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Zman
06-30-2007, 02:27 PM
:sl:/Peace To All

The Israel You Don't See On The News

For TvNewsLIES.org to take the time to expose media deception when it comes to the American corporate media’s coverage of Israel and all things related would be silly at this point in history. It would be like using a flashlight to point out the sun. The media bias is so obvious that it would be laughable if it were not so unjust.

What Americans do not realize however, is the extent of media deception and information control that is official Israeli policy.

Yes, by policy and with the total agreement and cooperation of all the Israeli TV news media, Israeli military censors have the final say on every single Israeli military operation that is covered by their media.

Every single news item that is viewed by Israeli citizens on their own media in their own so called democracy is government censored.
We hear accusations of bias in media outlets like Al Jazeera in the Arab world and on outlets like FOX News here in America, but we never hear about the cooperative deception campaign between the Israeli media and their government.
The world can not blame the Israeli citizens for their harsh opinions of Palestinians or any other Arabs because they are fed a controlled one sided and deceptive stream of propaganda masquerading as news.
The most important freedom one can have in a democracy is a truly free press for without a free press the citizens can never really be sure about the legitimacy of their democracy.

America does not have a national journalism industry.

I challenge anyone who claims different to a public discussion about this.

And Israel clearly does not have a free press and they are quite open about this.

So I ask all of the blind supporters of Israel this question: If Israeli news media clearly and openly take part in complete government censorship, how can you possibly trust them and how can you logically dismiss news and information that contradicts their claims?

Think about it.
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Amadeus85
06-30-2007, 07:28 PM
I dont know much about American media, as i am not American, but here in Europe our lovely leftist media are much more pro palestinian and anti Israeli. You can find something about a french philosph Alain Finkielkraut. He proved that nowadays european ( and not only ) Left is antisemitic.
And you know why Left hates Israel? Because Left is agaisnt national states. Everything connected with word "nation" is a fascism for leftists. And Israel is one of the few countries in the democratic world that defends so much its nation understood as a connection of the same culture and tradition. ANd this is a fascism for leftists.
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islamirama
06-30-2007, 08:00 PM
Why Middle Eeast bleeds
http://video.google.com/googleplayer...32344102&hl=en


Occupation 101
http://www.youtube.com/v/pV_T551jw88


Israeli Strip Searching Women and Children
http://video.google.com/googleplayer...48687549&hl=en



Who Rules America?

The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken

http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/

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NobleMuslimUK
06-30-2007, 08:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85
I dont know much about American media, as i am not American, but here in Europe our lovely leftist media are much more pro palestinian and anti Israeli. You can find something about a french philosph Alain Finkielkraut. He proved that nowadays european ( and not only ) Left is antisemitic.
And you know why Left hates Israel? Because Left is agaisnt national states. Everything connected with word "nation" is a fascism for leftists. And Israel is one of the few countries in the democratic world that defends so much its nation understood as a connection of the same culture and tradition. ANd this is a fascism for leftists.
I see so democracy is at the expense of others misery now makes sense. I am sure you know USA is in the same business, now Blair has us hanging onto the same bandwagon.
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Zman
06-30-2007, 11:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85
...Israel is one of the few countries in the democratic world...

You can't be an Democracy & an Apartheid state at the same time.

Israel is only a Democracy for Jews...
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Amadeus85
07-01-2007, 05:51 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zman

You can't be an Democracy & an Apartheid state at the same time.

Israel is only a Democracy for Jews...
In Israel Arabs can study, be politics, work,they have freedom of faith, they have political parties in Knesset, israeli parliament. Lately an Arab became even a minister in goverment.If Arabs felt so badly in Israel, so why there are still almost one million Arabs?
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Zman
07-01-2007, 03:23 PM
:sl:/[i]Peace To All

Revolting footage of the inhumane treatment of Palestinian captives, by their brutal Israeli Occupiers.

Note the deliberate use of rocks in an attempt to break the bones of their defenseless Palestinian prisoners.

Mod edit: Video Removed - it's too violent for the public forums I'm afraid.
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Zman
07-01-2007, 05:04 PM
:sl:/Peace To All

A TextBook Case Of Israeli Propaganda

By Ali Abunimah
The Jordan Times,
July 4, 2002
PalestineMonitor

A NEW Israeli army “study” charges that Palestinian school textbooks contain “systematic education to delegitimise the existence of the state of Israel, fanning the flames of hatred and violent revenge to destroy the country” (“Palestinian schoolbooks fan the flames of hatred,” Haaretz, June 28, 2002).

