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Muslim Woman
02-25-2007, 01:49 AM


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Reasons To Nuke The USA

By Yamin Zakaria



According to the doctrine of pre-emptive strike which the US has adopted since 9/11, it too can be subjected to a pre-emptive nuclear strike, as it poses a threat to other peaceful nations of the world.




The US has a sordid track record for using such weapons against civilians and it has constantly maintained a large stockpile of such weapons of mass destruction, and continuously develops them. There are additional reasons to nuke the US, however I have decided to highlight only seven.


http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle17163.htm

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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 02:22 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

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With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)

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Reasons To Nuke The USA

By Yamin Zakaria



According to the doctrine of pre-emptive strike which the US has adopted since 9/11, it too can be subjected to a pre-emptive nuclear strike, as it poses a threat to other peaceful nations of the world.




The US has a sordid track record for using such weapons against civilians and it has constantly maintained a large stockpile of such weapons of mass destruction, and continuously develops them. There are additional reasons to nuke the US, however I have decided to highlight only seven.


http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle17163.htm

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What you say does make sense.

But, the first major question would be where could you strike that would prevent retaliation? The US military has no central location. Each of the Branches of the military are capable of acting independently. A very large amount of the US retaliatory force is not located in the US. That which is located in the US is scattered throughout all 50 states.

Destruction of the Federal government will not create total anarchy as each state is capable of functioning on it's own. Plus the Federal government is not dependent on any single leader and the forces that do control the Federal government are seldom if ever in one location. To attack the US would be similar to attacking 50 separate countries at the same time.

Many can come up with justification for a pre-emptive first strike, but I would question the wisdom of anybody doing that.

The next problem is nearly every country in the world has a very large invested interest in the US. For most countries the US is either their biggest source of goods or their biggest customer for their exports.
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England
02-25-2007, 02:35 AM
Reasons not to nuke the USA.

USA, Britain too has nukes and I'm sure other countries would retaliate also.
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Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн
02-25-2007, 02:37 AM
title is kinda disturbing :offended: lool
makes me feel like :eek: considering what everyone must be thinkin ;D
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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 02:51 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Tayyaba
title is kinda disturbing :offended: lool
makes me feel like :eek: considering what everyone must be thinkin ;D
I think it is a good title as this is a subject I am certain has been on peoples minds. It is always best to keep things out in the open as quite often open honest dialogue will bring about some understanding. Maybe not agreement, but understanding.

Out of Americas 300,000,000 residents the majority are not as the media portrays us to be. You may read in the paper that last year one million Americans committed crimes, and that some how over shadows the other side of the story that last year 299,000,000 Americans did not commit any crimes.

There is no such thing as a typical American. In fact there isn't even a such thing as a typical Texan. In fact we don't even have a typical Texas city.

San Antonio is more like Seville Spain than it is to Waco Texas. Waco Texas looks more like Birmingham Alabama than it looks like Dallas, Dallas is much more like NYC than it is like El Paso. and so on.

Each of our 50 state have little similarities to each other. Hawaii does not look a thing like Massachusetts, not only is the scenary different, the cultures are vastly different. Alaska is much more like Finland than it like Florida.

So it is with all of America, stereotyping is not fair no matter what direction it is done.

Perhaps threads like this can help remove some stereotypes.
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Keltoi
02-25-2007, 03:10 AM
Reasons not to attack the USA:

You would assure your own destruction.

As for the supposed reasons for nuking the USA, there is a system in place of which the U.S. is the central part. Many people don't really understand how much the Western democracies and economic systems keep the world turning. Yes, many 3rd World nations do not reap the benefits of the global market, but as Winston Churchill mentioned in his "History of the English Speaking Peoples", when the Western civilization does eventually pass away, as all civilizations must, it will be dearly missed.
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Philosopher
02-25-2007, 03:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
Reasons not to nuke the USA.

USA, Britain too has nukes and I'm sure other countries would retaliate also.
I would nuke everyone until the human race becomes extinct.
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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 03:36 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Philosopher
I would nuke everyone until the human race becomes extinct.
But that approach would most likely endanger aardvarks and other blameless creatures.








I doubt if that is an option at this time. Our only option is to place our trust in Allah(swt) and pray that all of mankind will wake up.



