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[Heng Yu]

Peace be With You All!

My name is Adrian Chan-Wyles. I am a Buddhist, but I also study the religions of the world - and meditate with the White Robed Monks of St. Benedict - a gnostic Christian sect, that advocates mediatation as a valid path to God.

I live in the UK, and am disturbed by the general trend of 'Islamaphobia' that has spread through our society. Particularly of concern, is the racalisation of soceity, and the pre-judging of people of the Islamic faith.

Of course, I fully acknowledge the global perspective, and I understand the situation from both sides. But I think that peace resides in the centre of all this chaos.

I have a Qu'ran, and I read it regularly, and I understand and respect Islam, and I know that I am not a practicing Muslim in the traditional sense, but if I where, I think I would be a Sufi!

Thank you.

[Malaikah]

Hi

Welcome to the forum, I hope you benefit from it heaps!

Looking forward to your contributions.

[tomtomsmom]

Welcome to the forums!!

[Sabbir_1]

Welcome to the forum..

but if I where, I think I would be a Sufi!

Why would you be a sufi?

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[aljawaad]

Welcome n hve a beneficial stay

[shible]

That was a real good effort Bro, It takes more courage to Explore on various subjects despite of various issues in the society,

In India only a few tend to do it (as far as i know but i admit there are many things going around which i may not be aware of).

Right now i have started the habbit of Reasoning, but i have too much to explore, hope i would be accompanied by many new friends across various boundaries and Barriers.

Since you are a buddisht, I have a doubt to clarify

i was too fond of many stories of ZEN monks, they help us to relieve ourselves a bit,
but i felt that i was emptied for some reason , and then i felt myself very strange that when i tried to move my human organs they felt heavy.

have you ever felt the same way. Is there a reason for it

[Heng Yu]

Thank you all for your kind words of welcome and encouragement. I can not, with all good conscience, sit back and observe the injustice being perpetuated against fellow human beings, who happen to Muslim. My stance, I suppose, is more 'humanitarian' in motivation, but my humanitarianism springs directly from my spiritual practice.

And it si a tricky practice, trying to navigate around the conventions of the various religions in existence, trying not to cause unnecessary offense. My personal experience with Muslims, stems from a number of years living in and around a Muslim group whilst at university, and through my continued academic career. Research for the various aspects of Ph.D programmes, and general interest in Islam, has kept the contact going.

Some rhetoric elucidated by some Muslims, in definitely 'exclusionary' in nature. But this is exactly the same rhetoric of 'exclusion' that any group might use, to bulster its own sense of strength and correctness. On the other hand, many other Muslim people have just been open and friendly, and very civilised.

The reason for Sufism, is probably because I am a hopeless 'mystic'.

Thank you.

[Heng Yu]

That was a real good effort Bro, It takes more courage to Explore on various subjects despite of various issues in the society,

In India only a few tend to do it (as far as i know but i admit there are many things going around which i may not be aware of).

Right now i have started the habbit of Reasoning, but i have too much to explore, hope i would be accompanied by many new friends across various boundaries and Barriers.

Since you are a buddisht, I have a doubt to clarify

i was too fond of many stories of ZEN monks, they help us to relieve ourselves a bit,
but i felt that i was emptied for some reason , and then i felt myself very strange that when i tried to move my human organs they felt heavy.

have you ever felt the same way. Is there a reason for it

Thank you shible. My particular tradition is Chinese Ch'an, the fore-runner to Japanese Zen. But does emphasis meditation. Sustained meditation does indeed lead to many new and unusual 'feelings' of body, and 'insight' of Mind. Usually, all 'feelings' are gently 'removed' from the centre of awareness, so that the depth of the Mind might be seen clearly.

From an analytical perspective, all sensation, is just 'sensation' regardless of its origin, or feeling content. Meditation, like prayer, focuses the Mind in upon itself.

Thank you

[Heng Yu]

Transformative Psychology
http://cafe.noeticnetworks.org/cgi-b...wmode=threaded

The above link is to the Noetic Institute website, direct to my thread regarding spiritual development in society in general. It is an going project, but will give you a better understanding of the work I am involved with.

Thank you.

[ژاله]

welcome to the forum!!