Such claims, which have been made by Israel and its extremist supporters in the United States for years, are simply an attempt by Israel to find some alternative explanation to the understandable rage felt by Palestinians who have suffered through decades of continuing dispossession, occupation, disenfranchisement, violence, torture and humiliation at the hands of Israel.

An independent study of Palestinian textbooks by Professor Nathan Brown of George Washington University in Washington, DC, notes that “virtually every discussion in English on Palestinian education repeats the charge that Palestinian textbooks incite students against Jews and Israel”.

Brown states that: “It may therefore come as a surprise to readers that the books authored under the PNA are largely innocent of these charges. What is more remarkable than any statements they make on the subject is their silence — the PNA-authored books often stubbornly avoid treating anything controversial regarding Palestinian national identity, forcing them into awkward omissions and gaps.”

Brown, while not uncritical of the Palestinian textbooks, concluded that “the Palestinian curriculum is not a war curriculum; while highly nationalistic, it does not incite hatred, violence and anti-Semitism. It cannot be described as a peace curriculum either, but the charges against it are often wildly exaggerated or inaccurate.”

(“Democracy, History and the Contest over the Palestinian Curriculum,” an independent report prepared for the Adam Institute, 2002
[ http://www.nad-plo.org/textbooks/nathan_textbook.pdf ])
Nationalism, whatever its drawbacks, underpins almost every country's school curriculum, not least in the United States and Israel.
How can we explain the glaring discrepancy between Brown's findings and those of the Israeli army propaganda unit?

According to Haaretz, the Israeli study claims that the Palestinian textbooks “express a lack of recognition of Israel, not even according to the 1967 borders, alongside adamant claims to Palestinian rule of all the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.”

Another complaint is that the books mention that Israel has “exploited” and “degraded” Palestinians “by changing the names of Arab villages and cities, and by defacing and stealing Arab manuscripts”.

The Israeli reviewers are outraged that in one book there is a story of a Palestinian girl visiting her family's original home in the city of Jaffa which is now in Israel.

Their biggest complaint is perhaps that there are maps which show “Palestine” as it once was, covering land that is now in Israel.

Hence, even an historically accurate map showing where major Palestinian population centres actually were prior to their destruction in 1948, constitutes for Israel “an adamant claim to rule” the whole country.

Referring to Israel's systematic effort to erase Palestinian history in Israel prior to 1948 (something very well documented by Israeli geographer Meron Benvenisti in his book `Sacred Landscape', 2000) is taken as a “desire for revenge”.

Anything short of total amnesia about Palestinian history and complete devotion to Zionism's official mythology constitutes “hatred”.

Only people who are in neurotic denial could indulge in such absurdities.


Yet, let us accept, only for the sake of argument, that the Israeli claims are true and that they constitute some form of “incitement”.

Why should Israel complain that Palestinians do not respect the 1967 borders on their maps, when it has been Israeli policy since 1967 to erase those borders on the ground, using extreme violence to confiscate Palestinian land and implant Jewish-only colonies everywhere Palestinians live?

You need only go to the “Israel Map”, on Israeli Ministry of Tourism's official website, to see the Golan Heights and the West Bank depicted as part of Israel (the latter being labelled “Judean Desert” and “Shomron” [Samaria], while the Palestinian city of Nablus is given only the Hebrew name “Shechem”).

Why should Palestinians express unconditional recognition of the legitimacy of the state of Israel and its historic claims when Israel has not recognised a Palestinian state, and its officials and many of its academics deny the undeniable — that nearly three quarters of a million Palestinians were expelled or fled from their homes so that Israel could rise on the ashes of Palestinian society?

Of course, the fact that the Palestinian leadership has explicitly recognised Israel — repeatedly and formally — and that Palestinian policy is to seek a state within the 1967 borders does nothing to blunt the constant Israeli charges.

This is because the purpose of the accusations is not to produce more friendly school curricula but to justify Israel's own refusal to recognise the 1967 borders, to provide cover for the continued colonisation of the occupied territories and to blame the Palestinians for all the violence resulting from this colonisation.
Even without Brown's commendable study it should be obvious that the constant Israeli refrain that textbooks are responsible for the violence is ridiculous on its face.

Are we to believe that if Palestinian textbooks were written by the Israeli Ministry of Education, Palestinian children would be happy to live under the brutal foreign military dictatorship that is the Israeli occupation, to see their parents and friends killed and humiliated, their houses demolished and their land seized for Jewish-only settlement?

If Palestinian youths were to read from Israeli textbooks, would they greet invading Israeli troops with showers of rose petals instead of stones?