Death holds no fear or threat to those who believe and have faith, but it is a tremendous punishment to wish upon those who are blind.
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Philosopher
02-25-2007, 03:37 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
But that approach would most likely endanger aardvarks and other blameless creatures.








I doubt if that is an option at this time. Our only option is to place our trust in Allah(swt) and pray that all of mankind will wake up.



Death holds no fear or threat to those who believe and have faith, but it is a tremendous punishment to wish upon those who are blind.
Humans are too stupid and arrogant to live. We are a waste of air and space.
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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 03:42 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Philosopher
Humans are too stupid and arrogant to live. We are a waste of air and space.
We also make a lot of noise, are not a major food source for any animal and we probably smell bad to most animals.

But, that does not remove the fact that Allah(swt) had a purpose in creating us, and we are the only creatures that can complete that specific purpose.
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Skillganon
02-25-2007, 04:08 AM
I really do not think nuking U.S will achieve anything by destroying countless of life, whatever the evil of U.S maybe.
I am sure if their was such plan, the plan has to be that U.S is nuke sufficiently that their is hardly any life left.

If their was any bases located outside U.S I doubt they will have a home to go back to after it has been nuked.
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Um_ahmad
02-25-2007, 04:14 AM
I love the usa. Would never live anywhere else. No matter what I hear about it.
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rebelishaulman
02-25-2007, 04:15 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow
What you say does make sense.

But, the first major question would be where could you strike that would prevent retaliation? The US military has no central location. Each of the Branches of the military are capable of acting independently. A very large amount of the US retaliatory force is not located in the US. That which is located in the US is scattered throughout all 50 states.

Destruction of the Federal government will not create total anarchy as each state is capable of functioning on it's own. Plus the Federal government is not dependent on any single leader and the forces that do control the Federal government are seldom if ever in one location. To attack the US would be similar to attacking 50 separate countries at the same time.

Many can come up with justification for a pre-emptive first strike, but I would question the wisdom of anybody doing that.

The next problem is nearly every country in the world has a very large invested interest in the US. For most countries the US is either their biggest source of goods or their biggest customer for their exports.
Are you serious? It makes sense? You must be nuts, thinking nuking anyone or anything "makes sense".
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Philosopher
02-25-2007, 04:24 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by rebelishaulman
Are you serious? It makes sense? You must be nuts, thinking nuking anyone or anything "makes sense".
It mads sense during WWII.
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siFilam
02-25-2007, 04:27 AM
this is a crazy thread....why aren't the moderators of this forum saying anything. nuking the US means that many Muslims will also die. last time I heard there are approximately 7 million Muslims in this country. The Deen of Allah is spreading here. The area I live in has 3 Madrassah.
In general, nuclear bombs should not be used against any country.
this makes me so angry...:anger:
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Um_ahmad
02-25-2007, 04:29 AM
thank you sister, I was waiting for someone to say that.
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Muslim Woman
02-25-2007, 09:33 AM
Salaam/peace




format_quote Originally Posted by siFilam
this is a crazy thread....why aren't the moderators of this forum saying anything. ......
this makes me so angry...:anger:

----u r becoming toooo serious, unnecessarily :rolleyes:


Of course , i did not post it to encourage any group to nuke USA. I don't want it either ---- my freinds , relatives live there . It's just food for thought.


Do only Americans have right to attack others ? Only Israel has right to self defence ? Why Others can not enjoy the same right ?


Pathetic is not only USA is attacking other countries , most Americans believe it's ok to kill civilians . See the survery report here.


The myth of Muslim support for terror

http://www.islamicboard.com/general-...rt-terror.html


Amercians should start thinking others are human being , too. Not only Amercians lives are precious to God .

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They scream peace, but what they mean is war; they shout freedom but what they mean is enslavement; they shout democracy but what they mean is democracy for its multinationals.



The Holy Quran describes such people whose words contradict their deeds:

“And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not.


(2:11-12)”



Yamin Zakaria (www.iiop.org) - Mumbai, India


----------HOW TRUE.


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a guest: Just Do It


By all means DO IT,we deserve it!! By then i don't have to worry about keeping a job,my bills,the crap they put on TVs,having to see drunks,drug addicts on the streets,pornography on LITTLE KIDS,our society is so sick,so ya "Just Do It".



February 25, 2007


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Please God,if you do really exist,please nuke America because it does have many sins.


Let me remind you of the sins this evil USA and Israel have commited.


