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Uthman
08-01-2005, 07:53 PM
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I'm wondering if anyone else has watched the first part of this programme? If so, what do you make of it?

To be honest, it's more about muslims than Al-Qaeeda. Peter Taylor, the person who has studied Al-Qaeeda even claims that Jihad means holy war! Alas, how misled.

You can view information about the programmes on the bbc website:

First part (Jihad.com)

Second part (Madrid bombings)

Third part (Frontline Pakistan)

You can argue that watching it is a waste of time, but hey, it's kinda interesting.

Tune in on BBC Two in 7 minutes (21:00) today to see the second part (unless it's prayer time in your area)

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aamirsaab
08-01-2005, 08:51 PM
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yeah i saw that program last week. its on right now but i dont like the way it shows muslims because to the average viewer it doesnt portray a good image of muslims.
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minaz
08-01-2005, 08:53 PM
I forgot the Madrid Terrorists weren't suicide bombers, fascinating viewing
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Muezzin
08-01-2005, 08:59 PM
My dreams are fascinating viewing.
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minaz
08-01-2005, 09:02 PM
That really should of been said in the brothers section :p
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Muezzin
08-01-2005, 09:04 PM
Get your mind out of the gutter, scutter. :p

I feel the programme is okay, but it is extremely risky in the way it shows Islam sometimes.
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minaz
08-01-2005, 09:07 PM
is the bit where they shave their body hair as a ritual ready for martydom true?
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Muezzin
08-01-2005, 09:08 PM
Eh? Let me go and watch this thing :p
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Uthman
08-01-2005, 09:42 PM
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I've noted (in my head, not on paper) that it uses a variety of Islamic terms without proper definitions. It also fails to explain (or make clear) Islam regards what them bombers do as poo-poo

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Muezzin
08-01-2005, 09:46 PM
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That's very true, brother Osman. While it does have some good points, its glossing over such important subjects and views are worrying.

Also, I really despise this new term the media has come up with - 'Islamist'

It's ridiculous.

'YOU'RE RACIST!'

'Nah mate... ISLAMIST. That's the ticket. Straight up gold.'

Ugh.

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Uthman
08-01-2005, 09:52 PM
:sl:

Yup! Double Ugh! In fact, even the ugh is ugh! There's a lot of Ughs going on here!

Alas, no more to add.

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Muezzin
08-01-2005, 09:54 PM
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The word 'Islamist' has caused more 'ughs' than an average match at Wimbledon. That's gotta tell those media creeps something.

That's right. 'Ugh'.

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Bittersteel
08-01-2005, 10:15 PM
new al qaida? *confused*
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Genius
08-01-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Abdul Aziz
new al qaida? *confused*
It's a hard concept to grasp until you study it in detail, but in short;

Old Al Qaeda; Centralised organisation, following a chain of command, it existed prior to and immediately after 9/11.

New Al Qaeda; An ideology/movement, no centralised command, no chain of command, very loosely run.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Bittersteel
08-01-2005, 11:20 PM
where the **** are they?If we catch them and hand them over they won't find a reason to continue the "war on terror."
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