If Palestinian students could actually get past the roadblocks, curfews and gunfire to reach their schools in order to read Israeli-approved books, would they feel less hostility towards Israel?

And, perhaps Israel would be in a better position to lecture Palestinians about what they should do in their classrooms if Israel had not constantly shelled school buildings and used Palestinian schools as detention camps for thousands of men and boys rounded up during “Operation Defensive Shield”, when they were forced to strip, and lie for hours and days on cold, concrete floors, sometimes with numbers written on their arms.
Indeed, for decades, Palestinian citizens of Israel ("Arab Israelis”) have studied from textbooks written by the Israeli Ministry of Education, they stood to attention in front of the Israeli flag and sang the Israeli national anthem.

And yet, despite their “good behaviour”, their simmering and growing discontent is caused not by an insufficiently Zionist school curriculum but by the constant and increasing discrimination against them in every possible sphere of life by Israeli government and society.

This discrimination reached the breaking point in October 2000 when thirteen Palestinian-Israeli youths protesting in solidarity with Palestinians in the occupied territories were shot dead by Israeli police.

Such casual brutality is entirely unheard of against Jewish citizens.
Israel is further marginalising its own Palestinian citizens by cutting payment of child benefits to Arab, but not Jewish, citizens.

Arab Knesset members are being persecuted: Azmi Bishara is on trial for making a speech, and Ahmed Tibi's parliamentary freedom of movement was recently revoked by a vote of his own Knesset colleagues.
This discrimination cannot but produce anger and resentment, and making the textbooks more Zionist is not going to assuage it.

So if this is the situation inside Israel, what can one expect in the occupied territories, where the repression is infinitely greater, and where hundreds of unarmed Palestinian children have been shot dead by the Israeli army since October 2000?

The Israeli occupation clearly does not need any help from textbooks to incite against itself.

With all this, one can easily find ugly expressions by Palestinians both about Israelis and Jews, but these are exactly mirrored by frequent statements from Israeli cabinet ministers, rabbis and others, calling for the ethnic cleansing or annihilation of all the Palestinians, and other all too frequent expressions of racial hatred.
These expressions on both sides are symptoms and not causes of the conflict.

When the gross and real injustices that fuel the conflict are removed, then they will begin to disappear and messages of hatred will not resonate as they do today.

Only those who want the conflict to continue will maintain the lie about Palestinian textbooks and find in them non-existent excuses to continue the oppression and dehumanisation of the Palestinian people while what little is left of their country is stolen from under their feet.


The writer is a co-founder of ElectronicIntifada.net, and a contributor to The New Intifada (Verso Books, 2001).

He contributed this article to The Jordan Times.

Source:
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/Spec...aeli_propa.htm
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islamirama
07-01-2007, 08:00 PM
video one
video two
video three
video four
video five
video six
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saira-k
07-01-2007, 08:14 PM
it is sick what what kind of world we live in..why do ppl do such things
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guyabano
07-02-2007, 08:17 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama

Standard Propaganda Videos

Contend of Videos may be horrific, but clearly, you can identify what the movies want to show: The good ones against the bad ones.
The question just is: Who is the good one and who the bad one ?
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islamirama
07-02-2007, 04:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano
Standard Propaganda Videos

Contend of Videos may be horrific, but clearly, you can identify what the movies want to show: The good ones against the bad ones.
The question just is: Who is the good one and who the bad one ?
standard denial of the kuffars. You show me israeli kids crying and their familes dead and homes destroyed, i think its pretty clear who is the bad guy and who is the victim.
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Amadeus85
07-02-2007, 05:06 PM
They are the good guys

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wilberhum
07-02-2007, 08:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama
standard denial of the kuffars. You show me israeli kids crying and their familes dead and homes destroyed, i think its pretty clear who is the bad guy and who is the victim.
There are thousands of examples, you just ignore them because they don't support your hate.
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Intisar
07-03-2007, 06:09 PM
Salaams bro

Jazakallah Khayran for that.

W/Salaam
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Zman
07-03-2007, 07:15 PM
:sl:/Peace To All

Israeli Propaganda & The Truth[/u][/b]

Courtesy Of: Jerusalemites

The following is an Israeli propaganda leaflet. It was distributed in Europe in waiting rooms
in hospitals, doctor clinics, train stations and places where people can read.

Here you have the truth!!

