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SirDemonic
08-15-2007, 09:54 AM
I never been the perfect Muslim:hmm:

And I have a girlfriend who i love to bits but problem is
ill commit more sins by going out together etc... where 20yrs old don't have the slightest clue what to do

shall we get engaged? married? or just break up?
I need help
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S_87
08-17-2007, 12:46 PM
:sl:

the one who is sure of themself being a perfect muslim has something to worry about :)

you should certainly nt continue going out. if you got engaged it wouldnt mean you can continue doing what you are doing. either you get married or you break up.
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highway_trekker
08-17-2007, 01:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic
I never been the perfect Muslim:hmm:

And I have a girlfriend who i love to bits but problem is
ill commit more sins by going out together etc... where 20yrs old don't have the slightest clue what to do

shall we get engaged? married? or just break up?
I need help
If you 'love' her for the right reasons and she will be good for you in this life and the aakhirah, then marriage is better than not marrying because in the former your deeds are safe and in the latter you can fall into sin...
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rozeena
08-17-2007, 01:18 PM
i think u shud get engaged bro
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unknown_JJ
08-17-2007, 03:23 PM
get married!!
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-17-2007, 03:56 PM
get married !! :D
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Kittygyal
08-17-2007, 04:00 PM
:sl:

1) DO YOU REALLY LOVE THE DUDETTE??

IF YESH, THEN GET MARRIED.

2) JUST LEAVE HER IF YOU WANT TOO.

YOUR CHOICE, NO-ONE CAN MAKE IT FOR YOU BUT JUST REMEMBER 'YOU' WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS!!!
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-17-2007, 04:01 PM
owais qarni cudda had halal comfort but he left it for the pleasure of Allah, rasullulah cudda hav halal comfort but he left it for da pleasure of Allah.


its up 2u, but u shud kno right now u havin haram comfort :p *just lettin u knO :)*


oh n bro, the haram comfort always comes bak to bite u :offended:
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anonymous
08-17-2007, 04:48 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by SirDemonic
I never been the perfect Muslim:hmm:

And I have a girlfriend who i love to bits but problem is
ill commit more sins by going out together etc... where 20yrs old don't have the slightest clue what to do

shall we get engaged? married? or just break up?
I need help
:w:

Firstly...Lyk nun ov us are perfect...Buh we gotta strive to reach that perfection...Brap sick line :D
Secondly...I known 'nuff people at tha tender age of 17 chattin about gettin married (^o) Raah!) buh at the end of the day dey not even commited to eachother... Love isnt caring abouh sum1...DUN GET IT TWISTED GEME LYK!...Learn ta luv yo deen as much as u fink u luv her? So start practicing and that cause wen it cums down 2 marriage tha fing that gonna benefit u tha most is having a pious wifey/hubby...U guys long term btw?
I fink personally go on dem breaks that peeps du and get yo head sorted (no contact?)...Fix up & becum husband material (da islamic way doe!) & then think about proposing to herr?:-\:D

Byebyee now...:D:w:
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Neelam92
08-17-2007, 04:54 PM
get married :D
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Intisar
08-17-2007, 05:26 PM
:sl: If you feel you love her, then marry her.
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aamirsaab
08-17-2007, 06:27 PM
:sl:
My advice: your meeting up was haram in the first place - and as you quite rightly stated, continued dating will generate more sin.

Sure you love the women, which is great for any marriage. Problem is, it's not halal love.
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IbnAbdulHakim
08-17-2007, 09:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by anonymous
...I known 'nuff people at tha tender age of 17 chattin about gettin married (^o) Raah!)
i was chattin bout it wen i was 15, and? :-\

the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam advised us to get married young if we are able to, and many sholars agree that 17 is a very good age for girls mashaAllah


Byebyee now...:D:w:

byebye :D wa alaikum ussalaam wa rahmatullah
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anonymous
08-18-2007, 07:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
i was chattin bout it wen i was 15, and? :-\

the prophet sallallahi alaihi wasallaam advised us to get married young if we are able to, and many sholars agree that 17 is a very good age for girls mashaAllah
Ellllooooo :D:D...Nahnah you is not the understanding tha me :P...Like i meant peeps that been going out with sum1 for cuple of months and chat about how dey all deeply in love and ting & how dey wana get married... buh most of tha relationships dont even last brav & ish all fake...fake i tell ya faaaakeee :coolious: Like fo sum youth ish all just wurds...I wana end up gettin married reh reh reh...If you gets tha me? :D MashAllah @ ya if yo finking of getting married young...I ent condeming it, jus gotta b thought fru...:D


Peacccceeeeeee :thankyou::D:peace::coolious: Keeep it reaaalllll :w:
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3isha
08-18-2007, 08:13 PM
GET MARRIED

:D:D:D

Allah will bless both of you inshallah .Ameen
:)
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miqu
08-18-2007, 10:52 PM
Well if your girlfriends family like you, and your family also like your girlfriend...and the two of you love each other...

Then... why not ?

