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Hashim_507
06-20-2007, 11:44 PM
My 12-year-old son was asked to do a report on someone who has or had impacted history. He chose to do his report on Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). He spent almost three weeks readying encyclopedias, hadiths, translations of the Qur'an, and books from the local mosque.

He turned in his report on May 10, 2007, and I received a phone call from the school saying he had the option of being suspended from school for the remaining 15 days left or he could accept the corporal punishment.

When my son was in the first grade, he was told to draw a picture and put the word "God" in it. He drew a picture of a Palestinian flag and wrote "God Bless Palestine." He was given an F and three days' suspension. Then again in the fifth grade, in his history class he was punished because when he was stating the countries that they were learning he wrote "Palestine" instead of Israel, and he received another F for that. When he went into the fifth grade, Giddeons came to the school and handed him a Bible and he said, "No, thank you. I am a Muslim," and the gentleman said, "You must take this, it's a gift from us to you." I complained to the school superintendent and was given a written letter of apology then for making him take the Bible.

This is the kind of harassment we go through living in a Christian community of 4,500 people and we — my family — are the only Muslims here. All of my children have suffered in this small town, in some way or another.

My 2-year-old twins have been called sandni**** and my other children have been called terrorists. I would like my son's story to get around, because they never should have told him he could do the report on Prophet Muhammad and then punish him for it.

Any suggestions on how we can help this little 12-year-old for sticking up for his beliefs would be greatly appreciated.

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Salam, Sheila.



Thank you for telling us about the problems your children are facing in school and for your question about how you might overcome these problems.

We all want the best for our own children, don't we? And, as parents, we stick up for them through thick and thin when they face difficulties at school or anywhere.

It is good that you are asking advice from someone not directly involved in the situation, so that we can answer it at a step removed from the situation itself and apply any lessons we might take from this situation to all Muslims, whether at school or not.

Let us hope, though, that the situation has not got out of control and that a few cautious steps might be able to remedy things.

Legal Steps

First of all, if the situation is exactly as you describe it, there are legal steps that you could take to ensure that your children are enjoying their full rights in school. An attorney could advise you about where you stand.

Equality of opportunity and freedom from prejudice or discrimination based on religion are enshrined in the basic legal codes of many countries.

If there really is a case for such action, you should take proper legal advice about it. The mention of such legal action often has a very immediate effect.

Advice From a Teacher

Before going down that road, though, I just want to share my own experience. I have been a teacher for many years and have a lot of experience of both students and teachers.

Experience has taught me that parents always see the situation from their child's point of view.

Experience has also taught me that teachers, on the whole, are a fairly balanced and caring group, and very seldom act in a discriminatory way towards pupils.

My first word of caution, then, is to look at the situation with a lot of common sense and try to see it from all points of view.

An Opportunity to Teach

It could be that this situation you find yourself in is actually a way of teaching others about Islam. You tell us that your family is the only Muslim family in the area. May Allah strengthen you to give witness to His name and to be faithful to His commands.

At your son's school, then, the teachers and the other students will have had no other contact with Islam, except the very negative images of Islam they see on TV or in newspapers.

If it is a very small town where you live, having a Muslim pupil in the school must seem rather strange to them, perhaps even alien to everything they are used to. Whilst protecting the rights of your son to be treated fairly at all times, you could use this very opportunity to bring the message of Islam to this small community.

If the only image they have about Islam is a negative one, their actions can be understood, although not excused, in the light of this.

Helping Your Child Respond

It is also very important to remember that a child does not have the experience to deal with the subtleties of adults, so when placed in an awkward situation, your son is responding as a child would respond.

You should advise him to stay calm whenever there is a problem and that you will sort it out. At twelve years old, he cannot be expected to sort these problems out himself.

Once he knows that you will always be there to support him at school, he can calm down a little. Tell him to be as good a Muslim as he can, polite and courteous to others, and that you will deal with the rest.

A Time to Build Bridges

There is a lot of bridge-building to be done here. The final outcome will be that your son is not marked out for special treatment because he is Muslim, and the school will come to see that Islam is not a threat.

Even if you have done so already, you should make an appointment to speak with the school principal to express your concerns over what seems to be happening. Very often, misunderstandings can be sorted out by talking about them.

Sometimes, not everyone knows there is a problem until it is pointed out to them. Explain to the principal that you respect the values of the other pupils and teachers and that you do not want to change their views at all, but that you do not want your son to be treated unfairly.

Explain that Islam is not what is portrayed on TV, but that it is very practical and sensible.

Make it clear that you are not looking for a fight, but that you simply want to get on well with the school's administration in a way that will help your son to integrate fully into the life of the school without compromising anything he believes as a Muslim.

It is very important to be quite calm at these meetings. Visit the principal a second or a third time if necessary.