Facts about Israel and Palestinians

1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

TRUTH:
Palestine was a nation 3,000 B.C.E, i.e. two thousand years before the habirus (Israeli wanderers infiltrated into parts of Palestine, the land of Canaan, the land of milk and honey with Jerusalem ( Uru-salem) as the capital of the Jebsites who founded it 5000 years ago and gave it its name.

It is the eternal capital of the Palestinian people and has been so,
throughout the ages until the Zionist invasions of 1947-48 and 1967.

If any proof is needed, all you have to do is to read the Bible and it will tell you exactly what we stated above.

We revere David the Prophet as Muslims and Christians even more than do the Jews who regard him as a King-warrior.

But even then, the Bible itself will tell you that David invaded militarily Jebusite Jerusalem, and with utmost difficulty was able to occupy a hill in Jerusalem near the present David tower. The seat of the city remained Jebusite-Canaanite and Palestine.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the Modern State of Israel

TRUTH:
Arab refugees are the Palestinian people, the indigenous inhabitants of Palestine since time immemorial, who were forcibly expelled from their homeland in Palestine, at the point of the bayonet in 1947-1948.

The Israeli terrorist organization-the Hagana, the Irgun Zvai Leuni and Stern committed acts of unspeakable massacres, Deer Yassain village being only one in scores who were put to the sword.

The Jewish State as exists today sits on the ruins of 450 Palestinian villages destroyed, scores of towns and cities usurped including West Jerusalem, Jaffa, Lod, Ramleh, Safad, Acre, Ashkalon, Beer Sheba and many others.

There are today in refugee camps in Palestine and throughout the Middle
East four million Palestinians whose inalienable right of return to Palestine is recognized by the United Nations and the whole world.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

TRUTH:
For the past 2000 years and not before the beginning of the 20th century, no Jews lived in Palestine after their expulsion by the Romans.

It is a flagrant lie to claim as the Israelis do, that they had a continuous presence in Palestine over the past 2000 years. Because none existed

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

TRUTH:
Arab domination in Palestine has been for 5000 years and not 22 years as the Israelis unabashedly claim under various names and denominations.

Beginning with the Canaanites, they continued uninterruptedly to be the inhabitants of Palestine as part of the great Syriac civilization in which the Jewish presence was a mere fossil, as professor Toybee attests.

The Arab conquest of 635 a.d was but one chapter followed by five Arab and Islamic Empires, the Umayyad, the Abbassid, the Fatimid, the Ayubid, the Mameluk, the Ottoman and lastly the British 1917-1948.

Throughout all those continues Palestine was Palestinian Arab- both Muslim and Christian with a mere handful of Jews not exceeding a few hundred

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital.

TRUTH:
For over 5000 years Jerusalem has been the capital of Palestine within larger Arab-Islamic conglomerates, but no Jewish presence until 1947-1948.

It was the capital of British mandated Palestine with its overwhelming Palestinian majority until 1948, when the Jews usurped the land.

6- Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders never came to visit Jerusalem as a place of worship.

TRUTH:
Jerusalem, in the Arab, Islamic and Christian heritage has been for too important spiritually to be a mere capital. Even then, it was the great caliphs of Islam, foremost of whom was the great Caliph Omar 14 centuries ago.

7- Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

TRUTH:
Jerusalem is mentioned in the Quran as the abode of the Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock.

It was the first Qibla in Islam to which the Muslim faithful turned then faces in prayer even before Mecca.

It was also the spot from which the Prophet Muhammad made his natural journey to Heaven, to pray with all the other Prophets of God, in one of the greatest ecumenical episodes in the history of mankind.

And of course it is the most revered to the Christian Palestinians who share with their Muslim brethren the eternal love for Jerusalem and Palestine and a determination to return to their usurped homes and homeland.

8- Arab and Jewish Refugees :In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

TRUTH:
It is acknowledged by the whole world that the Palestinian refugees were expelled from their ancestral homeland, by Israeli acts of genocide, of which the Deer Yassin massacre was but one.

It is a blatant lie to suggest that they left at the urging of Arab governments.

On the other hand, the Jewish agency conspired to terrorize the Jewish communities to leave their homelands in Arab countries by all means possible, fair and foul. Today, the Arab countries are telling their former Jewish citizens that they are welcomed back anytime.

The Israeli authorities are denying the repatriation of a single Palestinian refugee.

9- The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

TRUTH:
The Jewish refugees themselves would not want to integrate in any country other than their own for wanting to return to their Terra Santa?

10- The Arab-Israeli Conflict: The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won

TRUTH:
Concerning the Arab Israeli conflict. The Arabs are 22 countries and one nation numbering (300) million people.

