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England
04-19-2007, 08:45 PM
Apparently muslims are awarded truckloads of virgins in the afterlife as a reward for something, perhaps being a good muslim? I don't think this would appeal to the female muslims, so surely their reward is different?
Another thing say you got your truckload of virgins what would your wife think? :X Would you refuse "Allah's" gift?
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Keltoi
04-19-2007, 08:46 PM
I think this "70 virgins" thing is a misrepresentation used by terror groups to recruit small minds. I could be wrong though.
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al-fateh
04-19-2007, 08:49 PM
Jannah or Paradise is not for men alone. It is prepared for both, righteous men and righteous women. All the joys and blessings of Jannah are for both of them. Allah has mentioned in the Qur’an that He put both Adam and his wife Hawwa’ (Eve) in Jannah after creating them, and He told them to eat and enjoy everything (except the fruit of one tree). [See al-Baqarah 2: 35; al-A`raf 7: 19] Thus, all the trees, gardens and rivers of Jannah are made for both men and women and they both will enjoy them.

All Believers, males and females, will enter the Jannah. Allah says, ( Gardens of perpetual bliss: they shall enter there, as well as the righteous among their fathers, their spouses, and their offspring) (ar-Ra`d 13: 23)

Further, Allah says, (Indeed, the people of Paradise will be happily occupied. They and their wives shall be in shades, reclining on raised couches. There are for them fruits and there is for them all that they ask for…) (Ya-Sin 36: 55-57)

In the Hereafter Allah will say to the Believers, (Enter the Garden, you and your wives, you will be made glad. There will be brought round for them trays of gold and goblets, and therein is all that the souls desire and eyes find sweet and you will stay there forever. This is the garden, which you are made to inherit because of what you used to do. Therein for you is fruit in plenty whence to eat. ) (Az-Zukhruf 43: 70-73)

There are many other places in the Qur’an where it is mentioned that men and women both will find their reward and none will be deprived. [See: Aal `Imran 3: 195; An-Nisa’, 4: 124; An-Nahl 16: 97; Al-Ahzab 33: 35; Ghafir 40: 40]

The life of women in Jannah will be as pleasant and happy as the life of men. Allah is not partial to any gender. He created both of them and He will take care of both of them according to their needs and desires. Let us all work to achieve the Jannah and then, in sha’ Allah, we will find there what will satisfy all of us fully.

This verse clearly denotes that those women who do righteous deeds are rewarded with Paradise and given a high rank that is equal to the good deeds they have offered.

Shedding more light on this issue, we'd like to cite the following fatwa issued by the outstanding Muslim scholar, Sheikh ibn Jibreen:

There is no doubt that reward in the Hereafter encompasses both men and women. This is based on the following Qur'anic verses:

( Lo! I suffer not the work of any worker, male or female, to be lost) (Al `Imran 3: 195)

(Whosoever works righteousness, whether male or female, while he (or she) is a true believer, We will give a good life. ) (An-Nahl 16: 97)

(And whoever does righteous good deeds, being a male or a female, and is a true believer, such will enter Paradise. ) (An-Nisa 4: 124)

(Verily, the Muslims, men and women, the believers, men and women... Allah has prepared for them forgiveness and a great reward. ) (Al-Ahzab 33: 35)

Allah mentions them entering into Paradise together, saying:

(They and their wives will be in pleasant shade. ) (Ya Sin 36: 56)

(Enter Paradise, you and your wives, in happiness. ) (Az-Zukhruf 43: 70)

Allah also mentions that He will recreate women in Paradise in the following verse:

( Lo! We have created them a (new) creation. And made them virgins… ) (Al-Waqi`ah 56: 35-36) That is, Allah will recreate the elderly women and make them virgins; the same will be done for old men, Allah will make them youth.

It is also mentioned in the Hadith that the women of this worldly life have a superiority over Al-hur Al-`In due to the acts of worship and obedience that they performed in this world. Therefore, the believing women will enter Paradise just like the believing men. If a woman had a number of husbands, she, upon entering Paradise with them, would choose among them the one with the best character and behavior.

Excerpted, with slight modifications, from: http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/article....html#paradise

Thus, rest assured dear sister that Allah never wrongs anyone, male or female, nor does He, Almighty, deprive any person of his/her work’s fruit.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544706
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Keltoi
04-19-2007, 08:51 PM
So is the virgin rewards in Heaven truly an Islamic belief? Where does this assumption come from?
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al-fateh
04-19-2007, 08:51 PM
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503549252

Multiple Wives in Paradise: What Is for Women?
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Keltoi
04-19-2007, 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by al-fateh
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503549252

Multiple Wives in Paradise: What Is for Women?
Hmm...so those who deserve it get whatever they want in Heaven? Even if that means multiple wives..which of course is debauchery labeled as polygamy in my opinion. Do Muslims actually believe that they might be rewarded with sexual pleasures? Or am I just reading this wrong?
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al-fateh
04-19-2007, 08:58 PM
it can be whatever u want in your opinion....

what is in heaven is pleasures of what no man can imagine...it is not only ordaine to men only but rather everyone!!
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Umar001
04-19-2007, 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Keltoi
Hmm...so those who deserve it get whatever they want in Heaven? Even if that means multiple wives..which of course is debauchery labeled as polygamy in my opinion. Do Muslims actually believe that they might be rewarded with sexual pleasures? Or am I just reading this wrong?

