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AFDAL
05-03-2007, 03:59 PM
Why DV is so critical of Gandhi ?

Just as a person without intellectual honesty is untrustworthy, a country devoid of it is doomed to perish. This is the case with M.K. Gandhi whom “Hindu India” considers as “Father of the Nation”.

Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, the Father of India, was the first person who had the courage to challenge Gandhi and expose him through and through even when the Gujarati Bania was alive. He called Gandhi the Enemy No.1 of Untouchables and described him as a humbug of the first order.

Truth has to be said and justice has to be defended even at the cost of life if one has to qualify himself as an intellectually honest person.

Was Gandhi intellectually honest?

This spiritual mask that Gandhi was wearing was hiding not only his sex with many young unmarried women, who later turned out to be mental patients, but all aspects of his life. Like a true Sanatani Hindu, Gandhi said one thing and did the exact opposite of it.

That is why the Hindus love him.In fact, the Brahminical people encourage only frauds who are paraded as saints. They are ready to criticise their gods but not Gandhi. A terrorist Brahmin might have killed him but his Brahminical terrorist party is not ready to publicly criticise him. To that extent our Hindu heroes are dishonest cut-throats.

This is what Brahminism — now hiding under Hinduism — stands for.

If we have to rescue India and purify it from Brahminical contaminations, it is our duty to first expose Gandhi who beautifully represents our ruling class double-standards and its hypocrisies.

That is why DV has never hesitated to demolish the myth of this bogus mahatma. In doing so we are conforming to the highest honest intellectual standards set by Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar, the Father of India, and the bitterest critic of Gandhi — the principal cause of all the miseries of India.

Why every leader of every political party and all other leaders of different walks of life praise Gandhi? Because Gandhi is the Gangajal (holy water of river Ganga) that cleanses all their sins.

If India has to be saved Gandhism, which is the other name for Brahminism, has to be destroyed.

Gandhi symbolises the hypocrisy in the life of a Hindu. However much you convince a Hindu with scientific proofs, logical arguments and rational analysis, the Hindu will not believe, never believe. Because the Hindu believes what he wants to believe. Gandhi is the idol for such a make-believe society — EDITOR.
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north_malaysian
05-04-2007, 06:41 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AFDAL
Why DV is so critical of Gandhi.
What's "DV"?

Furthermore, if hindus love him so much, why one of them assassinated Gandhi?
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vpb
05-04-2007, 06:44 AM
Furthermore, if hindus love him so much, why one of them assassinated Gandhi?
don't judge a whole group based on a person that may belong on that group. every group has exceptions.:)
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Trumble
05-04-2007, 07:18 AM
'DV'? SOURCE?


Because the Hindu believes what he wants to believe.
As do we all, no matter how much we might like to fool ourselves.
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AFDAL
05-04-2007, 07:25 AM
DV = Dalit Voice
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AFDAL
05-04-2007, 07:41 AM
Dalits & Brahminical Social Order
V.T. RAJSHEKAR

(1) Introduction: India, with the world’s second largest population of about 1,000 odd millions, next only to China, is a big puzzle. It is the least understood country in the world even by its best brains.

This is because the thoughts inside India are so tightly controlled by its micro-minority Brahminical Order that the outsiders get a totally false picture — fully dressed in shining clothes of non-violence, democracy, socialism, truth, justice and what not.

That is how even the most descerning observers among foreign scholars like Alan Hart are deceived and carried away by the Brahminical rhetorics.

If the thought and action in America are controlled by its 3% Jewish ruling class, in India it is still worse.

Here in India, it is its 3% Brahminical rulers who control the entire media and its publishing industry. But India is one step ahead of America where the Jews are only the king-makers. Here the Brahmins being the controllers of (Hindu) gods and also its Hindu religion, they are also kings themselves lording over every section of the society. Thus, they have the divine authority to rule. That is how they have remained as the unquestioned monarchs from centuries.
CASTE SYSTEM

(2) Brahmins, who have devised the ingenious, deathless caste system (the other word for Hinduism) may be a micro-minority of just 3%. But the wonder of this caste system is this over 3,000 year-old steel frame is deathless. Just below the Brahmins stand the two other (dwija) castes —Kshatriya (warrior caste) and Vaishya (Bania), the trading caste to which M.K. Gandhi belonged.