The Jews are not a nation but a religion. Would an American Jew, a British Jew, a French Jew and other Jews accept to be called a Jewish nation? Are they willing to renounce their presents nationalities? Will they accept to live in a Jewish theocracy? Let us ask them!

The Arab nations did not initiate any of the five wars. They were their victims. In 1947-48 the Jewish terrorist organizations drove the Palestinian people by terror from their homeland.

Arab countries belatedly sent small contingents to save their remnants in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

In 1956, Israel invaded Egypt in collusion with the then British and French governments.

On June 5, 1967 Israel launched an air attack on Egypt followed by an invasion in the course of which it occupied the West Bank including Jerusalem, the Golan Heights and Sinai.

1973 was the only war that Egypt and Syria launched, in order to liberate their occupied territories in Sinai and the Golan Heights.

The Palestinian people have been struggling for decades to liberate their occupied Palestinian territories including occupied Jerusalem.

In 1978 and 1982 Israeli forces invaded Lebanon and remained in occupation of its south for 22 years when they were forced to withdraw by the brave resistance of the Lebanese people.

11- The PLO’s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.

TRUTH:
The Palestinian authority has agreed to a two-state solution: a Palestinian state and an Israeli state, with Jerusalem as the capital of both.

The present onslaught on the Palestinian people and authority is Sharon’s genocidal response to this solution. Palestine is entitled to sovereign independence not tutelage under Israel; and the whole of the territories occupied in 1967 and not part of, or most of. Occupation must never be
rewarded.

12- Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

TRUTH:
UN records are replete with security council resolutions (243) up to this date, against Israel because of its aggressions, occupations and violations of human rights.

Similarly the close to 700 general assembly resolutions. Israel never complied with a single one of them. Is it above the law?

13- The U.N. was silent, while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Synagogues in Jerusalem.

TRUTH:
Jordan never destroyed “58” synagogues in Jerusalem because they never existed except for two: the big synagogue and the small one, which were damaged in the fighting when Israel attacked Arab Jerusalem on May 15, 1948, as were many churches and mosques including Al-Aqsa Mosque.

14- The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

TRUTH:
It is totally untrue to claim, as the Israeli's do, that the Jordanian's systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives. Some citizens in the area may have taken some stones without the knowledge or consent of government. But the cemetery remained up to this day in tact.

This is so while Israeli authorities between 1948 and today have completely destroyed and not simply desecrated hundreds of ancient Muslim and Christian cemeteries throughout Palestine.

Incidentally the Mount of Olives cemetery is an Islamic Waqf land leased to the Israelis 100 years ago. The lease has lapsed.

15- The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

TRUTH:
The Jordanians prevented the Jews from visiting the wailing wall only because the Israelis in spite of the armistice agreement of 1949 refused to repatriate the citizens of Jerusalem to their homes in west Jerusalem, a mere few hundred yards.

The Israelis also refused to reopen the Jerusalem Bethlehem road, refused to restore water and electricity to the remaining Arab quarters and adamantly resisted the will of the international community.

They continue to resist it today as the occupation of Palestinian cities shows
and the massacre of thousands of Palestinians, while the world watches in horror.

Via:
http://freethoughtmanifesto.blogspot...nda-truth.html
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The_Prince
07-04-2007, 11:13 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85
They are the good guys

indeed they are.
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Zman
07-06-2007, 10:01 PM
:sl:/Peace To All

Maority Of Israeli Settlements Go Beyond Official Boundaries

Courtesy Of: The International Herald Tribune
By Steven Erlanger
Published: July 6, 2007

JERUSALEM: Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank use only 12 percent of the land allocated to them, but one-third of the territory they do use lies outside their official jurisdictions, according to a report released Friday by Peace Now, an Israeli group that advocates Palestinian self-determination.

According to the report, based on official data released by the Israeli government following a court order, 90 percent of the settlements sprawl beyond their official boundaries despite the large amount of unused land already allocated to them.

More than 10 percent of the land included within the official jurisdiction of the settlements is owned privately by Palestinians, as is 70 percent of the land the settlements control outside their official boundaries, said the report, whose findings were published Friday in the newspaper Haaretz.

According to Dror Etkes, who prepared the report with Hagit Ofran of Peace Now, the official data show how the government has taken West Bank land beyond the needs of the settlements in order to prevent Palestinian construction there, while seeking to add a zone of separation between the settlers and the Palestinians.

But in areas that have been closed to Palestinians, settlers have seized adjacent Palestinian lands, often privately owned, without being stopped by the army, the legal sovereign in the occupied territories.

