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fatima_01
05-27-2007, 01:11 AM
salaams

hpe ur all gd n things anywys i hav recently started to smoke weed again nd i wanna stop so i wanted to knw is it true tht if uve had weed then ur namaaz or any sort of tillawat isnt excepted for fourty days?
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05-27-2007, 10:57 AM
No i think thats only for Alchol, but u gotta stop smoking weed sis. why u taking that crap for.?
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barney
05-27-2007, 11:05 AM
Alcohol is burned out of the system biologically at the rate of 1 unit /hour.
1 unit = a pint of beer or 1 glass of wine.

Cannabis remains in the system for several days.

Obviously , if there is a fatwah on alchohol stick with that, but some better advice is stop the drugs.
They invariably lead to drug induced psychosis which will trash your life permenantly.
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aadil77
05-27-2007, 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
salaams

hpe ur all gd n things anywys i hav recently started to smoke weed again nd i wanna stop so i wanted to knw is it true tht if uve had weed then ur namaaz or any sort of tillawat isnt excepted for fourty days?
yh no namaaz or worship is accepted for 40 days, as you are considered napaak :

It is narrated that in Sahih Muslim: Every intoxicant is khamr (wine) and all Khamr is haraam.

Abdullah ibn Umar reports that the Prophet said, "Whosoever drinks wine, Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it again Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. If he repeats it for the fourth time Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will not accept it and he will be made to drink from the river of impurities (of the inmates of hell).
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- Qatada -
05-27-2007, 05:48 PM
:salamext:


Bro aadil, i'm really sorry brother. I don't think it's mentioned in the hadith that the person is non muslim, so lets not say that just incase for safety reasons.
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aadil77
05-27-2007, 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah
:salamext:


Bro aadil, i'm really sorry brother. I don't think it's mentioned in the hadith that the person is non muslim, so lets not say that just incase for safety reasons.
yh, I was meant to say that some beleive you are considered non-muslim, but iv'e edited it anyway
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Pk_#2
05-27-2007, 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by aadil77
yh no namaaz or worship is accepted for 40 days, as you are considered napaak :

It is narrated that in Sahih Muslim: Every intoxicant is khamr (wine) and all Khamr is haraam.

Abdullah ibn Umar reports that the Prophet said, "Whosoever drinks wine, Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. And if he repeats it again Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will forgive him. If he repeats it for the fourth time Allah will not accept his prayer for 40 days. If he seeks repentance Allah will not accept it and he will be made to drink from the river of impurities (of the inmates of hell).
AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi WAbarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh
That's dhaleel for alcohol not drug use. :-\

Ibn ‘Umar (radiya’Llahu ‘anhu) reported that the Messenger of Allah (salla’Llahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said, “Every intoxicant (muskir) is wine (khamr) and every intoxicant is forbidden. He who drinks wine in this world and dies while he is addicted to it, not having repented, will not be given a drink in the Hereafter.” [12] This hadith is one of the primary texts that prove the prohibition of anything that intoxicates like wine. Ibn Hajar al-Haytami (rahmatu’Llahi ‘alayh), considered to be among the foremost legal authorities of the entire late Shafi‘i legal school, has classified the consumption of hashish (hashisha) and opium (afyun) as an enormity or a major sin. [13] Imam al-Dhahabi (rahmatu’Llahi 'alayh) defined an enormity as “any sin entailing either a threat of punishment in the hereafter explicitly mentioned in the Qur’an and Hadith, a prescribed legal penalty or being accursed by Allah and His Messenger (salla’Llahu ‘alayhi wa sallam).” [14] Among those classical authorities who wrote of the prohibition of hashish were Imam Zarakhshi, Ibn Taymiyya, al-Qirafi, Abu Ishaq al-Shirazi and Imam Nawawi (rahmatu’Llahi ‘alayhim). In short, the four legal schools agree that all intoxicants are unlawful, and they include plants that intoxicate under this category of prohibited substances. [15] There is a misconception among Muslim users that although drugs are unlawful, smoking hashish is not so serious. Or they say that at least we don’t drink! They seem to divide drugs into hard and soft drugs: a division that is quite baseless according to Divine law. All drugs are Class A according to our religion.
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Gangster No.1
05-29-2007, 03:07 PM
:sl:

