Indonesia willing to send peacekeepers to Iraq

[sonz]

Mainly Muslim Indonesia expressed its willingness to send peacekeepers to war-torn Iraq and encourage other Muslim states to do the same.

Indonesia’s President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono told the U.S. President George W. Bush during his latest visit to Jakarta that any long-term solution in Iraq should include more countries than those currently involved.

The Indonesian President also told his American counterpart that national reconciliation and progress in rebuilding should decided the timetable for U.S. occupation forces to leave Iraq.

President Bush, who made no comment on the Indonesian suggestions after the Nov. 20 meeting, has opposed setting a timetable for withdrawal.

"For Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country, we cannot just take part in reading about it without doing anything. We cannot lay back. The international community has seen no sign on how to resolve this problem," Indonesian Foreign Minister Hassan Wirajuda said, according to Reuters.

"We are not just throwing around concepts. We are active in conducting efforts so that those concepts could be accepted by all parties," he said.

Asked whether Indonesia would send forces as part of a future peacekeeping mission in Iraq, Wirajuda said: "If we have that opportunity, why not?"

Mr. Wirajuda also said that Indonesia would be willing to convince other Muslim nations to follow suit.

Indonesia and the U.S. are in accord on many issues, but some policies by the Bush administration, especially in the Middle East, are unpopular in the country of 220 million, 85% of them Muslims.

Jakarta has consistently criticized the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, and many Indonesians are angry over the U.S.’s military actions in mainly-Muslim Iraq and Afghanistan.

Earlier this week, thousands of Indonesians staged protests ahead of Bush’s visit to their country. "Essentially, we all agree that Bush is a murderer in the eyes of Muslims across the world,” said a demonstrator and a member of the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI).

In Jakarta, people marched to the presidential palace carrying posters that read "Punish Bush the war criminal" and "Bush master terrorist".

-- AJP and Agencies

[Dawud_uk]

assalaamu alaykum,

if they go there as part of an occupying army, either a US or a UN one then they are targets. the fataawah of ibn taymiyyah are very clear on situations like this.

assalaamu alaykum,
Abu Abdullah

[north_malaysian]

If they went there as peacekeepers, after US get out of Iraq... other Muslim nations should do the same.

But if they just join the multinational army led by America..... that's not good.

[Dawud_uk]

keeping the peace for what?

a secular state and fighting against their brothers and sisters who are fighting for shariah law and an islamic state?

Abu Abdullah

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[Goku]

I dont think they should go, they may become the target of the Iraqi resistance fighters, basically the US pulls out and Muslim nations pull in to fight on behalf of the US, a big NO.

Unless the Iraqi resistance fighters come to a deal for peace if Indonesia and other Muslim nations intervene.

[IzakHalevas]

Do muslims who kill fellow Muslims not get hell fire accoridng to the Quran?

[Skillganon]

I agree if they do go their, they should fight the crusaders and the occupiers.

[Keltoi]

I agree if they do go their, they should fight the crusaders and the occupiers.

Crusaders? Why do people still insist on using this completely moronic label? Do you even know what Crusaders are? To be a "Crusader" one would have to be part of an army sanctioned by the Catholic Church to fight a holy war. This word is simply propoganda used by extremists. Call them Americans, British, etc...call them "occupiers" if you feel the need, but falling back on this tired old label is pointless.

[Skillganon]

Crusaders? Why do people still insist on using this completely moronic label? Do you even know what Crusaders are? To be a "Crusader" one would have to be part of an army sanctioned by the Catholic Church to fight a holy war. This word is simply propoganda used by extremists. Call them Americans, British, etc...call them "occupiers" if you feel the need, but falling back on this tired old label is pointless.

The word is the reflection of what they are if they percieve it or not.

[Keltoi]

The word is the reflection of what they are if they percieve it or not.

aww...interesting. ^o)

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Do muslims who kill fellow Muslims not get hell fire accoridng to the Quran?

Yes, they will be punished. But only temporarily until they're punishment is done. That is unless they repent for their actions. Temporarily because they didnt leave the fold of Islam.

[north_malaysian]

Do muslims who kill fellow Muslims not get hell fire accoridng to the Quran?

A Muslim who kill another Muslim intentionally ... deserved to be killed.

If he escaped the death punishment on earth, he would be thrown to the hellfire in the hereafter.

But as Tayyaba said, for people who have a firmed belief in Islam, their days in the hell would be calculated... let say a Muslim killed another Muslim and escaped punishment. And for that God gave judgment that he would spent like 10,000 years in hell ... thus, after he finished his 10,000 years in hell.. he will be ascended to the lowest heaven.

But for non-Muslims, it'll be one way ticket to the hell.