Below the three stand the most powerful landed shudra caste group.

Together, the four varnas (varna means skin colour) make up only 15% of the total population.
ROLE OF GANDHI

(3) M.K. Gandhi, a Baniya, the greatest supporter of this deathless caste system of ascending order of reverence and descending degree of contempt, paved the way for the Brahmin takeover of the country in 1947.

Immediately after “independence” (1947), the Brahmins got rid of Gandhi fearing his idiosyncrasies.

This Brahminical Order comprising a mere 15% of the population has been ruling India even before “independence” but it further entrenched its position after Gandhi handed over the country to these people.

The only people who did not surrender to the Brahminical rulers are the country’s Black Untouchables, who are its original inhabitants. Forming the country’s single largest population (20%), Dalits, as they are known today, are guided by the burning thoughts of Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar.

Gandhi is called the “Father of the nation”. But the problem is India is not a “nation” but a group of perpetually warring nationalities. A Brahmin terrorist organisation shot dead Gandhi thereby admitting he is not the “Father of their nation”.

RISE OF DR. AMBEDKAR

(4) The only person who is today accepted as the Father of all the different “nations” in India is Dr. Ambedkar. That is why he is called the “Father of India”, the highest title which the country as a whole has conferred upon this Black Untouchable.

Dr. Ambedkar is the only all-India leader who has asked us to fight the Brahminical Order. And this fight is going on ever since the Aryan Brahmins invaded India over 4,000 years ago.

So, Dalits are the one and the only people of this country who have not compromised with Brahminism. The fight is going on from centuries and it will continue as long as Brahminical Order continues.

Dalit Voice, of which I am the Editor, is the country’s oldest (26 years) and the largest circulated English journal published in six Indian languages. We have to our credit over 100 world-famous books including the one published from America, Dalit — The Black Untouchables of India, (Clarity Press, Atlanta, USA).
FOUNDING FATHER OF RACISM

(5) This book has linked the struggle of the American, African and Indian Blacks. It also invited the world’s attention to Brahminism which is the founding father of racism in the world.

The upper castes of India recently made much noise on the racist attacks in London on Shilpa Shetty. But they are hiding the historical fact that the Brahminical India exported racism all over the world. India therefore is the founding father of racism. The Sanskrit word varna means skin colour.

Brahminism is the other word for racism. Racism has theological (religious) sanction under Brahminical sacred scriptures.
BLUFF OF “INDIA SHINING”

(6) China, which became independent two years after India, has galloped and became a world leader. But India is limping, sinking deeper and deeper into economic crisis, social stagnation, endless violence and political crisis.

Our Brahminical rulers are misleading the outside world by their false figures on its “roaring” GDP. When over 85% of India’s population is not only sick but in deep pain how can anybody talk of “India shining”? This is sheer bluff.

But the wonder of all wonders is that India did not collapse despite all its crisis after crisis. This is because its steel and concrete caste scaffolding is strong and in tact.

But Dalits are determined to demolish this deathless human pyramid and liberate the over 85% non-Aryan nationalities and also the 15% Brahminical Social Order and particularly the 3% Brahmins who are also its victims.

(7) We want to save the Brahmins who are also suffering from the mental disease of Brahminism. We want to fight and finish only Brahminism. We have nothing against individual Brahmins. However, we admit that there can be no Brahminism without the Brahmin.

Brahminical people with the help of their monopoly media inside India and occupying many key positions in the West are misleading the world.
PRINCIPAL CONTRADICTION

(8) Earlier, they took over the leadership of marxist parties and fooled the oppressed people.

They packed their people in key positions by resorting to nationalisation of industries and organising trade unions. But marxism failed to liberate our people because marxism became the other name for Brahminism.

Later the rulers switched over to globalisation and denationalised the industries, invited foreign capitalists and further entrenched themselves.

Neither marxism nor globalisation can cure India’s disease as long as Brahminism continues to sap our vital energies.

As a specialist on the subject, I want to warn that India can make no progress as long as Brahminism continues to be the country’s guiding philosophy.

