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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 06:31 PM
Hello my name is Robiul Ahmad and im 15 years of age and am a muslim.:thumbs_up
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*~Sofia~*
05-22-2007, 06:33 PM
salam bro

welcome to the forums, hope u have a beneficial stay inshallah.
enjoy ur stay!

wasalam
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Beblessed
05-22-2007, 06:37 PM
Welcome bro & have a benificial stay here inshallah :)
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 06:37 PM
Thank you
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'Abd al-Baari
05-22-2007, 06:41 PM
:sl:

Welcome to the forums bro :)
Mashallah your only a year older than me...always nice to have people the same age as you on the forums!
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 06:42 PM
Salamualikum.
Om.. you from brummy aswel, your my homie aswel hmpfft. Anywho welcome blud ahve fun stay active take care do dua'ah be good be nice be kindish.
ya am a MUSLIM probelm? nah? ya? :p
ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 06:46 PM
hey,well if love a girl and i want to ask her out (i think she will say yes) but im not sure if i will comitte goonaa if i do go out wiv her. When im ready when im older i probaly aske her to marry me. but atm im confused on wht to do .
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 06:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
hey,well if love a girl and i want to ask her out (i think she will say yes) but im not sure if i will comitte goonaa if i do go out wiv her. When im ready when im older i probaly aske her to marry me. but atm im confused on wht to do .
Salamualikum.
Awww bless.
When you are committing a big sin cause in Islam it's not allowed for a person to go out with the next gender because the third person with you at that moment of time is Satan. Just be on the safe side. Nowaday's we all gotcha lower out gaze blud inshallah. Remember this life is a test we gotcha achieve our aspirational goali and enter janah inshallah.
Don't hurt allah subwhnatallah you walk towards him he will run towards you. You long time left inshallah you can get married to her once ya older just follow the sunnah now and just be good and make family happi and allah subhnwatallah ya blud?

Just flex and stay on safe side, be good. When ya older ask her to marry ya but now let her go and let it be it even if it may hurt ya to leave her but would it be allah subhwnatallah or that gyal?
that gyal won't be there for ya when you be asked questions infront ya lord on day of ressurection so just take it easy, then once grown go ta mama n papa and ask them for arragment ya?

no marriage yet, lower gaze *hard i know* but gotcha be done inshallah, hang around with good pals we all know tis hard down in brummy exspecially in Alum Rock :X


take care, and take it easy. Any mo questions then ask ya

ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 06:56 PM
ok but wht if im too late to aske her too marry me ??
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 06:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
ok but wht if im too late to aske her too marry me ??
Salamualikum.
You mean death?
well you know just focus on your education now, not long to go before you leave school ya then get married to her inshallah. Just do whats best for you and follow the rules of Islam then there's no problem ya?
ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 07:02 PM
i have had a hard life to grow up and i just hada heart attack 2 weeks ago and i dont know if im gona live for a long tym. i have been stabbed 3 tyms too. well i want something good to come out of me life for da first tym.
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 07:05 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
i have had a hard life to grow up and i just hada heart attack 2 weeks ago and i dont know if im gona live for a long tym. i have been stabbed 3 tyms too. well i want something good to come out of me life for da first tym.
Salamualikum.
Were you in Newspapers by any chance?
am sowiee to hear that thats horried! :cry:

anywho bro i sincerly say your young a get married at this age c'mon we all want a perfect life and at but life sux thats why were still learning init, it gotcha be done one way or another ya. Have patience and just take it easy and once your about 17 or so get married to her if ya life even though i say thats still young by nowadays see people who are 13 married :rollseyes

Take it easy, hope Allah easy your pains. Were all getting teasting in different ways blud.

I know how ya feel, just flex

We all want sumet gud in life but we can't let that heppen unless we don't abide the rules *Sunnah*init blud agree?

