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islamirama
05-12-2007, 06:42 PM
The israeli response to the Arab peace initiative: 20,000 new settlement units in occupied Jerusalem.

This is all illegal and it is criminal... and it is done solely because the American tax-payer finances it. No money = no additional illegal settlements = no additional conflict. If we look at the broader picture of the Arab/Israeli conflict, we might actually be able to say that the American tax-payer is financing the US's own downfall... because the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is now having repercussions directly on the US. Afghanistan..., Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Iran... it is ALL related to the Palestinian problem and thus to Israel. The Zionist lobby will however do its utmost to always convince the Americans of otherwise... until the Middle East and United States are finally both destroyed.

http://www.wafa.ps/english/body.asp?id=10033

PLO Calls International Community to Stop Israeli Plan to Build new Illegal Neighbourhoods in Jerusalem

RAMALLAH, May 11, 2007, (WAFA)- Head of Negotiation Department at PLO, Dr Saeb Erikat, called on the international community to immediately intervene to curb an Israeli decision to build new three colonial neighbourhoods in the occupied East Jerusalem.

In separate letters to the EU envoy Mark Otté, Assistant US Secretary for Near Eastern Affairs David Welch, UN Secretary General Special Representative and ninety six representatives and ambassadors, Urikat a..called them to end the Israeli plan of building new (illegal) neighborhoods in the holy city.

Israeli colony plan, on building 20, 000 housing units on lands occupied in 1967, was approved by Jerusalem's municipality.


Israeli Haaretz newspaper quoted head of the municipality's planning committee Yehosua Pollak as saying the aim of establishing the new Jewish neighbourhoods was to form a geographical connection between Jerusalem and southern districts and Tel Aviv's colonies.

The plan was approved ten days ago, the paper added. The new plan will isolate Jerusalem from all Palestinian cities, including Ramallah, Bethlehem, and Jericho.

S.A.S. (20:12 P) (17:12 GMT)

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http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=13375

Israel to build huge Jerusalem settlement

5/11/2007 9:00:00 AM GMT

The Israeli government plans to build three new Jewish neighborhoods in Arab East Jerusalem, an area considered occupied under international law.


The plan, under which 20,000 new homes would be built for Jewish settlers, is aimed at creating a contiguous Jewish residential area linking East Jerusalem with major West Bank settlement blocs, said Yehoshua Pollak, Jerusalem's deputy mayor.

Several months ago, the Jerusalem municipality canceled a similar plan to construct 20,000 homes on hills in the western part of Jerusalem following opposition by environmentalists.

"After (that) plan was scrapped, the city had to look for other alternatives to provide housing for its growing population," Pollak said.

According to Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, the plan still needs approval from other authorities; a process that could take several months.

Israel seized East Jerusalem in 1967, and annexed the area is 1981 in a move not recognized by the international community.

About 260,000 Jewish settlers and 2.5 million Palestinians live in the West Bank. The World Court has branded all Israeli settlements as illegal.

Moreover, settlement expansion and construction in the occupied West Bank violate a U.S.-backed Israeli-Palestinian peace plan known as the "road map", which calls for an independent state for the Palestinians.

Peace or settlements?

Denouncing the new Israeli plan, Palestinian chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat, said the move destroys efforts to resume the stalled peace process.



“The Israeli government must choose between settlements and peace. They can not have both,” Erekat said.

Jerusalem is one of the most obstacles to reaching a final peace agreement between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Israel considers all of Jerusalem its eternal capital.

The Jewish state built its major settlement blocs on West Bank land just outside east Jerusalem, and says it would hold on to it in any final peace deal.

On the other hand, the Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of any future Palestinian state. They fear the territory would never be split between them and the Israelis, making peace impossible.

-- AJP and Agencies

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http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/administration/afp-news.html?i...

AFP News brief


UN 'concerned' about reported plans for Israeli settlement expansion


UN chief Ban Ki-moon is "concerned" about reports of plans for Israeli settlement expansion in East Jerusalem, his spokeswoman said here Friday.

"The Secretary General is concerned about the media reports of plans for new settlement construction in East Jerusalem," spokeswoman Michele Montas told a press briefing.

She said that Ban and his top advisers planned to raise the issue with "appropriate Israeli officials" and with the UN's partners in the diplomatic Quartet on Middle East peace -- the United States, the European Union and Russia.

"A halt to settlement expansion is one of the basic obligations" in the Quartet's so-called roadmap for peace, Montas added. The three-stage plan was issued by the Quartet in 2003 with the goal of creating a Palestinian state living side by side with Israel.

"Furthermore East Jerusalem is occupied territory, and its ultimate status is subject to negotiations between the parties," Montas noted.

Thursday, Israel's Haaretz daily disclosed plans to build three new Jewish neighborhoods around Jerusalem in the occupied West Bank sparking Palestinian condemnation.

The plan which foresees the construction of more than 20,000 housing units has been drawn up by a municipal committee and must still be approved by national authorities, the paper said.

Israel conquered east Jerusalem in the 1967 war and later annexed it. A dozen new neighborhoods have since been built there and house more than 200,000 Israelis. Another 245,000 Palestinians live in that part of the city.


