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Um_ahmad
03-24-2007, 05:18 PM
Salam to all my brothers and sisters. I am a married women with 2 boys. I am pregnant with my third child and it's a girl. Inshalla I would like to name her "MAYA" it's an easy name and common in between the arabic and american people. I also like this name very much.

The only problem is people are telling me it's haram not to name her a relegiouse muslim name. I even had one women tell me if she doesnt have a muslim name she will never live a good life. And it's in my hands. Help me plz. I would like some advice on this. And if you have any nice muslim girl name that are easy throw them my way. Salam :?
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chacha_jalebi
03-24-2007, 05:20 PM
erm kismat (future) is in Allah (swt) hands not the names you choose for a kid :D lol and namin a child a name isnt haram, but its desired you keep good names with good meanins

btw if you decide to change name i can giv ya sum suggestions :D
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Pk_#2
03-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Is the meaning of this current name bad?

If not, keep it! I LIKE IT :D

Peace!
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- Qatada -
03-24-2007, 05:26 PM
:salamext:

Names whose use is forbidden


Question:
Are there any names which it is forbidden to use? If so, what are they?



Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.



Yes, there are names which we are forbidden to use, examples of which are as follows:

It is forbidden to use any name which belongs only to Allaah, such as al-Khaaliq (the Creator) and al-Quddoos (the Most Holy), or names which do not befit any except Allaah, such as Malik al-Mulook (King of Kings). This is the consensus of the fuqaha’.

Ibn al-Qayyim said that names which belong only to Allaah include: al-Ahad (the One), al-Samad (the Eternal), al-Khaaliq (the Creator), al-Razzaaq (the Provider), al-Jabbaar (the Compeller), al-Mutakabbir (the Majestic), al-Awwal (the First), al-Aakhir (the Last), al-Baatin (the Hidden) and ‘Allaam al-Ghuyoob (the Knower of the Unseen). (Tuhfat al-Mawdood, p. 98).

The evidence that it is forbidden to call anyone by a name which belongs only to Allaah, such as Malik al-Mulook (king of kings), may be seen for example in the hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him); in the version narrated by al-Bukhaari, he said: “The Messenger of Allaah

(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The most despised name with Allaah on the Day of Resurrection will be a man called Malik al-Mulook.’” According to Muslim, he said, “The man who will most deserving of Allaah’s anger and most evil on the Day of Resurrection will be a man who was called Malik al-Amlaak. There is no King except Allaah.”

As regards using names that may be used of Allaah or of others, it is permissible to use these names, such as ‘Ali (High), Rasheed (Guide) and Badee’ (Innovator or Originator).

Ibn ‘Aabideen said: “It seems to be the case that they are permitted, even if the definite article ‘al’ is used.” Al-Hasafi said: “What (these names) mean concerning us (human beings) is different from their meanings concerning Allaah, may He be exalted.”

It is forbidden to use names which befit no one except the Prophet

(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), such as Sayyid Walad Adam (master of the sons of Adam), Sayyid al-Naas (master of mankind), Sayyid al-Kull (master of all), because these names, as the Hanbalis said, befit no one except him,

(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
It is forbidden to use any name which implies enslavement to anything besides Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, such as ‘Abd al-‘Uzza (slave of al-‘Uzza – a pagan goddess), ‘Abd al-Ka’bah (slave of the Ka’bah), ‘Abd al-Daar (slave of the House), ‘Abd ‘Ali (slave of ‘Ali), ‘Abd al-Husayn (slave of Husayn), etc.

It was stated in Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen that one should not be called ‘Abd foolaan (slave of so-and-so).

It says in Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’: “They (the scholars) agreed that every name which implies enslavement to anything other than Allaah is forbidden, such as ‘Abd al-‘Uzza, ‘Abd ‘Amr, ‘Abd ‘Ali, ‘Abd al-Ka’bah, and any other similar names, such as ‘Abd al-Nabi (slave of the Prophet), ‘Abd al-Husayn, ‘Abd al-Maseeh (slave of the Messiah).” (Haashiyat Ibn ‘Aabideen, 5/268;Mughni al-Muhtaaj, 4/295; Tuhfat al-Muhtaaj, 10/373; Kashshaaf al-Qinaa’, 3/27; Tuhfat al-Mawdood, p. 90).

The evidence that it is forbidden to use any name which implies enslavement to anything other than Allaah may be seen in the report of Ibn Abi Shaybah from Yazeed ibn al-Miqdaam ibn Shurayh, from his father, from his grandfather Haani’ ibn Yazeed, may Allaah be pleased with him, who said: “A delegation came to the Prophet

(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he heard them calling someone ‘Abd al-Hajar (slave of the stone). He asked him, ‘What is your name?” and he said, ‘‘Abd al-Hajar.’ He said, ‘No, you are ‘Abd-Allaah (the slave of Allaah).’” (Al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 11/335).

Using the names of idols that are worshipped instead of Allaah.
Using foreign names, such as Turkish, Persian, Berber, etc. names, that have no origin in the Arabic language.