Isn't sexual pleasure a blessing in this life? What's wrong with having it in the next life? It's one of the many things we can enjoy.

As for the multiple marriage, well some also view teaching children that there is a God as wrong
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al-fateh
04-19-2007, 09:00 PM
he would rather have illegal sex
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Keltoi
04-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by al-fateh
it can be whatever u want in your opinion....

what is in heaven is pleasures of what no man can imagine...it is not only ordaine to men only but rather everyone!!
I suppose it is just hard to grasp since sexual gratification isn't one of the rewards associated with Heaven in the Christian way of viewing eternal reward. It seems to wrapped up in the issues of the flesh. I'm not trying to offend, it's just an element of Islamic belief I knew very little about.
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Keltoi
04-19-2007, 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by al-fateh
he would rather have illegal sex
"Illegal sex"...how do you come to that conclusion?
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Umm Yoosuf
04-19-2007, 09:02 PM
Hello

There is a nice thread on this topic:

http://www.islamicboard.com/akhira-h...-paradise.html
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Zulkiflim
04-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Salaam,

Just wish to point out the word virgins.

Martrys will be given 72 virgin .

In Islam, the ḥūr or ḥūrīyah (Arabic: حورية‎) are described as "pure beings" or "companions pure" of paradise.[1] The hur may have a connotation of gender like the word "angel" in English but in general sense the hur can be male or female as does the word "angel" in English. The Arabic word "Hur", which occurs four times in the Qur’an, is plural of "Ahwar" for the masculine gender and "Huwra" (or houri) for the feminine. Thus, the huriyah may be male or female, either of which describes a person distinguished by "hawar", meaning "purity".[2][3]
According to classical Arabic usage in the time when the Qur'an was revealed:

Hur'in is made of two words Hur and 'In. The word 'Hur' is the plural of both Ahwar (Masculine) and Hawra (Feminine) which literally translates into persons distinguished by Hawar signifying "intense whiteness of the eyeballs and lustrous black of the pupils." (ref: Qamus), hence 'the purity' (ref: Tafsir al'Tabari, and Tafsir al-Razi in 3:52). And as for the word 'In it is the plural of both 'A yan' (Masculine) and 'Ainao' (Feminine) (ref: Al-Raghib Al-Mufradat, Beirut, l998,Kitab 'Ain,P.358). It was basically used to refer to the beautiful eyes of the wild-cow whose eyes are blond. In general, this word implies 'most beautiful eye' irrespective of the person's gender. Thus, the most appropriate English endering of the compound word Hur'In will be: "Companions pure, most beautiful of eye." (ref: Muhammad Asad, Message of the Quran in 56:22[4]); and it is applicable to both male and female [5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houri

And to note,the person who reads and interprets the word virgin according to his own interpretation must question himself first than others.
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al-fateh
04-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by Keltoi
I suppose it is just hard to grasp since sexual gratification isn't one of the rewards associated with Heaven in the Christian way of viewing eternal reward. It seems to wrapped up in the issues of the flesh. I'm not trying to offend, it's just an element of Islamic belief I knew very little about.
you dont believe in Islam, so whatever is explained to u in depth in Islam you wouldnt accept it..

however...religions differ to what is it the heaven rewards, even in the folds of christianity, u will see that not all sects believe the same. they each have a version of the hereafter.

the pleasure of sex in heaven is not like the sex we have, which is fluids, and semen and such stuff..it is different, and it is unlike the pleasure we seek of it here on earth.
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Keltoi
04-19-2007, 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by al-fateh
you dont believe in Islam, so whatever is explained to u in depth in Islam you wouldnt accept it..

however...religions differ to what is it the heaven rewards, even in the folds of christianity, u will see that not all sects believe the same. they each have a version of the hereafter.

the pleasure of sex in heaven is not like the sex we have, which is fluids, and semen and such stuff..it is different, and it is unlike the pleasure we seek of it here on earth.
I'm not trying to "accept" it, just trying to understand the issue. I do have a question, how would you know what sex is like in Heaven? Does the Qu'ran mention what sex will consist of in the afterlife?
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Umar001
04-19-2007, 09:08 PM
Originally Posted by Keltoi
I suppose it is just hard to grasp since sexual gratification isn't one of the rewards associated with Heaven in the Christian way of viewing eternal reward. It seems to wrapped up in the issues of the flesh. I'm not trying to offend, it's just an element of Islamic belief I knew very little about.
Not really, you can have a perfect beautiful God loving and worshiping life in this world whilst having a partner, islam actually views a reletionship between man a woman as a means of worship, i.e. obeying the fact that we are made to be with members of the opposite sex.

So just as in this life a marital reletionship is good and does not detter one from God if done in the right way, in heaven the benefits and pleasures that one has from having a spouse can be had in heaven.
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