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Helena
07-13-2007, 08:06 PM
:sl:

I wanna get one thing clear....

this belief/acceptance that is carried or is embedded in womens mind that ' under their husbands feet lies heaven'......

is this correct? found in the Qur'an or the Hadiths?

or is this thought founded from hindu culture..which most ppl discover from....

....all i know from islamic perspective that under our mothers feet lies heaven....and is available from the hadiths and the Quran...

:w:
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Helena
07-13-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Alpha Dude
:sl: I could be wrong, but I really think it's a Hinduism-influenced cultural thing.
This is wot i am assuming too....Allahu Allaam....
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-13-2007, 08:48 PM
im not sure about jannah but the husbands have indeed been given an extremely strong position in islam for the sisters.


the hadith in which the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam says "if anyone was allowed to prostrate to another it would be a wife to a husband" is more then enough to make this point.


but there are reasons for everything in islam, and the treatment of the husbands towards the wife and distribution of wealth etc shows that both have advantages in accordance with strengths.


i could probably explain this better in real life but i tried :-\
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Helena
07-13-2007, 09:59 PM
hmmmm....^o) ....

ur third point is slightly unclear mazed.......i cant picture it......:coolious: ....

In which hadith was that quoted from?....

me and my friends were having a small debate over it...as some perhaps more women either here or back home accept that under their husbands feet lie heaven.

As i recall my friend sed that...her husband uses this view constantly towards her to perform some actually most actions for him..
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IbnAbdulHakim
07-13-2007, 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by LABBAYK
her husband uses this view constantly towards her to perform some actually most actions for him..
sounds like a freshy


neway sis, yeah we say that pleasing your husband can earn you jannah inshaAllah.



but "under the feat" dont kno bout that, but sure please em inshaAllah as long as you dont disobey Allah in doing so


assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
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Helena
07-13-2007, 11:31 PM
Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
sounds like a freshy


neway sis, yeah we say that pleasing your husband can earn you jannah inshaAllah.



but "under the feat" dont kno bout that, but sure please em inshaAllah as long as you dont disobey Allah in doing so


assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
erm u have guessed it rite.....he is a deshi person.....

but doing every action can earn jannah.....why this particular action that are most ppl are drawn too....
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Muslim Knight
07-13-2007, 11:35 PM
I've heard that "Paradise lies beneath the feet of one's own mother" but have doubts about it being applied to husbands as well. However, suffice to say that being obedience to the husband in anything good and nothing in shirk, can grant the wife easy entrance to Jannah. Wallahu 'alam bissawab.
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Abdul Fattah
07-13-2007, 11:45 PM
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all). (An-Nisa 4:34)

Tafsir ibn kathir says about this verse:

Do Not Wish for the Things Which Allah has Made Some Others to Excel In

Imam Ahmad recorded that Umm Salamah said, "O Messenger of Allah! Men go to battle, but we do not go to battle, and we earn one-half of the inheritance (that men get).'' Allah sent down,

[وَلاَ تَتَمَنَّوْاْ مَا فَضَّلَ اللَّهُ بِهِ بَعْضَكُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ]

(And wish not for the things in which Allah has made some of you to excel others). At-Tirmidhi also recorded this Hadith. Allah's statement,

[لِّلرِّجَالِ نَصِيبٌ مِّمَّا اكْتَسَبُواْ وَلِلنِّسَآءِ نَصِيبٌ مِّمَّا اكْتَسَبْنَ]

(For men there is reward for what they have earned, (and likewise) for women there is reward for what they have earned,) indicates, according to Ibn Jarir, that each person will earn his wages for his works, a reward if his deeds are good, and punishment if his deeds are evil. It was also reported that this Ayah is talking about inheritance, indicating the fact that each person will get his due share of the inheritance, as Al-Walibi reported from Ibn `Abbas. Allah then directed the servants to what benefits them,

[وَاسْأَلُواْ اللَّهَ مِن فَضْلِهِ]

(and ask Allah of His Bounty.)Therefore, the Ayah states, "Do not wish for what other people were endowed with over you, for this is a decision that will come to pass, and wishing does not change its decree. However, ask Me of My favor and I will grant it to you, for I Am Most Generous and Most Giving.'' Allah then said,

[إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيماً]

(Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knower of everything.) meaning, Allah knows who deserves this life, and so He gives him riches, and whoever deserves poverty, He makes him poor. He also knows who deserves the Hereafter, and He directs him to perform the deeds that will help him to be sucessful in it, and whoever deserves failure, He prevents him from achieving righteousness and what leads to it. Hence, Allah said, m

[إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيماً]

(Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knower of everything).

[وَلِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مَوَالِىَ مِمَّا تَرَكَ الْوَلِدَنِ وَالاٌّقْرَبُونَ وَالَّذِينَ عَقَدَتْ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ فَـَاتُوهُمْ نَصِيبَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ شَهِيداً ]

(33. And to everyone, We have appointed Mawali of that left by parents and relatives. To those also with whom you have made a pledge (brotherhood), give them their due portion (by wills). Truly, Allah is Ever a Witness over all things.) Ibn `Abbas, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Abu Salih, Qatadah, Zayd bin Aslam, As-Suddi, Ad-Dahhak, Muqatil bin Hayyan, and others said that Allah's statement,

[وَلِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مَوَالِىَ]

(And to everyone, We have appointed Mawali) means, "Heirs.'' Ibn `Abbas was also reported to have said that Mawali refers to relatives. Ibn Jarir commented, "The Arabs call the cousin a Mawla.'' Ibn Jarir continued, "Allah's statement,

[مِّمَّا تَرَكَ الْوَلِدَنِ وَالاٌّقْرَبُونَ]

(of that (property) left by parents and relatives.) means, from what he inherited from his parents and family members. Therefore, the meaning of the Ayah becomes: `To all of you, O people, We appointed relatives (such as children) who will later inherit what you inherited from your own parents and relatives.'' Allah's statement,

[وَالَّذِينَ عَقَدَتْ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ فَـَاتُوهُمْ نَصِيبَهُمْ]

(To those also with whom you have made a pledge (brotherhood), give them their due portion.) means, "Those with whom you have a pledge of brotherhood, give them their share of inheritance, thus fulfilling the ratified pledges that you gave them. Allah has witnessed all of you when you gave these pledges and promises.'' This practice was followed in the beginning of Islam, but was later on abrogated when Muslims were commanded to fulfill the pledges (brotherhood) they had already given, but to refrain from making any new pledges after that. Al-Bukhari recorded that Ibn `Abbas said,

[وَلِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مَوَالِىَ]

(And to everyone, We have appointed Mawali) "meaning, heirs;

[وَالَّذِينَ عَقَدَتْ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ]

(To those also with whom you have made a pledge (brotherhood)) When the emigrants came to Al-Madinah, the emigrant would inherit from the Ansari, while the latter's relatives would not inherit from him because of the bond of brotherhood which the Prophet established between them (the emigrants and the Ansar). When the verse,

[وَلِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مَوَالِىَ]

(And to everyone We have appointed Mawali) was revealed, it cancelled (the pledge of brotherhood regarding inheritance).'' Then he said, "The verse,

[وَالَّذِينَ عَقَدَتْ أَيْمَـنُكُمْ فَـَاتُوهُمْ نَصِيبَهُمْ]

(To those also with whom you have made a pledge (brotherhood), give them their due portion.) remained valid for cases of co-operation and mutual advice, while the matter of inheritance was excluded and it became permissible to assign something in one's will to the person who had the right of inheriting before.''

[الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَآءِ بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللَّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ وَبِمَآ أَنفَقُواْ مِنْ أَمْوَلِهِمْ فَالصَّـلِحَـتُ قَـنِتَـتٌ حَـفِظَـتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ بِمَا حَفِظَ اللَّهُ وَاللَّـتِى تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِى الْمَضَاجِعِ وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلاَ تَبْغُواْ عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلاً إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيّاً كَبِيراً ]

(34. Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, and beat them, but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them. Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.) Allah said,

[الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَآءِ]

(Men are the protectors and maintainers of women,) meaning, the man is responsible for the woman, and he is her maintainer, caretaker and leader who disciplines her if she deviates.

[بِمَا فَضَّلَ اللَّهُ بَعْضَهُمْ عَلَى بَعْضٍ]

(because Allah has made one of them to excel the other,) meaning, because men excel over women and are better than them for certain tasks. This is why prophethood was exclusive of men, as well as other important positions of leadership. The Prophet said,

«لَنْ يُفْلِحَ قَوْمٌ وَلَّوْا أَمْرَهُمُ امْرَأَة»

(People who appoint a woman to be their leader, will never achieve success.) Al-Bukhari recorded this Hadith. Such is the case with appointing women as judges or on other positions of leadership.

[وَبِمَآ أَنفَقُواْ مِنْ أَمْوَلِهِمْ]

(and because they spend from their means.) meaning the dowry, expenditures and various expenses that Allah ordained in His Book and the Sunnah of His Messenger for men to spend on women. For these reasons it is suitable that he is appointed her maintainer, just as Allah said,

[وَلِلرِّجَالِ عَلَيْهِنَّ دَرَجَةٌ]

(But men have a degree (of responsibility) over them).
Qualities of the Righteous Wife

Allah said,

[فَالصَّـلِحَـتُ]

(Therefore, the righteous) women,

[قَـنِتَـتٍ]

(are Qanitat), obedient to their husbands, as Ibn `Abbas and others stated.