It is forbidden to use the names of devils (shayaateen), such as Khanzab, al-Walhaan, al-A’war and al-Ajda’. It was reported that the Sunnah is to change names such as these.

Names that are makrooh (disliked) may be categorized as follows:

It is makrooh to use names that have bad or distasteful meanings, or which sound odd, which would cause others to mock a person or would cause him embarrassment, in addition to being contrary to the guidance of the Prophet

(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), who taught us to choose good names.

It is makrooh to use names whose meanings are too soft and provocative or sexy, which is a widespread problem in the naming of girls.
It is makrooh to deliberately name someone after promiscuous actors and singers who star in worthless entertainment shows.
One of the signs of empty-headedness and lack of pride in one's faith is the fact that after a show starring immoral women, people will compete with one another in naming their newborns after these women. Anyone who checks the names registered at the time of one of these shows will see that this is a fact. And our complaining is to Allaah.
It is makrooh to use names that convey any sense of sin and disobedience to Allaah.

It is makrooh to use foreign names that belong only to the kuffaar.
The proud Muslim who is content with his religion will avoid this and not come anywhere near it. The temptation to use these names is very strong in our time, and a Muslim might pick up any name from Europe and America. This is the worst type of sin and a sign of humiliation and defeat. If this imitation of the kuffaar and using their names is merely the matter of whims and stupidity, it is nevertheless a major sin; if it is done because one actually believes these names are better than Muslim names, then this is a devastating blow to the foundation of faith. In either case, the person who has done this must hasten to repent, and changing the name is a condition of repentance.


It is makrooh [disliked] to use the names of Pharaohs or other tyrants.

It is makrooh to use names that have any undesirable meaning.

It is makrooh to name people after animals that are known for their bad qualities.



When the Arabs called their children by such names, it was because of good qualities that they noticed in them, and this was the desired meaning. So when they used the name Kalb (dog), it was because of the dog’s alertness and ability to work hard; when they used the name Himaar (donkey), it was because of the donkey’s patience and forbearance, and so on… This refutes the false arguments of the Shu’oobiyyah against the Arabs, as was explained by Ibn Durayd, Ibn Faaris, and others.
It is makrooh to use any name which is composed of any word added to such words as al-Deen (the Religion) or Islam, such as Noor al-Deen/Nuruddin (Light of the Religion), Diya’ al-Deen/Ziauddin (Brightness of the Religion), Sayf al-Islam (Sword of Islam), Noor al-Islam (Light of Islam), etc. This is because of the great status attached to these words, al-Deen and Islam. Adding words to them to form names is an exaggeration which borders on lying, which is why some scholars said that this is haraam, and the majority say that it is makrooh, because it gives an incorrect impression which should not be given. The way this practice started was that these were titles which were added to people’s names, then people started to use them as names.

Names of this sort may be forbidden for two reasons. In a name such as Shihaab al-Deen, for example, the word Shihaab means a flame, which comes from fire, then this is added to the word al-Deen (which is inappropriate). This can lead to the use of strange names, as in Indonesia, where people use names such as Dhahab al-Deen (gold of the Religion) and Maas al-Deen (diamond of the Religion)!



Imaam al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him), use to dislike being called by his nickname Muhiy al-Deen, and Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) used to dislike being called by his nickname Taqiy al-Deen, and he said, “But my family gave me this nickname, so I am known by it.”

It is makrooh to use names that are composed of two parts, and this includes names which include the name of Allaah, with the exception of the name ‘Abd-Allaah (slave of Allaah), which is one of the most beloved names to Allaah. Names which include the word al-Rasool (the Messenger) are also makrooh.

Some of the scholars regarded using the names of angels (peace be upon them) as makrooh. Giving angels’ names to women is clearly haraam, because it implies imitation of the mushrikeen, who thought that the angels were the daughters of Allaah. Exalted be He above what they say!
Some of the scholars thought that it was makrooh to give people the names of Soorahs of the Qur’aan, such as Ta-Ha, Yaa-Seen, Ha-Meem. (The popular notion that Ya-Seen and Ta-Ha are names of the Prophet

(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is not correct).


Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=1692&ln=eng&txt=

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Count DeSheep
03-24-2007, 06:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah
Yes, there are names which we are forbidden to use, examples of which are as follows:
It is forbidden to use any name which belongs only to Allaah, such as al-Khaaliq (the Creator)...
O.O

There's a guy that goes to my school named Khaliq. Is that bad?
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- Qatada -
03-24-2007, 06:26 PM
I think it should be:

Abdul (worshipper of the) Khaaliq (Creator.) :) So maybe you could tell him that? :p


Peace.
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IbnAbdulHakim
03-24-2007, 06:28 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Count DeSheep
O.O

There's a guy that goes to my school named Khaliq. Is that bad?
good question, may i add rahman/raheem/malik to the list.


i think its ok because Allah is Al-Khalik, Ar-Rahman, Ar-raheem, Al-Malikul Mulk (or is it Qudoos). Notice the "Al or Ar"

