims get offended too...eventhough it is the truth...or something they never did practise...

[Skillganon]

oh my ...not just uncircumcised....there are much more

and true...they can be quite funny...

and the funny thing is...the non-muslims...and the muslims get offended too...eventhough it is the truth...or something they never did practise...

Can you tell me some more?

[Muslim Knight]

Can you tell me some more?

I'd rather not. They're so butt-ugly you'd just be so turned off you wouldn't visit our lovely country. Best you experience those idiosyncrasies yourself.

[Skillganon]

Can you tell me about PAS?

[Muslim Knight]

Can you tell me about PAS?

Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS)

To this date, the only Islamic political party in Malaysia that still strives for an Islamic state. It has good rapport with Hamas and Ikhwanul Muslimin.

[Skillganon]

Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS)

To this date, the only Islamic political party in Malaysia that still strives for an Islamic state. It has good rapport with Hamas and Ikhwanul Muslimin.

Don't promote wikipedia, please. Don't you have a offical site, or what you know from your own knowledge?
Your experience?

[Muslim Knight]

Don't promote wikipedia, please. Don't you have a offical site, or what you know from your own knowledge?
Your experience?

http://www.parti-pas.org/

From my experience it is the most vocal of all opposition parties in Malaysia. It even heads the opposition front. It constantly attacks the ruling party UMNO for unIslamic practices in government. 1997 was the darkest moment in Malaysian political history following Anwar Ibrahim's sacking, during which PAS rallied behind him and demonstrated for his release when he was arrested and jailed for trumped-up charges of sodomy and corruption. That's all I can sum up right now.

[north_malaysian]

If you're interested about Islamist movement in Malaysia, maybe you can visit their harakahdaily homepage.

I am not a member of PAS, but I do read Harakah. It's the most liberal newspaper in Malaysia. I think it's the only newspaper that publish articles written by Israeli Jews. I think they support Naturei Kartei Jews too.

[Asyur an-Nagi]

how do malaysians see their neighbor indonesia?

[north_malaysian]

how do malaysians see their neighbor indonesia?

Almost all "Malays" in Malaysia have Indonesian ancestry. But from what I've seen, many "Malays" forgot about this.

The Indonesian guestworkers are treated as slaves by some Malays, and many Malays are not favourable to Indonesian citizens working here.

But, in the same time Malays appreciate Indonesia's music, movies and .. of course "sinetron" (Indonesian soap opera).

For me, Indonesians and other immigrants who live and work in Malaysia should be given "permanent resident" (PR) status after working more than 3 years in Malaysia, which they should have all rights like Malaysians have (including electing their representative to Malaysian parliament).

And when they got PR status for 3 years... they could be admitted as Malaysian citizens.

[Mawaddah]

Almost all "Malays" in Malaysia have Indonesian ancestry. But from what I've seen, many "Malays" forgot about this.

The Indonesian guestworkers are treated as slaves by some Malays, and many Malays are not favourable to Indonesian citizens working here.

But, in the same time Malays appreciate Indonesia's music, movies and .. of course "sinetron" (Indonesian soap opera).

For me, Indonesians and other immigrants who live and work in Malaysia should be given "permanent resident" (PR) status after working more than 3 years in Malaysia, which they should have all rights like Malaysians have (including electing their representative to Malaysian parliament).

And when they got PR status for 3 years... they could be admitted as Malaysian citizens.

And it amuses me and horrifies me also they way when everytime an Indonesian person does something wrong in Malaysia, the Malaysians will automatically say " Well what else can you expect from those types of people!! Indonesians are scum..so you get scum from them"

Last night my brother was talking to my Aunt, and he told her that he wanted to go to Indonesia...immediately my Aunt freaked out and hit the roof , She was like " No!!!! Indonesia is full of orang jahat!!"

Typical racism



What I observed though, is that the way Indonesians are treated in Malaysia, is the same way the Somali's/Ethiopians get treated in Yemen. I observed some really perverted and narrowminded thinking of the Yemeni's towards them whilst I was there......

My friend (who is Bahamian) Went to Yemen last year....She told me whilst she was walking on the street this man touched her from behind. When she turned around he made a gesture to follow him into an alley. He assumed that she was Somali just because of her dark skin, and thus a prostitute!!! Well my friend sure dealt that man a good one.

[north_malaysian]

Typical racism

I dont know how we could eradicate this kind of primitive mentality among Malaysians...

[starfortress]

Almost all "Malays" in Malaysia have Indonesian ancestry. But from what I've seen, many "Malays" forgot about this.

Yeah,thats explaining the names like Lebuh Acheh,Banting,Kampung Jawa,Kampung Kerinchi and many more..

[Skillganon]

I dont know how we could eradicate this kind of primitive mentality among Malaysians...

You can preach Islam :happy:

[north_malaysian]

Yeah,thats describes the names like Lebuh Acheh,Banting,Kampung Jawa,Kampung Kerinchi and many more..

I think there are many Kampung Jawa all over Malaysia, in Penang ... as I could remember... there are three Kampung Jawa's..