[حَـفِظَـتٌ لِّلْغَيْبِ]

(and guard in the husband's absence) As-Suddi and others said that it means she protects her honor and her husband's property when he is absent, and Allah's statement,

[بِمَا حَفِظَ اللَّهُ]

(what Allah orders them to guard.) means, the protected [husband] is the one whom Allah protects. Ibn Jarir recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

«خَيْرُ النِّسَاءِ امْرَأَةٌ إِذَا نَظَرْتَ إِلَيْهَا سَرَّتْكَ، وَإِذَا أَمَرْتَهَا أَطَاعَتْكَ، وَإِذَا غِبْتَ عَنْهَا حَفِظَتْكَ فِي نَفْسِهَا وَمَالِك»

(The best women is she who when you look at her, she pleases you, when you command her she obeys you, and when you are absent, she protects her honor and your property.) Then, the Messenger of Allah recited the Ayah,

[الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَآءِ]

(Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, ) until its end. Imam Ahmad recorded that `Abdur-Rahman bin 'Awf said that the Messenger of Allah said,

«إِذَا صَلَّتِ الْمَرْأَةُ خَمْسَهَا، وَصَامَتْ شَهْرَهَا، وَحَفِظَتْ فَرْجَهَا، وَأَطَاعَتْ زَوْجَهَا، قِيلَ لَهَا: ادْخُلِي الْجَنَّةَ مِنْ أَيِّ الْأَبْوَابِ شِئْت»

(If the woman prayed her five daily prayers, fasted her month, protected her chastity and obeyed her husband, she will be told, 'Enter Paradise from any of its doors you wish.')
Dealing with the Wife's Ill-Conduct

Allah said,

[وَاللَّـتِى تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ]

(As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct,) meaning, the woman from whom you see ill conduct with her husband, such as when she acts as if she is above her husband, disobeys him, ignores him, dislikes him, and so forth. When these signs appear in a woman, her husband should advise her and remind her of Allah's torment if she disobeys him. Indeed, Allah ordered the wife to obey her husband and prohibited her from disobeying him, because of the enormity of his rights and all that he does for her. The Messenger of Allah said,

«لَوْ كُنْتُ آمِرًا أَحَدًا أَنْ يَسْجُدَ لِأَحَدٍ، لَأَمَرْتُ الْمَرْأَةَ أَنْ تَسْجُدَ لِزَوْجِهَا، مِنْ عِظَمِ حَقِّهِ عَلَيْهَا»

(If I were to command anyone to prostrate before anyone, I would have commanded the wife to prostrate before her husband, because of the enormity of his right upon her.) Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

«إِذَا دَعَا الرَّجُلُ امْرَأَتَهُ إِلى فِرَاشِهِ فَأَبَتْ عَلَيْهِ، لَعَنَتْهَا الْمَلَائِكَةُ حَتَّى تُصْبِح»

(If the man asks his wife to come to his bed and she declines, the angels will keep cursing her until the morning.) Muslim recorded it with the wording,

«إِذَا بَاتَتِ الْمَرْأَةُ هَاجِرَةً فِرَاشَ زَوْجِهَا، لَعَنَتْهَا الْمَلَائِكَةُ حَتَّى تُصْبِح»

(If the wife goes to sleep while ignoring her husband's bed, the angels will keep cursing her until the morning.) This is why Allah said,

[وَاللَّـتِى تَخَافُونَ نُشُوزَهُنَّ فَعِظُوهُنَّ]

(As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them (first)). Allah's statement,

[وَاهْجُرُوهُنَّ فِى الْمَضَاجِعِ]

(abandon them in their beds,) `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said "The abandonment refers to not having intercourse with her, to lie on her bed with his back to her.'' Several others said similarly. As-Suddi, Ad-Dahhak, `Ikrimah, and Ibn `Abbas, in another narration, added, "Not to speak with her or talk to her.'' The Sunan and Musnad compilers recorded that Mu`awiyah bin Haydah Al-Qushayri said, "O Allah's Messenger! What is the right that the wife of one of us has on him'' The Prophet said,

«أَنْ تُطْعِمَهَا إِذَا طَعِمْتَ، وَتَكْسُوَهَا إِذَا اكْتَسَيْتَ، وَلَا تَضْرِبِ الْوَجْهَ، وَلَا تُقَبِّحْ، وَلَا تَهْجُرْ إِلَّا فِي الْبَيْت»

(To feed her when you eat, cloth her when you buy clothes for yourself, refrain from striking her face or cursing her, and to not abandon her, except in the house.) Allah's statement,

[وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ]

(beat them) means, if advice and ignoring her in the bed do not produce the desired results, you are allowed to discipline the wife, without severe beating. Muslim recorded that Jabir said that during the Farewell Hajj, the Prophet said;

«وَاتَّقُوا اللهَ فِي النِّسَاءِ، فَإِنَّهُنَّ عِنْدَكُمْ عَوَانٍ، وَلَكُمْ عَلَيْهِنَّ أَنْ لَا يُوطِئْنَ فُرُشَكُمْ أَحَدًا تَكْرَهُونَهُ،فَإِنْ فَعَلْنَ ذَلِكَ فَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ ضَرْبًا غَيْرَ مُبَرِحٍ، وَلَهُنَّ عَلَيْكُمْ رِزْقُهُنَّ وَكِسْوَتُهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوف»

(Fear Allah regarding women, for they are your assistants. You have the right on them that they do not allow any person whom you dislike to step on your mat. However, if they do that, you are allowed to discipline them lightly. They have a right on you that you provide them with their provision and clothes, in a reasonable manner.) Ibn `Abbas and several others said that the Ayah refers to a beating that is not violent. Al-Hasan Al-Basri said that it means, a beating that is not severe.
When the Wife Obeys Her Husband, Means of Annoyance Against Her are Prohibited

Allah said,

[فَإِنْ أَطَعْنَكُمْ فَلاَ تَبْغُواْ عَلَيْهِنَّ سَبِيلاً]

(but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance),) meaning, when the wife obeys her husband in all that Allah has allowed, then no means of annoyance from the husband are allowed against his wife. Therefore, in this case, the husband does not have the right to beat her or shun her bed. Allah's statement,

[إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيّاً كَبِيراً]

(Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.) reminds men that if they transgress against their wives without justification, then Allah, the Ever Most High, Most Great, is their Protector, and He will exert revenge on those who transgress against their wives and deal with them unjustly.
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doorster
07-14-2007, 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by LABBAYK
:sl:

I wanna get one thing clear....

this belief/acceptance that is carried or is embedded in womens mind that ' under their husbands feet lies heaven'......

is this correct? found in the Qur'an or the Hadiths?

or is this thought founded from hindu culture..which most ppl discover from....

....all i know from islamic perspective that under our mothers feet lies heaven....and is available from the hadiths and the Quran...

:w:
:sl:
"If it were permitted for one human being to prostrate to another I would have ordered the woman to prostrate to her husband." is often cited by oppressive moolahs to elevate man to the status of majazi khuda (god in earthly form)."

But it can easily be seen that there is nothing in the hadith to suggest such a pagan hindu incarnation even metaphorically.

"A faith as rigidly monotheistic as Islam which makes shirk or association of anyone with God the one unforgivable sin, cannot conceivably permit any human being to worship anyone but God"!

But the hadith of prostration is not about worship. Nor are the verses of Hazrat Yusuf's brothers' prostration to him, nor those of the prostration of the angels to Adam.

Wala hawla wala quwwata illa bilLah
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Malaikah
07-14-2007, 08:18 AM
:sl:

There is a hadith that something to the effect that if a women prays her five daily prays, fast ramadan and is obedient to her husband then she can enter paradise through any door she wishes.

Anyone got the hadith handy?
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doorster
07-14-2007, 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by Malaikah
:sl:

There is a hadith that something to the effect that if a women prays her five daily prays, fast ramadan and is obedient to her husband then she can enter paradise through any door she wishes.

Anyone got the hadith handy?
:w:

Ibn Hibban narrated that the Prophet said:

Translation :

"If a woman prayed the five prayers, fasted in Ramadan, protected her honor and obeyed her husband; then she will be told (on the Day of Judgment): enter Paradise from any of its (eight) doors".

Source: QSS Publications, al-Mu'minah Magazine
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amirah_87
07-15-2007, 01:00 PM
:sl:

I dont know whether this hadith's been mentioned or not, but here goes anyways;

The Prophet sallalaah 'alayhi wasallam said:

Ayyumaa imra'atin maatat wa zawjuhaa 'anhaa raadin, dakhalatil jannah.

Any women who dies and her husband is pleased with her, will enter paradise.. [Reported by Ibn Maajah & Al-Hakim]

In addition to this hadith;

"If a woman prayed the five prayers, fasted in Ramadan, protected her honor and obeyed her husband; then she will be told (on the Day of Judgment): enter Paradise from any of its (eight) doors".
It's reported by Ahmad and al-Tabarani; its narrators are thiqat. See Majma' al-Zawa'id, 4/306, Bab haqq al-zawj 'ala'l-mar'ah.
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