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Hajar
09-01-2005, 08:12 AM
A Dutch woman officially recognised as the world's oldest person has died at the age of 115.



Hendrikje van Andel-Schipper died in her sleep at the care home where she lived, the director of the centre said.

The former needlework teacher was born in 1890, and often said her long life was down to a daily dose of herring.

Mrs van Andel's husband died of cancer in 1959, but she continued to live on her own until she moved into the retirement home at the age of 105.

Commonly known as Hennie, she entered the Guinness Book of Records as the world's oldest person in 2004.

Her successor is another 115-year-old woman, Elizabeth Bolden of Tennessee, in the US. The oldest man is Puerto Rican Emiliano Mercado del Toro, 114.
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Hajar
09-01-2005, 09:26 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by zAk
:sl:

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,

looks like she wasn't a Muslim,
wat's the use of such a loooooooooong life,
if it was spent in a state of ignorance,
without knowing the creator n the reason for its creation :(
Nope She wasnt muslim...

Its weird huh, that she lived so long without knowing anything about her creator :( . Like didnt she ever wondered what will be after this life... :confused:
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Genius
09-01-2005, 09:57 AM
She was already an old lady when WW2 broke out, pretty amazing.
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root
09-01-2005, 10:03 AM
Zak: looks like she wasn't a Muslim

Does this mean from an Islamic point of view that this little old lady who has had a good fruitful life will now not be allowed into a perceived "Heaven" or will she be sent to the bowles of hell?

Just out of interest!

Root
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Arwa
09-01-2005, 11:10 AM
wa alaikum assalam

Masha'Allah 115 .. long life.. unfortunately, non Muslim!

hmm
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root
09-01-2005, 02:19 PM
Zak,

So you think she has gone straight to hell then?
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Khattab
09-01-2005, 03:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by root
Zak,

So you think she has gone straight to hell then?
We should not speak ill of dead as advised by the Prophet Muhammed (SWH), she has gone to meet her creator.

When someone dies they go into the state of barzakh in the grave ie waiting for the Day of Judgement.


The Barzakh (by Sheikh Bilal Philips)

In Islaam there is no support for the Hindu belief in reincarnation or the transmigration of souls wherein souls inhabit new bodies after bodily death.[1] Some of those who embrace this doctrine believe in a principle known as Karma,[2] that the deeds which a person accumulates in this life will determine the state in which he will be reborn. If he was bad, he is reborn in the womb of a woman from a lower level of society (caste) and he has to do good deeds so that he may be reborn on a higher level. If, on the other hand, he was good, he is reborn in the womb of a higher caste woman as a pious or holy man and continues to be reborn to successively higher caste women more pious and holy until he reaches perfection as a member of the Brahmin caste. When he becomes perfect, the cycle of rebirth ends with his soul dissolving and reuniting with the world soul, Brahma, in a process known as "Nirvana".

According to Islaam and all divinely revealed religions, when a person dies on earth he will not be reborn until the Day of Resurrection. After the destruction of the world, all of mankind will rise up from the dead to be judged by Allaah, the only God worthy of worship and the Greatest of Judges. From the time a man dies until he is resurrected, he remains in a suspended state known in Arabic as the "Barzakh". ""It should not seem strange to think that someone who died thousands of years ago, may be waiting for thousands of years before finally being brought back to life', because the Prophet (SAW) had said that everyone's death is the beginning of his resurrection. Time only exists for those living on earth. Once a man dies, he leaves the time zone and a thousand years becomes a blinking of an eye. Allaah illustrated that reality in a story which He related in Soorah al-Baqarah about a man who doubted Allaah's ability to resurrect a village; to bring it back to life after its death. So Allaah caused him to die for a hundred years and when he was resurrected, questioned him as to how long he had "slept". He replied, "A day or a part of a day."[3] Similarly people who awaken from long comas often think that little or no time has passed. Often one sleeps for hours yet on awakening he feels as though he had only just closed his eyes. So there is no point in trying to imagine waiting for centuries in the Barzakh, because time in that state has no relevance.
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Ansar Al-'Adl
09-01-2005, 07:34 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by Khattab
We should not speak ill of dead as advised by the Prophet Muhammed (SWH)
Indeed.

Once the Prophet was seated at some place in Madinah, along with his Companions. During this time a funeral procession passed by. On seeing this, the Prophet stood up. One of his Companion remarked that the funeral was that of a Jew. The Prophet replied, “Was he not a human being?” (Bukhari, Muslim)

Respect is what Islam teaches us.
:w:
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Halima
09-02-2005, 05:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Arwa
wa alaikum assalam

Masha'Allah 115 .. long life.. unfortunately, non Muslim!

hmm


;D ;D That is soo true subhanallah.
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