Penang has Lebuh Acheh (Achinese Street), Lebuh Armenia (Armenian Street), Jalan Yahudi (Jewish Road), Jalan Burmah (Burmese Road), Lorong Bangkok (Bangkok Lane), Jalan Scotland (Scotland Road), Kampung Benggali (Bengali village), Jalan Pattani (Pattani Road), Lebuh Chulia (Indian Muslim Street), Pantai Acheh (Achinese Beach), Batu Feringghi (Portuguese Rock), Kampung Jawa (Javanese Village), Kampung Melayu (Malay Village)

[Skillganon]

Edit:

[north_malaysian]

You can preach Islam :happy:

Sadly, many 'religious' muslims also do the same...

Because of handfuls of Indonesian criminals, the Malays are so prejudiced against the whole Indonesian community here.

[Skillganon]

Amazing. Does different Muslim ethincs inter-marry in Malaysia?

[syilla]

Amazing. Does different Muslim ethincs inter-marry in Malaysia?

sorry if nm or muslim knight...can't reply you. Now is the time for friday prayer...so they can only reply another 2 hours.

my reply won't be as good as nm...because i'm sure he'll come out with statistics numbers :happy:

actually...yeah...there's alot of different muslim ethnics intermarry in malaysia...and among non-muslims too...

malaysian are encouraged to intermarry... :happy:

actually if you come to malaysia...is not as easy as before to distinguish between malay, chinese or indian. :thankyou:

[Skillganon]

sorry if nm or muslim knight...can't reply you. Now is the time for friday prayer...so they can only reply another 2 hours.

my reply won't be as good as nm...because i'm sure he'll come out with statistics numbers :happy:

actually...yeah...there's alot of different muslim ethnics intermarry in malaysia...and among non-muslims too...

malaysian are encouraged to intermarry... :happy:

actually if you come to malaysia...is not as easy as before to distinguish between malay, chinese or indian. :thankyou:

You right You all look alike :okay:

It is now 05:13 am here in UK. I am going for my Fajr prayer now. Thank's for reminding me it's Friday.

[Asyur an-Nagi]

And it amuses me and horrifies me also they way when everytime an Indonesian person does something wrong in Malaysia, the Malaysians will automatically say " Well what else can you expect from those types of people!! Indonesians are scum..so you get scum from them"

Last night my brother was talking to my Aunt, and he told her that he wanted to go to Indonesia...immediately my Aunt freaked out and hit the roof , She was like " No!!!! Indonesia is full of orang jahat!!"

Typical racism



What I observed though, is that the way Indonesians are treated in Malaysia, is the same way the Somali's/Ethiopians get treated in Yemen. I observed some really perverted and narrowminded thinking of the Yemeni's towards them whilst I was there......

My friend (who is Bahamian) Went to Yemen last year....She told me whilst she was walking on the street this man touched her from behind. When she turned around he made a gesture to follow him into an alley. He assumed that she was Somali just because of her dark skin, and thus a prostitute!!! Well my friend sure dealt that man a good one.

thanks. i am so glad that we have that kind of support.

[Asyur an-Nagi]

Almost all "Malays" in Malaysia have Indonesian ancestry. But from what I've seen, many "Malays" forgot about this.

The Indonesian guestworkers are treated as slaves by some Malays, and many Malays are not favourable to Indonesian citizens working here.

But, in the same time Malays appreciate Indonesia's music, movies and .. of course "sinetron" (Indonesian soap opera).

For me, Indonesians and other immigrants who live and work in Malaysia should be given "permanent resident" (PR) status after working more than 3 years in Malaysia, which they should have all rights like Malaysians have (including electing their representative to Malaysian parliament).

And when they got PR status for 3 years... they could be admitted as Malaysian citizens.

yes. but we also thanks malaysians for helping my brothers and sisters who are working or residing there. back home to their kampong they can live their whole family with that income. thanks again:)

[Asyur an-Nagi]

I think there are many Kampung Jawa all over Malaysia, in Penang ... as I could remember... there are three Kampung Jawa's..

Penang has Lebuh Acheh (Achinese Street), Lebuh Armenia (Armenian Street), Jalan Yahudi (Jewish Road), Jalan Burmah (Burmese Road), Lorong Bangkok (Bangkok Lane), Jalan Scotland (Scotland Road), Kampung Benggali (Bengali village), Jalan Pattani (Pattani Road), Lebuh Chulia (Indian Muslim Street), Pantai Acheh (Achinese Beach), Batu Feringghi (Portuguese Rock), Kampung Jawa (Javanese Village), Kampung Melayu (Malay Village)

kampung melayu? wow, that is also a famous transportation station in Jakarta. not far from my residence:D

[north_malaysian]

You right You all look alike :okay:

It is now 05:13 am here in UK. I am going for my Fajr prayer now. Thank's for reminding me it's Friday.

Malaysian "Malays" are actually mixed people of various ethnic groups, lots of chinese looks like Malays too. The least intermarriage between ethnic groups are Indians.