Alot of people on this site, are not all as good muslims as sum are & sum not.

the sis was only asking a question so chil da f out!

any way smoking weed is very, very addictive, and when sum1 smokes on a daily bbasis with friends and dat, they smoke wed like smoking a fag, normall ting. she is askin because she still wants to no if your allowed to pray!

so chill out, and keep your emotions to yourself!

personally speaking!:phew
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Gangster No.1
:sl:

Alot of people on this site, are not all as good muslims as sum are & sum not.

the sis was only asking a question so chil da f out!

any way smoking weed is very, very addictive, and when sum1 smokes on a daily bbasis with friends and dat, they smoke wed like smoking a fag, normall ting. she is askin because she still wants to no if your allowed to pray!

so chill out, and keep your emotions to yourself!

personally speaking!:phew
salamualikum.
Please watch ya mouth inshallah. This is an islamic forum after all and we are muslims so lets act like muslims then. Yes no one is perfect indeed some are bad some are good ONLY allah subhwnatallah to judge.
Now lets be careful what we say inshallah.

Anon.. please just take it easy and i thought you were Queen but sowiee this is someone else so forgive me inshallah.

Please lets calm down inshallah and forgive one another :)
ma'assalama
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anonymous
05-29-2007, 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
What is the world coming to indeed. To see someone use curse words so casually. Tauba...

Come on, the sister asked for help regarding an issue, she didn't come to be insulted like you just insulted her. What's the need to be houlier-than-thou? Especially when you swear like you just did? :rollseyes
WTF means Wats The point using weed u shud quit For your own gud INIT N DAT dont b so quik 2 judge A-RYYYYYYYYYYT
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aamirsaab
05-29-2007, 03:23 PM
:sl:

Stay on topic please; some of us are actually enjoying our holidays.
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Gangster No.1
05-29-2007, 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Kittygyal
salamualikum.
Please watch ya mouth inshallah. This is an islamic forum after all and we are muslims so lets act like muslims then. Yes no one is perfect indeed some are bad some are good ONLY allah subhwnatallah to judge.
Now lets be careful what we say inshallah.

Anon.. please just take it easy and i thought you were Queen but sowiee this is someone else so forgive me inshallah.

Please lets calm down inshallah and forgive one another :)
ma'assalama
what you quoting me for then?
lol
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Gangster No.1
what you quoting me for then?
lol
Salamualikum.
Oh, easy now tiger take a chill pill dude and FLEX.
Ma'assalama
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Gangster No.1
05-29-2007, 03:35 PM
I chilling more then ever sis, any way chat 2mro.

inabit peeps.lol
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Ummah
05-29-2007, 03:40 PM
Asalaamualaikum

to the people having a go at fatima_01 -

first of all, it takes a better person to realise they need to change something about themselves (and that too fisabilillah!), try to change themselves, and seek help in order to reach that goal.

so enough of the slack please. no person is flawless and only Allah swt is the judge of the gravity of our sins. Helping each other is the only way we reap benefit anyway. what is having a go at her going to except deter her even more?

to Fatima -
in regards to stopping smoking weed, you might find this article interesting: http://www.therevival.co.uk/?p=789
as the people said before, i also think the 40 day limit only applies to alcohol consumption but im rlly not sure about weed... maybe u r better off askin an aalim. i think you can email/phone some aalims, but i dont have any contact details on me im sorry
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islamirama
05-29-2007, 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
salaams

hpe ur all gd n things anywys i hav recently started to smoke weed again nd i wanna stop so i wanted to knw is it true tht if uve had weed then ur namaaz or any sort of tillawat isnt excepted for fourty days?
wa'alaikuma s'salaam,

Anything that causes intoxication is prohibited in Islam according to our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him:


Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If a large amount of anything causes intoxication, a small amount of it is prohibited. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Drinks (Kitab Al-Ashribah), Book 26, Number 3673)"



Illegal drugs such as weed and pot do cause intoxication. Therefore, a large or small amount of it is clearly prohibited in Islam.


