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Khayal
06-15-2007, 05:43 AM
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Superiority of Auliya' and their Marvels




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Allah, the Exalted, says:
"No doubt! Verily, the Auliya' of Allah [i.e., those who believe in the Oneness of Allah and fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden), and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)], no fear shall come upon them nor shall they grieve. Those who believed (in the Oneness of Allah - Islamic Monotheism), and used to fear Allah much (by abstaining from evil deeds and sins and by doing righteous deeds). For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present world (i.e., through a righteous dream seen by the person himself or shown to others), and in the Hereafter. No change can there be in the Words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme success.''
(10: 62-64)
"And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you. So eat and drink.''
(19: 25,26)
"Every time he (Zakariya) entered Al-Mihrab to (visit) her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said: `O Maryam (Mary)! From where have you got this?' She said, `This is from Allah.' Verily, Allah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit.''
(3:37)
"(The young men said to one another): `And when you withdraw from them, and that which they worship, except Allah, then seek refuge in the Cave; your Rubb will open a way for you from His Mercy and will make easy for you your affair (i.e., will give you what you will need of provision, dwelling). And you might have seen the sun, when it rose, declining to the right from their Cave, and when it set, turning away from them to the left...''
(18:16,17)

1503. `Abdur-Rahman bin Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Companions of As-Suffah were poor people. The Prophet (PBUH) said,

"Whoever has food enough for two people, should take a third one (from among them), and whoever has food enough for four persons, should take a fifth or sixth (or said something similar).'' Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) took three people with him while Messenger of Allah (PBUH) took ten. Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) took his supper with the Prophet (PBUH) and stayed there till he offered the `Isha' prayers. After a part of the night had passed, he returned to his house. His wife said to him: "What has detained you from your guests?'' He said: "Have you not served supper to them?'' She said: "They refused to take supper until you come.'' [Abdur-Rahman (Abu Bakr's son) or the servants] presented the meal to them but they refused to eat. I (the narrator) hid myself out of fear. Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) (my father) rebuked me. Then he said to them: "Please eat. By Allah! I will never eat the meal.'' `Abdur-Rahman added: Whenever we took a morsel of the meal, the meal grew from underneath more than that morsel we had till everybody ate to his satisfaction; yet the remaining food was more than what was in the beginning. On seeing this, Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) called his wife and said: "O sister of Banu Firas! What is this?'' She said: "O pleasure of my eyes! The food has increased thrice in quantity.'' Then Abu Bakr (May Allah be pleased with him) started eating. He said: "My oath not to take the meal was because of Satan.'' He took a morsel handful from it and carried the rest to the Prophet (PBUH). That food remained with him. In those days there was a treaty between us and the pagans and when the period of that treaty elapsed, he (PBUH) divided us into twelve groups and every group was headed by a man. Allah knows how many men were under the command of each leader. Anyhow, all of them ate of that meal.
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
There are some more narrations in both Al-Bukhari and Muslim with very minor differences in wordings and in details.


Commentary: We learn the following points from this Hadith:
1. It is permissible to take students of religious schools home for meals, as was the practice in certain areas in the past.
2. A father can admonish his children for disciplinary purposes.
3. If a better situation develops, one can break his vow and go for the new and better choice. It is, however, necessary to expiate for breaking the vow.
4. This Hadith affirms miracles. This is evident from the fact that a small quantity of food was so blessed by Allah that all the members of the family, guests, the Prophet (PBUH) and twelve "Arif'' (leader) along with their companions took that food. (Gist of the text of Hadith from Fath Al-Bari, Kitab Al-Manaq.)

1504. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "There were Muhaddithun (the recipients of Divine inspiration) among the nations before you. If there is any of such Muhaddith among my followers, he must be `Umar.''
[Al-Bukhari].
In Muslim, this Hadith is narrated by `Aishah (May Allah be pleased with her), and in both these narrations Ibn Wahb has said that the meaning of Muhaddithun is recipients of Divine inspiration.

