Shalom, I will responded to a few posts I could not let slip by. I hope I offend no one when sharing my views.
The palestinians where once jews, evereyone was something else before muhammed and islam.
I sincerely doubt that the above statement is true. Most likely, they were not Jews.
Arabs and Jews are Semites. Therefore, an Arab (nowadays) can also play the anti-Semitism card
The word "anti-semite" does not mean literally anti any member of humanity who is ethnically a "semite", but means "anti-Jewish".
Not always. When have Jews ever been the majority in Palestine?
As for nowadays, the only reasons for them being temporarily classified as a majority, was after the massive Russian influx of Jews during Gorbachev's reign.
They also became the majority after building illegal settlements from militarily conquered Palestinian land (after the 1967 War, and considered illegal and under occupation, by the U.N.) and not forgetting the continuous ethnic cleansing and daily slaughtering of Palestinian civilians, by the IOF: The Israeli Occupation Forces.
The Jewish people in the 1920's etc made up enough of the population to be granted when the Palestine Mandate was divided 20% of the land which was given to the Jews. While 80% was given the Arabs according to proportions, and that 80% became the state of Jordan. Look at the Palestinians flag and the Jordanian one. Check it out @ google.
They gave it to the Jews after Betraying the Arabs with their Balfour Declaration and I believe the Sykes/Picot Agreement.
On the contrary, a reasonable amount of imigration occured in a place where no one had any national identity, so they divided it.
The area of the Mandate was originally 118,000 square kilometers (about 45,000 square miles). In 1921, Britain took the 91,000 square kilometers of the Palestine Mandate east of the Jordan River, and created Trans-Jordan (later the Arab country of Jordan) as a new Arab protectorate. Jews were barred by law from living or owning property east of the Jordan river, even though that land was over three-fourths of the original Mandate.
In 1923, Britain ceded the Golan Heights (another 1,176 square kilometers of the Palestine Mandate) to the French Mandate of Syria. Jews were also barred from living there. Jewish settlers on the Golan Heights were forced to abandon their homes and relocate inside the westerb area of the British Mandate.
The total remaining area of the Mandate for Palestine, after these land deductions, was just under 26,000 square kilometers (about 10,000 square miles). The southern part of the Mandate – the desert of the Negev – was also closed by the British to Jewish settlement. The area was inhabited by 15,000 roaming Bedouins, and had no Jewish or Arab settlements in it.
The balance of the Mandate, the inhabited part of Palestine, and only the part west of the Jordan, was just 14,000 square kilometers. Jewish immigration was limited by the British from time to time, especially after the periods of Arab riots and severely restricted after 1939. At the same time, Arab immigration was not restricted or even recorded. By 1948, when the State of Israel was founded, 1.8 million people lived the western area of the Mandate, estimated to be 600,000 Jews and 1.2 million Arabs. Following the war between the Jews and the Arabs in 1948, the inhabited areas of the 14,000 square kilometers were divided along cease-fire lines between Israel and Jordan/Egypt. 8,000 square kilometers, or 57% of the reduced area (which is only 6.7% of the original Mandate territory), became Israel. The rest of the area of western Palestine, 5,700 square kilometers of historic Judea and Samaria, was annexed by Jordan – and renamed the West Bank - while 360 square kilometers were occupied by Egypt and called the Gaza Strip.
Although I may not agree 100% due to religious reasons, the Zionist ideology advocates the return of Jews to the land of their ancestors from which they were exiled by brutal military conquests. There were two such major exiles in Jewish history - in 586 BCE and six hundred fifty-eight years later, in 72 AD. Both exiles were associated with the total destruction of Jerusalem, the ancient Jewish capital, and the demolition of its temple. The eastern hill of Jerusalem where the citadel captured by King David once stood, south of the Temple Mound, has been called Mount Zion. This name became synonymous with Jerusalem; hence Zionism.
Halevi immigrated to Israel in 1141. So were hundreds of Jewish Rabbis who immigrated to Israel in 1211, followed by Nahmanides is 1267. And so were hundreds of other Jewish spiritual leaders and scholars and thousands of their followers who came to the Land of Israel over hundreds of years, way before the modern political Zionist movement was even born.
As a result of the perpetual yearning of the Jewish people for the Land of Israel, Jewish communities existed there continuously since the destruction of the Second Temple to date, notwithstanding its destroyed or occupied capital. Obviously, there were Jewish communities in that land since the emergence of the Judaic nation with its unique culture, about thirteen hundred years earlier. The presence of Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Christian Crusaders and Muslim Ottomans in their homeland, did not prevent Jews from maintaining their presence there. It definitely did not reduce the aspiration to regain possession of their land and to rebuild their ancient capital.
So please abandon the notion that millions of Jews who were all white (when over 50% of the Jews in Israel are Arab-Jews) came and began stealing land, when it is not the case.
Cool. Then God Willing, it'll be reconquered again, and returned to its rightful owners, the Palestinians.
This reminds me of Gamal Abdel Nassers quote" "What was taken by force, will be returned by force."
I'm sorry if any Native Americans are offended but the above quote seemed to have failed them.
Although in about 700 years, if Native Americans retake America, from the "white man" then it could be compared to the Jews coming back and reclaiming a land which archeologically proves their existance on it, before the birth of Mohammad.
Its a short clip on Jewish group that says Israel (Zionism) should not exist.
"A Jewish rabbi goes on Fox news to declare that under Judaism, Jews are not meant to have a state and therefore Israel should not exist.
I would just like to point out, that these people are insane. Yes, Zionism and Judaism do not match well together, but these people are full of ignorance when it comes to Jewish law (Halakha). Many violate the Torah in numerous aspects.
I just wanted to warn you that although you may seek out whatever Jewish source you wish, I would not consider the Hashkafah's of these people to be very "Jewish".
Would you allow a barbaric overtake of your home? And be left to sit in the bathroom all day...and when you did come out you were spat at, kicked, beaten....I'll let you think about that.
What a generalization from someone who is part of a religion which is at times unfairly discriminated or grouped together, when Islam is such a diverse religion. Now in turn you are demonizing all Israeli's the same way, they demonize you, the same way Serbs demonized Muslims, the same way nazi's demonized Jews.
I'll let you think about that.
Peace to all of you. I'm not really in the mood to debate, so please if you wish respond, but it is pointless, since we will all believe what we do.