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tomtomsmom
05-21-2007, 05:21 PM
This is a hypothetical question. If a muslim was doing something they shouldn't(listening to music) and another muslim says that they shouldn't do that cause it is harram but the one who says that is doin stuff way worse (having sex before married) how should you react. Would you say to the other that they are worse? Grin and bear it? what?
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05-21-2007, 05:31 PM
good question.

no, cuz that wont help. saying oh ur worse than me, and who thnk u r giving advice me to me. WONT HELP.

Should use that moment to guide the brother. help each other out, say you'll stop listening to music, and inshallah that will encourage to stop committing zina with other women
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- Qatada -
05-21-2007, 05:38 PM
You shouldn't really say that i'm better than you since that is looking down on people, and only Allaah knows who is better. So we leave that upto Allaah. Looking down on people can also be a form of arrogance.


'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "No one who has an atom's weight of pride in his heart will enter the Garden."

A man said, "And if the man likes his clothes to be good and his sandals to be good?" He said, "Allah is Beautiful and loves beauty. Pride means to renounce the truth and abase (look down on) people." [Sahih Muslim]


The best thing to do is to stop/forbid the evil act anyway, even if you do sins. Since all of the children of Adam sin, but the best of sinners are those that repent.


If they insult you by saying you do worser sins, then that is also a reality check for the person who is enjoining the good/forbidding the evil to do the permissible instead of doing the forbidden.


And Allaah knows best.
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ummzayd
05-21-2007, 05:50 PM
salaam/peace

I would say, either the Muslim listening to music disagrees about it being haram, in which case they can exchange daleel (evidence). If neither is convinced by the other's argument they must amicably agree to differ. It is probably better to treat it as a separate issue, because surely we are all sinners and yet we can still advise each other? (to be honest the situation you describe would bother me but sometimes we have to put our feelings aside).

Is the person who is having sex before marriage open about it? If so it should be easy to give them advice and urge them to repent & stop sinning - there is no difference of opinion about whether fornication is haram or not!

however if this is not openly spoken about or admitted then you (or whoever) need to be very careful because in Islam it is forbidden to accuse someone of fornication or mention this unless there are witnesses to the actual act (not just seeing someone 'canoodling' or hearing noises through the wall etc.).

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05-21-2007, 06:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by tomtomsmom
This is a hypothetical question. If a muslim was doing something they shouldn't(listening to music) and another muslim says that they shouldn't do that cause it is harram but the one who says that is doin stuff way worse (having sex before married) how should you react. Would you say to the other that they are worse? Grin and bear it? what?
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Just say Jazakhallah khair for your advice. Brother now that you have given me some perhaps i can offer you some etc

Oh yeah and i have read many fatwa regarding music and i am yet to be convinced it is haraam.

:statisfie

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