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[center][b]Big Bang!
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Where did everything come from?
What is the proof
No proof but evidence is required, remember proof is for math.?
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Islam tells us Allah both The Creator & The Evolver, of all that exits. We know Allah did not evolve us from monkeys, and we know all things are from Allah.
Is the entire book literal or are parts of it metaphorical or poetic?
There is ..the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an ..manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass.
No not exactly, the big bang refers more to a sudden expansion and not a explosion like a bomb.
The term Big Bang is used both in a narrow sense to refer to a point in time when the observed expansion of the universe (Hubble's law) ...and in a more general sense to refer to the prevailing cosmological paradigm explaining the origin and expansion of the universe. source wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
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Some say there first was a void or a 'nothingness', or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing' concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.
Big bang does not = evolutionary theory.
As for how it all started is not known either and that would go into another theory. there are some theories as to wether the universe is cycilic each big bang being folllowed by an eventual big crunch and repeat..
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What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:
A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile . . with no left over parts . . and the motor is running . .
Remember the bigbang theory has nothing to do with evolution nor does it envolve a big explosion as presented here but refers to rather a expansion as i mentioned earlier.
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.You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert? . . .
For that i have to say they got some awesome pyrotechs in that restraunt. or Tim the toolman Taylor.
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..Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?
Of course not!
Right but they are unrelated to the bigbang or evo. Now if jsut for argument they showed you how it was done then they may have something.
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Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe?
I would recomend learing more about the theory and the related theories.
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Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'?
No i would not recommend that to anyone but i would recommend them to learn about it and look at the evidence.
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Creation or Explosion
At least from a simplicty stance the bigbang is a much simpler explanation.
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We can turn our attention to the earth and the heavens and make observations on our own without a 'genius' scientist telling us what we are seeing.
But do you understand why things happen? Do you understand what gravity is and how it works? Thankfully there are speciallists in the fields of science that discover things for us. Thankfullly those discoveries and theories are peer reviewed as to weed out mistakes and fraud.
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And then the idea that nothing is sustaining the heavens and the earth! - 'It just runs itself'? How?
Thats what science tries to figure out. It has explained why we dont float off of the earth with the theory of gravity. It explains why the earth circles the sun. It explains why geodes form etc... Nothing special is needed for these things.
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Think about the stars, the sun, the moon and the countless solar systems and galaxies in the universe.
Who or What created them in the first place?
nothing to my knowledge.
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They continue to function and move with the utmost precision and accuracy.
Who does this?
Laws of nature and physics.
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Who keeps them gliding along on their courses and orbits preordained for them?
Noone. The laws of physics do most of that.
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Look closer to the heaven surrounding the earth. We call it the 'sky'. Notice the clouds? What are they?
Mostly water.
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Let us now bring our gaze a bit closer to earth. Consider the mountains and their majesty. Is there anything about these massive formations that may give us a clue as to the origin of creation?..
They can give us clues as to the history of the earth and perhaps formation events.
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What about the water covering the earth? Is there another clue hiding beneath the seas?
Clue to what? to the previous question? Same answer then.
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Water covers so much of the earth and even mixes with the land in rivers and streams. Yet is there something keeping it from mixing with itself? What is contained in this mystery of separation of waters?
Yes there are natural explainations.
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What about us? Are we are part of creation? How did we begin?
Most biologists would say that based on the evidence we evolved from a common ancestor.
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What develops us and causes us to live and die?
?developes? As for life we are products of evolution some children however dont have a chance to live and are still born. Death, well injury, murder, and old age and sickness to name a few.
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How are we sustained?
Food, water, air, social interactions myself.
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Think about the humans. How did we all get here?
evolution is the most widley held and supported theory in science that answers that question.
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What is the nature of mankind?
What do you mean?
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What causes us to act as we do?
In general the need to survive and live.
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Are we ungrateful to the One who created us and sustains us?
I thought this was supposed to throw religion aside? Well supposing somethign created us i would be greatfull but thats about it. You know "THanks"
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What is this clue? Think about yourself. Did you create yourself?
Nope, my parents did.
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Who or What created all this?
Earth? Well it was formed a long time ago after the bigbang through natural means.
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Who is sustaining everything?
noone
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How do organisms reproduce themselves?
Um i think you should realy read a book on biology if you dont know this one.
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How can a tree grow up out of a seed?
Yep definitly check out a book on biology.