Commentary: "Mulhamun'' [persons endowed with inspiration]; in other words, things are put in their hearts by Allah, it was done in the case of the mother of Prophet Musa. It was put in her mind by Allah that if she felt any fear, she should then trust the child to the sea. Maryam (Mary) also used to receive inspiration, which is also a form of marvel. This Hadith evidently shows the distinction of `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him).

1505. Jabir bin Samurah (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The inhabitants of Kufah complained to `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) against Sa`d bin Abu Waqqas (May Allah be pleased with him) and `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) appointed `Ammar (May Allah be pleased with him) as Governor of Kufah in his place. Their complaint was that he did not even conduct As-Salat (the prayers) properly. `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) sent for Sa`d and said to him: "O Abu Ishaq, the people claim that you do not offer the Salat properly.'' Sa`d replied: "By Allah! I observe Salat according to the Salat of the Messenger of Allah (PBUH), and I make no decrease in it. I prolong Qiyam (standing) in the first two Rak`ah in Maghrib and `Isha' prayers and shorten in the last ones.'' `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) said: "This is what I thought of you, O Abu Ishaq!'' Then he sent with him a man (or some men) to Kufah to investigate the matter about him (from the people of Kufah). The inquiry was conducted in every mosque and all the people in these mosques praised him; but in the mosque of the Banu `Abs, a man, with the name of Usamah bin Qatadah and surname Abu Sa`dah, stood up and said, "Sa`d bin Abu Waqqas did not participate in Jihad and he did not distribute the spoils equitably and did not judge justly.'' On this Sa`d said: "I shall make three supplications in respect of him: O Allah! If this slave of Yours is a liar and seeker of notoriety, please prolong his life and lengthen his period of adversity and afflict him with trials.'' (And so did it happen.) Thereafter, when the man was asked about his condition he would say, "I am an old man afflicted with trials and overtaken by the curses of Sa`d.''
`Abdul-Malik bin `Umair (a subnarrator) said: I saw this man with eyebrows hung over his eyes as a result of his old age and he walked aimlessly, following young girls and winking at them.
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Commentary: This Hadith brings out the following four points:
1. The distinction of Sa`d bin Abu Waqqas (May Allah be pleased with him) and the fact that his prayers were granted by Allah.
2. The principle that if inquiry is conducted against anybody, one should inquire the opinion of the righteous and worthy people about the person against whom complaint is made.
3. Government officials can be dismissed in the interest of public good, as `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) dismissed Sa`d bin Abu Waqqas although the complaints made against him were false, but `Umar thought it wise to dismiss him so that no one amongst his subject would show hatred towards him.
4. This Hadith also proves the correctness of marvels. The acceptance of the prayer of Sa`d bin Abu Waqqas is an instance of it.

1506. `Urwah bin Az-Zubair (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Arwa bint Aus brought a suit against Sa`id bin Zaid bin `Amr bin Nufail (May Allah be pleased with him). She complained to Marwan bin Al-Hakam that he had wrongfully taken possession of a portion of her land. Sa`id said: "How can I take a portion out of her land while I have heard a denunciation from the Messenger of Allah (PBUH).'' Marwan asked him: "What did you hear from the Messenger of Allah?'' He said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, `He who takes a span of land unjustly will be made to wear seven earths round his neck on the Day of Ressurection'.'' Marwan said to him: "I don't seek proof from you after this.'' Sa`id supplicated: "O Allah! If she is a liar, deprive her of her eye sight and cause her to die in her land.'' `Urwah said: "She did not die till she became blind. While she was walking in her land (concerning which the dispute arose) she fell down into a pit and died.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
In another narration of Muslim, Muhammad bin Zaid bin `Abdullah bin `Umar said that he had seen Arwa blind, feeling for on the walls with her hand and saying: "I am ruined by the curse of Sa`id.'' Later she fell in a well in the same disputed land and died.