There is a pattern of a failure to enforce the law on the settlers," Etkes asserted.

"But the lack of enforcement isn't an accident. It became another tool to achieve the military goals of the occupation, which is to allocate the land and hold it."
The data, updated to the end of 2006, were provided by the Israeli government's Civil Administration, which governs civilian activities in the territories, in response to a lawsuit brought by Peace Now and the Movement for Freedom of Information in Israel.

Until the court case, official maps of the West Bank settlements were not made public.

Shlomo Dror, spokesman for the Israeli military administration in the West Bank, said that many of the failings noted in the report had taken place years ago and had been corrected.

"Today we have better enforcement, the ownership of land is checked and we pursue legal action when necessary," he said.

Etkes responded: "I'm not sure their enforcement is getting better, but their sense of humor is."
Under the Oslo accords of 1993, Israel pledged not to take unilateral steps to alter the situation in the occupied territories before a peace settlement, and it later promised the Bush administration that settlements would not be expanded beyond already "built-up" areas.

But of the 164 settlements, outposts and industrial zones in the West Bank, 92 of them expanded or redefined their area of jurisdiction after the Oslo accords, and in the decade that followed, the number of West Bank settlers doubled.

There are about 122 official Israeli settlements in the West Bank. The Palestinians claim all of the West Bank as part of a future state.

Much of the international community regards all Israeli settlement in the West Bank, which was captured by Israel in the 1967 war, as illegal under international law; the United States calls the settlements "an obstacle to peace" and wants settlement activity frozen.

Source:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/...ca/mideast.php
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Zman
07-07-2007, 03:06 PM
:sl:/Peace To All

"Blow Up The Mosques"

Archives Show Israel Levelled Mosques: Report


Agence France-Presse
Fri Jul 6, 8:50 AM ET
Courtesy Of: Yahoo

JERUSALEM (AFP) - Israel destroyed more than 100 mosques in Palestinian villages incorporated into the state, including the site where the head of Imam Hussein was allegedly buried, a daily wrote on Friday.
According to archives quoted by the Haaretz newspaper, Israel's legendary general Moshe Dayan -- himself an avid amateur archaeologist -- gave the order to blow up the mosque while he was a young lieutenant colonel.
Haaretz said the Mashhad Nabi Hussein in Majdal, now Ashkelon, dated back to the 11th century and was where tradition had it that the head of Imam Hussein, killed in 680 by armies of the Sunni caliph Yazid in Karbala, was interred.

Around 9,000 Arabs who lived in Majdal fled during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war and 3,000 who remained in a ghetto were subsequently forced out by Israel.

The Mashhad Nabi Hussein mosque was blown up deliberately as part of a broader operation that included at least two additional mosques, one in Yavneh and the other in the nearby Mediterranean city of Ashdod, Haaretz said.

Of the 160 mosques in Palestinian villages incorporated into Israel under the armistice agreements, fewer than 40 are still standing, the newspaper quoted a Tel Aviv University study as showing.
Various holy sites were levelled despite protests from the then head of the Israeli antiquities department, Shmuel Yeivin, who believed that ancient sites and holy places needed to be preserved whoever they were sacred to.

Source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070706...yreligionislam
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wilberhum
07-08-2007, 02:11 AM
The Israel You Don't See On The News
Isn't it odd that news releases are posted here? :skeleton:
So I guess it should be "The Israel You Do See On The News". :D
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sudais1
07-10-2007, 09:57 PM
^^^looooool

i guess he means the isreal major news channels dont show but i like that lool
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snakelegs
07-10-2007, 10:05 PM
Haaretz said the Mashhad Nabi Hussein in Majdal, now Ashkelon, dated back to the 11th century and was where tradition had it that the head of Imam Hussein, killed in 680 by armies of the Sunni caliph Yazid in Karbala, was interred.
is this true?
by the way, i think the israeli press is much more free than the u.s. press in some ways. haaretz is an excellent paper - almost all the negative things i've read in the press about israel, were in haaretz.
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Keltoi
07-10-2007, 10:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs
is this true?
by the way, i think the israeli press is much more free than the u.s. press in some ways. haaretz is an excellent paper - almost all the negative things i've read in the press about israel, were in haaretz.
How could the U.S. media be more "free"? You might point to corporate influence in the stories covered and the way in which they are covered, but the U.S. media is quite free to print anything they want, as long as it is legal to disclose the information.
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snakelegs
07-10-2007, 10:51 PM
i disagree. there is such a thing as internal censorship - journalists pretty much know what their editors and advertisers want.
they are not even allowed to show coffins, for crying out loud! how can you think we have a free press? officially, yes. in reality, no.
but now we have access to a huge variety of news sources and even in the u.s. a station like the pacifica network (listener-sponsored, leftist) radio has been allowed to exist for over half a century now. it is perfectly safe because almost no one listens to it anyway.
so there is really no need to limit your news sources, as long as you have internet. we do not block the internet sources, thank god. and that in itself is freedom of the press. but u.s. mainstream media is something else.
we will just disagree on this one.
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islamirama
07-10-2007, 11:20 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
How could the U.S. media be more "free"? You might point to corporate influence in the stories covered and the way in which they are covered, but the U.S. media is quite free to print anything they want, as long as it is legal to disclose the information.
Free you say? ... are you sure?