Islam is not looking for anyone's approval, so you shouldn't feel that you are looking for the school to approve what you or your son believes. Muslims, though, do want to engage in a very positive way with all people, whether they are Muslim or not.

Because of some incidents that have been misunderstood, it could be that your son has been marked out as a cause of trouble. It is a difficult job for you, but you must show that Muslims are not a cause of trouble. Even in the way you approach and speak to the school authorities, you must show that Islam is dignified and strong.

Earning Respect First

You must also remember, though, that no one owes Islam any favors either. You are going to have to earn the respect of the teachers for what you believe.

They are not going to be very sympathetic to something they believe to be violent and uncompromising, because of what they have seen on TV.

The school authorities must be brought round slowly to see that Islam is worthy of great respect. At the time of their feasts, you might send a small card to the school wishing them well, whilst at the same time making it clear that this is not your feast.

You might find some very good information about Islam to give to the schoolteachers. It could be that they just know nothing about Islam and Muslims. Try to find ways, too, of thanking teaching staff for the good things they are doing.

Muslims are strong. Their strength comes from Allah. Whilst you should not have to put up with any kind of discrimination in your son's place of education, it could be that this whole situation is a way for you to speak to others about Islam.

If, as you say, you are the only Muslims in the area, you have a great responsibility to be ambassadors for Islam. By standing firm, you can win the respect of others.

By giving good example of what it means to be Muslim, you might even be the ones who draw others to the sweet and gentle message of Islam.

Hopefully, this test of your faithfulness to Allah may be the thing that brings Islam to your town.

I hope this answers your question. Please stay in touch.

Salam.

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cihad
06-21-2007, 11:57 AM
omg , I can't believe people can get away with things like this!!
Inshallah Allah will give them strength
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- Qatada -
06-21-2007, 11:57 AM
:salamext:


This is really shocking subhan Allaah.. ameen to the dua ^
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glo
06-21-2007, 12:09 PM
Nobody should receive such treatment. :cry:
No matter what our race, ethnicity, faith, sexuality etc, we all share the same humanity and deserve the same human rights!!

Peace
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IbnAbdulHakim
06-21-2007, 01:21 PM
may Allah reward your son with jannatul firdaus, i really feel love for him... subhanAllah
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Pk_#2
06-21-2007, 01:30 PM
AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabaraaktuh Wa Maghfiratuh,

so mean! :'( :( and sad! and horrible! imsad
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skhalid
06-21-2007, 01:43 PM
That Is Harsh....:zip:
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smile
06-21-2007, 01:47 PM
jeez man these people are so scared that other children could learn stuff from this boy
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MuhammadRizan
06-21-2007, 02:15 PM
:sl:

:cry: Surely Allah will bless the family more for their sabr.

i think they should move..that kind of harassment is not not good for children..they cannot understand the situation and easily being exploited to what the community want.
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ranma1/2
06-22-2007, 01:10 AM
being the skeptic i would always like to know more facts about the case .
Assuming this is true then it definetly sounds like there are problems.

I am curious as to why the child was made to draw something with the word god in it? What type of school where they going to and where? Private catholic school? The USA etc..

I expect for kids to harras other kids for differences. I was harrased as a kid for accepting evolution based on evidence and not believing in the christian god.

I dont expect adults to do this "except for maybe George Bush jr and senior, and Mike Huckabee"
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Sinbad
06-22-2007, 01:37 AM
this might be off topic, but people that are in these situation might want to know that there is an all islamic small town in America.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281074,00.html
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snakelegs
06-22-2007, 01:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sinbad
this might be off topic, but people that are in these situation might want to know that there is an all islamic small town in America.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,281074,00.html
interesting! actually, it's not a bad idea for any group of people who want to live their lives differently than the mainstream culture. there are religious communities in pennsylvannia and other places. (the amish come to mind).
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Sinbad
06-22-2007, 01:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
interesting! actually, it's not a bad idea for any group of people who want to live their lives differently than the mainstream culture. there are religious communities in pennsylvannia and other places. (the amish come to mind).
they are called comunes, there are many of them.

http://www.echowood.org/

this is a hippie comune
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snakelegs
06-22-2007, 02:02 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sinbad
they are called comunes, there are many of them.

http://www.echowood.org/

this is a hippie comune
right - there is one in tennessee that has been around for a long time, called "the farm" - also founded by hippies. i was thinking of communities based on religion specfically.
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BanGuLLy
06-22-2007, 02:04 AM
This is messed up man...
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Philosopher
06-22-2007, 02:11 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ranma1/2
being the skeptic i would always like to know more facts about the case .
Assuming this is true then it definetly sounds like there are problems.

I am curious as to why the child was made to draw something with the word god in it? What type of school where they going to and where? Private catholic school? The USA etc..