Commentary: Sa`id bin Zaid was an eminent Companion of the Prophet (PBUH) and had the honour of being one from the group of Al-`Ashratul-Mubashsharuna bil-Jannah Marwan bin Al-Hakam (May Allah be pleased with him) was governor of Al-Madinah during the caliphate of Mu`awiyah, and the incident quoted in this Hadith relates to that particular period. After Mu`awiyah bin Yazid, he remained caliph for some months.
This Hadith brings into prominence the following points:
1. The distinction of Sa`id bin Zaid and the marvel which came about with the acceptance of his prayer by Allah.
2. One should always save oneself from the curse of the pious people because the punishment can occur in this very life.

1507. Jabir bin `Abdullah (May Allah be pleased with them) said: My father called me on the evening before (the battle of) Uhud and said: "I perceive that I shall be among the first from among the Companions of the Prophet (PBUH) to be martyred, and after him you are the dearest to me. I am under the burden of debt. Pay it and treat your sisters well.'' Next morning he was among the first to be killed, so I buried him along with another in the same grave. Thereafter, I did not like that I should leave him with another in the grave. So I dug up his corpse after six months and he was in the same condition in which he was on the day when I buried him, except that there was a scratch on his ear. Then I buried him in a separate grave.
[Al-Bukhari].

Commentary: This Hadith highlights the following five points:
1. The Companions' love for the Prophet (PBUH) exceeded everything else, even one's own life and children.
2. The Companions' ardent desire for martyrdom.
3. The sixth sense of Jabir's father that he would be honoured with martyrdom.
4. The miracle that his dead body remained intact and did not decompose even after the period of six months.
5. The justification to exhume a dead body, in case of need. This permission is subject to the condition that much time has not passed since the burial of the deceased.

1508. Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Two Companions of the Prophet (PBUH) left his home in a very dark night with something like lights in front of them; when they separated, each of them had one light in front of him till they arrived home.
[Al-Bukhari].
Other narrations reported in Al-Bukhari say that the two men were Usaid bin Hudhair and `Abbad bin Bishr (May Allah be pleased with them).


Commentary: What was akin to light? Some people say it was their walking sticks which gave a shining effect in darkness and showed them their way. Some say that it was the light of the Prophethood. Thus, it was a marvel of the Companions and a miracle of the Prophet (PBUH).