Reporters Blow Whistle on FOX News -
http://www.youtube.com/v/fzu9M6dUCac


MORE FOX News Whistleblowers Fess Up -
http://www.youtube.com/v/VuYDRrmIH2w
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Keltoi
07-10-2007, 11:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by islamirama
Free you say? ... are you sure?


Reporters Blow Whistle on FOX News -
http://www.youtube.com/v/fzu9M6dUCac


MORE FOX News Whistleblowers Fess Up -
http://www.youtube.com/v/VuYDRrmIH2w
:D ...oh yes, the evil FOX news. Of course what these "whistleblowers" contend is that FOX news has a conservative slant....wow, what an epiphany. Just as MSNBC and CNN have a liberal slant. The press is quite free, free to slant their news if they wish, yes, but also free to start any kind of news media they desire, as long as the public wants to watch it. If you don't like FOX, don't watch it, I'm sure MSNBC and CNN are more your speed. Just nod your head to everything that comes out of Keith Olberman's mouth. :happy:

Another thing, you need to understand the difference between stories that comes across the news desk and how those stories are characterized by political pundits and talk show hosts.
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arabookworm
07-13-2007, 09:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
There are thousands of examples, you just ignore them because they don't support your hate.
I am anti israel, but that does not mean that I hate israelis, or that I think it is right to kill israeli citizens. your claim that just because someone is against israel means that they hate all israelis is preposterous.

:thumbs_do
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wilberhum
07-13-2007, 09:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by arabookworm
I am anti israel, but that does not mean that I hate israelis, or that I think it is right to kill israeli citizens. your claim that just because someone is against israel means that they hate all israelis is preposterous.

:thumbs_do
When I address islamirama, I'm addressing islamirama.

When you see arabookworm, I will be adressing you. Kind of like this one. :muddlehea

And when you quote my post, I don't assume you are addressing snakelegs.

It isn't a tough concept, I hope you can grasp it. :offended:

After you see hundreds of "Hate Israel" posts, you won't find it so preposterous.
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islamirama
07-17-2007, 02:10 PM
Israel's Friends on the Hill

For readers who may have missed the recent events on Capital Hill, there was this interesting tidbit which appeared The Jerusalem Post:

"The US House of Representatives unanimously passed a resolution Wednesday afternoon condemning a British call to boycott Israeli universities. The measure, approved 414 to 0, urged the European Union and governments around the world to reject the call by the leadership of the University and College Union of the United Kingdom to cease cooperation with Israeli institutions".


Always nice to see diversity of opinion on these key humanitarian issues, isn’t it? Congress has been equally supportive of the punitive measures which have prevented food and medicine from entering the Gaza Strip in clear violation of the Geneva Conventions.

Congress has no problem approving "collective punishment" or any other internationally-condemned behavior as long as it serves the greater interests of Israel. Ironically, you would never see such unanimity on any issue among the members of the Israeli Knesset.

http://uruknet.info/?p=m34530&s1=h1
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-17-2007, 02:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Aaron85
They are the good guys

psshh obviously

unlike this evil fat head

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InToTheRain
07-17-2007, 02:20 PM
"How can you thank a man for giving you what's already yours? How then can you thank him for giving you only part of what is yours?"

"The Zionist argument to justify Israel's present occupation of Arab Palestine has no intelligent or legal basis in history."