[shible]

Thank you bro for the brief discussion

[Heng Yu]

Hi shible!

Thanks for reading! Meditation is also a matter of motivation - what exactly lies behind the effort involved? Buddhists will try to 'separate' sensations into there respective parts - but it is my experience that people from other religious backgrounds, will be using meditation for a specific purpose. Therefore, what is felt or experienced, will be a reflection of one's religious beliefs and aspirations.

Thank you

[Heng Yu]

I also am a professional author, writing articles for martial arts magazines, both the online and print editions. Here s one of my articles, as a matter of interest;

The Original Buddhism
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezin...hp?article=626

My interest stems from my own culture (Anglo-Chinese), and our family style of spiritually motivated martial arts, our small website is at;

Ch'an Dao Martial Arts Association
www.chandao.co.uk

Thank you

[Kittygyal]

welcome dude

[Heng Yu]

Thank you - sister!

[Kittygyal]

Thank you - sister!

me pleasure dude! :smile:

[- Qatada -]

Hey welcome! :) God willing you'll have a beneficial and enjoyable stay here.



Peace.

[~*MaNaL*~]

:welcome: to the forums.

[shible]

Hey bro

I have a doubt, how far is meditation is involved in martial arts.

since i knew that technique's like Tai-chi involve high level of balance that could be attained by concentration that is achieved by meditation.

but i wanna know wat else.

can a man be knocked out using thoughts or meditation

[Samira_01]

Welcome peace:)

[snakelegs]

[MOUSE]welcome![/MOUSE]
you should recognize my zennish nick.
i look forward to getting to know you. we have one buddhist, and can always use more.

[Pk_#2]

Hello :D

Welcome to the forum bro,

Hope you find it beneficial here,

Keep posting and stay active (God-willing)

Peace! :)

[north_malaysian]

On behalf of all Malaysian forummers here:

[BANANA]SELAMAT DATANG!!!
(WELCOME!!!)[/BANANA]

We already have Trumble, now we have two Buddhists here..... keep contributing your posts here....

And

GONG XI FA CHAI (HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR)

[Aisha20]

hi

welcome to Li Islamic Forums

peace =)

[Heng Yu]

Hi to you all!

Thank you for your support, friendship and kindness.

As regards meditation in the martial arts - I suspect that one or two of you might know about the Muslim martial arts of north China? Cha Chuan is one such style - the 'Cha' originating from the Persian 'Shah' of course. Many Arab Muslims stayed in China from about a thousand years ago. It is believed that many northern Chinese families with the name 'Ma', are descendents of these people, the word 'Ma' evolving from 'Mohammed' (peace be upon him).

Tan Tui - or 'Spring Leg' might be another. This style specialises in fast, accurate high, middle and low kicking, including 'jumping' kicks, hence the name. And of course, there are two groups of Muslims in China, the Hui and the Uighar. One is of Turkic origin (Uighar), the other of Arabic origin (Hui). Needless to say, they have their cultural differences with one another, and with the Chinese government. Most Uighars live in Xinjiang, northwest Chian, whilst the Hui have a autonomous zone in Ningxia:

Hui
http://berzinarchives.com/islam/hist...ims_china.html

Uighar
http://www.uyghurcongress.org/En/new...&cid=803688565

And whilst researching this information, I came across another, tiny ethnic Muslim group, living in Hainan (an island situated to the south of China):

Utsuls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsuls

My particular background is Hakka - 'Guest people', or so called by the southern Chinese - but the Chinese government do not acknowledge Hakka as an ethnic group, even though they have a distinct culture and language. But such is life. Incidently, my Y chromosome DNA report came this week, and my haplotype is E3B - originating in the Middle East, before spreading East and West. Many people with this haplotype live in Africa today, but also Iran, Iraq, Itlay and Greece, although in small numbers.

Thank you.

[Beblessed]

welcome :) have a nice stay

[Heng Yu]

I am not sure if this is of any interest to anyone, but thought that I would mention it anyway;

Buddhism of Muslims
http://www.newbuddhist.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9

Who knows, perhaps you can help with questions, etc.

Thank you

['Abd al-Baari]

Welocme to the forums, hope you have a good stay