1509. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) sent an espionage mission of ten men under the leadership of `Asim bin Thabit Al-Ansari (May Allah be pleased with him). They proceeded till they reached Al-Had'ah, a place between `Usfan and Makkah and the news of their arrival reached a section of the tribe of Hudhail, called Banu Lihyan. About one hundred men, who were all archers, hurried to follow their tracks. When `A sim and his companions came to know of their pursuers, they took refuge in a safe place. The infidels encircled them and said to them: "Come down and surrender, and we promise and guarantee you that we will not kill anyone of you.'' `Asim bin Thabit (May Allah be pleased with him) said: "By Allah! I will not come down to be under the protection of disbelievers. O Allah! convey this news to our Prophet (PBUH).'' Then the infidels shot arrows at them till they killed `Asim. Three men came down relying on their promise and covenant. They were Khubaib, Zaid bin Ad-Dathinah and another man. When the disbelievers captured them, they tied them up with the strings of their bows. The third of the captives said: "This is the beginning of first betrayal. By Allah! I will not go with you. I have a good example in these (martyrs).'' So they dragged him and tried to compel him to accompany them, but he refused. At last they killed him. They took Khubaib and Zaid bin Ad-Dathina with them and sold them as slaves in Makkah. This incident took place after the battle of Badr.
Khubaib was bought by the sons of Al-Harith bin `Amir bin Naufal bin `Abd Manaf. It was Khubaib who had killed Al-Harith in the battle of Badr. Khubaib remained a prisoner with those people for a few days till the sons of Al-Harith resolved to kill him.
When Khubaib (May Allah be pleased with him) got wind of this plot, he borrowed a razor from one of Al-Harith's daughters in order to remove his pubic hair. Her little son crawled towards Khubaib because of her carelessness. Later on, she saw her son on his thigh and the razor was in his hand. She got scared so much that Khubaib noticed the agitation on her face and said: "Are you afraid that I will kill him? No, I will never do that.'' She later remarked (after Al-Khubaib got martyred): "By Allah! I never saw a prisoner better than Khubaib.'' She added: "By Allah! I saw him once eating of a bunch of grapes in his hand while he was chained and there was no such fruit at that time in Makkah. Probably it was a boon which Allah bestowed upon Khubaib.''
When they took him out of the Haram of Makkah to kill him outside its boundaries, Khubaib requested them to let him offer two Rak`ah of voluntary prayer. They allowed him and he offered two Rak`ah prayer. Then he said: "Had I not apprehended that you would think that I was afraid of death, I would have prolonged the prayer. O Allah! Count their number; slay them one by one and spare not one of them.'' He then recited these poetic verses:
`I do not care how they kill me as long as I get martyred in the Cause of Allah as a Muslim. I received my death for Allah's sake. If Allah so desires, He will bless, the amputated limbs of the torn body.'
Then the son of Al-Harith killed him. It was Khubaib who set the tradition for any Muslim sentenced to death in captivity to offer two Rak`ah of voluntary prayer. On that day the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) informed his Companions of the martyrdom of Khubaib. Later on, when some disbelievers from Quraish were informed that `Asim had been martyred, they sent some people to fetch a significant part of his body to ascertain his death. (This was because) `Asim had killed one of their chiefs. So Allah sent a swarm of wasps, resembling a shady cloud, to hover over the body of `Asim and to shield him from their messengers, and thus they could not cut off anything from his body.
[Al-Bukhari].

Commentary: "Raht'' means a group or party. Some people say it consisted of six persons - `Asim bin Thabit, Marthad bin Abu Marthad, Khubaib bin `Adi, Zaid bin Ad-Dathina, `Abdullah bin Tariq and Khalid bin Bukair (May Allah be pleased with him) Some say that it comprised ten persons. Allah knows better.
The incident reported in this Hadith has many miracles and marvels. For instance, according to his prayer, the news of his assassination was conveyed by Allah through Wahy to the Prophet (PBUH) on the very day when he was martyred and he (PBUH) informed his Companions about it.
Second, Allah provided Khubaib with grapes when they were out of season during his imprisonment.
Third, Allah sent wasps for the safety of `Asim's corpse.
Fourth, his enemies met with the evil end which he had imprecated for them.
This Hadith brings forth the following six points:
1. If one's enemy shows strictness and oppression, then he should not accept the offer of protection from them even if he is killed as a result of this. One can, however, try to save his life if he sees some signs of leniency in the enemy's attitude.
2. The matchless perseverance and steadfastness of the Companions of the Prophet (PBUH) and their patience on the tyrannies perpetrated on them by their enemies.
3. Even in the worst of circumstances, the Companion of the Prophet (PBUH) (i.e., Khubaib) maintained the best standard of morality and did not harm the enemy's child in any way.
4. If the enemy is bent upon killing, then it is permissible to request them for permission to offer two Rak`ah of voluntary Salat because this act of Khubaib (May Allah be pleased with him) was upheld by the Prophet (PBUH).
5. It is lawful to imprecate for oppressors and disbelievers.
There are many Ahadith on the validity of marvels and miracles which have been mentioned in the present book in different chapters. The following instances can be quoted in this respect:
1. The incident of the boy who used to visit a priest and a magician. (See the Chapter on Patience).
2. The story of Juraij (which occurs in the Chapter on Sincerity).
3. The story of the men of the cave, the entrance of which was closed with a huge stone. (The Chapter on Generosity).
4. The story of the man who had heard the voice from the clouds ordering them to shower rain on a particular garden (the Chapter on Generosity).
Many other incidents also come in this category which are supported by evidence and are well-known. Allah is Capable of doing everything.

