Originally Posted by Encolpius
It's a HER NOT
God willing. I will ask her when i see her again. INSHALLAH
Fornication (zina) means to have sex with anyone while not yet married; there are two types of fornication:
1. An unmarried person who has sex with another unmarried person
2. An unmarried person who has sex with a married person; in this case, it is fornication for the unmarried person but adultery for the married person
[Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred, except for just cause, nor commit fornication; and any that does this (not only) meets punishment (but) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy.] (Al-Furqan 25:68-69)
I hope someone else can find the hadith which states a man who has sexual intercourse with a lady is like having intercourse with his Mam. A'oothubillah.
Maybe i have misunderstood what me Aalimah told me. I don't know if she meant like a man forcing a women to have sex is like having sex with his OWN mam OR
i don't know if she meant it as a man and a women having sex before marriage is like having sex with there OWN mam.
What i UNDERSTOOD
from me Aalimah and the closest hadith to that is:
'an ounce of riba (interest) is like having sex with ones parent''
So to my graduate understanding the hadith clearly means if a women has sex before marriage then it's like her having sex with her papa AND
if a dude has sex before marriage is like having sex with his mam.
sex before marriage is haram - but having sex with ones parents are even more grevious
Allah hu ALim (God knows best)
I will look upon to the God willing an dfind the right answer. I think
she meant 'FORCE'
Inshallah i will ask her and get back to you.
For now forgive me if i have said anything bad.
EDIT: BINGO!!! FINALY GOT SOMEWHERE LOL I FEEL BAD NOW! HMPFFT! JUST CALLED ME AaLIMAH SHE TOLD ME HAVING 'FORCE' SEX IS LIKE HAVING SEX WITH ONES PARENTS. SO FOR THIS ISSUE IF IT'S ABOUT 'FORCE' SEXUAL INTERCOURSE THEN THE DUDE IS LIKE HAVING SEX WITH HIS MAM!!
FORGIVE ME PLEASE!