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MTAFFI
01-29-2007, 08:48 PM
Venezuela on the brink of change By IAN JAMES, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 15 minutes ago

CARACAS, Venezuela - Hugo Chavez has just about everything a president could want: popular support, a marginalized opposition, congress firmly on his side and a booming economy as he starts his new six-year term. Now, he's about to become even more powerful — the all-Chavista National Assembly is poised to approve a law as early as Wednesday enabling him to remake society by presidential decree. In its latest draft, the law would allow Chavez to dictate regulations for 18 months in 11 broad areas, from the "economic and social sphere" to the "transformation of state institutions."

Chavez calls it a new era of "maximum revolution," setting the tone for months of upheaval as he plans to nationalize companies, impose new taxes on the rich and refocus schools to teach socialist values. With near-religious fervor and plenty of oil wealth, Chavez is mobilizing millions of Venezuelans, intent on creating a more egalitarian society.

Already, profound changes can be seen throughout Venezuela. Those who felt left out of the old system are thrilled at the prospect of having a voice in politics. Others are horrified, seeing doors closing on their personal freedoms and a slide toward one-man rule.

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On a floodlit playground, neighbors meeting to discuss the new mechanics of power are feeling empowered by Chavez. As participants in a new Communal Council, they will get a direct say in spending on projects from public housing to better electricity to fixing potholes — decisions previously made by local governments.

"The country is headed for transformation, linked directly to all of us," Freddy Alvarez says into the microphone, describing the coming presidential decrees as a crucial step that will bring new "power to communities."

Each local council will get up to $56,000 in spending money this year, for a total of about $1.8 billion nationwide.

Not everyone in the crowd is a Chavez supporter, and the gathering in the working-class mountain town of El Junquito has the feel of a town hall meeting. But Chavez has publicly compared the councils to the people's assemblies or "soviets" formed during the Russian revolution.

"All of the power to the Communal Councils, power to the people," Chavez said in a recent speech. "It is the power of the revolution."

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Outside the Spanish Embassy, dozens line up with documents in hand. Many plan trips for tourism or study, but Henry Krakower is thinking darker thoughts. He wants a passport for his 10-year-old son in case they need to leave for good.

"I don't really know what all the coming changes are, but I don't think it's the best idea to give all the power to a single person for him to decide on my behalf," says Krakower, the son of a Polish concentration camp survivor who found a haven in Venezuela after World War II.

Government officials insist there will be total freedom of religion and speech and that private property will be safe, but the Krakowers aren't so sure. Listening for clues to what lies ahead, they worry about economic restrictions and ideology in education. At their son's private Jewish school, some parents are talking about how and when to leave the country.

"I think the president is going to do what he wants to do, because he will have all the power to decide on all things," Krakower says. "I think we're headed toward totalitarianism."

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In newspapers, full-page state ads list the five engines driving Chavez's self-styled revolution, from a "New Geometry of Power" to "Constitutional Reform" that could include ending presidential term limits.

"Nothing stops the revolution!" reads the ad, a sobering thought for the wealthy who live in walled enclaves, belong to exclusive golf clubs and dine at the best restaurants. Though Chavez insists he will respect private property, he plans a new "luxury" tax on everything from second homes to art collections, and the rich will undoubtedly feel the pinch.

For now, the economy is flush with oil money and business is brisk at Caracas shopping malls. But among whistle-blowing anti-Chavez protesters, middle-class retiree Teresa Cifontes grimaces at what she sees coming: "Within one year, complete communism."

Cifontes, 65, is so dismayed at the changes that she can't tolerate Chavez's admirers — even within her own family. Her nine brothers and sisters all used to attend family get-togethers, but now three no longer come because their Chavismo sparks heated arguments.

"They're blind," she says bitterly. "What he's forming is a dictatorship."

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Short of a drastic fall in global oil prices, there seems to be little that can stop these changes in Venezuela. The Supreme Court's president, Omar Mora Diaz, has welcomed Chavez's plan to legislate by decree. Street protests have been small and scattered, and the complaints of opposition politicians, left without a vote since boycotting 2005 congressional elections, are largely disregarded by the pro-Chavez majority.

Those who re-elected Chavez by a wide margin in December say Venezuela's democracy is healthier than ever.

"We couldn't have more democracy," says Danny Albarran, one of several women in the slum of San Juan who like what they're getting from this revolution: free meals for schoolchildren, free checkups from a Cuban doctor and a state-run fitness program for the elderly.

"The president's intentions are very good. He wants a country where everything functions well," says Lourdes Mujica, a disabled woman with rheumatoid arthritis who receives free treatment, adult education classes and monthly cash benefits of $238.

How much say the public will have in how Chavez uses the "enabling law" remains unclear, but lawmakers have been holding assemblies to gather public input.