1510. Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: I never heard `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) relating anything that he conceived it to be so-and-so, but that it proved to be as he had conceived it.''
[Al-Bukhari].

Commentary: This Hadith tells us about the distinction of `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) and confirms the marvels which Allah manifested through him. Almighty Allah had endowed him with abundant sagacity and intelligence. For this reason, the Prophet (PBUH) stated that if there would ever be a man in his Ummah who will be gifted with inspiration, this man would be `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him).

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snakelegs
06-15-2007, 05:47 AM
thanks - this subject just came up tonight on another thread so it is quite timely.
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asadxyz
06-15-2007, 09:24 AM
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1504. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "There were Muhaddithun (the recipients of Divine inspiration) among the nations before you. If there is any of such Muhaddith among my followers, he must be `Umar.''
[Al-Bukhari].
In Muslim, this Hadith is narrated by `Aishah (May Allah be pleased with her), and in both these narrations Ibn Wahb has said that the meaning of Muhaddithun is recipients of Divine inspiration.

Commentary: "Mulhamun'' [persons endowed with inspiration]; in other words, things are put in their hearts by Allah, it was done in the case of the mother of Prophet Musa. It was put in her mind by Allah that if she felt any fear, she should then trust the child to the sea. Maryam (Mary) also used to receive inspiration, which is also a form of marvel. This Hadith evidently shows the distinction of `Umar (May Allah be pleased with him).
What is the exact reference of this Hadith? Book ? and Hadith number of Bukhari.
This has created a lot of confusion in my mind.Please do respond .Thanks
:mmokay: :heated:
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Gangster No.1
06-15-2007, 09:52 AM
Subhanalh, wonderful hadiths.

May Allah give me and those who desire to be martyed in the name of Allah.
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-15-2007, 09:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by asadxyz
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What is the exact reference of this Hadith? Book ? and Hadith number of Bukhari.
This has created a lot of confusion in my mind.Please do respond .Thanks
:mmokay: :heated:
assalamu alaikum

bro :) inspiration also comes to bee's if you analyse

And thy Lord inspired the bee, saying: Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch;
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so why can it not come to the pious people? it does not have to come in the form of wahy, it can be just a feeling, such as the inspiration to the mother of Musa Alaihissalaam.


i hope that helped :)


btw jazakAllah khair sis khayal, as usual another great thread !! :thumbs_up
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
06-15-2007, 04:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
assalamu alaikum

bro :) inspiration also comes to bee's if you analyse



so why can it not come to the pious people? it does not have to come in the form of wahy, it can be just a feeling, such as the inspiration to the mother of Musa Alaihissalaam.


i hope that helped :)


btw jazakAllah khair sis khayal, as usual another great thread !! :thumbs_up
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It may come to pious people, but remember Umar r.a.. The Messenger said in the hadith that if there was anyone in this Ummah who would get inspiration it would be Umar r.a.. So we see that at times Umar r.a. would be correct and Qur'an would be revealed supporting his view and other times he would be mistaken and Qur'an would be revealed correcting him. But those that believe that a certain Shaykh recieves some sort of inspiration, they end up following him in everything without examining if he is pious or not. You have to remember that the Shayatin also inspire some people. Surah ash-Shua'raa
221: Shall I inform you (O people!) upon whom the Shayatin (devils) descend?
222: They descend on every lying (one who tells lies), sinful person.
223: Who gives ear (to the devils and they pour what they may have heard of the unseen from the angels), and most of them are liars.
Ibn Kathir says: They descend on every lying, sinful person (Athim)) meaning, one whose speech is lies and fabrication. (Athim) means, whose deeds are immoral. This is the person upon whom the Shayatin descend, fortune-tellers and other sinful liars. The Shayatin are also sinful liars.