[Dawud_uk]

Crusaders? Why do people still insist on using this completely moronic label? Do you even know what Crusaders are? To be a "Crusader" one would have to be part of an army sanctioned by the Catholic Church to fight a holy war. This word is simply propoganda used by extremists. Call them Americans, British, etc...call them "occupiers" if you feel the need, but falling back on this tired old label is pointless.

yeah used by extremists like George Bush and other neo-cons

[Asyur an-Nagi]

guyz, i don't think ma' president is stupid enough to send our troops as targets. they merely sent to perform a humanitarian and peacekeeping acts. once the el presidente send our tough guys for a wrong purpose, he is done. thats my point on the rumors that spreads here.

[north_malaysian]

once the el presidente send our tough guys for a wrong purpose, he is done.

One thing that made me admiring the Indonesians, is that they really practice Democracy... and are given full opportunity to practice it.

[Asyur an-Nagi]

One thing that made me admiring the Indonesians, is that they really practice Democracy... and are given full opportunity to practice it.

the practice of democracy happens to be exist recently, brother. before this we lived under repressive regime. but some indonesian translates the meaning of democracy wrongly as 'do whatever they want for whatever purposes'.
the president would communicates the whole idea about sending our troops there to our citizens before he makes any decision. otherwise he would harvest fierce critics and the previous presidents' downfall would be a walk in the park for him.

salaam brother:)

[Ahmed]

I don't know i have bad feels that this.

Iraqis don't not want any foreign troops does not matter muslim or non-muslim.


Peace!!!!!!!!!!

[Keltoi]

The situation in Iraq is much more complicated than "Iraqis don't like outsiders". The situation is one of self-interest. The Sunni in Iraq feel like they can't protect themselves from the Shiite majority, and here comes Al-Qaeda in Iraq to "protect" them. The Shiite and Sunni are picking sides to find an advantage. Doesn't matter whether it is an American force, Indonesian, Swedish, or Martian, it is just going to be an army with limited rules of engagment caught in the middle of a sectarian bloodbath.

[Asyur an-Nagi]

the idea of sending our troops is not an important topic anymore. we put it in the bottom list since it's better to keep our troops for humanitarian missions inside the country than sending them to a sectarian conflicts galore.

[Skillganon]

the idea of sending our troops is not an important topic anymore. we put it in the bottom list since it's better to keep our troops for humanitarian missions inside the country than sending them to a sectarian conflicts galore.

I think sending the troop's without any formal & strong communication with the variouse resistance will be detrimental to the Indonesian troops. As they do not trust foreign troops or their motives they might be seen as lackey's of the crusader's and hence be subject to attack. Or the crusaders very well might instigate one to seem it so.

It might very well be in the interest of the occupiers for such thing to happen, thus drawing in the indonesian troops in ther objective against the resistance.

[Keltoi]

I think sending the troop's without any formal & strong communication with the variouse resistance will be detrimental to the Indonesian troops. As they do not trust foreign troops or their motives they might be seen as lackey's of the crusader's and hence be subject to attack. Or the crusaders very well might instigate one to seem it so.

It might very well be in the interest of the occupiers for such thing to happen, thus drawing in the indonesian troops in ther objective against the resistance.

Yes, the U.S. has secret "Crusader" plans to draw the mighty Indonesian armed forces into Iraq to be allies against the honorable Mujahadeen who fight for the innocent and the greater glory of Islam. ;D

[Skillganon]

Yes, the U.S. has secret "Crusader" plans to draw the mighty Indonesian armed forces into Iraq to be allies against the honorable Mujahadeen who fight for the innocent and the greater glory of Islam. ;D

I did not say U.S had a secret plan.
I am saying it is more likely will draw the indonesian into an already torn down conflict.

[Woodrow]

the idea of sending our troops is not an important topic anymore. we put it in the bottom list since it's better to keep our troops for humanitarian missions inside the country than sending them to a sectarian conflicts galore.

A very sensible post and very true. Now if we can only convince our congressmen of that. Looks like we will just have to keep voting them out of office as they come up for re-election. Takes awhile as only 1/3 come up for re-election every 2 years.

[Asyur an-Nagi]

A very sensible post and very true. Now if we can only convince our congressmen of that. Looks like we will just have to keep voting them out of office as they come up for re-election. Takes awhile as only 1/3 come up for re-election every 2 years.

as far as i observe from our media, this issue is no more 'an issue'. almost 97 percent of our citizen know nothing about this, and this 'sending our troops somewhere in the middle of someone elses war' is hardly coming true.

we have too many small but potential conflicts in some regions namely poso, mataram, and aceh. and we have localized disasters such as gas pipes explosion and muds problem which would be responded by our soldier with noble humanitarian missions.

whatever comes true, Allah knows best. Salaam.