Hi there people of Islam, I come in peace.

[Wykewitch]

Hi everyone!

I'm a pagan from the heart of Dorset. I would love to know more about Muslims as individuals.

I am a pat of a Pagan forum site. There is one chap there who, at every opportunity expresses Islam-phobia bordering on Racism! I'm FED UP with it. By all accounts he has never known a Muslim well (living in the middle of nowhere in Dorset). I find myself defending the right to practice a religion I don't even follow, all the time.

Witches were persecuted in this country for many years and freedom of religion has made me able to practice freely, so I defend everyone else’s right to do the same. He is more the "chuck 'em out the country" type!

He says I know nothing of Islam (despite my other half following a Universal Sufi path for some years, I know its not quite the same but has some rout in Islam I think(?)), and he recently suggested that If I found out more about Islam and Islamic people I would realise what a bunch of hate filled folk you all are(!) So I am here to prove him wrong.

I realise many of you wont agree with my religion, but I hope some of you will agree that just because my religion is not what you believe I cannot be forced into believing otherwise.

Blessings to you all:smile:

[- Qatada -]

Hey wykewitch. :)


I'm sure you'll have a beneficial and enjoyable stay here, and yes you have a freedom of choice in religion since Allaah/God Almighty says in His final revelation:

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. [Qur'an 2: 256]

Thankyou for defending the muslims on that forum which you mentioned, :) And i hope we are able to defend you also on this forum if you get any personal attacks etc.


To get a basic intro on what Islaam truelly is, i invite you to check this site:

http://www.beconvinced.com/en/main.php


I'd also like to mention that Islaam isn't a racist religion, infact 1/5th of the world is Muslim and the numbers are growing still today!


The Messenger of God, Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: 'There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a non-Arab over an Arab, nor for a fair-skinned person over a person with dark skin, nor for a dark-skinned person over a person with fair skin. Whoever is more pious and God-fearing is more deserving of honour.' (Musnad Ahmad)



If you ever have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask! :)



Peace.

[00:00]

welcome man, enjoy ur stay, looking forward to your posts.

[Wykewitch]

Thanks for such a warm welcome Fi_Sabilillah!:statisfie

I looked at the site. Next time I vaguely say Islam is not about Terrorism and putting women down, I have lots of real FACTS I can quote back to him. Brilliant! Thanks! :D

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[Wykewitch]

welcome man, enjoy ur stay, looking forward to your posts.

Thanks Sweety! :)

[- Qatada -]

lol kool. have a comfortable stay here, if you ever have any questions - please don't be afraid to ask since the cure to ignorance is asking! :)



Peace.

['Abd al-Baari]

Hey Wykewitch,

Welcome to the forums :)
Hope you have a good and beneficial stay

If you have any questions..just ask

Peace

[vpb]

:sl:

Welcome, hope you have a benifical stay here inshaAllah.

[FatimaAsSideqah]

Hello Wykewitch,

Welcome to LI Islamic Forum! Don't hesitate any questions to us because we don't mind! :)

Hope you will have an enjoy in here site! Hopefully.

Peace.

[Strzelecki]

Hey Wykewitch. ^^
Welcome to LI. Enjoy.

[Gangster No.1]

hey wassapnin.

what is your ideology as a pagan?

[Muslim Woman]

I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

With the name of ALLAH (swt) -The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful


Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)


&&&

Hi everyone!

I'm a pagan from the heart of Dorset. I would love to know more about Muslims as individuals.

I am a pat of a Pagan forum site. There is one chap there who, at every opportunity expresses Islam-phobia bordering on Racism! I'm FED UP with it. By all accounts he has never known a Muslim well (living in the middle of nowhere in Dorset). I find myself defending the right to practice a religion I don't even follow, all the time.

Witches were persecuted in this country for many years and freedom of religion has made me able to practice freely, so I defend everyone else’s right to do the same. He is more the "chuck 'em out the country" type!