"If you don't stand up for something, you'll fall for anything"

Malcolm X

There are good Jews, but there is no such thing thing as a good Zionist and Israel is run by Zionists, they are the evovled version of the KKK...or should I say degraded or more worse version :hmm:
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wilberhum
07-17-2007, 03:59 PM
they are the evovled version of the KKK.
Statements like this speak volumes about yourself.
They have as much in common as a fish and a bicycle.
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InToTheRain
07-17-2007, 09:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
Statements like this speak volumes about yourself.
They have as much in common as a fish and a bicycle.
Why don't you stop getting spoon fed by CNN and start doing your research.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/an...azisupport.cfm

Bah, when are mods gonna ban these trolls...
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wilberhum
07-17-2007, 09:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by WnbSlveOfAllah
Why don't you stop getting spoon fed by CNN and start doing your research.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/an...azisupport.cfm

Bah, when are mods gonna ban these trolls...
Gee I went through the entire article. The KKK was never mentioned. :hiding:
Mybe you should use some research. ;D

Troll? Na, just a Don Rickles admirer. :D
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Keltoi
07-17-2007, 09:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by WnbSlveOfAllah
Why don't you stop getting spoon fed by CNN and start doing your research.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/an...azisupport.cfm

Bah, when are mods gonna ban these trolls...
There were Jews outside Germany in negotiations with the Nazis in the context of the Jews being persecuted inside Germany. There is no credibility in the claim that Jews were working with the Nazis in order to further a Zionist agenda. The very notion is actually absurd if you take the time to seriously consider it. What this article you posted points to is contact between a Zionist leader and Germany, then uses that as evidence of a Zionist/Nazi conspiracy, when the truth is that these Jews were trying to help the German Jews in any way possible. Zionist organizations worked with Great Britain against Germany. Look up Special Operations Executive.
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wilberhum
07-17-2007, 09:45 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
There were Jews outside Germany in negotiations with the Nazis in the context of the Jews being persecuted inside Germany. There is no credibility in the claim that Jews were working with the Nazis in order to further a Zionist agenda. The very notion is actually absurd if you take the time to seriously consider it. What this article you posted points to is contact between a Zionist leader and Germany, then uses that as evidence of a Zionist/Nazi conspiracy, when the truth is that these Jews were trying to help the German Jews in any way possible. Zionist organizations worked with Great Britain against Germany. Look up Special Operations Executive.
But also the Nazi did Support Zionism. Not as a method of helping the Jews. It was just another way to get rid of them. It mostly stopped when the Germans got there "Killing Machines" going.
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Keltoi
07-17-2007, 09:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
But also the Nazi did Support Zionism. Not as a method of helping the Jews. It was just another way to get rid of them. It mostly stopped when the Germans got there "Killing Machines" going.
I agree that Germany supported Zionism in the context of getting Jews out of Germany, but the assertion that the Nazi Party and Zionist organizations worked together to kill Jews is completely false.
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wilberhum
07-17-2007, 09:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
I agree that Germany supported Zionism in the context of getting Jews out of Germany, but the assertion that the Nazi Party and Zionist organizations worked together to kill Jews is completely false.
Of course. I never ment to support that kind of BS.
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InToTheRain
07-17-2007, 09:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
There were Jews outside Germany in negotiations with the Nazis in the context of the Jews being persecuted inside Germany. There is no credibility in the claim that Jews were working with the Nazis in order to further a Zionist agenda. The very notion is actually absurd if you take the time to seriously consider it. What this article you posted points to is contact between a Zionist leader and Germany, then uses that as evidence of a Zionist/Nazi conspiracy, when the truth is that these Jews were trying to help the German Jews in any way possible. Zionist organizations worked with Great Britain against Germany. Look up Special Operations Executive.
Believe me it is not just this article which has convinced me of the Similiarities between Nazis and ZIonists.

This was said by British Chief Rabbi:

"In truth, what leads Jews to shed blood is not their religion, but radical Zionism, a racist ideology founded on social-Darwinism. Since the day they came to Palestine, Zionists have made every effort to dispossess Palestinian Muslims and establish their ideal states on their land. In the pursuit of this goal, Zionists have thought themselves justified to wreak misery on all including women and children. In the process, they have misinterpreted certain verses of the Old Testament to suit their purposes, or as the chief rabbi stated, corrupted the religion of Judaism."


http://www.harunyahya.com/mediawatch...i_violence.php
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wilberhum
07-17-2007, 10:10 PM
Adnan Oktar went do school for interior design and practices pseudo science.:skeleton:
If that is where you get your misinformation, I'm beginning to understand. :D
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InToTheRain
07-17-2007, 10:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
I agree that Germany supported Zionism in the context of getting Jews out of Germany, but the assertion that the Nazi Party and Zionist organizations worked together to kill Jews is completely false.
I Concur, Where in my posts did I say the Zionists and KKK work together? I said the Zionists are a more worse version of KKK, in other words their hatred is greater. Apologies for not explaining it more clearly.
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