News of the project follows a report that Israel is concerned by figures showing that, over the past decade, the number of Arabs living in Jerusalem has grown twice as fast as the city's Jewish population.
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Goku
05-14-2007, 08:24 PM
How terrible, kicking people who lived in that land for centuries out to this day, and the world allows this monstrousity to continue. Military action against Israel should be taken to protect those poor Palestinian people if diplomacy fails, this isnt much further behind the Serb atrocities.
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Sami Zaatari
05-14-2007, 08:34 PM
you know i dont think we should be too down or sad with this. the reason being is because all this is basically meant to happen, Allah's will, it is the bits and pieces being put into place before their end comes. i mean look at it, their placing themselves right in the middle of a majority muslim palestinian population, this will backfire one day, i dont need to quote the hadith from Sahih Muslim talking about the major battle which will take place since most of you know it. but as you can see, all these events are simply working towards that hadith. :) Allah's divine will, as he himself says, as they plot, he plots too, and hes plots are far better!
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yahia12
05-17-2007, 02:22 PM
isrealies deserves freedom to. :)
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NobleMuslimUK
05-17-2007, 04:13 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sami Zaatari
you know i dont think we should be too down or sad with this. the reason being is because all this is basically meant to happen, Allah's will, it is the bits and pieces being put into place before their end comes. i mean look at it, their placing themselves right in the middle of a majority muslim palestinian population, this will backfire one day, i dont need to quote the hadith from Sahih Muslim talking about the major battle which will take place since most of you know it. but as you can see, all these events are simply working towards that hadith. :) Allah's divine will, as he himself says, as they plot, he plots too, and hes plots are far better!
:sl:
Mashallah Akhi,
The muslim ummah need to realise what is happening is because Allah SWT allows it. It might seem bad or evil to us whats happening but, under such cicumstances patience has been prescribed, because Allah SWT will bring out good from it InshAllah. And surely Allah SWT knows best.
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islamirama
05-17-2007, 04:20 PM
That is a poor excuse to accept the state we are in today. Allah didn't make us miserable, we did that to ourselves. Allah says in ash-Shura:

"Whatever of misfortune striketh you, it is what your right hands have earned. And He forgiveth much."

So what we need to do is repent for our going astray and come back to Islam, only then will we live in honor. Victory is promised to those that stick to Islam and humiliation and defeat to those that abandon this faith.
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NobleMuslimUK
05-17-2007, 04:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama
That is a poor excuse to accept the state we are in today. Allah didn't make us miserable, we did that to ourselves. Allah says in ash-Shura:

"Whatever of misfortune striketh you, it is what your right hands have earned. And He forgiveth much."

So what we need to do is repent for our going astray and come back to Islam, only then will we live in honor. Victory is promised to those that stick to Islam and humiliation and defeat to those that abandon this faith.
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Completely agree, but what about the muslims who bow under political pressure, and are ready to further abandon their faith, so called secular muslims. The west has been pushing this idea and imposing it in the middle east ever since the zionists took over Palestine. If you look at the world map, try finding Palestine on there, all you see is Israel. The zionist lobby in washington is pumping huge amounts of money, and they have pocketed anyone with authority. Just look at the Bush administration everyone one of them is pro-zionist, same goes for the British government. Codeleza Rice is fully active in her campaign as promoting the zionists as the victims, same goes for the mainstream media. I really dont care much for politics, but I have to talk on this level to explain to the muslims who have forgotten their purpose in life. May Allah guide us all. Ameen.

Allah SWT knows best.
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islamirama
05-17-2007, 04:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by NobleMuslimUK
:sl:
Completely agree, but what about the muslims who bow under political pressure, and are ready to further abandon their faith, so called secular muslims. The west has been pushing this idea and imposing it in the middle east ever since the zionists took over Palestine. If you look at the world map, try finding Palestine on there, all you see is Israel. The zionist lobby in washington is pumping huge amounts of money, and they have pocketed anyone with authority. Just look at the Bush administration everyone one of them is pro-zionist, same goes for the British government. Codeleza Rice is fully active in her campaign as promoting the zionists as the victims, same goes for the mainstream media. I really dont care much for politics, but I have to talk on this level to explain to the muslims who have forgotten their purpose in life. May Allah guide us all. Ameen.

Allah SWT knows best.

The leaders of Muslim countries are corrupt and tyrants. But the people (majority) themselves are corrupt as well who waste their times in movies, gambling, fornication, imitation of the west, and many other things. The leader is representative of the people. Good people choose good leaders and bad people choose bad leaders. Only exception i would think is palestine, where the people choose hamas over the kuffar fateh gov't and the hypocrite promoters of democracy didn't like that.

But inshallah we should strive to do what we can and give dawaah and make dua and wait for the time, as the time is near when everyone will be dealth with by Allah.
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NobleMuslimUK
05-17-2007, 06:31 PM
:sl:
In the west theres a need to spread Islam but it seems in the muslim countries they have stop appreciating the gift of Islam, they striving for a western way of life. Everyone I know in Pakistan wanna come to England no matter what it takes, a lot of people have gotten visas by claiming they are ahmedi, how sad.
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Darkseid
05-18-2007, 12:21 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serdar
isrealies deserves freedom to. :)
My friend who is a muslim Kurd from Norway is seeking to make peace between Israelis, Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Iranians, and Assyrians. Trust me he is the kind of guy that will succeed.

He might even be the Imam foretold in the quran.
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NobleMuslimUK
05-18-2007, 11:32 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Darkseid
My friend who is a muslim Kurd from Norway is seeking to make peace between Israelis, Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Iranians, and Assyrians. Trust me he is the kind of guy that will succeed.

He might even be the Imam foretold in the quran.
What nonesense....
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Darkseid
05-19-2007, 03:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by NobleMuslimUK
What nonesense....
Really? Quite a typical absurd thing to say since you haven't even met the guy.
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