Allah Almighty said: "O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper. Satan's plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of God, and from prayer: will ye not then abstain? (The Noble Quran, 5:90-91)"

Noble Verse 2:219: "They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: In both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for men, and THEIR SIN IS GREATER THAN THEIR PROFIT. And they ask you as to what they should spend. Say: What you can spare. Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications, that you may ponder."



The Islamic Perspective:

The objectives of Islamic divine laws are the protection of faith (belief in one God), life ( abortion. suicide, homicide), property (ownership) and the mind (intoxicants). Normally in the brain there is an inhibitory control which tells us not to engage in shameful or wrongful acts. Any suppressant drug including alcohol will suppress this nerve pathways and take away such restraint. Ability to make a judgement, to protect the body or honor, a quality for humans is taken away under the influence of drugs.

There are two main features of Islamic prohibitions:

a) lslam stops the wrong at the inception and not at the end. There is nothing like safe drinking age, or safe drugs to get high. Most of the teenage alcoholics don't buy the alcohol from the store but get it at home. Islam makes equal laws for both children and parents by prohibiting completely (total abstinence), but the West does not. It is for this reason, the West has been crippled to handle the problem of drugs and alcohol, because it has made duel standards.

b) Islam blocks all the avenues to the wrong. Therefore not only illicit sex is prohibited, but casual mixing of sexes freely is prohibited, but obscenity and pornography is prohibited, and in the same context, not only drinking wine is prohibited, but making it , selling it, keeping it, or even growing grapes for the sole purpose of selling it to winery for making wine is prohibited by the Prophet (PBUH). Some 1400 years ago, Allah(swt), our creator and sustainer, who cares for us, sent down following revelation in the following order, mentioned in Quran.

Al Baqarah 2:219: "They ask you concerning wine and gambling." Say: "In them there is great sin, and some profit, for men, but sin is greater than the profit."

Al-Nisa 4:43: "O you who believe! Approach not prayers, with a mind befogged, until you can understand all that you say."

Al-Ma'idah 5:93: "O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divinations by) arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handiwork: Avoid such (abomination) that you may prosper."

Al-Ma'idah 5:93: "Satan's plan is to sow enmity and hatred among you with intoxicants and gambling, and to hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. Will you not then give up."

The above verses came over period of years and when the last verse came, Muslims threw away all the wine into the streets and stopped completely in whatever state they were in, and streets of Medina were flowing with wine.


Sayings of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and about wine and other intoxicants.

1. "Every intoxicant is khamr, and every khamr is haram (unlawful)- reported by Muslim.

2. "Of that which intoxicates in a large amount, a small amount is haram" (Ahmad, Abu-Daud and Al-Tirrnizi,).

3. "Khamar (intoxicants) is the mother of all evils". Reported in Bukhari.

The solutions: There are no easy solutions. In fact it is a multifactorial problem and each aspect should be addressed individually, and seriously, both by the government and by the public. While the total ban on production, import and export is the ideal solution to create a drug free society, by experience (i.e. in the USA with total ban on alcohol in 1920's) it is difficult to achieve unless strict laws are made and enforced on drug producers, traffickers and offenders, a law, that sees distinction between the helpless victim and a powerful drug Lord. Our current system punishes the former and spares the latter. Islam offers such tough laws to influence our morality and health. While we are trying to do these, we in the mean time should pay more attention to the needs of the victim by the education of the masses, social workers, law enforcements agencies and the physicians at the same time developing treatment and rehab centers in large scale as human sufferings continues to grow and son, daughters, husbands and fathers are being lost daily. All these require motivation and commitment from all of us. It is beyond the dignity of a human being to become dependent on alcohol and drugs and not be able to serve himself, his family and his creator in the best possible manner.

http://www.islamcan.com/youthissues.shtml
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Ummah
05-29-2007, 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
Oh please. You just made that up on the spot. Don't lie.