So just because a person gets inspiration does not mean he is pious, rathar it could be the opposite. A person must be checked if he internally and externally is in compliance to Tawheed and the Sunnah. And even if such a person recieves some inspiration, it does not mean that he is to be followed blindly.

And Allaah knows best.
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asadxyz
06-15-2007, 04:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
assalamu alaikum

bro :) inspiration also comes to bee's if you analyse



so why can it not come to the pious people? it does not have to come in the form of wahy, it can be just a feeling, such as the inspiration to the mother of Musa Alaihissalaam.


i hope that helped :)


btw jazakAllah khair sis khayal, as usual another great thread !! :thumbs_up
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Thank you very much for reply;
Here naturally the question arises what the Wahi is ?
Secondly ,how will you explain these Qurani Ayas then ?'
Basic Principle of Revelation

عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَى غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا﴿72:26﴾

(72:26) He alone is the Knower of the unseen: He does not reveal His secrets to anyone

إِلَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَى مِن رَّسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا﴿72:27﴾

(72:27) except to the Messenger whom He may choose (for the purpose) Then He appoints before him and behind him guards

وَمَا كَانَ اللّهُ لِيُطْلِعَكُمْ عَلَى الْغَيْبِ وَلَكِنَّ اللّهَ يَجْتَبِي مِن رُّسُلِهِ مَن يَشَاء

(3:179)Allah is not going to disclose to you what is hidden in the realm beyond the reach of perception, but He chooses from among His Messengers whom He wills (to intimate such knowledge).

Revelation other than prophets
The actual nature of Wahi to Umma Musa seems to be like revelation of disciples of the Hazrat Eesa (PBUH)

(28:7)وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَى أُمِّ مُوسَى أَنْ أَرْضِعِيهِ
(28:7) We *inspired the mother of Moses, saying, "Suckle him

And to the disciples of the Jesus (PBUH) Wahi was also revealed :

وَإِذْ أَوْحَيْتُ إِلَى الْحَوَارِيِّينَ أَنْ آمِنُواْ بِي وَبِرَسُولِي قَالُوَاْ آمَنَّا وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّنَا مُسْلِمُونَ﴿5:111﴾

(5:111) And recall when I revealed to the disciples to believe in Me and in My Mes-senger, they said: "We do believe, and we bear witness that we indeed are the ones who submit to Allah"

Naturally it is through the Prophet Eesa (PBUH) not directly.Because in 72:26 Allah has established a "law " that non-prophet cannot get revelation.

Another example :
Holy books are revealed to the Prophets ,so those are addressed like :

إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ فَاعْبُدِ اللَّهَ مُخْلِصًا لَهُ الدِّينَ﴿39:2﴾

(39:2) (O Muhammad,) We have sent down this Book to you with the truth *2 ; so worship Allah alone, making your religion His exclusively

Sometimes same words are used for the followers (because those are getting the book throught prophets).It does not mean that these people (other than prophets) are getting revelation directly.

لَقَدْ أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكُمْ كِتَابًا فِيهِ ذِكْرُكُمْ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ﴿21:10﴾

(21:10) O people, We have sent down to you a Book, which deals with matters concerning yourselves. What, do you not understand this?

Best of luck
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-15-2007, 04:55 PM
lets chill out a bit bro lol, we aint scholars, lets not act like it :)

forgive me for any offence, i remind myself before you :D
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Ibn Abi Ahmed
06-15-2007, 07:48 PM
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Then Insha'Allaah you can refer to the following book and lectures:

The Criterion between the Allies of ar-Rahman and the Allies of the Devil - Shaykh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
Purification of the Soul between Sunnah and Bid'ah - Shaykh Yasir Qadhi
Explanation of Kitab at-Tawheed - Shaykh Yasir Qadhi

Also, Jazakallah Khayr for the reminder Akhi :)
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asadxyz
06-15-2007, 08:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
lets chill out a bit bro lol, we aint scholars, lets not act like it :)

forgive me for any offence, i remind myself before you :D
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Thanks for reply and advice;I will try to follow it.
But I would like to remind you one Quranic aya:

وَيْلٌ لِّكُلِّ هُمَزَةٍ لُّمَزَةٍ﴿104:1﴾

(104:1) Doomed (to ruin) is every such person who slanders others (in their face) and backbites them habitually *1

Pondering is Fardh and Quran condemns who do not ponder over it.