Take care

Ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 07:06 PM
and i have took drugs and ciggaettes so far for the stress and ino it is haraam
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 07:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
and i have took drugs and ciggaettes so far for the stress and ino it is haraam
Salamualikum.
Oh marn thats bad. I know cigs kindish take ya out of stress and that but one you start on them you just mess ya life more and then end up in dull. Trust me been there done that. Still trying best to stop gagging for one. Stress can be done in other ways not only cigs and that belive me i have realised that now aswel, after taking all them cigs and drugs washectic now look at me me in pain from top ta bottom why because taking all them drugs, but still gag for 'em
But hey just look on bright side were muslims who follow? Muhammmad (P.B.u.H)
Look, i know tis hard but lets be good init?
ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 07:10 PM
well i just started again i stoped for like 2 or 3 months now i startedted agian i wanna stop but how ??
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 07:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
well i just started again i stoped for like 2 or 3 months now i startedted agian i wanna stop but how ??
Salamualikum.
I gotcha bounce now be back in 5mins inshallah, and will get back to this post on how i stoipped smoking inshallah. Remember after all am a revert to Islam. Was a christain before. Am sure if me can do it u can anal
ma'assalama
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 07:51 PM
Salamualikum.
About smoking and that, you gotcha take it easy. Go to local Doctor take Nicotine patches, Nicotine bubble gum. You can also take injections regulary but thats too hectic tho. Just chew on something often and maybe drink more pop and drink milk which will release more energy to your bones cause when your down and feel low you tend to pull a cig or a joint out ya pocket or somet but try drinking milk which will ease the pain in your body.

How i stopped was literally when i became a muslim, i got my teacher who is my Aalimah now teaching me my rights and wrongs as a muslim. She told me a brief story about how it can effect a beliver and there act, how harmful it is to us. She even told me this body is not ours but were just looking after to it, one shall leave there soul. So why harm allah's thing that he has made us. Thats just wrong. it even states in the Qura'an aswel one shall not harm body *me not sure what verse tho*

anywho like i said take it easy, see a doctor before you get abit too tooo far. There's always hope just have trust in Allah. Do dua'ah best thing ever inshallah.

Hope it goes all well, and luck after your self aswel. :D

Ma'assalama
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England
05-22-2007, 07:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Salamualikum.
I gotcha bounce now be back in 5mins inshallah, and will get back to this post on how i stoipped smoking inshallah. Remember after all am a revert to Islam. Was a christain before. Am sure if me can do it u can anal
ma'assalama

I think you need to edit a word in there :rollseyes or at least mask it :X
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 07:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
I think you need to edit a word in there :rollseyes or at least mask it :X
pardon What word:?

have i said something bad or sumet? please tell me
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 07:57 PM
hey r ya gonna giv me addice on how to stop or not ??
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 07:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
hey r ya gonna giv me addice on how to stop or not ??
Salamualikum.
I have give you advice blud, want more?
ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 07:59 PM
oh soory
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 07:59 PM
never knew sos
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:00 PM
Salamualikum.
Chill it's right, i have commented on your other thread about wanting advice aswel. Check that one aswel ya.
ma'assalama
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:02 PM
Salamualikum.
Patches, gum
and more
Nicotine products like patches and gum are often called Nicotine Replacement Therapy, or NRT for short. They help you to deal with nicotine withdrawal cravings, and double your chances of successfully going smokefree.

NRT works differently to cigarettes. It does not contain toxic chemicals like tar or carbon monoxide, and does not cause cancer.

You can get NRT on prescription, so being smokefree doesn't have to be expensive. NRT is suitable for most people, however you should check with your doctor if you are pregnant, have a heart or circulatory condition or if you take regular medication.

Nicotine gum
When you chew nicotine gum, the nicotine is absorbed through the lining of your mouth.

Nicotine patches
Nicotine patches work well for most regular smokers and can be worn round the clock (24 hour patches) or just during the day (16 hour patches).

Microtabs
These are small tablets containing nicotine which dissolve quickly under your tongue.

Lozenges
Lozenges are sucked slowly to release the nicotine and take about 20-30 minutes to dissolve.

Nicotine nasal spray
The spray delivers a swift and effective dose of nicotine through the lining of your nose.

Inhalators
Inhalators look like a plastic cigarette. The inhalator releases nicotine vapour which gets absorbed through your mouth and throat. If you miss the 'hand to mouth' aspect of smoking, these may suit you.

Other treatments
Zyban (Bupropion Hydrochloride)
Zyban is a treatment which changes the way that your body responds to nicotine. You start taking Zyban a couple of weeks before you quit and then continue the treatment for a few weeks to help you through the withdrawal cravings. It's only available on prescription and is not available if you are pregnant.

Champix
A new stop smoking treatment called Champix is now available on prescription and guidance on its use is expected from NICE, the organisation that assesses new treatments, in July 2007.
Ma'assalama
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England
05-22-2007, 08:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
pardon What word:?

have i said something bad or sumet? please tell me
You just spelt something wrong and it's come out wrong that's all.