If India has to live Brahminism has to die. Indian history has proved this fact.

That means Brahminism is the country’s principal contradiction. But our rulers talk of all sorts of contradictions but carefully hiding the principal contradiction. That is how the foreigners get deceived.
BRAHMINISM & ZIONISM

(9) We want to impress our friends in the West that Brahminism is the other word for zionism.

Our research has revealed that both the Jews and Brahmins originated from the same geographical area in Middle East and both have the same DNA. Both have the same value system. The very fact the two are cooperating and collaborating closely in fighting terrorism (read Muslims) proves their close historical affinity and their hate-mongering mental make-up.

If India has to live, Brahminism must die. Such a destruction of Brahminism will be carried out by none other than the Black Untouchables of India, the children of Dr. Ambedkar, and the most uncompromising blood enemies of Brahminism.
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north_malaysian
05-05-2007, 01:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AFDAL
Dalit — The Black Untouchables of India.
Does Hindu caste system based on skin colours? I mean the lighter their skin ... the higher is their caste?

If it does... it means that the Kashmiris are higher caste than the Tamil, Malayali?
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Eric H
05-05-2007, 04:34 AM
Greetings and peace be with you AFDAL;

If India has to live, Brahminism must die. Such a destruction of Brahminism will be carried out by none other than the Black Untouchables of India, the children of Dr. Ambedkar, and the most uncompromising blood enemies of Brahminism
Can this destruction of Brahminism be carried out in a peaceful manor?

In the spirit of praying for peace on Earth

Eric
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Trumble
05-05-2007, 05:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
Does Hindu caste system based on skin colours? I mean the lighter their skin ... the higher is their caste?

If it does... it means that the Kashmiris are higher caste than the Tamil, Malayali?
No, it's not based on skin colour, although it was partially founded on racial issues. The dalits are (generally) descended from the 'original' inhabitants of India, who had an African origin, who fell outside the caste system of the Aryan invaders. The 'black' reference seems fairly new, mainly resulting from links between Dalit and African-American groups.


African-Americans and India's Untouchables share a history of slavery and apartheid (segregation). The Untouchables, originally the African founders of the lush Indus Valley civilization, were invaded and conquered by fair-skinned Aryans from the North. In order to administer a complex web of ethnies and define their relations to the conquered peoples, the Aryans instituted the 4-tiered Brahminical caste system. Based upon birth and ranked by ethny, with Aryans at the peak in the Brahmin caste, and other allied ethnies forming castes of descending order of value, the caste system contained and was addressed to the early Aryans and their allies, who came to be called Hindus. All remaining populations, those who continued to fight the Aryan invaders, lost and were enslaved (the Untouchables), those who fled into the hills (tribals), those whose physical proximity probably remained too far removed from the invaders (backward castes), and those who maintained or subsequently converted to other religions in rejection of their integration and enslavement under Hinduism (Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, etc.) -- were outside the caste system and therefore, according to the religious scriptures which came to elaborate, encode and attempt moral justification of the caste system, outside Hinduism, despite the fact that they were still integrated under Aryan political dominance.
from: Rajshekar, V T 'DALIT: The Black Untouchables of India' (I can't link as it's on Questia; subscribers can find it if they wish.)
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north_malaysian
05-07-2007, 01:41 AM
I think it's a pattern to rule the original inhabitants by the dominant invaders worldwide:

1) USA - Whites rule the Native Americans
2) Australia - Europeans rule the Aborigines
3) Malaysia - Malays rule the Orang Asli
4) Taiwan - Chinese rule the Aborigines
5) NZ - Europeans rule the Maoris
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chacha_jalebi
05-07-2007, 11:07 AM
i knew somethin was dodgy bout him, that mini skirt he wore gav him away:D

on a serious note lol:p, gandhi did portray himself as a peace lovin person, but there was ulterior motives, he knew that if pakistan and india stayed as one, eventually the hindus wud hav taken it all over pssssh.

what do ya call a indian with pink hair... gandhi floss :p

peace. no offence intended, bye:D
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abs
05-07-2007, 11:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian
What's "DV"?

Furthermore, if hindus love him so much, why one of them assassinated Gandhi?
i agree with u
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