I expect for kids to harras other kids for differences. I was harrased as a kid for accepting evolution based on evidence and not believing in the christian god.

I dont expect adults to do this "except for maybe George Bush jr and senior, and Mike Huckabee"
This stuff doesnt happen in the USA. If it did, their family can sue the school loads.
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snakelegs
06-22-2007, 02:12 AM
i'm not sure what country this was in - but if it was in the u.s. the parents could and should take the school to court over something like this.
i sure wouldn't want to live in a country where people thought this was perfectly ok!
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Sinbad
06-22-2007, 02:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
right - there is one in tennessee that has been around for a long time, called "the farm" - also founded by hippies. i was thinking of communities based on religion specfically.
Well in Utah there are mormon towns that practise polygami and say that the outside world is hell, (the neighbouring towns)
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Philosopher
06-22-2007, 02:15 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
i'm not sure what country this was in - but if it was in the u.s. the parents could and should take the school to court over something like this.
i sure wouldn't want to live in a country where people thought this was perfectly ok!
Yes, I would take it straight to court. No way they will lose.
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north_malaysian
06-22-2007, 02:26 AM
Why me and my Muslim friends never harass non-Muslims at our school?

- We were being taught about other people's religions and cultures.
- No non-Muslims were critical to our religion, so we are doing the same.
- I never heard any anti-non Muslim statements from my Muslim teachers and no Non-Muslim teachers saying bad things about Islam.
- We live in a mixed neighbourhood, about 33% were Muslims, and the remaining are Buddhists, Hindus, Confucians, Taoists, Christians and Sikhs. There are 3 mosques, 3 Hindu temples, 3 churches and 1 Chinese Temple in our neighbourhood. So we were very aware of the differences we have and try to live together.
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smile
06-22-2007, 06:58 PM
it is amazing at how little non-muslims know about islam and how much we know about other religions
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Karina
06-22-2007, 07:17 PM
This is an awful story - truly awful, but I hope you don't mind that I have some queries:

- where in the world did this occur?
- why did they threaten "corporal punishment"? All of Western Europe, most of Eastern Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Japan and South Africa have banned school corporal punishment, as have many other countries. (although I am aware that some US states still allow this).

Peace.
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wilberhum
06-22-2007, 07:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Karina
This is an awful story - truly awful, but I hope you don't mind that I have some queries:

- where in the world did this occur?
- why did they threaten "corporal punishment"? All of Western Europe, most of Eastern Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Japan and South Africa have banned school corporal punishment, as have many other countries. (although I am aware that some US states still allow this).

Peace.
Do you really think the story is anything but a fabrication? :rolleyes:

Any deails that would allow someone to verify the story are missing. That is the first clue. There are a number of others. :-\

Looks to me like the author had a "Victom Complex". :(
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Karina
06-22-2007, 08:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
Do you really think the story is anything but a fabrication? :rolleyes:

Any deails that would allow someone to verify the story are missing. That is the first clue. There are a number of others. :-\

Looks to me like the author had a "Victom Complex". :(
Why would someone fabricate this or am i being totally naive? :embarrass
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wilberhum
06-22-2007, 08:30 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Karina
Why would someone fabricate this or am i being totally naive? :embarrass
I think totaly naive. As I said "Victom Complex".

Why do some write internet worms?
Why do some spread rumors about coke and Starbucks?

I guess some people have a different idea of fun than I do.
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Karina
07-01-2007, 01:15 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
I think totaly naive. As I said "Victom Complex".

Why do some write internet worms?
Why do some spread rumors about coke and Starbucks?

I guess some people have a different idea of fun than I do.
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like for me to play the "victim"......... I will try my own story of sorrow one day - y'know, to highlight the cause?? Whatever the cause is.....................................??? :X :X :X :raging:
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Yanal
07-01-2007, 01:41 AM
Asalam alkum happens to me this vietnamese person says ihave a shaved of thing becuz the circusim
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mohammed farah
07-01-2007, 02:32 AM
I'm not trying to be rude but should'nt this be in the Cyber Counselling section?
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ranma1/2
07-01-2007, 02:49 AM
yeah after reading it again im pretty sure its fake, or at the very least not a public american school. When was corpral punishment removed from public schools in america?
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wilberhum
07-01-2007, 04:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by mohammed farah
I'm not trying to be rude but should'nt this be in the Cyber Counselling section?
Maybe it should be under Cyber Counseling. The person that made this up needs help. :skeleton:
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AHMED_GUREY
07-01-2007, 04:43 PM
A year ago my 7 year old brother told me his lebanese classmate was called a terrorist by another classmate, Islamophobia is projected most of the time at Arabs and Middle east westerners in general while Malaysian muslims and Chechen muslims who live in the west feel it less because they don't fit the stereotype(muslim=arabs)

bring back..

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