Ring the advice helpline to quit drugs and smoking...

Smoking helpline:0800 169 0 169
Drugs Helpline: 0800 77 66 00
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Greetings.
^ Blud he's too young to do that, well am shy don't know about him :X
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Salamualikum
1. Get professional help… Ring the helpline on Freephone 0800 169 0 169 for information and advice. Pregnant women seeking help in stopping smoking can call the pregnancy Quitline on 0800 169 9169. Specialist helplines are also available in Asian languages. Your doctor, pharmacist, or health visitor should also give advice and they should tell you if there are special services for smokers in your area. See also ASH’s quitting links for further help and resources.

2. Prepare mentally… You are not alone! 70% of British smokers would like to quit and about three million try each year. More than 11 million people in Britain have quit and are now ex-smokers. However, it can be tough and you will need lots of willpower to break the hold of nicotine – a powerful and addictive drug. An important part of this is to know what you would gain and what you would lose from stopping smoking. One ex-60-a-day smoker (Allen Carr, author of best-selling The Easy Way to Stop Smoking) says:

"there is absolutely nothing to give up… there is no genuine pleasure or crutch in smoking. It is just an illusion, like banging your head against a wall to make it pleasant when you stop."

3. Demolish smoking myths… Soon after smoking a cigarette the body and brain start to want more nicotine and many people begin to feel increasingly uncomfortable until they have the next cigarette. Smoking feels pleasurable, but much of the pleasure of smoking is relief of withdrawal from nicotine. There are times that many people feel distracted or unable to enjoy themselves because they are not able to smoke. This is nicotine withdrawal in action. If you see it this way, cigarettes are not a familiar friend but more like a greedy parasite demanding constant attention.



4. Understand what to expect… Most people find the first few days difficult and for some it can be a long struggle, but things will typically start to get better after the third or fourth day. Nicotine withdrawal may make you restless, irritable, frustrated, sleepless, or accident prone - but these things will pass and you will quickly start to feel the benefits. See the ASH fact sheet on Stopping smoking: benefits and aids to quitting.



5. Make a list of reasons why you want to stop smoking… It means different things to different people, but if you know what you want from stopping, it could help you through the most difficult moments. Reasons could include some or all of:

q Better all-round health - stopping smoking reduces risk of 50 different illnesses and conditions.

q The risk of a heart attack drops by 50% one year after quitting

q Cancer risk drops with every year of not smoking

q Live longer and stay well - one in two long-term smokers die early and lose about 16 years of life

q Set a good example to children - I don't want to be a smoking role model

q Have lots of money to spend on other things - smoking 20 a day costs around £1,800 per year

q Improved fitness and easier breathing – better at sports and getting up stairs

q Better chance of having a healthy baby

q Food and drink tastes better

q Better skin and complexion, and no early wrinkles

q Fresher smelling breath, hair and clothes, and no more cigarette smells around the house

q Back in full control and no longer craving or distracted when I am not smoking or not able to smoke

q Travel on trains, aircraft, buses will be easier

q Work will be easier and I won’t have to spend so much time outside

q Don't want to support tobacco companies

q Concern about environmental impact of tobacco growing

q Other …………………………………………….









6. Consider the money… Main brand cigarettes now cost almost £5.00 for a packet of 20. The table shows how much smoking costs at current prices.



Cigarettes

Per day
Years of smoking

1
5
10
20
50

5
£456
£2,280
£4,560
£9,120
£22,800

10
£912
£4,560
£9,120
£18,240
£45,600

20
£1,825
£9,125
£18,250
£36,500
£91,250

40
£3,650
£18,250
£36,500
£73,000
£182,500




7. Set a date… Some people make a New Year’s Day resolution, others pick their birthday, and you can join in with others on No Smoking Day - the second Wednesday of every March - when up to a million smokers have a go. Any day will do, but choosing a date will help mental preparation.



8. Involve friends or family… If you live with someone else who smokes, it will be much easier to quit if you do it together. One common mistake is not to take the effort to quit smoking seriously enough. Really putting your whole commitment behind it will help you have the right frame of mind to face the challenge.