"If there is no popular participation, there will be no socialism," lawmaker Dario Vivas said at one meeting. "Socialism is, definitively, giving power to the people."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070129/...a_on_the_brink

Seems like they are moving towards communism, not really sure how good that is, and I am not really very fond of Chavez, but as long as his people are happy then he must be doing a good job. Maybe when Bush is not president anymore he will be more inclined to have better relations with the US :D
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rav
01-30-2007, 04:50 AM
Yay a new tyrant with complete control over his people, to make every descion. I wonder if he will follow Hitler, or Stalins idealogy.
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north_malaysian
01-30-2007, 08:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by rav
Yay a new tyrant with complete control over his people, to make every descion. I wonder if he will follow Hitler, or Stalins idealogy.
or Robert Mugabe...
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Woodrow
01-30-2007, 09:23 AM
Oddly a few weeks back I was a very strong critic of Chavez I still am. However, I think he can do a lot of good for Venezuela. At various times I believe every south American country has toyed with Communism and/or dictatorships. Venezuela and Argentina have done so several times.

I still think Chavez has designs on being a dictator, becoming a very independant world nation and take over the role as a major oil source in the world.

He is not stupid. He knows that in order to have power he is going to have to enable the people in his country and raise their standard of living very rapidly. He has that power at his finger tips, with the Venezuelian oil fields. At this moment the Venezuelian Oil/gasoline company (CITGO) is one of the major selling brands of gasoline in the US. CITGO is the national petroleum company of venezuela. The American people would love to be able to stop having any use for petroleum from the mid-east. Chavez has the key to make that happen.

Right now Chavez is doing an excellent job at PR throughout the US Venezuela has donated one million gallons of heating oil to impoverished residents in our nothern states. CITGO is laying the ground work to be a recognized brand name.

I suspect that very shortly Venezuela will pull out of OPEC, drop it's crude oil prices to less than OPEC prices and corner the US market for Petroleum. This will give Venezuela almost instant wealth, it will also win him the support of the North American public as being the guy who returned low gasoline prices to America.
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north_malaysian
02-01-2007, 05:57 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow

This will give Venezuela almost instant wealth, it will also win him the support of the North American public as being the guy who returned low gasoline prices to America.
A very good PR move..
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cihad
02-01-2007, 08:46 AM
i like the fact that he says what he wants-esp about bush
ha ha
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Keltoi
02-01-2007, 01:38 PM
Most of the middle-class are scrambling to leave Venezuela. It will be interesting to see what reforms he puts in place with this new found presidential decree power. If his personality is any indication, I find this guy meeting an unfortunate end.
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Woodrow
02-01-2007, 01:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
Most of the middle-class are scrambling to leave Venezuela. It will be interesting to see what reforms he puts in place with this new found presidential decree power. If his personality is any indication, I find this guy meeting an unfortunate end.
The South American countries are well known to change leadership through the use of lead .45 Cal. Ballots. The voting booths are often rifles.
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Keltoi
02-01-2007, 01:52 PM
I don't want to demonize this guy, because if he actually does improve the lives of his people that is to be applauded. Most of my friends hate him because he called a President of the United States the "devil", and yes that annoys me, but I don't really take him seriously enough to get worked up about it. What really bothers me about Chavez is his meetings with Iran, North Korea, Cuba, etc. It is like he is trying to annoy the U.S. simply for the sake of annoying the U.S.
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soulsociety
02-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Not all socialism is communism. Not all Islamist movements are Al-Qaeda.
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Woodrow
02-01-2007, 02:06 PM
Chavez is in a unique posistion. At the moment he has the ability to lower gasoline prices throughout the Americas and at the same raise the economic wealth of his country to that comparable with Saudi Arabia.

He also has the ability to totaly destroy Venezueula economicaly.
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MTAFFI
02-01-2007, 02:53 PM
I think this guy could be one of the best things to happen to Venezuela, I know it sounds funny since he is obviously heading down the road to communism but the thing is, is you guys are right.. if Venezuela doesnt want it, and this guy annoys them I dont think it will be a .45 cal probably more like a .223 or if they really wanna close shop a .338.. In any case I hope he does well for his people, because I agree with Woodrow, I think he will be the one to drive down the price of gasoline for the US, and once Bush isnt in office I think, given the right president, there could be a lot better relations between the US and Venezuela. Although you always have to wonder, I mean he did actually call Bush "the Devil", I mean yeah Bush might not be the best president and has made some bad choices, but to say his is the "devil" just makes him look a little ridiculous and hard to take seriously.
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IzakHalevas
02-11-2007, 04:22 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
Most of the middle-class are scrambling to leave Venezuela. It will be interesting to see what reforms he puts in place with this new found presidential decree power. If his personality is any indication, I find this guy meeting an unfortunate end.
There will be no more middle class anyway. It will be like the economic system Northo Korea has soon.
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Pygoscelis
02-11-2007, 06:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by MTAFFI
Although you always have to wonder, I mean he did actually call Bush "the Devil"
I suggest you read the actual speech Chavez gave that the US press extracted this from. It was so twisted and taken out of context that it is laughable. I'm not a supporter of Chavez, I oppose all who strive for dictatorship, but I'm more concerned about how the US propaganda machine is working him over. It makes me very distrustful of the US leaders' speeches and the US media in general.
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MTAFFI
02-11-2007, 03:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis
I suggest you read the actual speech Chavez gave that the US press extracted this from. It was so twisted and taken out of context that it is laughable. I'm not a supporter of Chavez, I oppose all who strive for dictatorship, but I'm more concerned about how the US propaganda machine is working him over. It makes me very distrustful of the US leaders' speeches and the US media in general.
please provide a link, I dont think the US is working him over, when Bush isnt president the US could end up with very very good relations with venezuela
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