He says I know nothing of Islam (despite my other half following a Universal Sufi path for some years, I know its not quite the same but has some rout in Islam I think(?)), and he recently suggested that If I found out more about Islam and Islamic people I would realise what a bunch of hate filled folk you all are(!) So I am here to prove him wrong.

I realise many of you wont agree with my religion, but I hope some of you will agree that just because my religion is not what you believe I cannot be forced into believing otherwise.

Blessings to you all:smile:

:welcome:


Insha Allah , ( God Willing ) see u around

don't know anything about ur religion....do u believe in God , life hereafter , holy books , Prophets (pbut ) ?

[Goku]

Welcome to the forum.

[glo]

Welcome, wykewitch

If you want to find out about Islam, this is the place to be! :)
In the Comparative Religions section you will come across other faiths too - but enter at your own peril ... it does get heated at times.

Once upon a time I considered myself a pagan too. But then my path took me a different route ...

Peace and blessings

[Woodrow]

Welcome to LI

[Philosopher]

Do u believe in the afterlife?

[Maarya]

welcome...we'll be happy to answer any questions you may hav :)

[Pk_#2]

Peace be upon those who follow guidance,

Welcome :D

looking forward to your posts :)

Be good...

[Al_Imaan]

:welcome: to the forum. Hope you have a beneficial stay.

[Beblessed]

Welcome! :)

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Heyy sisterrrrr. Welcome to LI!
Respect to u for defending us.
InshaAllah (God-Willing) we can do the same with you.
If u have ANY questions/problems, pleasee let us know and we'll be right behind u and got ur back :D

Peace to you! :)

[Curaezipirid]

Hi everyone!

I'm a pagan from the heart of Dorset. I would love to know more about Muslims as individuals.

I am a pat of a Pagan forum site. There is one chap there who, at every opportunity expresses Islam-phobia bordering on Racism! I'm FED UP with it. By all accounts he has never known a Muslim well (living in the middle of nowhere in Dorset). I find myself defending the right to practice a religion I don't even follow, all the time.

Witches were persecuted in this country for many years and freedom of religion has made me able to practice freely, so I defend everyone else’s right to do the same. He is more the "chuck 'em out the country" type!

He says I know nothing of Islam (despite my other half following a Universal Sufi path for some years, I know its not quite the same but has some rout in Islam I think(?)), and he recently suggested that If I found out more about Islam and Islamic people I would realise what a bunch of hate filled folk you all are(!) So I am here to prove him wrong.

I realise many of you wont agree with my religion, but I hope some of you will agree that just because my religion is not what you believe I cannot be forced into believing otherwise.

Blessings to you all:smile:

Salamalaykum and well met wykewitch

I am in Wicca as are many I know here in Australia. Usually we are not orienting our belief into the modern Islamic Ummah, but there is strong anthropological evidence among us that the indigenous wicca tradition here is a manifestation of Islam from our earliest contact with. I believe that Wicca is also aligned with one specific of the pronunciations of Qur'an, (that used by the tribe of Juda and a few other), and is a formation of the first church mentioned in Revelations.

I believe that the witches whom were burned at the stake in Europe were persecuted because of being in Islam.

For example, study of the history of the undermining of midwives and establishment of obstetrics is inimical with the study of other abuses to the Islamic tradition in Europe.

Wicca is a tradition which has many guises and not all of are real Islam though, but that is a part of why only certain Souls are enabled to practise in the pattern of wicca. A person needs to be enabled to inhabit the social regard given to any ordinary criminal, whilst sustaining clear belief in One God, to be able to accomodate the full teaching.

Alaykumuassalam rebeckaq

[north_malaysian]

On behalf of all Malaysian/Indonesian/Singaporean forummers here:

[BANANA]SELAMAT DATANG!!!
(WELCOME!!!)[/BANANA]

[Curaezipirid]

Salamalaykum and well met wykewitch

I am in Wicca as are many I know here in Australia. Usually we are not orienting our belief into the modern Islamic Ummah, but there is strong anthropological evidence among us that the indigenous wicca tradition here is a manifestation of Islam from our earliest contact with. I believe that Wicca is also aligned with one specific of the pronunciations of Qur'an, (that used by the tribe of Juda and a few other), and is a formation of the first church mentioned in Revelations.