9. Deal with nicotine withdrawal…Nicotine is a powerful addictive drug (see ASH fact sheet on nicotine) and you can roughly double the chances of successfully quitting smoking by using nicotine replacement therapies such as patches, lozenges, inhalers, and/or gum. The idea is to come off nicotine gradually by using a low nicotine dose to take the edge off the cravings and have a ‘soft landing’. Nicotine products include Nicorette , NiQuitin CQ and Nicotinell. An alternative to nicotine products is the drug Zyban which is only available on prescription. Although it is proven to be effective, as with all drugs there is a risk of side effects and you will need to discuss with your doctor whether this form of therapy would be suitable for you.



10. Other treatments may help… Hypnosis, acupuncture or other treatments may help some people but there isn't much formal evidence supporting their effectiveness. Our advice is to use with caution, but even if they help mental preparation, then they have some value. Herbal cigarettes are pointless - you get all the tar, but nothing to help you deal with nicotine withdrawal. Quit has a good guide to treatments.



11. Find a (temporary) substitute habit… Smoking also involves having something to do with the hands or mouth. Non-smokers manage without this, so it will not be necessary in the long term. But if this is part of the smoking habit, you may need to deal with it. It might be an idea to use chewing gum, drink more water, fruit juice or tea, or to chew or eat something (but see weight gain below!).



12. Deal with any weight-gain worries… Yes it is true: many people do gain weight when they quit smoking. Nicotine changes the appetite and body's energy use (metabolism). Even if you do gain weight it will be worth it if you quit, but if you want to avoid weight-gain then you can prepare. For example, you can change your diet or avoid alcohol, or take more exercise. You may find QUIT’s guide Quit smoking without putting on weight helpful.



13. Avoid temptation… In the difficult first few days you can change your routine to avoid situations where you would usually smoke. For example, it might be worth avoiding the pub on the first Friday night after you quit.



14. If you can’t stop immediately, consider cutting down with NRT… Simply cutting down without setting a target to stop completely rarely works as consumption tends to rise again over time. However, new research shows that smokers who cut down and use nicotine replacement products (patches, gum, etc.) increase their chances of stopping smoking altogether.



15. Watch out for relapse… You will need to be on your guard especially in the first few days and weeks. "I'll have just one, it can't harm" is the top of a long and slippery slope. If you are upset or under pressure, it is really important to fight off the temptation to smoke – don’t let this be an excuse for slipping back. You could lose everything you've achieved just in a momentary lapse
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Ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:08 PM
but if i tell doctors will they tell my parents ??
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England
05-22-2007, 08:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Greetings.
^ Blud he's too young to do that, well am shy don't know about him :X
Too young to do what lol? Ring the helpline?
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
but if i tell doctors will they tell my parents ??
Salamualikum.
Ah. now where getting somwhere, does your parents know you smoke?
ma'assalama
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England
05-22-2007, 08:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
but if i tell doctors will they tell my parents ??
No and you can ask your doctor for confidentiality too.
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
Too young to do what lol? Ring the helpline?
Yes, he's young and afraid anywho England this thread is 'Real and serious' so bounce off
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
No and you can ask your doctor for confidentiality too.
Greetings.
Excuse me! last time i went to doctors they wanted my parents with me* *but don't have any* and wanted my cell number!. This can be a hectic at times because if you go to a nurse she's kewl with it but a doctor ends up calling ya parents!
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England
05-22-2007, 08:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Yes, he's young and afraid anywho England this thread is 'Real and serious' so bounce off

Then he should learn to control his fear as he will be making many phone calls like this in the not-so-distant future. If he wants help then he'll have to pick up the phone and speak to the professionals. They're not going scream and shout at him down the phone. They will HELP him, that's what they're trained for, to help people of all ages to combat drugs and smoking. Age is irrelevant. He's not going to get much help in an Islamic discussion board :rollseyes
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:20 PM
Thank you
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
Then he should learn to control his fear as he will be making many phone calls like this in the not-so-distant future. If he wants help then he'll have to pick up the phone and speak to the professionals. They're not going scream and shout at him down the phone. They will HELP him, that's what they're trained for, to help people of all ages to combat drugs and smoking. Age is irrelevant. He's not going to get much help in an Islamic discussion board :rollseyes
Greetings.
True blud, he can just tell his parents because one way or another his parents will find out. Why hide something from your loved ones Hmpfft Mama Mia.
anywho i have give him enough advice hope he acts upon it and make a first move (God wills)
Take care Yo.
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England
05-22-2007, 08:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Kittygyal
Greetings.
True blud, he can just tell his parents because one way or another his parents will find out. Why hide something from your loved ones Hmpfft Mama Mia.
anywho i have give him enough advice hope he acts upon it and make a first move (God wills)
Take care Yo.
Some parents will throw their kids out if they find that they have been on drugs. If he thinks thye'll help him then great but still those phone numbers is the best option he has. They will help.
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:26 PM
im confused now
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:27 PM
who should i follow follow
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:27 PM
i mean out of you two ?
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:28 PM
Salamualikum.
^ follow snowy! she's telling the truth and the right from talking on her own personal issue :D

anywho, if your family is kewl and calm then i suppose you can talk to them if not just go down to local doctor or call that number i give you, they help an awful lot. Trust me