What's the world coming to when people first look down on others who seek help, then swear at them and lie on top of it. :rollseyes

Sorry for indulging in this off-topic, mud-slinging, but anon's behaviour was simply outrageous and nonsensical. Something had to be said.
i was gonna say that too.. its was a ridiculous attempt at getting away with someting. the things people will do to get out of an apology!

but im sure "anon" has learnt his/her lesson now...inshAllah!

so lets just get on with advising Fatima!
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 03:52 PM
Salamualikum.
Can we all stop please end off, just delete the posts brother Dude and lets just gave advice to sis Fatima or not even bother entering the thread please for the sake of Allah subhwnatallah. I can no longer see my fella bludz treating and talking to one another with NO respect please. By us arguing over little things would not help the sister so lets help her as she required for it inshallah. I would sugest you ALL to read the thread about 'anger' inshallah.
Lets just help one another and be one Ummah inshallah :)

Please sis Fatima am asking on behalf of everyone to forgive them inshallah including myself aswel.
I pray Allah subhwnatallah forgives us all and leads us ALL to the right path Amin thumma amin ya rabbil alameen.
Psst: Mods/Admins please DON'T delete my post please.
Ma'assalama
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Dagless
05-29-2007, 04:08 PM
Originally Posted by barney
They invariably lead to drug induced psychosis which will trash your life permenantly.
Some very wise words from Barney. I know your question was about prayer but I just wanted to be sure you understand how dangerous mind altering drugs can be.
As a fellow Muslim I pray you leave the crowd you are in and find better friends. Sorry if this seems harsh, but there is nothing more powerful than the influence of your friends so make sure they are good.
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Dagless
05-29-2007, 04:09 PM
When I said "nothing more powerful" I meant it as a figure of speech - I thought I'd better clear that up before someone shouts at me :)
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fatima_01
05-29-2007, 04:27 PM
hey ppl well huever wrote the comment abt me sayin that i smoke weed casually can get lost cuz i am deeply ashamed of wat i do nd i knw tht i come across as a total *** but wat the hell u hav no right to judge me ok anyways thanks for all ur advice inshallah i will stop doin it but trust me ppl its easier sed then done:p oh n y i do it i honestly hav no idea i suppose at times life either gets 2 boring or 2 much 2 handle dnt u guys ever feel like tht:p....so anyways tc ppl in a bit
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 04:32 PM
Salamualikum.,
^ Forgive and forget sis :)
Inshallah been done that and it's an addictable thingy bob and ya one ya take it you want MORE just like a splif and a joint but take it easy your wrecking ya own life and ya own body hun. Inshallah call landline for more advice and help.
Ma'assalama
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fatima_01
05-29-2007, 04:39 PM
lol its all forgiven and forgotten ;) but ye it is addictive n things n i knw its ruins the body but in some strange way tht doesnt really bother me lol but it will frm now onward inshallah cuz i wanna go madressah again but its really wierd cuz wen ppl first look at me they think im reall innocent n things cuz i wear i juba etc wich makes it even worse but u knw u always get the odd one lol
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 04:44 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
lol its all forgiven and forgotten ;) but ye it is addictive n things n i knw its ruins the body but in some strange way tht doesnt really bother me lol but it will frm now onward inshallah cuz i wanna go madressah again but its really wierd cuz wen ppl first look at me they think im reall innocent n things cuz i wear i juba etc wich makes it even worse but u knw u always get the odd one lol
Salamualikum.
It happens it's right. Just repent now init and be good. Late onwards in life you will regret it like i do NOW. Ya you'l still gag for it but thats it thats life for us
Ma'assalama
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fatima_01
05-29-2007, 04:48 PM
ws

"be good" lol i like the sound of tht;) nah but seriously i hav gne cold turkey yesterday and 2day i am now bck on normal lookin fags hope 2 stop tht 2:p btw how many girls here actually smoke or hav tried a spliff???? god im burstin 2 nw :p
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Ummah
05-29-2007, 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
btw how many girls here actually smoke or hav tried a spliff???? god im burstin 2 nw :p
never smoked or tried a spliff (weed).
ive haerd the arguments that cigarettes are haraam and i completely agree. inshAllah ill never even be tempted to try anything like that.