Right? please correct me :)
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Abu Ibraheem
03-24-2007, 06:34 PM
Salam

Any name is a Muslim name aslong as it does not denote words of kufr or degradation. Adam told the angels the names of all things before the first kafir became a kafir (iblis). We should believe any name that serves its purpose is Muslim. It does not have to be an Arabic name as "Bilal" was an Ethiopian name. However, the best names are those of the righteous people of Allah and it is also the pratice of people to name their children after the Prophets and the Saleheen as one hadith narrated in Muslim by Mughairah Ibn Shubah echoes where the Prophet saaws was questioned in regards to the verse "ya ukhti Haroon" for Maryam. It also turns out that Maryam was named after Miriam, the sister of Musa and Haroon. wasalams
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Count DeSheep
03-24-2007, 06:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah
I think it should be:

Abdul (worshipper of the) Khaaliq (Creator.) :) So maybe you could tell him that? :p


Peace.
Nah, I don't see him much since the new semester started. And he's one of the people that sees me and thinks, "Not him again..." =P

format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
i think its ok because Allah is Al-Khalik, Ar-Rahman, Ar-raheem, Al-Malikul Mulk (or is it Qudoos). Notice the "Al or Ar"

Right? please correct me :)
Yeah, his name's just Khaliq, not Al-Khaliq...But he does have a common last name among Muslims or Arabs or both. I'm not so great with them kinda names. >.<
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جوري
03-24-2007, 06:53 PM
remember the verses in the Quran about prophet Zachria having a son whose name wasn't shared by any other... I say if it is a lovely name without a deragatory or too westernized then go for it...

يَا زَكَرِيَّا إِنَّا نُبَشِّرُكَ بِغُلَامٍ اسْمُهُ يَحْيَى لَمْ نَجْعَل لَّهُ مِن قَبْلُ سَمِيًّا {7}
[Pickthal 19:7] (It was said unto him): O Zachariah! Lo! We bring thee tidings of a son whose name is Yahya (john); we have given the same name to none before (him).

:w:
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 01:00 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi
erm kismat (future) is in Allah (swt) hands not the names you choose for a kid :D lol and namin a child a name isnt haram, but its desired you keep good names with good meanins

btw if you decide to change name i can giv ya sum suggestions :D
Thanks for your support bro.
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 01:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by |)431)M1
Is the meaning of this current name bad?

If not, keep it! I LIKE IT :D

Peace!
:? I don't think so, Does anyone know how I can find out what it means?
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 03:30 AM
I would like to thank you all for replying to my thread. Brother FI Sabil, Thanks for taking the time out to explain. But do you guys think MAYA would be makrooh? I dont think it sounds sexy, and I dont know if its an american or a european name. I know alot of arabic people in our community with that name. What do you guys think?
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*Hana*
03-25-2007, 03:48 AM
Salam Alaikum:

With a quick search I found this information for you. There are many variant spellings with this name so you can search further if you're interested. :)

Greek meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* mother

Indian meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* illusion

Latin meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* the great one

Spanish meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* the great one

Wasalam,
Hana
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جوري
03-25-2007, 03:54 AM
I must admit that I truly love the name Maya since it reminds me of one of my favorite toons growing up... probably unheard of now but (maya the honey bee) was known to the Arabic kids as zeina wo nahool... but the original was maya they just gave her an arabic name... she was so adorable.. always out on an adventure... I had the original comic books... sigh to be 8 again..



here is a youtube clip...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GT1ByzmGQRU
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SirZubair
03-25-2007, 06:31 AM
My children will be named :

Hamza Mohammed

and

Mariam Mohammed

The wife doesn't aprove of either names... i don't care, i am doing all the hard work.. :D
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 01:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hana_Aku
Salam Alaikum:

With a quick search I found this information for you. There are many variant spellings with this name so you can search further if you're interested. :)

Greek meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* mother

Indian meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* illusion

Latin meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* the great one

Spanish meaning of the girl´s name Maya:

* the great one

Wasalam,
Hana
Thank you so much sister. That made me feel so much better. So it's not a bad name you guys.
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 01:22 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia
I must admit that I truly love the name Maya since it reminds me of one of my favorite toons growing up... probably unheard of now but (maya the honey bee) was known to the Arabic kids as zeina wo nahool... but the original was maya they just gave her an arabic name... she was so adorable.. always out on an adventure... I had the original comic books... sigh to be 8 again..



here is a youtube clip...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GT1ByzmGQRU
Thats so nice of you to go into details sister. That was a nice cartoon. I love this name too.
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 01:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
My children will be named :

Hamza Mohammed

and

Mariam Mohammed

The wife doesn't aprove of either names... i don't care, i am doing all the hard work.. :D
Brother why doesnt she like these name? They are nice names.
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Um_ahmad
03-25-2007, 01:24 PM
Jazaka allah khair eveyone. I am sticking to this name. My daughter will inshalla be MAYA. Thanks for all of your help to make my choice.
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