Ma'assalama
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vpb
05-22-2007, 08:31 PM
:sl:

Welcome. We hope you will have a benifical stay here inshaAllah.
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:31 PM
why r u insullting me
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
why r u insullting me
Salamualikum.
Who's insulting you? tell me who? where? when? how? why? what?
ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:34 PM
england
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:34 PM
he sayin am afraid to amke a phone call
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:35 PM
Salamualikum.
^ Bro chillax dude, i said that actually. My bad. I was talking from my own personal issue. Like i'm kindish shy on cell :X
so me thought you might be aswel.
Sowiee
ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:36 PM
well i only got my mother never seen my dad and i dont want her to be depresed and see tht i have turned in to me dad which i dont want.
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:37 PM
oh ok
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
well i only got my mother never seen my dad and i dont want her to be depresed and see tht i have turned in to me dad which i dont want.
Salamualikum.
:cry: :cry: Oh shoot, same here blud i have no Mom nor papa. :cry: be happy you have Mom atleast, send more time with her and make her life easier aswel.
listen, i think it's going abit too personal now and i think it's best if we stayed in track with helping you how to stop smoking instead of sharing your personal life. I know how you feel it's horried indeed, but thats life.
Remember one day we will all die.

Now about your Mom, i would highly say keep it to your self because i bet your mom is already going thru alot of pain already, so best to stay filrmy away. Inshallah phone that line talk to them if not have you got a close friend whom may help ya or even a cousin or neighbour?

ma'assalama
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:44 PM
yh i do
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 08:46 PM
Salamualikum.
Can't you ask them for some help? like help you to see a doctor or call helpline?
i mean support you
ma'assalama
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SUMMAYAH
05-22-2007, 08:48 PM
Peace and welcome.

Hope things go well 4 u.
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Robiul_Ahmad
05-22-2007, 08:58 PM
yh but they gonna tell me mom
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Kittygyal
05-22-2007, 09:01 PM
Salamualikum.
Well that means there NOT best friends then. Just call that helpline your self please, you take a step forward before too late your already ill as it is get professional help… Ring the helpline on Freephone 0800 169 0 169
Gud luck take care.
I have to go now bed time
ma'assalama
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England
05-22-2007, 09:38 PM
Those 2 numbers I've given you is what you need to ring. The number that Kittygyal is giving you is exactly the same as one of the numbers I have given you.
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Al_Imaan
05-22-2007, 11:27 PM
:welcome: to the forum. Enjoy your stay. I'm sorry to hear about your problems. May Allah make it easy on you.
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Kittygyal
05-23-2007, 03:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by England
Those 2 numbers I've given you is what you need to ring. The number that Kittygyal is giving you is exactly the same as one of the numbers I have given you.
Greetings.
Yes. But isn't the other digits for women who are pregnant and want to stop:?
Take care
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Khayal
05-23-2007, 04:43 PM
:sl:

Welcome here Br!

:w:

.
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Pk_#2
05-24-2007, 03:46 PM
AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh,

Welcome. :D

Be good ...aye *ahem*
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Woodrow
05-25-2007, 12:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Robiul_Ahmad
and i have took drugs and ciggaettes so far for the stress and ino it is haraam
:w:

It is very difficult to quit smoking cigarettes. It took me over 50 years of smoking before I learned how to quit. The first step is to acknowledge, you can not quit. the next step is to ask Allah(swt) to give you a reason to stop. He has given us many reasons why we should not smoke, but we always find a way to say that the reason does not apply to us. We need to actually turn ourselves over to Allah(swt) and admit that He is the only reason we need to quit.

Smoking carries a very heavy price and like all things in life we have to pay the price. I will personally tell you it is a very heavy price and too expensive for the pleasure smoking gives in return. You do not want to pay the full price, it is not worth it. I know you can not quit for your self. But, do your best to quit because you love Allah(swt)
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