I believe that the witches whom were burned at the stake in Europe were persecuted because of being in Islam.

For example, study of the history of the undermining of midwives and establishment of obstetrics is inimical with the study of other abuses to the Islamic tradition in Europe.

Wicca is a tradition which has many guises and not all of are real Islam though, but that is a part of why only certain Souls are enabled to practise in the pattern of wicca. A person needs to be enabled to inhabit the social regard given to any ordinary criminal, whilst sustaining clear belief in One God, to be able to accomodate the full teaching.

Alaykumuassalam rebeckaq

Salam,

I thought more about what I wrote here, and decided to come back and provide a little more precise info to what I know about Wicca as a form of Islam.

There are four schools of Islam. There is also the Sunnah, and following the Sunnah is alike to being in a school following Mohammed in a more personable orientation to his life. While the four schools named schools are each named for a founder of an institutional form of teaching of Islam. There is also Shi'a, and that is similar to be a school in its own right also, but alike to being a school for those whose will is to refute the method of any of the institutionalised forms of prescribed teaching. So that is like six distinct learning methodologies. The other, making seven altogether (there are seven forms of pronouncing Qur'an - alike to seven Churches in Isa/Jesus), is that of undertaking to follow every other of the known schools and teaching methodologies. That is what Wicca adheres to when it is truly in Islam.

A bit like how I jump around a bit between the various internet forums, which usually oriented to a more precise teaching method than what I need. In Wicca the form of learning Islam is that form found only by following the nose in what we fall towards. And by the nature of the method it might not be necessarily very apparent in any organised form. It is often confused with Shi'a, but then also with Sunnah. It is far more agreeable than Shi'a method, and might seem far less disciplined that Sunnah method, but holds an internal discipline which is not always overt.

Alaykumuassalam

[Asyur an-Nagi]

we welcome you to the our capital of hospitality:D
have a beneficial stay, wyk!

[*~Sofia~*]

Peace Wykewitch,

A BIG welcome from me :)
i really hope u enjoy ur stay and find this forum very beneficial. im sure u'll learn all the things u need to know about the religion of Islam here.
If there's anything that u are unsure of or have any questions.. please dnt hesitate in asking.. there's LOADS of clever ppl here that wud b happy to answer any questions u may have :D

enjoy ur stay :)

Peace

[Hashim_507]

Peace be with you,

Welcome to the forum..

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:welcome: to the forum! I hope you have a beneficial stay :)

[ummAbdillah]

Hi there:)
welcome to LI, :) Enjoy your stay!
Take care,

[wafa islam]

Welcome to the Forum Wykewitch.

Thank you for defending Muslims. Please tell if you feel that you are not beeing treated respectfully.

Peace.

[glo]

Salamalaykum and well met wykewitch

I am in Wicca as are many I know here in Australia. Usually we are not orienting our belief into the modern Islamic Ummah, but there is strong anthropological evidence among us that the indigenous wicca tradition here is a manifestation of Islam from our earliest contact with. I believe that Wicca is also aligned with one specific of the pronunciations of Qur'an, (that used by the tribe of Juda and a few other), and is a formation of the first church mentioned in Revelations.

I believe that the witches whom were burned at the stake in Europe were persecuted because of being in Islam.

For example, study of the history of the undermining of midwives and establishment of obstetrics is inimical with the study of other abuses to the Islamic tradition in Europe.

Wicca is a tradition which has many guises and not all of are real Islam though, but that is a part of why only certain Souls are enabled to practise in the pattern of wicca. A person needs to be enabled to inhabit the social regard given to any ordinary criminal, whilst sustaining clear belief in One God, to be able to accomodate the full teaching.

Alaykumuassalam rebeckaq

I am really surprised to read such a thing, Curaezipirid.
I have never heard anybody connecting Wicca with Islam before ...

Perhaps Wykewitch will return to this forum and enlighten us - but to my knowledge and my own experience with Wiccans, they worship various ancient gods, both male and female.
I just cannot see how that connects to Islam at all ... :?