ur right, its easier said than done but inshAllah tjhe advice people give you on the site will help strengthen ur will power.

can i just ask...when did you first start smoking... was it peer pressure?

this is very cliche but...many times u just need to change the company you have. even the strongest of us can be influenced sometimes. if you stop hangin around with people who smoke weed, or take any illegal substance, and dont associate urself with people who have th means of providing you with the weed... this will help you ALOT inshAllah
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
ws

"be good" lol i like the sound of tht;) nah but seriously i hav gne cold turkey yesterday and 2day i am now bck on normal lookin fags hope 2 stop tht 2:p btw how many girls here actually smoke or hav tried a spliff???? god im burstin 2 nw :p
Salamualikum.
Easy now tiger.

Yes i've taken joints, cigs, splif, drank EVERYTHING whilst i was a christain and NOW regret it because i suffer from the pain. Ya me nephews,me neice's, me sisterinlaw, me homiez, me bludz, me bro's smoke and that and i GAG for it like madly but then i think about it look now am suffering from pain what me going to do when me still carry on. Subhnallah. So now am 'trying' me best to stay away from stuff like at inshallah. Worthless and priceless at the end of the day.

Ma'assalama
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Woodrow
05-29-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
salaams

hpe ur all gd n things anywys i hav recently started to smoke weed again nd i wanna stop so i wanted to knw is it true tht if uve had weed then ur namaaz or any sort of tillawat isnt excepted for fourty days?
If you are going to smoke weed why not do the sensible thing and save money by simply slowly running your brain through a meat grinder? The eventual outcome will be the same and it will save you money.

There are many reasons I am opposed to people smoking weed, except for the rare medical conditions for which it may be beneficial. I won't go into any long lecture, I will just say if you value yourself don't smoke it.
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by Woodrow
If you are going to smoke weed why not do the sensible thing and save money by simply slowly running your brain through a meat grinder? The eventual outcome will be the same and it will save you money.
There are many reasons I am opposed to people smoking weed, except for the rare medical conditions for which it may be beneficial. I won't go into any long lecture, I will just say if you value yourself don't smoke it.
Salamualikum.
Subhnallah! i can't stop laughing to that one ;D

sowiee for ma ignorance. But ya Unlce wordrobe has got a point.

;D
Ma'assalama
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fatima_01
05-29-2007, 05:22 PM
blimey never been tempted:p u do have strong will power:) well my first fag n spliff wer both wen i was abt 13 but bck then it wasnt all the time it was the odd day kind of the thing but at 14 my schooling, madressah, home, family life it all just got 2 much and i suppose thts it. i wudnt say it was peer pressure but ye my friends started at around tht time n wen i was little id seen my bro smoke nd id always thought it lookd really good :p
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
blimey never been tempted:p u do have strong will power:) well my first fag n spliff wer both wen i was abt 13 but bck then it wasnt all the time it was the odd day kind of the thing but at 14 my schooling, madressah, home, family life it all just got 2 much and i suppose thts it. i wudnt say it was peer pressure but ye my friends started at around tht time n wen i was little id seen my bro smoke nd id always thought it lookd really good :p
Salamualikum.
You seem proud of it man. Listen ya keep it low and take it easy
ma'assalama
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fatima_01
05-29-2007, 05:26 PM
lol ye woodrow has a point meat grinder lol gives me the shivers just thinkin abt it:p
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fatima_01
05-29-2007, 05:27 PM
nah nt proud but i am kinda glad tht ive been ther n dne tht so in the future i wnt wanna try anything again
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Kittygyal
05-29-2007, 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by fatima_01
nah nt proud but i am kinda glad tht ive been ther n dne tht so in the future i wnt wanna try anything again
Salamualikum.
Ya respect blud. Inshallah stay firmly away from it init. Be good and keep it low and take it easy. Just keep bouncing with life init.
Ma'assalama
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aamirsaab
05-29-2007, 05:51 PM
:sl:
Original problem solved? Yah man.
Thread lock? Ya man.
Ya man? Ya man!
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