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*noor
05-13-2007, 10:56 PM
Did prophet Ibraheem (3alaihissalaam) come before or after prophet Musa (3alaihissalaam)?

and was the name of the Book that was revealed to him called al zaabur?
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rubiesand
05-13-2007, 11:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Noor
Did prophet Ibraheem (3alaihissalaam) come before or after prophet Musa (3alaihissalaam)?
Before.



format_quote Originally Posted by Noor
and was the name of the Book that was revealed to him called al zaabur?
No, the Zabur was revealed to Dawud (alaihis salam).
The Suhuf(scrolls) were revealed to Ibrahim (alaihis salam)
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- Qatada -
05-13-2007, 11:38 PM
:wasalamex


Prophet Ibraheem was a Messenger. I don't think it's mentioned what scripture he had, but it is mentioned that it was a 'suhuf' [scripture] - but i don't think theres a mention of what it was called.
[إِنَّ هَـذَا لَفِى الصُّحُفِ الاٍّولَى - صُحُفِ إِبْرَهِيمَ وَمُوسَى ]

(Verily, this is in the former Scriptures -- the Scriptures of Ibrahim and Musa.) This Ayah is similar to Allah's statement in Surat An-Najm,


[أَمْ لَمْ يُنَبَّأْ بِمَا فِى صُحُفِ مُوسَى - وَإِبْرَهِيمَ الَّذِى وَفَّى - أَلاَّ تَزِرُ وَزِرَةٌ وِزْرَ أُخْرَى - وَأَن لَّيْسَ لِلإِنسَـنِ إِلاَّ مَا سَعَى - وَأَنَّ سَعْيَهُ سَوْفَ يُرَى - ثُمَّ يُجْزَاهُ الْجَزَآءَ الأَوْفَى - وَأَنَّ إِلَى رَبِّكَ الْمُنتَهَى ]

(Or is he not informed with what is in the Scriptures of Musa. And of Ibrahim who fulfilled (or conveyed) all that (Allah ordered him to do or convey): that no burdened person (with sins) shall bear the burden (sins) of another. And that man can have nothing but what he does. And that his deeds will be seen. Then he will be recompensed with a full and the best recompense. And that to your Lord is the End (Return of everything).) (53:36-42) And so forth, until the end of these Ayat.

Tafsir Ibn Kathir Surah Al A'la (87:19)

Prophet Ibraheem was the father of two sons; Isma'eel and Isshaaq.


Prophet Isma'eel would be the father of the arabs, and from his lineage would come Allaah's final Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him.)

Prophet Isshaaq would be the father of the jewish race.



Isshaaq had a son called Ya'qub (also known as Israeel), and Ya'qub/Israeel had 12 sons. One of these sons was Prophet Yusuf. These 12 sons would be the fathers of all the 12 tribes of the Jews.

We know the story of Prophet Yusuf, and from this - the children of Prophet Ya'qub/Israeel moved to Egypt. Yet there were only 12 brothers at this time.


As centuries passed by, maybe even milleniums - the number of the Children of Israeel [Ya'qub] grew - to the extent that they were in there thousands (starting from 12 only [inc. Prophet Yusuf]), or maybe even much more than that.

Even though at the time of Prophet Yusuf - he was king of Egypt, it went to the extent that gradually the children of Israeel became weak/oppressed. And the Pharoah dynasty started, so they would oppress the children of Israeel, and they became the slaves of the Pharoahs.


This is when Prophet Moses came, and this was many centuries after Prophet Yusuf son of Israeel [Ya'qub.] And he brought them from the weakest nation on the earth to the land of Palestine. Allaah had made a covenant/trust with the children of Israeel that if you obey the Messengers' I send you - I will allow you to stay in this blessed land.

Prophet Dawud [David] conquered the land of Palestine after Prophet Moses had died (by beating Jaaloot/Goliath), and the children of Israeel were allowed to settle in that land with all its good from Allaah. He became king and he became a Prophet of Allaah, and the Zaboor [Psalms] was revealed to him.

After him came many other Prophets of Allaah, many among the children of Israeel were rebellious, this continued until the people became really corrupt, so Jesus son of Mary came as a Messenger and he would be the last of the Prophets among the children of Israeel.


After Jesus son of Mary was raised up to Allaah, many many sects already began to spread. And within a few centuries, the whole concept of Jesus son of Mary's message had become corrupted. Now the whole world was in a state of misguidance, so Allaah revealed the final Message to His final Prophet, the direct descendant of Isma'eel, the son of Ibraheem, and he would bring the whole of mankind out of the darkness into the light by the will of Allaah. He is the seal of the Prophets, and there will be no Prophets or Messengers after him. He is Muhammad, son of Abdullah. He came for all of mankind, and the revelation revealed to him will be preserved by Allaah until it is near the final hour - the Day of Ressurection.



We know that the blessed land of Palestine is for the believers and those who support the Prophets. Therefore the land was for the children of Israeel so long as they kept their covenant with Allaah, once they started rejecting the Messengers' and killing others unjustly - they broke their covenant, so Allaah never had to keep His side of it either.

That's why the land truelly belongs to the believers, and if the Children of Israeel have rejected Allaah's Messengers (specifically Prophet Yahya/John, Prophet Jesus son of Mary, Muhammad (peace be upon them) - then why should Allaah give them that land? It belongs to the believers. This is why they were expelled from the land, and they agree - that it is due to their sins that Allaah has removed them from it.


Similarly, we are going through these trials in that land because alot of muslims also started turning away from the religion of Allaah, and He will only grant it back to us when He knows that we are worthy of it. May Allaah grant this ummah security, and revive it once again through our good works soon, ameen.



And Allaah knows best.

If you have anymore questions - please don't hesitate to ask inshaa Allaah.



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*noor
05-15-2007, 05:14 AM
jazakum Allah khair
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