This is what I found on wikipedia:

For most Wiccans, Wicca is a duotheistic religion. The Goddess and God are seen as complementary polarities and this balance is seen in nature. They are sometimes symbolised as the Sun and Moon, and from her lunar associations the Goddess becomes a Triple Goddess with aspects of "Maiden", "Mother" and "Crone". Some Wiccans hold the Goddess to be pre-eminent, since she contains and conceives all. The God is the spark of life and inspiration within her, simultaneously her lover and her child. This is reflected in the traditional structure of the coven.[6] In some traditions, notably Feminist branches of Dianic Wicca, the Goddess is seen as complete unto herself, and the God is not worshipped at all. Wicca is essentially an immanent religion, and for some Wiccans, this idea also involves elements of animism[7] A key belief in Wicca is that the gods are able to manifest in personal form, most importantly through the bodies of Priestesses and Priests. The latter kind of manifestation is the purpose of the ritual of Drawing down the Moon (or Drawing down the Sun), whereby the Goddess is called to descend into the body of the Priestess (or the God into the Priest) to effect divine possession.

According to Gerald Gardner the gods of Wicca are ancient gods of the British Isles: a Horned God and a Great Mother goddess.[8] Gardner also states that a being higher than any of these tribal gods is recognised by the witches as Prime Mover, but remains unknowable.[9]

Some Wiccans have a monotheistic belief in the Goddess as One. Many have a duotheistic conception of deity as a Goddess (of Moon, Earth and sea) and a God (of forest, hunting and the animal realm). This concept is often extended into a kind of polytheism by the belief that the gods and goddesses of all cultures are aspects of this pair (or of the Goddess alone). Others hold the various gods and goddesses to be separate and distinct. Still others do not believe in the gods as real personalities, but see them as archetypes[10] or as thoughtforms. A unified supreme godhead is also acknowledged by some groups. Patricia Crowther has called it Dryghten.[11] Janet Farrar and Gavin Bone have observed that Wicca is becoming more polytheistic as it matures, and embracing a more traditional pagan worldview.[12]
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicca)

I hope wykewitch will come back and tell us what exactly she believes in ... :)

Peace

[BanGuLLy]

:welcome:

[Curaezipirid]

I am really surprised to read such a thing, Curaezipirid.
I have never heard anybody connecting Wicca with Islam before ...

Perhaps Wykewitch will return to this forum and enlighten us - but to my knowledge and my own experience with Wiccans, they worship various ancient gods, both male and female.
I just cannot see how that connects to Islam at all ... :?

This is what I found on wikipedia:


I hope wykewitch will come back and tell us what exactly she believes in ... :)

Peace

Salam glo and Wykewitch

In my knowledge it is that Wicca is held accountible by an Islamic component, which is inclusive of many of those whom are professed in Islam but whom are not openly identifying as either Muslim or Christian.

The point of accepting Islam in the form of Wicca, is so as to prevent all the harm that the shaytan try to do and name magic.

Wicca, when it is truly a form of Islam, is at its basis a socialist teaching, which is in disguise as the criminality of the shayteen. Shayteen really can not distinguish the real Wicca from all the pagan stuff, and lots of wrongful practises get about within the name of Wicca. But the craft is to be able to survive in certain faith in Allah within that context. Real Wicca is lead by a shamanic tradition in which exorcisms of sihr are constantly being engaged in. In many cultural traditions, the real worth of Indigneous health care systems, always relied upon a primitive belief in shamanism, which can best accomodate both Jesus and Islam, within the form that is Wicca. Of course any shaman worth their land will have converted to Islam upon realising that Qur'an is effective in exorcism of the effects of wrong acts of sihr. Many of might also have realised that their work can be effectively leading more folk into Islam, if their identity is not known as a Muslim. That is the tradition.

I have no way of knowing if Wykewitch is a part of that tradition or not, but that she has openly spoken up against defaming Islam, might be an indication that her ancestors have such a tradition in their background.

Salam