وَلَقَدْ ذَرَأْنَا لِجَهَنَّمَ كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الْجِنِّ وَالإِنسِ لَهُمْ قُلُوبٌ لاَّ يَفْقَهُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ أَعْيُنٌ لاَّ يُبْصِرُونَ بِهَا وَلَهُمْ آذَانٌ لاَّ يَسْمَعُونَ بِهَا أُوْلَـئِكَ كَالأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ أُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْغَافِلُونَ﴿7:179﴾

(7:179) And certainly We have created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind; *140 they have hearts with which they fail to understand; and they have eyes with which they fail to see; and they have cars with which they fail to hear. They are like cattle - indeed, even more astray. Such are utterly heedless.

وَلاَ تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ إِنَّ السَّمْعَ وَالْبَصَرَ وَالْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُولـئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْؤُولاً﴿17:36﴾ (17:36) (13).Do not follow that of which you have no knowledge for you shall be questioned for (the use) of your eyes, ears and minds

One very Important Quality of Mominine

وَالَّذِينَ إِذَا ذُكِّرُوا بِآيَاتِ رَبِّهِمْ لَمْ يَخِرُّوا عَلَيْهَا صُمًّا وَعُمْيَانًا﴿25:73﴾

(25:73) who do not behave like the blind and the deaf, when the Revelations of their Lord are recited to them for admonition ;

THOSE WHO BEHAVE LIKE BLIND ,FOR THEM THE QURAN CLAIMS :

وَمَن كَانَ فِي هَـذِهِ أَعْمَى فَهُوَ فِي الآخِرَةِ أَعْمَى وَأَضَلُّ سَبِيلاً﴿17:72﴾

(17:72) on the other hand, the one, who leads his life in this world as if he were blind shall be blind in the Hereafter. nay, he shall fare even worse than a blind person in finding the way.

قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِي الأَعْمَى وَالْبَصِيرُ أَفَلاَ تَتَفَكَّرُونَ﴿6:50﴾

Then ask them: 'Are the blind and the seeing alike?' *32 Do you not then reflect?

Best of luck
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-15-2007, 09:18 PM
bro asadxyz i can quote many ayyat of quran to support me but there will be little substance if its not backed by a mufassir with the correct interpretation and meaning... also translations can easily be distorted.


jazakAllah khair bro MM :)
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asadxyz
06-15-2007, 11:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
bro asadxyz i can quote many ayyat of quran to support me but there will be little substance if its not backed by a mufassir with the correct interpretation and meaning... also translations can easily be distorted.


jazakAllah khair bro MM :)
:sl:
That is good.I will appreciate if you can give me some further guidance.Please do Qoute the Ayaat because I am really in search of truth.
If you think there is some distortion of translation .Again I will appreciate if you point it out.I would like to be corrected provided it is backed by proper reference.
If this is just for the sake of objection ,then let me say that it is the major reason for the fall of Muslims because they have stopped using the brain.
As far Mufassirin are concerned I do respect them because of their knowledge ,their righteousness, and sincerity.But at the same time I believe those are human beings like any other human being who can commit mistakes (though we are more prone to this fault).If their interepretation is backed by Quran /Sunna ,I will not waste even a millionth of second to accept but if you think that I can believe blindly ,so I feel sorry for that.
I will be waiting for it.
Best of luck
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