They have killed innocent children,killed men and women.have humiliated the elderly and have stolen land.In fact,they have broken all the 10 commandements that you gave them.



Yes,your "chosen" ones have chosen evil and more evil.They have shamed you and blasphemed you and scorned your love.I can go on God with much more,but because i am also less than perfect chastize me and teach me a lesson,but I also believe that the USA needs chastizing and discipline.


If nuking it the way to go.Please god,I pray for a preemtive strike on the USa and its evil sister israel.


February 25, 2007
a guest: ...

They scream peace, but what they mean is war; they shout freedom but what they mean is enslavement; they shout democracy but what they mean is democracy for its multinationals. The Holy Quran describes such people whose words contradict their deeds: “And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not. (2:11-12)”




Yes,this quote pretty much summarises the hypocricy and double standards of the USA and Israel.Double speak is also mentioned in the holy Koran.Woe unto the evil doers for their end is near and their punishment great.

February 25, 2007

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NoName55
02-25-2007, 11:19 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by rebelishaulman
Are you serious? It makes sense? You must be nuts, thinking nuking anyone or anything "makes sense".
Did you bother to read the entire post or just the first sentence? He goes on to explain how impractical, well near impossible it would be.

b'shalome
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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 12:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Skillganon
I really do not think nuking U.S will achieve anything by destroying countless of life, whatever the evil of U.S maybe.
I am sure if their was such plan, the plan has to be that U.S is nuke sufficiently that their is hardly any life left.

If their was any bases located outside U.S I doubt they will have a home to go back to after it has been nuked.

The logistics of trying to bomb the US to that point is staggering. If it could be accomplished by using 1 bomb for every 1,000 square miles of land surface That would take 9,634 bombs. Keep in mind Russia had over 30,000 nuclear weapons aimed at the US at one point, but they never reached the point where they felt they could achieve sufficient advantage to risk a first strike.

Most of the world thinks of the US as a country in terms of the country they live in. But, the reality is it would be much closer to think of it as 50 separate countries, although they all are United together.

As I said earlier it does make sense for people to think it would be fair to Nuke the US. This comes about because of what much of the world's perception of the US is. The country is seen as a land of great wealth, much extravagance and arrogance.

The world can not afford warfare in terms of military conquest. The world is ir need of conquest by truth, peace and love. Bombs are not going to solve any problems.

Some people do want to nuke the US and it is understandable that some people feel that way. But, the reality is it is not a workable solution. On the surface it makes sense for many people. But the overall effect would be to turn the people who would do so, into being the very same as what they are against. Everybody seems to agree that power and wealth corrupt, but at the same time it seems that many of those same people want it for themselves. As that is the type of power structure it would take for a government to have the initiative and ability for a first strike.

Total destruction of the US would only bring about a temporary change in the world balance. It would just mean that another nation would seize the immediate power gap and achieve world dominance. The game would be the same, except the players will have changed. Maybe for the worse.
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Tania
02-25-2007, 12:23 PM
The nuke :-[ will not affect the environment too :? Our earth its quite ill and the ecologic parts from states could not ask the army to become more ecological:? Like give up to their arms which affect the environment.
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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 12:36 PM
You know when you read about the reasons why anybody thinks they can justify the use of nuclear weapons against anybody, it sounds pretty illogical.

This planet is a gift to us from Allah(swt). He has given us free choice to live on it in accordance with his rules and have Peace or to believe we can make the rules and set our own standards.

This is an excellent example that we need to go back to the instruction manuals and try to gain some understanding as to what our purpose really is.
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chris4336
02-25-2007, 12:38 PM
I am very dissapointed this thread has lasted as long as it has. I have looked at the article and understand its point, but the title is extremely disturing. Its in poor taste and a poor representation of this board. How about I start a thread "Reasons why we should kill all people in Saudia Arabia??" or "Top three reasons to support the slaughter of those in Indonesia." It would get shut down immediately. If the moderators really think this thread is appropriate, then I have some serious doubts about this board.
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Woodrow
02-25-2007, 12:52 PM
Although I find this thread to be interesting and that some very good opinions are being brought out. There is nothing in this thread that can be considered Islamic views, values or thoughts. With that said it does not make any sense to have this thread here.

All that needs to be said on it has already been said. Nothing of any importance can be added to it.

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