:D
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~Juwairiyah~
08-19-2007, 03:44 AM
:sl: wr wb,

I thought this might be of interest to you insha'Allah,

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Ruling on taking boyfriends or girlfriends

Question:
I am deeply in love with a Muslim man and want to marry him. I know that Allah forbids girlfriend-boyfriend relationships, and feel very sorry in my heart for our relationship. I feel that because we have been in this relationship which is abhorred by Allah, he will never marry me because he has lost respect for me. What does the Quaran say about this?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… Wed them with the permission of their own folk and give them their mahr (dowry) according to what is reasonable; they should be chaste, not adulterous, nor taking boyfriends…” [al-Nisaa’ 4:25]

In his commentary on this aayah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Muhsanaat [translated as “chaste”] means that they should be pure, not indulging in zinaa (unlawful sexual conduct), hence they are described as not being musaafihaat, which means promiscuous women who do not refuse anyone who wants to commit immoral acts with them. Regarding the phrase wa laa muttakhidhaati akhdaan (‘nor taking boyfriends’), Ibn ‘Abbaas said: ‘al-musaafihaat means those who are known to commit zinaa, meaning those who will not refuse anyone who wants to commit immoral acts with them.’ Ibn ‘Abbaas also said: ‘muttakhidhaati akhdaan means lovers.’ A similar interpretation was narrated from Abu Hurayrah, Mujaahid, al-Sha’bi, al-Dahhaak, ‘Ataa’ al-Khurasaani, Yahyaa ibn Abi Katheer, Muqaatil ibn Hayyaan and al-Saddi. They said: (it means) lovers. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: ‘It means a (male) friend.’ Al-Dahhaak also said: ‘wa laa muttakhidhaati akhdaan also means a woman who has just one boyfriend or lover with whom she is happy. Allaah has also forbidden this, meaning marrying her so long as she is in that situation…’”

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Made lawful to you this day are al-tayyibaat [all kinds of halaal (lawful) foods…]. The food of the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due mahr (bridal money given by the husband to the wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e., taking them in legal wedlock), not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girlfriends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allaah and in all the other Articles of Faith, the fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.” [al-Maa’idah 5:5]

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Muhsineen ghayr musaafiheen wa laa muttakhidhi akhdaan (‘desiring chastity (i.e., taking them in legal wedlock), not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girlfriends’). Just as Allaah imposed the condition of chastity on women, meaning that they refrain from zinaa, so it is also imposed on men. The man must also be pure and chaste. So they should be ghayr musaafiheen, meaning they should not be adulterers who do not refrain from sin and do not refuse any who come to them (for immoral purposes). Nor should they be muttakhidhi akhdaan, meaning those who have girlfriends or female lovers with whom they have an exclusive relationship, as quoted above from Soorat al-Nisaa’. (The one with many lovers or the one with just one lover) are both the same. For this reason Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal (may Allaah have mercy on him) said that it is not right to marry a promiscuous woman unless she has repented, or to arrange a marriage of such a woman to a chaste man, so long as she is still conducting herself in this manner. Similarly, he (Ahmad) says that it is not right for a promiscuous man to marry a chaste woman unless he repents and gives up his immoral conduct, because of this aayah… We will discuss this matter in further detail after quoting the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“Let no man guilty of fornication or adultery marry any but a woman similarly guilty, or an unbeliever: nor let any but such a man or an unbeliever marry such a woman: to the Believers such a thing is forbidden.” [al-Noor 24:3]

Among the stories that show that it is forbidden to have girlfriends or to marry them is the story of Marthad ibn Abi Marthad, who used to smuggle Muslim prisoners-of-war from Makkah to Madeenah. There was a prostitute in Makkah, called ‘Anaaq, who had been a friend of Marthad’s. Marthad had promised to take one of the prisoners from Makkah to Madeenah. He said: “I came to the shade of one of the gardens of Makkah on a moonlit night, then ‘Anaaq came and saw my shadow by the garden. When she reached me, she recognized me and said: ‘Marthad?’ I said, ‘Marthad.’ She said: ‘Welcome! Stay with us tonight.’ I said, ‘O ‘Anaaq, Allaah has forbidden zinaa (unlawful sexual relations)’ … I came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and asked him, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, should I marry ‘Anaaq?’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) remained silent and did not answer me at all, until the aayah ‘Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry any but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever; nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman; to the Believers such a thing is forbidden’ [al-Noor 24:3 – Yusuf ‘Ali’s translation] was revealed. Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘O Marthad, Let no man guilty of adultery or fornication marry any but a woman similarly guilty, or an Unbeliever; nor let any but such a man or an Unbeliever marry such a woman, so do not marry her.’”

(Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 3101; he said: it is a hasan ghareeb hadeeth).

‘Abd-Allaah ibn Maghfal reported that there was a woman who had been a prostitute during the days of ignorance (before Islam). A man passed by her, or she passed by him, and he touched her. She said: “Stop it! (Mah! A word connoting a rebuke or denunciation). Allaah has done away with shirk and had brought Islam.” So he left her alone and went away, still looking at her, until he walked into a wall, hitting his face. He came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and told him what had happened. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You are a man for whom Allaah wishes good. When Allaah, may He be blessed and exalted, wishes good for His slave, He hastens the punishment for his sin, so that it is dealt with before the Day of Resurrection.” (Reported by al-Haakim, 1/349, who said this hadeeth is saheeh according to the conditions of Muslim, and al-Dhahabi agreed with him. See Saheeh al-Jaami’, 308).

These aayaat and ahaadeeth clearly indicate that it is haraam (forbidden) for men to have any kind of friendship or relationship with non-mahram women (women to whom they are not closely-related and to whom they could get married). The evil consequences and misery caused by such relationships are obvious to anyone who observes real life. We ask Allaah to keep us far away from that which is forbidden, to protect us from all that may earn His wrath and to keep us safe from a painful punishment. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
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Try praying istikarah insha'Allah if you wish to marry her and insha'Allah repent from your mistakes/sins, salam
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tryinghard
08-20-2007, 03:57 AM
:sl: Don't worry, no one's a perfect Muslim. We're all trying our best :happy:

But, the only acceptable union between a man and a woman in Islam is marriage. Since you're only 20 and I'm not sure if you're in school or working, I think marriage might be a little early for you. I think getting engaged would be a good option. That way, you could continue your relationship with the intention of marriage. At least that's what I think. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.:w:
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